you can continue to use the msian licence....you only need an australian licence if you become a pr, within 3 months....

for msians, you need to resit all parts of the process, from the beginning....

there has been significant changes in tertiary education recently....more places for local students, removing of needing atar cutoffs, and increased fees for non-stem courses....

for hansel's children, being PRs, they will fall under domestic students....previously locals need higher qualifications then internationals....going forward, with a HUGE drop in international students, particularly prc, the australian government is trying to fill the places with locals, which will of course means more chances, and lower atars to enter....

but without increased funding, they are trying to increase uni income from increased fees for humanities courses.....

Graduates from Australian Universities get an extra 5 points....if in regional Oz, another 5 points....

190 sponsorship just bind you to 2 years in the state, after which you can go anywhere....

The 189/190 is permanant and does NOT expire....the original visa comes with a built in travel visa allowing you to re-enter after travels....after the 5 years, if you intend to leave and return, you need a rrv to re-enter Oz.....if you do not intend to travel, no need.....

It's difficult to get permission to leave now, you must show very good reasons....expenses for 14 days quarantine on return for residents used to be borne by the gov, but now you will have to pay yourself....$3k-5k.....

Vaccines will not be available so soon, and will likely be only moderately effective due to the nature of RNA viruses.....so we will have to live with the virus for the mid term future, continuing distancing, masks, and travel restrictions....

Msians are also NOT allowed to travel overseas without a good reason, although it's more lax....see this report...

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...-exit-c/1879166

I think every country now have some kind of travel restrictions of everybody....

over the last few years, i travel up to 2 months in a year, and spend average RM60k per year.....over the last 7 months, i spend RM0, so am saving a ton of money....lol

no, mco and closed international borders....although this is a good time to comply with the residency requirements for PRs....lol

the RRV has NOTHING to do with your PR....which needs NO renewal....the original PR comes with a built in 5 years RRV....

yes, the standard 5 years RRV starts with the grant....

the condition for issuance of RRV is always "lived in Australia at least 2 of the last 5 years"....whenever you apply....

i thought you have a PR,so you can go back to Oz, just need to pay for the quarantine, and probably cannot leave after....

or maybe it's safer in Msia at the moment....

snow expected this weekend guys.....lol

msian chinese have saving hotwired into their dna, from generations of sufferings, starvation, discrimination....

A few comments.

The points cut off for the skilled migration is very high now, needs at least 80 points or higher to have any realistic chance.

There is no need for a migration agent, they cost too much, all can be done by self with a bit of reading around. 3 relatives got 189 DIY.

The "Australian experience" requirement is VERY strong, very difficult to get real full time job without that. Many move over without job, and work part-time or casual to slowly build up the local experience creed. Under Covid-19, this is not possible, at the moment, for maybe a few years.

Immigrant starting salary will be similar to fresh graduates, about 50-70 pa gross. For singles that is enough. Not for families.

Agents always paint a very unrealistic picture about jobs and salaries. 200k is unrealistic, it's middle management level, no immigrant is going to be able to parachute into that. Even a 10 year cyber security expert with full oz experience getting 130k is considered very good.

Note that taxes are high, take home may be only 60% of gross.

Specific to IT jobs, migrants must get official accreditation by the ACS before you can get migration points and employers will consider your application. IT especially cyber security is one of the jobs with increase demand in the pandemic.

Defence and Federal gov jobs are normally only open to citizens. State gov and associated agencies will take PRs and sometimes TRs.

Public schools are better than Malaysia, but depends on school, some better than others. Enrolment is suburb based, popular school suburbs houses are more expensive. Expectations changes, and many migrants start looking at private schools again, which is VERY expensive.

While there is a distinct 4 seasons in the southern seaboard, summer can be very very hot. And dry.

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 27 2020, 11:58 AM

It's the work culture and communication skills and the fact they don't trust "work experiences" from outside, even those in other English speaking countries.

How much you need is subjective and depends on your style of life. A big chunk will go to housing, in major cities, 300-800 a week depending on city and suburb. Regional usually cheaper, but not always. CBD and inner suburbs much more.

The normal way isn't going around looking for jobs paying 120k...it's looking for any job, and hope it pays reasonable. Most entry level graduate jobs starts at 50+k...you will have to build it up slowly through promotions, and job hopping.

This is one aspect most difficult for middle aged migrants....at 40+, most are at middle level jobs in Malaysia, but have to downgrade to fresh graduate level starting a new life and career in another country. Sometimes even need to downgrade to below qualification. A relative who was a middle management banker eventually had to settle for a sales job selling Telco prepaid cards initially.

Gave up oz pr many many years ago....faced the exact dilemma then, but decided it's possible to "make it" in Malaysia....as it turns out, children will eventually find their own way, and all ended back in oz.....

Australians frown on long hours and overtime, as it's curtail their leisure time.... businesses also don't like it as labour laws mandates expensive penalty rates out of hours...

Work culture is generally better, they work hard and then also play hard...

Definitely better work life balance.

Like Gary said, your children's generic values will be strongly influenced by the prevalent environment they grow up in. ABCs and those who landed early in life will have a very Australian outlook. That can be quite different from Asian culture and values and Malaysian Asian parents may not like it. Outwardly, that is manifested as a "lack of respect", or more precisely, a lack of the Asian culture of outward respect for elders. Perhaps that stems from the principle that respect is earned, not demanded on virtue of age (or position or title or money etc).

I have a friend who actually reverse migrated back to msia for a few years purely for the expressed purpose of enabling their then late primary school children acquire Asian culture and values. only when they were going to university did they semi migrate back to NZ....(NZ has a category of indefinite PR which allows this)....

This aspect was also one of the reasons why we gave up our PR.....our toddler children will be virtually ABCs....

International schools in Msia uses the syllabus of a foreign system, and the assessment and exams of that system....completely

However, under MoE guidelines, all students must also take an additional "malaysian studies" subject, covering BM, history and islamic/moral studies...

Went up 7 sen against the MYR within the last 1/2 week. Economy in trouble, but then, every country in the world is in bad economic condition....

The cost looks still high, the more MYR may be due purely to better rates now....

The main advantage of TT is the speed. But it comes with a cost. If you don't need that speed, the cheapest way is a draft or bankers cheque. But with covid-19, it's difficult to move a piece of paper physically.

The cheapest way of converting currency is DCI (dual currency investment), but few people have access to this. Banks normal give terrible rates. Your friendly money changers in mvm gives usually good rates, both directions.

Fresh graduate from where?

Then generally, no. Unemployment is at record high now, no foreigners allowed in since March.

Even in normal times, fresh graduates cannot get a work visa. The exception is if you graduate from an onshore University with more than 2 years study, then you can apply for a 2 year Graduate Visa to stay back and try find work.

This post has been edited by limeuu: Sep 19 2020, 08:44 PM