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 Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia

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limeuu
post Mar 25 2018, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 25 2018, 07:57 AM)
A lot of my friends' children find it hard to find a full-time job after they graduate in Sydney. They are ABCs. Most have to resort to part-time work. The job market in Sydney and Melb is the strongest compared to other capital cities and even then they find it hard. ABCs definitely have a distinct advantage over immigrants when it comes to jobs esp in admin/secretarial.

Compare current situation with 1990 when i started in my current job (i had a few other contract jobs before my current job after i graduated in 1983). I was the sole applicant in a job that paid A$40k (package) at that time because a lot of Aussies perceived that to be low at that time and there were so many jobs to choose from. However a lot of my friends at Syd Uni went back to Msia because it was also fairly to get a job in Msia (with an overseas degree) and their starting pay was around RM1,600/mth and a lot of them were earning RM5k within a few years. A lot of them didn't really bother to apply for their PR after they started working in Msia. It was very easy to migrate then esp with a degree. I think the MYR/AUD rate was around 1.7 then - how times have changed!
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It depends on what jobs the ABCs are looking for...there are still some professions where there is no problems with jobs....also if one is willing to relocate to regional areas, it's not that difficult to get jobs....but most ABC have acquired the Australian habit....not keen to do 3D jobs and don't want to go out of metropolitan areas....

And then complain "cannot find jobs"...
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post Mar 27 2018, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Aidan.900 @ Mar 27 2018, 12:08 AM)
High cost of living with scarcity of jobs. Even if you have money for business, you still stand the risk of failing. There is no quality of life here, especially if you live in CBDs. The air is bad n the time n money spent to commute are horrendous, to say the least. I am not here to discourage others from migrating, just that you need to be better equipped n more importantly, choose the right countries to live.  innocent.gif
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you haven't lived in london, obviously...lol

and air?....australia is well know for fresh air and lack of pollution...even sydney....

you mean got country where guaranteed successful in business one?...

but yes, it's best to migrate only if you have a job....or in a profession where you have no difficulty getting a job....

QUOTE(Aidan.900 @ Mar 27 2018, 12:09 AM)
Choose a better country, not Australia. You will not be able to find a job there. Best is migrating to Europe.
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Europe is not a country....and it is more difficult to migrate to europe in general due to language and bad economy in many eu countries...

there is no problem getting a job in australia, if you have the right profession....
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post Mar 27 2018, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ Mar 26 2018, 06:56 PM)
Hi people.
I am new to this thread.
Could I pose a question with regard to 'eligibility to work in Australia'?
what does this means?
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having the right visa to work...and having the right qualifications for professional registration, if you are in a controlled profession.....
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post Mar 27 2018, 08:48 AM

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generally the professions on the mltssl indicate relative shortages...

however the economy will have a bearing....eg currently with the mining industry still just coming off a low, engineers, especially mining, will have problems...and accountants are in the pro-rata list, meaning too many applicants....

jobs that are always in demand includes nurses, childcare workers, early childhood and secondary school teachers, healthcare paramedics like optometrists, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, radiographers, etc and doctors (although the doors for doctors are closing too)...

i should point out these are all regulated professions so a degree, and preferably an australian degree is required for licensing...

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post Mar 27 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Aidan.900 @ Mar 27 2018, 11:58 AM)
London is more vibrant n easier to live in. Besides, you can always choose, say, Manchaster which can give you good quality of life. Pollution is really bad in CBDs n the time n money spent to commute between places make you crazy.

Europe has wider choices as you can travel between countries.
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We are talking about pollution....not "vibrancy"...and Manchester can be even more polluted than London...

And although you can move freely within the Schengen area of the EU, your ability, as a foreigner, to work and settle is dependent on each individual country's immigration law....a work permit from one country does not automatically allow you to work in another country...
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post Mar 27 2018, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Mar 27 2018, 01:25 PM)
for some unknown reason... they build really small apartments in Melbourne...

there's so many 2 bed 1 bath 500-600sf shoe boxes in Doncaster/Blackburn/Box Hill and they are going for $550-700k
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The reason is rather simple....to make "affordable" housing in "nearer" suburbs.... because inner suburbs prices are already 7 figures....

More people can afford half mil plus for 600sf than 1 mil for 3bed 2 bath 1200sf....and more people prefer Doncaster/box hill than dandenong or lilydale.....
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post Mar 28 2018, 08:27 PM

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Pte you can choose the accent of the test....
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post Mar 28 2018, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Mar 28 2018, 09:26 PM)
i pass PTE but failed Ielts 2 times.
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"pass" i presume, you got the band and points you need...

that's the reason why processing is now for 75 points, spilling down to some 70 pointers....because so many people are getting the 79 in all bands and claiming 20 points...pushing the bar up by 10 points since late last year....60-65 pointers have no chance....and many are abandoning ielts to resit for pte....
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post Apr 5 2018, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(PepelePewPew @ Apr 5 2018, 04:47 PM)
Good news. I have been offered a senior IT ops role, but one thing in the offer letter bugs me. It says normal hours of work are 38 per week, as will be directed by my manager between 8-6 mon-fri. I will also be required to work, from time to time, additional hours as necessary (outside of 8-6? Not specified), and this has been taken into account in setting my remuneration so I will not be entitled to additional remuneration or any other benefit for working additional hours.

My interpretation of this is, there is no compensation in the form of overtime or leave in lieu for the additional hours. I will have to clarify with them, of course, but I just thought maybe someone here can shed some light about the Oz work culture, that this is normal or abnormal? Now, I'm really grateful I got a job offer, and I don't mind working additional hours (not like we don't do this all the time working in KL), but the no-compensation part really bugs me.

Anyone?
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australia has a cap on how long a worker can work, generally capped at 38hrs a week....

however if work outside the official offiice hours is needed, penalty pay rates apply....

it is illegal for workers to work more than 38hrs/week....but many businesses do require some extra work out of the standard weekly hours of work....

as a first job, it may be wise to accept the terms, and see how it runs....once you have "local experience" it becomes much easier to find subsequent jobs....
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post Apr 6 2018, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(thesnake @ Apr 6 2018, 06:27 PM)
Im still waiting for my EOI since november with a score of 65 points, lately they have only given EOI for 70 points above..unsure if they would consider 65 points or not.
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Processing is now done for 75 points, with spill over to 70 points....never touching 65 points the last 6 months....

With the pte, too many people getting the full 20 points for English....
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post Apr 8 2018, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Apr 8 2018, 03:43 AM)
In Aust, the term life insurance means buying 'death cover' and you need to pay a premium for it which is lost forever. I think buying life insurance in Malaysia is defined as buying an 'annuity' in Oz which means that you pay premiums for a set number of years and you get a lump sum at the end of the term. Death cover is popular in Oz because you leave something to your closest ones when you pass on. Looking at what you have written, you are probably more interested in growing your savings so it is probably best not to buy the life insurance component in your super. Like in me as an example, i have a death-benefit cover in my State Super for about $900k but i pay a small premium for it and the premium is lost forever. Most super have life insurance coverage and it means a death-benefit cover.

As a sidenote, i initially thought you were a young kid around 20 years old after looking at your name xxxxxPewPew. biggrin.gif
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That is called the term life insurance....you set a end date, and the insurance expires after that date....you get nothing....but if you die within the insurance period, your nominees get a payout....cheap premium....

The other more common type is the whole life insurance.... payout anytime you die...more expensive....
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post Apr 8 2018, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Apr 8 2018, 06:44 AM)
Does the quota apply to all applicants in general or there are specific quotas allocated for each occupation listed?

Btw, anyone here working as architect in Australia specifically in Melbourne?
How easy/difficult is the process of getting UK degree assessed by AACA?
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It appears they are just taking the high pointers and processing them...only pro-rata professions have processing quotas...as there are more applicants than places....
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post Apr 8 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Apr 8 2018, 09:01 AM)
Oh? Ok. I didn't realise this as most of my friends have a death benefit built-in into their super and you pay a premium which is quite cheap.
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I am referring to the Msian scenario...the Aussies get it right by just buying a death benefit insurance within the super....

Msians unfortunately don't see insurance as risk coverage, and tend to see it as 'investment'... expecting to get something back at the end...the premium is thus much bigger, the additional chunk as 'investment'...but the returns usually is dismal....

I have a term insurance till 60....if I survive to 60, it lapses and I get nothing....but if I survive to 60, I don't need the return from. Insurance...i should be able to cover all my children's education, and my retirement needs....

If I die before, then that's when my family needs my insurance payout.... big cover for little premium....
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post Apr 12 2018, 04:58 PM

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http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/v...a-limbo/8789076

A relative just got the PTE results....full 90 marks in all components...after two attempts at IELTS with 7.5 in writing (overall band 8.5)....

Wonder how long before DIBP realise there is a problem with pte....lol
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post Apr 19 2018, 09:39 AM

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Someone with an eoi for 189 waiting months at 65 points decided to take the PTE, got full 90 marks, revised eoi to 75 points and get called for processing after 3 days....

Fyi
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post Apr 20 2018, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(stargirl @ Apr 20 2018, 09:07 AM)
Thank you for such details and useful information.
Currently i just have 55points+5points (partner), if have additional state nomination (5 points) and IELTS with score 7 for an extra 10 points would be better. However, IELTS is my concern now because my English not that good.
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Your 55 points include the English?....
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Apr 20 2018, 02:02 PM)
I was in Hobart for 2 years doing my degree and i think the people there even friendlier than Melbourne or Sydney laugh.gif

Tasmania is pretty boring but if there is an Australian city i would like to retire, i'd pick Hobart tongue.gif
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oh...kenji also utas grad....

hobart is ok, but there are some bogan suburbs in the northside, so avoid them....

launnie is more "boganish", but lately better, perhaps because more asians now....
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post Apr 21 2018, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(stargirl @ Apr 20 2018, 04:34 PM)
Nope. If include English should be extra 10points if score 7.
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"If"?

So you haven't done your English....

I would suggest PTE over IELTS....very difficult to get band 8 in all components....and if your English is not good, band 7 also difficult....

In contrast, many are getting high marks in pte allowing them to claim fill 20 points....

Processing is now at 75 with some 70 pointers being called....
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(PepelePewPew @ Apr 23 2018, 05:44 AM)
Well, back in Dec 2017, both 189/489 invites were 75 points minimum. Not even 70 points. And I still received a 190 invite with just 70 points (including state nomination 5 points). So it's not impossible. But of course, state nomination is at the discretion of the corresponding state, so mileage varies.

For EOI submission, I'd say the sooner you do it, the better. Get on the waiting list earlier, provided you have minimum 70 points, AND all documentations to substantiate your points are ready. Once you get invited, which could be just days from EOI submission, you have a deadline to meet in submitting your visa application.

Realistically, it does seem like 189 EOI with 65 points will never get a response for a year or two. You can give 190 a shot with either NSW or Victoria. You are allowed to submit EOI for 189 and 190, even multiple states.
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There are a lot of 75 pointers, so on every round, they get invited first....then if there are still slots, the 70 points get invited on a queue basis. No invites for 65 points the last half year or so....

As long as PTE continue to be accepted, lots of people will be getting the full 20 points and applying with 75 points.....that is unlikely to change if people continue to get 20 points for English....

Those sitting on 65 points should either sit for the PTE and move to 75 points, or try for the 190 with 70 points....
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post Apr 24 2018, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(stargirl @ Apr 23 2018, 02:33 PM)
I've submitted EOI and preparing to take IELTS or PTE next 1-2months.
Hopefully can get higher score.
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How can you submit an eoi without the results of an English test?....you don't know how many points to claim...

Edit: you submitted with 60 points, will never get processed under current circumstances...

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