agreed we are the most underpaid profession but why still there was increasing number of ACCA student register every year ??? we also "pook sam pook meang" to study for the exam even though people did said ACCA = Always Come and Come Again...

so we might emerge as a LITTLE paid worker as compare to those IT fella or even salesperson who stand in the middle of the shopping complex begging the shoper to subcribe their credit card ( from what i heard their salary easily stand at rm5000++ which we know commision play big part)

i have a friend, STPM holder with the starting salary of rm4000++ just being water filter salesperson while i was still doing my acca part one. it is even reality bite that nowadays those "bak kut teh" or "char koay tew" seller earn more than the professional people like us... we only drive kancil ( parents bought it or we bought it but still have to pay monthly instalment) but they are driving "tai sai ngan" to do business.

but i believe one thing that we are in a safe position is when the economy downturn. i am very sure we are not in the top list of getting fired. pros and cons lor and is up to us how we weight the issue...

This post has been edited by rachelmay1402: Dec 11 2006, 08:46 PM

don't worry.u will pass. keep on . got 2 more days.

same here relax time is more than revising time. is like when i study i will find 1000 excuses to relax but when i relax i will keep saying "cannot must study" life is sooooo.....

me2.. i always study til mengantuk ..nap then study... haha

Climbing Corporate Ladder in Accounting field

Some Engineering students that receive a pay cheque of RM 2,300 claim that he is underpaid, what about accounting degree/ ACCA graduate??

For those that in Accouting field, how u sharpen ur skills or interpersonal skills to climb the corporate ladder ?? How much ur salary increment u get after probation or what position u r after 3 years of working??
An Accountant get as little as RM4,000 while a lot of IT Programmer or Engineer can get around RM3,500 after 1 or 2 years of working?? DO U THINK THAT IT IS BECAUSE ACCOUNTING IS NON INCOME GENERATING UNITS (Other than Bank or Audit Firm), therefore we are underpaid ??


I post this thread in <jobs & careers>, but no response at all.

I WAN U GUYS OPINION !!

I think this is YES and NO. No doubt we have very slow return at the beginning but the ending years are very promising. That's why Accountancy career is more to suffer at beginning and enjoy at the end. ACCA graduates also receive RM2300 from a big firm. I have some friends graduated IT and still jobless la.

I think maybe we're underpaid becos we still haven't obtained any membership at the beginning years.. so we still can be exploited. If ur a boss, wont u do the same?

Another point is to calculate the payback period. How much a person needs to pay for Engineering course and how much do we spend for ACCA?

Accounting whether is income generating depends on the roles and functions gua. If u think worth it, then mah generating lor.

For this question.. i only can quote u wat my lecturers told me lar.. dono true or not..

Fresh graduate - can get about RM1700 to RM2500
3 years later - can hit between RM3,500 to RM5,000
5 years later - can hit RM7,000 or more..

it all depends on the line they work oh. Cos, my lecturer said, "ACCA lecturer those famous one, can even hit RMxx,xxx... 5 digits salary lor."

So, i think it all depends gua... and it depends on how good the person is.

I think there's always a "unique" case where some ppl are high earner. But how many STPM holder can hit RM4K ++ and how many Hawkers are really that rich? And don't forget their sweat and hard work. Their job is really very physical.
And i think their job got no future lor.. how long can u sell water filters? And.. how much can u upgrade urself?

I think working few years u already can hit more than tat and our future can keep going up. So.. we be patience lor...

I belief we're underpaid and this a trend in the working world. Starting salary for in the field related to accounting is quite low compared to other profession such as engineering as you said. But, i think with the intense competition out there, our ACCA is essential to help us to climb the corporate world. This is what my friend observed when he was working in a bank. I think what determines your salary is your experience. To gain those invaluable experience, join audit firm or a research company. I bet in 1 year you can learn 2-3 times amount of knowledge compared to other field......But, dont worry, people like tony fernandes, ceo of TM(cant remember his name) also can climb to such a high position in their group of companies. I dont think we're that bad overall.....

I used to chew gums when fell sleepy.....my mouth will be non-stop when attending lectures and tutorials....hahaha

Please take note of the announcement and please use the edit button to avoid triple postings.

Thanks.

omg...just left one day not online already 2-3 pages...really very active here ya...

[quote=CUsSY,Dec 10 2006, 01:43 PM]
hi all, I'm currently a holder of diploma in food technology but I want to further my studies in ACCA. May I know which college is best and what's the duration and course fees? I heard Sunway College is good? Can I get ACCA course straight away without getting a diploma in accounting or any knowledge about accounts? Thanks

[/quote]

pls visit http://www.accaglobal.com and do some research ..if u got any questions,then u can come back to us later..


[quote=mandy88,Dec 10 2006, 01:50 PM]


dear all, any good lecturer for P3.3 who u can recommend?

[/quote]

recommend u go to Chow Kim Tai in FTMS...

[quote=oriqueen,Dec 10 2006, 03:51 PM]
3.1 ah? Hehe.. i heard frenz said this paper very scary one. fail and fail and fail and fail and still fail.. got frenz tell me.. some stud final core papers but fail 3.1.. so susah de meh?
dunno.. must wait i go 2.6 then i know..
hope 2.6 not tat tough la. pray pray pray

[/quote]

aiyo...where got so many fails in 3.1 la...the paper not very very difficult as long as u able to see the picture and apply the correct technique...


[quote=ahkun,Dec 10 2006, 04:16 PM]
[quote=ahkun,Dec 10 2006, 04:14 PM]
ke sian . ftms siva nair. mr low also will conducting 2.3 class.

ke sian. i feel sad. what his feeling ????????? must be sad.

[/quote]

i also feel is not so nice to siva...but luckily siva is very frenly and chin chai..

so i believe he won't mind..

[quote=b3llad0nna,Dec 10 2006, 06:36 PM]
Have attended chow kim tai's 2.4 dis sem.. He's pretty Gud.. Teaches very systematically, so u wont have any problem understanding the subject Nice lecturer..and very exam focused Lecturer! You guys should go to him

[/quote]

yaya...somemore he is quite leng chai also...

[quote=oriqueen,Dec 10 2006, 07:35 PM]
Yeah.. Parmindar Singh still @ Kasturi. Dono y FTMS say he joined FT.
KSA 2.6 Jackson (better dont take risk) also... 75% discount sounds very fishy. And his class all Sunday. very sien ler..

Support Mr Low Mr Low 2.6 FTMS. Hehe...

who's Spencer? Anyone can comment? Should I go for him ah?

[/quote]

haha...u is really a great supporter for low ha...

spencer o?don't know who is that??i think u got better choice right?

This post has been edited by coolly: Dec 11 2006, 08:45 PM

in my opinion,maybe at 1st we are paid lesser compare to many fields out there...but for having a professional qualification,i believe we can climb up to a higher level with the experience that we gained through out the years..

and if u say compare to sales person which can get higher than us..like doing direct sales etc,but i think it is quite unsecure lo...if u are asking how will i sharpen my skills,i would say i will try my best to learn as much as possible while i can and also try to keep myself up to date to the lastest development of the industry..always keep ourselves equip with the necessary skills and knowledge..in that case,i believe the people can see and ur talent will be shown giving enough time and also able to grab the opportunities...

Haha.. i think in a way la. but, he's good la. That's why i support him.
Very nice lecturer... i also support my other lecturers last time oh. Like Mr Parmindar also very "funny" with his "cameron highland joke".

But.. i think Mr Low is particularly nice.. very responsible lecturer i feel and good teaching skills also.. give him ..
haha

acca lecturers (especially ksa) diff pay la depending number of the students.. but not sure how they calculate their commission la..

oh, no wonder.. y dun wan continue ur part 3 in sunway..??

Oh.. NO..!!! 3.1 class crash with haneef..!!!
anyway, thanx for the info dude..

Erm, thats the figure for average.. if u ask us, we all acca students sure la ll back up accounting field.. My opinion, accounting job is kinda 'fixed', and if ur a normal accountant, u ll just follow exactly wat u should do n get ur salary.. but, if u wanna stand out, nowadays accountant need to be flexible one..

wat cameron highland joke..?? y i dunno wan..?? parminder wo..

Sunway teaches full-time for all subjects!!! don't forget that.. But of course, not all it's lectures are relevant.. Learnt that about 3.5 Marcus the hard way..

Are you sure engineers are that highly paid?? Coz as far as i can remember from friends and all, starting pay ranges from 1500 to 2500 or something like that..

All in all, it depends on what field you're actually working as.. I mean, some engineering degree holders would go into finance, audit, logistics, management trainee etc etc..

I don't think accountants are underpaid in the early years.. I do however think that fresh graduates pay are mostly about the same.. Unless of course you already have prior experience and is a top student of the university or u can offer something that would differentiate you from the rest

Demand for a particular profession also plays a big role.. Also, salary increment would be based on your work performance.. Not everyone gets the same amount of increment i think.. But i guess it depends on the firm maybe?? But i doubt it..

i agree!!
is all depends on the work performance

i took part 3
3.3 in the college for this sitting
but i performed damn bad in this sitting
so i guess i will definitely fail!!
then i m thinking to try out another 3.3 lecturer

better dont try P3.3 lecturer in sunway
u will regret
just like me

tomolo is 2.6 exam,
and is oso my final exam
dono why just feel calm right now...
maybe will oni start to get nervous tomolo

2.6 is all about application
purely memorizing theory won't help u much
the most important thing is make sure u have a good lecturer
to transfer the knowledge to u

[Geminist note: PLEASE USE THE EDIT BUTTON]

This post has been edited by Geminist: Dec 12 2006, 03:40 AM

U certainly doesn't visit [JOBS & CAREERS] , most of them claim tht fresh graduate Engineer is RM2,500-2,800 standard pay. Exceeding RM3500-4000 after one or two years.
The Threadstarter,an average result fresh graduate (2nd upper) get RM2,300 salary & complain HOW LOW THE SALARY IS !! If so, ur friends are certainly the bottom line compared to THEM. (Actually, my friend who is a engineer graduate who is receiving a pay cheque of RM2,800 just working in customer service answering complain & questions fr customers.) Some even get RM3000 as their starting pay with GOOD CGPA

everybody..im worrying.. the 2.5 paper i think i can get around 43 marks , is there any top up marks or reveised mark so that i still got chance to pass ?? this is the third time for 2.5..god bless me !!