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post Apr 28 2016, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(DBKL @ Apr 27 2016, 10:12 PM)
will go and check later, how much does it cost for changing?
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One side mounting minimum RM90. They say below RM90 is probably 3rd party mountings. Charges same as replacing the shock absorber, so if you want to change the mounting, consider changing the absorbers together as well unless they're still good.

QUOTE(DBKL @ Apr 28 2016, 09:43 AM)
guys,

would like to know where can i find castrol magnatec engine oil, i want to service my car this weekend.

and denso irridium IT20,

i am staying ampang cheras area.

thanks!
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Giant? hmm.gif Or Caltex if I'm not mistaken.
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post May 3 2016, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ May 3 2016, 07:32 PM)
I've change to light crank pulley.

Pro pick up nice.

Cons.

When you left your pedal , your speed drop fast.
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Do you have the U.R fender braces installed? Thinking of buying them.
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post May 3 2016, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroKunz @ May 3 2016, 09:09 PM)
Having a problem. I just change my Persona side speaker(driver). Since then there is water leaking into my car each time heavy rain. is there any way to fix it??
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Buy windscreen sealant and apply it generously around the speaker bracket before pushing and screwing it back onto the door, or bring it back to the accessory shop and ask them to help. Also don't forget to put some windscreen sealant between the bottom part of the speaker and the bracket so water don't find its way through there as well.

This is the fix I did for my car. I'm not sure what's the proper fix for this.
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post May 3 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ May 3 2016, 10:41 PM)
UR just increased their price this month  mega_shok.gif
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sad.gif. Why? Steel price going up? Or very good demand from people with a particular monster car? Fender brace for Persona is roughly how much now? Do we need to do welding?
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post May 5 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(J-keyLudacris @ May 4 2016, 04:17 PM)
I hv installed 3 point front strut bar. Rear anti roll bar and Lower arm bar.

coming soon will install front 4 point lower bar and rear 4 point lower bar.
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Your rear ARB is 16mm or 19mm or larger? Did you experience any metal twisting sound after installing a larger ARB? I have such noise after swtiching from the original ARB sad.gif

QUOTE(Djkarut @ May 5 2016, 03:03 PM)
any idea how i can fix this without replacing a new one ?
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Respray the handle? hmm.gif The spray shop will mask off the area around the handle.
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post May 10 2016, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ May 9 2016, 10:41 PM)
recently more n more stupid fxxking noises coming out from no where, which most noticeable part is driver door parts, not sure it's the door handle, the power window switch part, or lower parts which produce irritating sound (i even punch or hit hard on it, though the sound still there biggrin.gif ) 2nd noises still coming out from the middle aircond part, still annoying and irritating like always, let's put ngek ngek sound aside.  This is a car that rarely drive which is now 14k for 1 year and a half,  when my mileage around 13k, i send for servicing (changing engine oils and filter only), the foreman jack up my car and they found both petrol and engine oil leaking, I was like, wow damn, why am I so lucky? a car that didn't even drive to any where will have petrol and engine oil leaking bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  even though both leaking problems solved, but this car is definitely disappointed me to the max, no more having faith on it la, going to sell it out
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If you are willing to DIY, you can try opening up your door panel and putting a bit of windscreen sealant around the place where the door clips sit on. It may help because the door clips don't snap onto the panel. Rather they just slot into there and can actually move quite easily. You just need to remove 2 screws behind the door handle, two beside, and one that secures the driver's console, then pry the door panel off starting from the door handle part.

Air-cond vent problem unfortunately cannot be solved I think.. The only thing you can do is to minimise or eliminate it by adjusting any of the air-cond vents when the sound appears. Normally it makes it go away. This problem seems to have been around for a long time. I guess it's hard to get rid of low quality vendors. laugh.gif

Finally, did you see where exactly the oil is leaking from? For the Campro engine, this problem normally happens at the oil dipstick and the rocker cover. The rocker cover leak is because Plotong uses a bit of sealant only. I'm not sure what causes the oil dipstick leak, but I heard that it's related to not removing the dipstick during oil change.

QUOTE(DBKL @ May 10 2016, 09:17 AM)
crazy la,

guys, this few days evening always heavy rain.

my persona rear seat floor filled with water..

anyone have same issue?

i never had this problem for 4 year using persona, suddenly this thing happen...

thanks in advance
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I had this problem long time ago. Now already solved after numerous attempts with different methods. It's related to the door design, which is rather shit. It's either caused by the weather sheet that is no longer stuck onto the door properly, or water coming through the holes where the door clips go through. If you want to go with the easy way, you can just cut small holes on the bottom of the door seals to let water flow through, but that might affect the sound sealing ability of the door seals. The other thing you can do is buy windscreen sealant, and put a thick upside down U layer around the inner side of the door clip holes and paste a plastic layer such as a book wrapper over each hole. This covers the door clips and stops water from going through.

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Had my first ride in a Preve Executive from yr 2012. Didn't hear any rattling sound, and it's very comfortable. The CVT/engine noise is terrible though. Revving up to 2k+ RPM is already loud, and it was suffering from the air-cond sponge problem as well.

QUOTE(bingzz @ May 16 2016, 10:34 AM)
Guys I need some advise, recently my persona 5 years auto car suddenly die off (mati enjin)when press break or when I slow down..anyone face this problem?
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One guy experienced this before, but only once and it seems to have stopped since. He has been MIA for a long time though. Cavino

When was the last time you:
a) Replaced the spark plugs?
b) Cleaned the throttle body?

If both of the above have been checked/serviced, then get the car checked by a reputable workshop like Zordaq Motorsport at Shah Alam for the source of the problem.

QUOTE(Rikef @ May 16 2016, 12:24 PM)
Guys, Need some advise, I plan to change the absorber mounting, absorber and steering bush.

Mine 2010 Persona and the part need to change already. Should I change to the original part (mounting, absorber and bush) or any recommend other brand?

Where can I get it? I live at Shah Alam. Any Klang Valley no problem for me to go. Or any recomended shop for service? I use to go to Intan Matang at Seksyen 25 Shah Alam and use Shell Fully Sintetix Engine Oil.
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Zordaq Motorsport is located in Shah Alam. You can just go there and ask them to replace whatever parts that need replacing. They carry all sorts of genuine proton parts.

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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ May 16 2016, 08:16 PM)
one question regarding automatic transmission fluid, how long you guys change or service your ATF? and what ATF yu guys using? the original EON SP-III? anyone here used TOYOTA ATF TYPE-IV before??
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I had my gearbox flushed and the ATF changed to synthetic ATF from Petro Canada (DuraDrive MV) about a year or two ago. So far so good. Gear changes are usually smooth.

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post May 17 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ May 17 2016, 07:23 PM)
I planned to try Type-IV as type IV is higher grade than the usual SP-III, the Toyota TYPE-IV is applicable for almost all SP-III model, but I myself not reli sure bout tis, so was asking for opinion though
how long did u service your ATF actually??
so meaning that you service every 20k km?? or 40k km? 20k km too earlier? any noticeable change of using TYPE-IV??
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First flush was a mix of Dexron III and DuraDrive ( 6 + 6 litres). I replacecd the ATF again after 10k to 20k mileage with 5L of DuraDrive. Now if I'm not mistaken it's been slightly over 10k KM. This fluid supposedly lasts for the lifetime of the vehicle, or about 80,000KM to 100,000KM I believe. When I replaced the ATF, it was still nice and red. So far no issues. Gear change at 6.5 ~ 7k RPM is very smooth also.
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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ May 17 2016, 07:48 PM)
wow, 7000 rpm, how fast you speed bro brows.gif
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Just accelerating. smile.gif You can reach about 110KM/H at gear 2 6.5K< RPM.
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post May 18 2016, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ May 18 2016, 09:48 AM)
normally at highway, my average speed is 120km/h- 140km/hr, not dare to exceed 150km/hr, car shaky d
no worries, good things must share smile.gif
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I see. Your car needs to have its balancing re-done if your car is shaking at high speeds. If normal balancing doesn't help, you'll have to do high speed balancing.
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 18 2016, 01:50 PM)
My personal already 8 years old.. And one of the rear absorber is leaking.
I'm thinking to change all sets.
How much is the stock replacement suspension for Persona? Where to get? I prefer close to stock because it's for comfort and not performance..
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Best place to get original parts is Proton Parts Centre Shah Alam, but it may be a little too far plus if the queue is long, you might have to wait for a long time. You can try buying the absorbers from spare parts shop as well, but normally you'll get OE replacements like Kayaba and APM instead. I'm not sure how similar are the replacements to the original shocks, but I've tried Kayaba Excel-G gas shocks before and they caused the car to be slightly lower, plus it seems to have cause the car to have more body roll as well (from my experience with the Excel-Gs on my car, and from driving someone's Persona SV with original proton shocks).

If you want a place that offers both original parts and installation as well, you can try Zordaq Motorsport at Shah Alam.

Edit: Oh, and since your car is already 8 years old, perhaps you should get the absorber mountings replaced at the same time to save on labour cost. It costs from RM90 onwards for one piece, original Proton.

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 18 2016, 03:05 PM)
Do you know how much is the cost for each absorber/set?
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http://www.protonparts.com.my/maintenance.html

Don't remember, but you can call them with the number provided in the link above. Their website is always under maintenance, otherwise you can see the price listed there doh.gif.

The price for the Kayaba Excel-G:

Front: RM130 per piece
Rear: RM65 per piece

I imagine that any other OE replacements should roughly be around the same price. Original Proton shocks come at a higher price.

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I think persona elegance is using patco. The filter has four segments. The filter for Sanden only has two. Another way to check is to look at the back of the air Cond controller I think, or by looking at the compressor which is just below the engine. You can use your phone to snap a photo since there is plenty of space underneath.

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Jun 1 2016, 09:03 PM)
me got 2 PE but both different  laugh.gif
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Oo hmm.gif. How is their engagement smoothness? My sanden compressor engages quite noticeably, sometimes strong enough to feel a kick through the throttle pedal. The Persona SV I was in had very little to no engagement feeling when the compressor engages during drive. For lights dimming when compressor engages, it seems to be the same regardless of brand due to the way the radiator fan turns on. Compressor engagement doesn't actually seem to cause any dimming at all hmm.gif.
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QUOTE(J Camp @ Jun 3 2016, 11:14 AM)
so this means persona elegance owners should use patco cabin filters only?

what if use sanden filters even if the aircon compressor is patco?

will any harm be done?  hmm.gif

the seller below is selling 2 types of persona elegance filters (patco and sanden).
can check out his link, scroll down and you'll see 2 types of pe filter like you mention above (4 and 2 segments).
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346941
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I'm not sure about their interchangeability, but if the filter doesn't work effectively, you'll end up with a cooling coil that gets dirty quickly. To get access to the cooling coil in the Persona, you need to remove the entire dashboard.
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QUOTE(benson92 @ Jun 9 2016, 10:52 AM)
gonna service my persona soon, been going to zordaq and this time puasa duno saturday they open or not?
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Call? hmm.gif

QUOTE(caesarx @ Jun 9 2016, 11:01 AM)
my car now cannot start liao, i think battery dead, measure with multimeter 12.5v

Just 20 min ago i still driving my car, I after 20 min it cannot start liao.....

calling insurance, 5min still cannot connect to human operator, what the......
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Why don't you ask for a battery delivery service instead? I think got one in the automotive garage sales section. Just search battery.

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QUOTE(SoccerIsMyLife86 @ Jun 12 2016, 11:57 AM)
Bro, you mentioned that been using Miller CFS?
How good is good? FC and performance as good or even better than the 2 I've mentioned? How much is it and where to get it?
Need more details as I do not want to go through a engine overhaul...hehe...
Thanks. Need to change today as my mileage reaches 9000km on Motul Htech.
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My car's engine oil is currently Millers EE Longlife 5W-40. RM240 incl labour and oil filter. I'm satisfied with it smile.gif. My last day trip to Ipoh and Cameron Highlands and back to Damansara gave me a fuel reading of 6.4L/100KM. Average speed of 110KM/H to Ipoh, 30 to 50KM/H up Cameron on the single lane crazy winding road, and 80 ~ 100KM/H average down the wide road.
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QUOTE(mayalab @ Jun 12 2016, 03:29 PM)
Let's do a simple comparison of the few products mentioned here (similar products of grade XW-40). We list down two key parameters to determine the quality of engine oils scientifically, not through hearsay in layman terms.

TBN (Total Base Number, the higher the number the longer it lasts)
1. Mobil1 Advanced Full Synthetic 0W-40 - 12.6 mgKOH/g
2. Millers CFS 5W-40 NT - 10.11 mgKOH/g
3. Fosser Premium VS 5W-40 - 10.0 mgKOH/g
4. Millers EE LONGLIFE 5W-40 - 7.44 mgKOH/g

VI (Viscosity Index, The higher the value, usually it dictates the better the performance in the test)
1. Mobil1 Advanced Full Synthetic 0W-40 - 186
2. Millers CFS 5W-40 NT - 177
3. Fosser Premium VS 5W-40 - 171
4. Millers EE LONGLIFE 5W-40 - 170

Of course there are many other critical scientific parameters (such as Cold Cranking Viscosity, NOACK Volatility Test, etc.) to determine the quality of the oils, but they are not available from the official published data for comparison. I happened to see both Millers products have CCV of 6,600, which is actually a very poor result from a fully synthetic product.

On a side note, Millers EE LONGLIFE 5w40 offers a TBN figure of 7.44 only, which is indeed a worrying number. Personally i won't use it for OCI of 10,000km for traffic conditions in Malaysia. Perhaps it should be drained at 7,000km at best.

Let's go back to pricing:
1. Mobil1 Advanced Full Synthetic 0W-40 - RM152/4 quarts
2. Fosser Premium VS 5W-40 - RM200/4 litres (with free labour + oil filter)
3. Millers EE LONGLIFE 5W-40 - RM240/4 litres (with free labour + oil filter) (Price quoted from TDUEnthusiast)
4. Millers CFS 5W-40 NT - RM352/4 litres (Price quoted from Lowyat Garage Sales)

Just my 2 cents. Hope it helps...
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Yup.. I happened to notice that the EE LongLife's TBN seems to be quite low, and much lower than its semi synthetic brother (EE Semi Synthetic) which has 10. I usually change the oil by date though, and so far after owning this car for 4 years+ I've only racked up about 36k KM of mileage.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 13 2016, 04:55 PM)
I think our car definitely need camber screw? Been reject this to ALL tyre shop, EVERY tyre shop I went sure will ask camber screw. Some even adjusted the alignment lari so much that my reverse will get into b another side and almost bang the gate when the steering is straight... Return back they will say no camber mar, it's like that...
Meantime another few cars in house never got asked for camber screw... Makes me wonder is camber really necessary?
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Don't think so... I think you haven't found a good and honest shop. I believe that our car's alignment should be done easily considering that the toe for all four wheels can be adjusted without requiring any parts to be changed. When my car was fitted with camber bolts last time (also kena con), they just adjusted the reading to be 0 with the car in the air. But this was on the pretext that the tyres will wear out faster on the outer edge, which doesn't make sense since a more positive camber will make it worse I think, in addition to having bad/aggressive toe adjustments.

My current all round camber readings are - 1.xx deg + and the shop I go to still can make it straight. The toe reading is also affected by the camber, but as far as I can see, as long as they can get the toe adjustment right, the car will go straight. When I first switched to sports suspension, the camber reading was -2 deg left and -3 deg right. The car's alignment still could be done correctly without any adjustments to the camber.



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