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Lifeblurboi
post May 23 2022, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ May 22 2022, 09:10 PM)
If you're talking about going through agent to get the 189, 190 or 491 visas - I think it's okay if you have money to spare and no free time. Otherwise it's tedious work but you can save yourself a fair bit of money if you apply yourself, provided you understand what's required. They will also know the process like the back of their hand if you pick the right agent - otherwise you'll just be throwing money down the drain. For myself I was really busy with work and didn't know anything back then and needed to ensure my wife could get the visa too. So I'll say it depends on your situation and free time to research for yourself.

Otherwise if you're talking about going through agent to apply for a job here - it might be easier if you company allows internal transfer to Aus, like two people I know did. They applied to move to Aus and got the roles & then applied for PR here.
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Ahh i see, thanks for the information given, that really helps alot.

do you guys have any recommends for the consultant agency for this?
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post May 24 2022, 11:25 PM

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Hi guys, im getting an offer to
work in australia with 110k/annual exclude super.. does this offer consider good? The company will sponsor the visa.

Im currently working in KL as IT Consultant with 10 years experience and earning 200kmyr/ yr before tax… im not sure wether its worth it moving to OZ considering my earning is quite ok in MY…
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post May 25 2022, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(loki88 @ May 24 2022, 11:25 PM)
Hi guys, im getting an offer to work in australia with 110k/annual exclude super.. does this offer consider good? The company will sponsor the visa.

Im currently working in KL as IT Consultant with 10 years experience and earning 200kmyr/ yr before tax… im not sure wether its worth it moving to OZ considering my earning is quite ok in MY…
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If I was making money like that I'd probably not consider migrating - unless you're looking to get out of Msia. I think it would only be worth it if you were looking to move (you & family?) to Aus and/or already planning to migrate from the get go. Also you did not mention where the role is, as that will play a fairly big part - living in certain cities will be a lot more affordable than others. In Sydney you'll probably struggle to buy a property for a family with a single income unless it's a smaller unit. If you're single then it's probably good money depending on your lifestyle.



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post May 25 2022, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ May 25 2022, 09:48 AM)
If I was making money like that I'd probably not consider migrating - unless you're looking to get out of Msia. I think it would only be worth it if you were looking to move (you & family?) to Aus and/or already planning to migrate from the get go. Also you did not mention where the role is, as that will play a fairly big part - living in certain cities will be a lot more affordable than others. In Sydney you'll probably struggle to buy a property for a family with a single income unless it's a smaller unit. If you're single then it's probably good money depending on your lifestyle.
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Agree with you.

In Sydney, it is very difficult to get into the property market with a single income even trying to buy way out West.

Remember my friend Aziz who worked with me and had to borrow money from me every now and then? He had 5 properties all heavily geared - he recently sold a 3 bedroom house in Casula for A$875k (he would have only got A$650k 18 months ago). He now thinks he will not be able to get the old-aged pension because he and his wife has gone over the A900k limit threshold. Pays to speculate in properties in Sydney and Melbourne. All my boomer friends who have more than 1 property are all laughing to the bank.
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post May 25 2022, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 25 2022, 01:20 PM)
Agree with you.

In Sydney, it is very difficult to get into the property market with a single income even trying to buy way out West.

Remember my friend Aziz who worked with me and had to borrow money from me every now and then? He had 5 properties all heavily geared - he recently sold a 3 bedroom house in Casula for A$875k (he would have only got A$650k 18 months ago). He now thinks he will not be able to get the old-aged pension because he and his wife has gone over the A900k limit threshold. Pays to speculate in properties in Sydney and Melbourne. All my boomer friends who have more than 1 property are all laughing to the bank.
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Yeah, that's the reality for those who aren't in the boomer generation (or at least the property owners).
Sounds like your friend made it through the tough time with your help and is now reaping the rewards, haha. Good for him, and all those who could help him out.

Hopefully the new government can achieve their promises and push things in a better direction compared to their previous one that seems to be rife with corruption.
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QUOTE(kagenn @ May 25 2022, 09:48 AM)
If I was making money like that I'd probably not consider migrating - unless you're looking to get out of Msia. I think it would only be worth it if you were looking to move (you & family?) to Aus and/or already planning to migrate from the get go. Also you did not mention where the role is, as that will play a fairly big part - living in certain cities will be a lot more affordable than others. In Sydney you'll probably struggle to buy a property for a family with a single income unless it's a smaller unit. If you're single then it's probably good money depending on your lifestyle.
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im a single guy at my 30’s.. not planning to migrate but have a dream to work abroad for few years like 5 or 10 then return home for retirement.. I still love Malaysia and will always come back..

After tax my take home salary would be 7k and based on research my expense would be at minimum 3k , thus i can save 4k aud pm = 12kmyr..

The company ask me to choose which city to reside , either Melbourne , Syd, Adelaide, Perth or Brisbane..


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post May 26 2022, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(loki88 @ May 25 2022, 07:44 PM)
im a single guy at my 30’s.. not planning to migrate but have a dream to work abroad for few years like 5 or 10 then return home for retirement.. I still love Malaysia and will always come back..

After tax my take home salary would be 7k and based on research my expense would be at minimum 3k , thus i can save 4k aud pm = 12kmyr..

The company ask me to choose which city to reside , either Melbourne , Syd, Adelaide, Perth or Brisbane..
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I think that's fine as long as you can easily command the same income (or more) once you're back in Msia. Sounds great to retire at 40-ish though, lol - it's great that it's viable for you. If your goal is to save money, then wouldn't it be better to continue your current job in Msia with their lower taxes? If you push to save more than 50% in Msia it's probably double of what you can save in Aus. If you've saved up enough to retire anyway then you can always chase after your dream. Being single definitely gives you that option, and if you ever change your mind you could take up a PR.

I'm not sure if working in a corporate environment in Aus is fun, but I suppose you can travel the country while you're here. It can be a very different environment/culture - highly dependent on the company. Also I believe it'll be hard to change jobs as you will need to find another company to sponsor that visa - but with your skills/credentials it won't be too tough. It's also good the company provided you the flexibility to pick where you want to stay - at least you can choose a place that fits your criteria. I heard there's a lot more Msians in Perth and Melbourne.

In the end I think it's picking between the novelty of working abroad versus the 'mundane' life back home. If I had a nest egg prepared and things are stable even without my presence, I'd pick working in Aus. Good luck with your decision making!


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post May 26 2022, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ May 26 2022, 08:06 AM)
I think that's fine as long as you can easily command the same income (or more) once you're back in Msia. Sounds great to retire at 40-ish though, lol - it's great that it's viable for you. If your goal is to save money, then wouldn't it be better to continue your current job in Msia with their lower taxes? If you push to save more than 50% in Msia it's probably double of what you can save in Aus. If you've saved up enough to retire anyway then you can always chase after your dream. Being single definitely gives you that option, and if you ever change your mind you could take up a PR.

I'm not sure if working in a corporate environment in Aus is fun, but I suppose you can travel the country while you're here. It can be a very different environment/culture - highly dependent on the company. Also I believe it'll be hard to change jobs as you will need to find another company to sponsor that visa - but with your skills/credentials it won't be too tough. It's also good the company provided you the flexibility to pick where you want to stay - at least you can choose a place that fits your criteria. I heard there's a lot more Msians in Perth and Melbourne.

In the end I think it's picking between the novelty of working abroad versus the 'mundane' life back home. If I had a nest egg prepared and things are stable even without my presence, I'd pick working in Aus. Good luck with your decision making!
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I have come back to Msia for one year now. I find life here so different from Sydney - we can get CHEAP help and this gives us choice whether we want to do the work ourselves or get someone else to do it. I think if you have the financial resources, retirement is definitely better here. If not much money and need govt assistance then Aust is definitely better. Now that i have lived here for 12 months, my living expenses is only 40% of that in Sydney. Sydney with their high minimum wage is very expensive if you want a comfortable retirement. I am stating this from my personal lifestyle for a couple without kids.

I will probably find it very hard to get my resident return visa renewed due to the 2/5year stay requirement. We get pampered here so much and it will take a lot of effort for me to make the 2 year stay in Aust bangwall.gif

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post May 26 2022, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 26 2022, 08:55 AM)
I have come back to Msia for one year now. I find life here so different from Sydney - we can get CHEAP help and this gives  us choice whether we want to do the work ourselves or get someone else to do it. I think if you have the financial resources, retirement is definitely better here. If not much money and need govt assistance then Aust is definitely better. Now that i have lived here for 12 months, my living expenses is only 40% of that in Sydney. Sydney with their high minimum wage is very expensive if you want a comfortable retirement. I am stating this from my personal lifestyle for a couple without kids.

I will probably find it very hard to get my resident return visa renewed due to the 2/5year stay requirement. We get pampered here so much and it will take a lot of effort for me to make the 2 year stay in Aust  bangwall.gif
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Have you tried to applied for RRV? I heard some just keep applying for 1 year RRV for the sake of keeping the visa every year.
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post May 26 2022, 12:19 PM

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Thank you to all bros above for the good inputs. My children have been in Australia for a few years and stayed there over the pandemic season without returning to Msia.

One hs started working after getting her qualifications and is doing well in her work. I'm going to help her start her own practice soon.

Another is still doing an eng'g with architecture course in one of the so-called best and oldest Unis..

I learnt a lot by reading you guys' postings here.

But,... I guessed having kids is a different ballgame from being single or having a spouse without kids.

Just asking,..(edited),... emm, what do you guys think abt opening a civil eng'g practice in Australia ? Can one succeed ? Lots of human rights and workers' rights things there, I noticed,...

This post has been edited by Hansel: May 26 2022, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 26 2022, 11:07 AM)
Have you tried to applied for RRV? I heard some just keep applying for 1 year RRV for the sake of keeping the visa every year.
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Sorry to divert,... bros,.. if IC lost over there, still can apply for RRV ? I heard they would give you an Emergency Pass to come back to Msia.
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post May 26 2022, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 26 2022, 12:19 PM)
Thank you to all bros above for the good inputs. My children have been in Australia for a few years and stayed there over the pandemic season without returning to Msia.

One hs started working after getting her qualifications and is doing well in her work. I'm going to help her start her own practice soon.

Another is still doing an eng'g with architecture course in one of the so-called best and oldest Unis..

I learnt a lot by reading you guys' postings here.

But,... I guessed having kids is a different ballgame from being single or having a spouse without kids.

Just asking,..(edited),... emm, what do you guys think abt opening a civil eng'g practice in Australia ? Can one succeed ? Lots of human rights and workers' rights things there, I noticed,...
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My cousin brother has a soil analysis company with 6 engineers working for him doing soil analysis for high rise. He is 58, lives in Sydney and his company is in Blacktown. He started the company in the early nineties - he has done very well in his business and started from scratch. He has very rich parents so starting a company is very easy for him (he bought up the warehouse where his company is using and 3 adjacent units adjacent to his). Like i said all my boomer relatives and friends have done very well in Sydney had they invested in properties earlier.

Naturally being boss with 6 engineers is hard with his engineers always asking for pay rise but his company has been very profitable with so many high-rises built in the last 30-40 years. I am the poor cousin compared to him smile.gif
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post May 26 2022, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 26 2022, 11:07 AM)
Have you tried to applied for RRV? I heard some just keep applying for 1 year RRV for the sake of keeping the visa every year.
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I have no problems getting a 5 year rrv now (as i have spent the last 4 years out of 5 years in Sydney) but when the 5-year rrv expires then i may have to opt to give up my pr. Guess 5 years is a long time so wait until then and see what happens.

I like KL as a retirement destination and will find it very hard to go back to Sydney to live (esp when my wife doesn't want to go back).
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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 26 2022, 12:25 PM)
Sorry to divert,... bros,.. if IC lost over there, still can apply for RRV ? I heard they would give you an Emergency Pass to come back to Msia.
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Why do you need IC to apply for your rrv. It is the Aust Immigration jurisdication to give you the rrv so you don't need your IC. You just apply online and fill in the form - very simple as i have done it many times online (each time 5 year rrv).

Hope this helps

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post May 26 2022, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 26 2022, 01:37 PM)
Why do you need IC to apply for your rrv. It is the Aust Immigration jurisdication to give you the rrv so you don't need your IC. You just apply online and fill in the form - very simple as i have done it many times online (each time 5 year rrv).

Hope this helps
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Sorry bro Gary,... I misunderstood. RRV is to return to Australia. I was carrying the impression earlier that RRV was to return to Msia. My kid lost his IC,.... errr,....can't renew passport ??!!??
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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 26 2022, 03:33 PM)
Sorry bro Gary,... I misunderstood. RRV is to return to Australia. I was carrying the impression earlier that RRV was to return to Msia. My kid lost his IC,.... errr,....can't renew passport ??!!??
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Aiyoh.

You will need your IC to renew your Msian passport. You may need to get a temporary one from either the Melbourne or Canberra High Comm. May have to go through a lot of problem.
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post May 26 2022, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 26 2022, 01:34 PM)
I have no problems getting a 5 year rrv now (as i have spent the last 4 years out of 5 years in Sydney) but when the 5-year rrv expires then i may have to opt to give up my pr. Guess 5 years is a long time so wait until then and see what happens.

I like KL as a retirement destination and will find it very hard to go back to Sydney to live (esp when my wife doesn't want to go back).
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My friend was in an Alumni of his previous Uni, apparently a lot of people came back like you and never renewed. if it is for retirement then I would understand. they just let it expire without doing anything which some of them did.

But if it is still young I am thinking very wasteful. But per visa is AUD 410 per year renewal. assuming you have children and a spouse could go all the way up to thousands a year.

I am in my dilemma if I should renew it since my business expanded exponentially in the past 2 years. Like what will happen if i wanted to move again in maybe 10 years time when my kids grow up? Will it affect the application. since it was expired once.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 26 2022, 03:44 PM)
Aiyoh.

You will need your IC to renew your Msian passport. You may need to get a temporary one from either the Melbourne or Canberra High Comm. May have to go through a lot of problem.
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Yeah,.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 26 2022, 03:59 PM)
My friend was in an Alumni of his previous Uni, apparently a lot of people came back like you and never renewed. if it is for retirement then I would understand. they just let it expire without doing anything which some of them did.

But if it is still young I am thinking very wasteful. But per visa is AUD 410 per year renewal. assuming you have children and a spouse could go all the way up to thousands a year.

I am in my dilemma if I should renew it since my business expanded exponentially in the past 2 years. Like what will happen if i wanted to move again in maybe 10 years time when my kids grow up? Will it affect the application. since it was expired once.
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Send your family out first,... send your children there to school,... send your wife there to look after them. Let them be there fulltime,... but of course, come back for holidays at times. You continue to earn your money here,... Everything needs money,....
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QUOTE(Lifeblurboi @ May 17 2022, 04:25 AM)
Hi, can anyone here can share their experience on applying the australia work visa? do u guys DIY or engage with the agency to apply for EOI?
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Mine was 482 and sponsored by my company. The whole process took around 3.5 months to approve.

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