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limeuu
post Sep 27 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Sep 27 2019, 04:01 PM)
Vocational Education is usually for trades certificate (like plumbing, electrician, motor mechanic, chef, etc...) and usually are for people who elect to be a tradesperson. You would normally start after Year 10 and are for people who don't want to pursue University. Pursue-ing a trades profession is not a bad career path as tradespeople make a good living - you can also be your own boss once you have enough experience. One of my Malaysian friend's kids is now a chef and is working as a head chef (Mariott Sydney) and gets very good money (around A$100k) though the hours are not very digestable  tongue.gif . This kid would have done very badly had he gone to University as he was one of the thickest kids i have met (when he was young) so it is remarkable when we heard recently that he is now a head chef.
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Yes, indeed. But we are talking in the context of msians sending their children to study high school in Oz....paying full fees....And under the current points system, almost impossible to get 189/190 visa for technical people.....
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post Oct 18 2019, 03:38 PM

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With the interest rates now so low, further cuts becomes a very blunt weapon, even ineffective....just breathing space for the debts....not going to increase spending....while choking the elderly and retired who depends on interests....
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post Oct 19 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 19 2019, 03:36 PM)
Definitely agree that another 0.25% cut is coming in the next few months but the Aussie has been very resilent at the US67c support level. I have quite a lot of my investments in International shares (it is performing very well as the Aussie falls) but i also have a defined benefit super in mostly Aussie assets (about 60% of my portfolio) which is locked in until i retire. I have been hedging against a falling Aussie dollar by buying the Magellan etf (ASX code: USD) as i always felt that the Aussie will fall to around US65c.

There are a lot of retirees in Sydney (i know a few myself) who will never invest in equities and would only put their money in term deposits - they are currently suffering due to the low interest rates but i just cannot understand their mindset by investing so conservatively!! I have a very aggressive attitude by nature and even if i retire, my portfolio would still be fairly aggressive. I always believe if you have a good basket of stocks, even if it drops sharply, it will eventually go back up to their previous levels. That is why it is a good policy not to gear yourself too highly.
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Retirees by definition, are those whose horizon windows are short, at best unsure....hence standard financial advise is conservative risk adverse instruments...ie FDs....

While stocks are liquid, if you need to liquidate quickly, you can get caught in a downturn....those in the winter years may not have the luxury of waiting for it to correct.....hence never advisable, unless it's white elephant money.....

The retirees are a small and non vocal group, politically not significant, so the attention of the gov is focused on the vocal group....those investing in real estate, the only driver of the Australian domestic economy....

But the housing bubble is not sustainable in itself....

Maybe the lucky country needs a recession....it's usually cathartic.....
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post Oct 21 2019, 04:03 PM

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The Australian welfare system is generous and yes, susceptible to abuse...many immigrants try to hide their assets overseas so they are eligible for the pension....

The locals spend their way into pension.... literally!....Gary go travel round the world spend till you go below the threshold....then claim the pension....lol

Centrelink handles welfare payments....and they make eligibility decisions on what the ATO tells them....and unlike the USA IRS, the ATO is not very aggressive in collecting the worldwide income and assets information of their residents....
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post Oct 21 2019, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 21 2019, 05:18 PM)
Retirees who are able to save enough so as not to be eligible for the aged-pension are usually quite shrewd/savvy with their money. If you ask me to spend lavishly to bring my assets down so that i qualify for the aged-pension, i would rather have the security of having money under my name anytime. I would have retired much earlier had i had the mindset to fall back on the aged-pension. My super alone is now way over the threshold but i still want to build on my retirement savings which is why i am working till end-2020 (working half-time from now till end-2020 as i am taking my long service leave as well). I should have retired 3 months ago but i changed my mind as my retirement savings will grown another A$130k by just working an extra 16 months. Once retired, it will be close to impossible to land myself in another similar job (if my retirement plans go awry) because age-discrimination is rife in Aust. That is why i have to be very careful when i stop working as there is no turning back. I am now getting a bit of 'pre-retirement blues' thinking of my imminent retirement next year.
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I was half kidding, but that's apparently not uncommon amongst white Aussies, especially those marginally above the threshold, according to my wife's uncle....

I presume you are Chinese, and to most Chinese of the last generation (ie late baby boomers) going into retirement now, the practice of thrift and saving for a rainy day is hardwired into the DNA, after a few preceding generations of hardship and starvation....I am of that generation too....and yes, it's difficult to spend money!....unlike the Gen-y/millennials, there isn't much joy in spending.....

My wife's uncle has assets way above the threshold, so he is never ever going to qualify, but I told him if he doesn't spend his money fast, his only daughter will.....lol
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post Oct 22 2019, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Oct 21 2019, 09:02 PM)
i wish these mindsets can be learned by our next generation.
Having 3 toddlers myself, I always spent on necessities, spending on "need" than "want".

Even when my company is already well established, that I can afford a 4 BR house, i do not even think about buying one because it means showing wealth to friends, and my kids could be questioned by their friends where we live and soon they may start to mingle with the richer kids.

Money comes in a hard way, time and effort. Kids today may think differently, this is why we do not even buy branded stuff and luxrious car.

Sometimes when they mixing with our Korean and Hong Kong families' children, it hurts me a lot when they started asking why we didn't have that and these(they were saying really expensive toys and electronic gadgets).

Of course, we take this chance to teach them about buying necessities, not luxurious brands.

When I retire, I will probably be heading back to Malaysia though.
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It's how you bring them up, how you make decisions, they will see and learn....

My children are sometimes more kiamsiap than me now....lol

As to retiring in msia, as I get older, I realise the best place to retire is where your children are....while we are fit and healthy, it probably doesn't matter too much, and earning/saving in AUD and spending MYR is an excellent idea.... but as age, illnesses, disability creeps up, family becomes important....

Gary has no children, so it matters not, maybe msia is better due to extended family.....

All my children are in Oz, so I have to look far into the future and have the option open....
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post Oct 22 2019, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 22 2019, 04:08 AM)
This is what i have observed with all my older Msian retiree friends in Sydney - they want to be around their children and grandchildren. They say i am so stupid to go back to KL to retire because they would never go back to Msia to retire as their children are mostly in Sydney.

Two years ago (during my retirement planning), i thought i will be pretty comfortable retiring in KL when i retire with what i have. Now i am getting 'cold feet' as i get nearer to my last retirement day which is what i meant by having pre-retirement blues. In my mind, I always concluded i won't have enough to retire on if i retire too early - i can easily add a few hundred dollars (Aussie) to my bottom line by working an extra 3 years due to the compounding effect (provided there is no sharemarket crash). In Sydney, retiring at 58 is a luxury as cost of living is very high and this makes people around me all work till at least 65-67. My friends and relatives are also all advising me to continue working for another few more years at least. This is causing a huge dilemma for me!! I observe myself and can see GREED all written over my body. shakehead.gif
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Intrinsic is the fear that your savings may not be enough, as you get old, sick, in view of escalating costs.... perhaps not a big issue in Oz, due to Medicare, but very much so in Msia....

For some, it's not the money, but the problem with retirement itself, a major life changing event, which is often negative for many people....what are you going to do with all these "free" time?....

Not greed lah.....we are squirrels....just cannot stop storing for winter.....lol
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post Oct 22 2019, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 22 2019, 01:08 PM)
We have to plan well-ahead before that eventual day comes when the health starts to fail us. How abt engaging paid help without relying on the children to look after us ?
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After taking care of 2 old ladies, plus the experiences of my relatives and colleagues, even if there is plenty of money, you still need someone to help, as at that point, you cannot manage your finances yourself....

Stories abound of elderlies being cheated of their money....no guarantee your own flesh and blood wouldn't, but statistically much less so....

It's not about expecting your children to physically look after you....but someone to manage you in your last days when you no longer can.....you can live quite long with Alzheimer's.....
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post Dec 18 2019, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Dec 15 2019, 02:02 AM)
Hi guys. I've put in my EOI for visa 189 3 months ago with 85 points (with additional 10 points after the Nov 16 changes). Its for non pro rata occupation.

Based on Iscah prediction, my chances of getting an invitation seems grimmer and grimmer... the initial expected invitation date was 6 months after lodging EOI (with my points) but now it has been pushed back to "not before December 2020", that's more than a years wait.

My partner is an Australia citizen, we have checked various options ie partnership Visa, spouse visa and anything similar but all the processing time are 12 months and above.

Does anyone have any suggestion on how to expedite the visa invitation or any other potential Visa that I could get, that is faster than waiting for my 189? Would appointing a migration agent help speed up the process? I'm at my wits end.. 😞

Thanks.
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Agents doesn't make things go faster....it's not msia or some 3rd world....

Go in on a tourist visa....then put in a spouse/partner visa application....once your tourist visa expires, you will be put on a bridging visa....you can stay on and work pending the spouse visa....but you cannot leave and return unless you have a good reason....
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post Dec 18 2019, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 17 2019, 02:25 PM)
The Stage 2 results for SACE have been released this morning. My boy took Physics and Chemistry at Stage 2 this year, and the results is above average.

He is keen on studying Chemical Engineering.

Any bros or sis here applied for jobs in Chemical Engineering ? What are the chances ?
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Engineering is a pro rata profession now....

You want guaranteed job prospects....do nursing....always in demand....lol
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post Dec 28 2019, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(JessicaAlba @ Dec 28 2019, 12:37 PM)
Is it game over now for IT professionals looking to migrate to australia?
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As a prorata profession, the points needed to get EOI selected for invites is 85 points now....which is almost impossible for most people....

Still not as bad as accountants at 95 points....

But skilled independent migration is generally getting extremely difficult.... because of very low numbers of invites under the current administration....
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post Jan 1 2020, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Dec 30 2019, 04:53 PM)
Hey guys, just wanted to ask. Anyone have any contacts in the eductaion sector? Higher education/ vocational?

I'm at a crossroads whether to give up my PR or not. I have till September 2020 to decide.

I'll be honest, I've been putting it off for some time due to monetary commitments here, but its getting worse and worse and I can barely save money to sustain myself for a months of unemployment.

It's pathetic and I'm at an emotional crossroads whereby I'd be open to take ANY job that comes my way, even if it is minimum wage in Aus, just to go and keep my PR.

My main industry is education, but the 2 interviews I've had fell through and I'm begining to lose hope. Again, anything, in either WA/ VIC as it is easier to just bunk in with friends/ family temporarily), that helps, I am game.

Sorry for the long rant. Figured I may as well ask, as I have nothing to lose other than giving up my PR (which is kind of silly and ppl have been advising me against it, after having done it themselves).

Thank you.
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sounds like you have not moved to australia, and your visa is running out, as you cannot satisfy for renewal of RRV....

it is generally almost impossible to get a job from overseas, especially if you do not have the "australian experience" so vital there....

there are 2 options....either just go, work partime, minimum wage, etc in the beginning....

or don't die die want to stay in major cities, go find job in regional areas....
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(periwater @ Jan 14 2020, 01:15 PM)
Not related to working in Australia, Admin please remove  if this is not appropriate.

Anyone has ever brought in BBQ Dried Meat / Bak Kwa via airport? Last week, I went to Boxhill (eastern suburbs in Melbourne) and didn't see anyone selling it. Since I am back to MY this week, I am wondering if I could hand carry it back?
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Generally, not allowed....however, if you depart Changi, and buy at that famous bak kua shop at the airport, property prepacked, they claim to be "Australian customs compliant"....

Lately I heard that is also not allowed....
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post Feb 13 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Feb 10 2020, 01:19 AM)
Hey guys, what's the likelihood of landing a job whilst on bridging Visa with no work restriction? Do employers generally turn away bridging visa holders eventhough they have the right to work full time?
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Getting a causal job is probably not difficult, but for a permanent job, it's troublesome for employers when people have an uncertain future, so they try get locals or PRs....even graduates on 485 visa have problems....
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post Mar 3 2020, 02:08 PM

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With the current political situation, I expect to see renewed interests in this thread....lol
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Mar 4 2020, 07:58 AM)
I have a business that can run without 100% hands on. On and off i can go there and look around..so retirement age is not a concern for me. If i really get tired of it i can sell the business. Haha

Malaysia got semi government hospital. Much more cheaper than private. My uncle had operation to remove tumour, private hospital cost him RM60k but semi gov only 5k+. If full government will be almost free but u got to wait.
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What is a semi gov hospital?
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post Mar 4 2020, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Mar 4 2020, 09:02 PM)
PPUM. My wife delivered our first baby there.
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That's fully gov lah, but under ministry of education, not health....they operate as corporate entities, so charge a higher fee but less than private....it's still mostly funded by gov, as income is still below expenditure....but from MoE budget ....
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post Mar 5 2020, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Mar 4 2020, 09:02 PM)
PPUM. My wife delivered our first baby there.
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QUOTE(Rand @ Mar 5 2020, 05:56 AM)
Interesting, is this what the UM hospital is as well? I've always been told they were semi government hospitals.
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Ppum is um hospital..,.
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post Mar 7 2020, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 5 2020, 10:53 AM)
The younger generation will probably not put much into super as it may be better off putting the extra money into the mortgage as super money is locked up until you are 60.
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Except that bit where you get some tax benefit yearly....
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post Mar 7 2020, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 7 2020, 10:30 AM)
Putting money into super is taxed at 15% so someone on A$70k (average earnings in Aust) will save around 19.5% tax (marginal tax 32.5%+2% Medicare levy). For the younger generation, saving 19.5% (for those on 32.5% tax bracket) may not be a great enough inducement to have your money locked until till 60.
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There is a cap or 25k for the concessionary contribution....a 19% tax relief is significant....if you put the whole 25k, 19% is 4750, basically you get extra 4750 in your super albeit locked up till you are 60....I would do it.....

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