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post Jun 26 2019, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 26 2019, 11:42 AM)
Just want to say that the requirement to only work and stay in the sponsoring state is only a moral obligation. I don't want to encourage anyone to break the obligation but just sharing my own experience on a 190 visa sponsored by NSW and never having worked or stayed in NSW.

Been 3 years so far, no issues. People say there may be issues with citizenship later but we'll see.
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Is true
But i do like SA smile.gif
No so crowded and peaceful
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post Aug 17 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 17 2019, 10:01 PM)
you can enter at the last day of your visa validity....and stay on.....just don't leave until you are eligible for a rrv....
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if u miss the eligibility, meaning only 1 year RRV per renew right?
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post Aug 18 2019, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Aug 18 2019, 11:00 AM)
As far as i know, they keep giving you a 1 year RRV but you must satisfy them on why you cannot meet their 2 years out of 5 stay. While on a 1 year rrv visa, they will monitor how long you have stayed in the preceding 5 years - if they are not satisfied that you are serious about staying 2 out of 5 years, they will not grant you any further 1 year RRV - this will in effect mean that you will be forced to stay in Aust until you have fulfilled the 2/5 requirement. When you reflect on this, it means the govt want you to spend at least 40% of your time in Aust. ranting.gif
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it makes PR look like a source of economy lol.

well, even if i just stay for 2 years, with no contribution of tax(meaning no work), they won't allow to extend.
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post Sep 23 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 23 2019, 12:41 PM)
Guys,... I'm just tapping your opinions here,... would it be a plus if your parents sent you here earlier, say you did your Middle School here ?

YOu would then have had a lot of time to assimilate into the society, and would have made your networks there,...
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A plus to get points in their PR system yes.

A minus in terms of financial, imagine staying for 2-3 years, each year cost RM 60-100k per kid.

I do know many people who applied without studying in Aussie, and manage to succeed getting their PR.

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post Sep 24 2019, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 24 2019, 12:34 AM)
How will doing high school in Oz help with the points?....
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Oh yes, thats not uni degree/diploma.
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post Oct 19 2019, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 19 2019, 03:36 PM)
Definitely agree that another 0.25% cut is coming in the next few months but the Aussie has been very resilent at the US67c support level. I have quite a lot of my investments in International shares (it is performing very well as the Aussie falls) but i also have a defined benefit super in mostly Aussie assets (about 60% of my portfolio) which is locked in until i retire. I have been hedging against a falling Aussie dollar by buying the Magellan etf (ASX code: USD) as i always felt that the Aussie will fall to around US65c.

There are a lot of retirees in Sydney (i know a few myself) who will never invest in equities and would only put their money in term deposits - they are currently suffering due to the low interest rates but i just cannot understand their mindset by investing so conservatively!! I have a very aggressive attitude by nature and even if i retire, my portfolio would still be fairly aggressive. I always believe if you have a good basket of stocks, even if it drops sharply, it will eventually go back up to their previous levels. That is why it is a good policy not to gear yourself too highly.
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i used similar method in Malaysian equity and bonds, and US funds.

most return 6-9% except the negative one from dynasty equity.

but overall is green and above 6% per annum, almost similar like EPF.

i haven't really study ASX, usually, I will start with the worst news and gradually go into the better one.
so far I cannot see how Aussie output can improve apart from Mining.

Assets holder and term deposit in Aussie will suffer with the rate cut. unless they have strong holding power or no debt, they would suffer in the recession to come.

Not everyone is fund players. But most non-fund player i know would take things for granted. Imagine having 70% of their salary parked into assets. with no margin to move their fund around. Want to sell asset, need to take time. fund players can sell quickly and park into something else.
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post Oct 21 2019, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 21 2019, 06:16 PM)
All my Malaysian retiree friends (living in Aust) are very careful with their spending esp the richer ones. All of them have children and i can understand they would like to leave some kind of legacy for their offsprings. This is just typical of our Chinese heritage. Eventhough my income is quite considerable, my wife and i are still quite frugal - we have grown up with that kind of mindset!! We only spoil ourselves with the occasional restaurant meal (a bit more often nowadays as i get closer to retirement). In Sydney, i still drive an older model Honda CRV (belonged to my sister since new and she gave it to me when she retired 8 years ago). My wife and i are so used to being thrifty and we quite enjoy a simpler lifestyle. My wife is now planning our future overseas holidays (when i retire) and even then, we are quite careful that we do not overspend unnecessarily.

It is now nearly bedtime for me (9.15pm Sydney time) so it is time for me to say good night.
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i wish these mindsets can be learned by our next generation.
Having 3 toddlers myself, I always spent on necessities, spending on "need" than "want".

Even when my company is already well established, that I can afford a 4 BR house, i do not even think about buying one because it means showing wealth to friends, and my kids could be questioned by their friends where we live and soon they may start to mingle with the richer kids.

Money comes in a hard way, time and effort. Kids today may think differently, this is why we do not even buy branded stuff and luxrious car.

Sometimes when they mixing with our Korean and Hong Kong families' children, it hurts me a lot when they started asking why we didn't have that and these(they were saying really expensive toys and electronic gadgets).

Of course, we take this chance to teach them about buying necessities, not luxurious brands.

When I retire, I will probably be heading back to Malaysia though.
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post Nov 13 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(BobSponge @ Nov 13 2019, 03:10 PM)
Hey guys.

I have a question here, hopefully some one can help regarding the ATO statement below.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

Becoming an Australian resident
When you become an Australian resident (other than a temporary resident), you're taken to have acquired certain assets at the time you became a resident for their market value at that time.
Taken from ATO website LINK


I got my PR early this year but the thing is I have several properties back in Malaysia. Reading the ATO website, it says that we become a resident based on the market value of the properties at the time we got the PR if my understanding is correct.

So I assume, we will have to get a property valuation, am I right?  I've been here for about 6 months now so is it too late to get the property valuation now? Is there a timeframe on when we have to get the valuation?

can anyone advice on this matter?
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i have friends owned few property here in Malaysia who moved to Aussie with PR.
to my understanding, when u become citizen then only u declare it.

Could be reason why many couples only turn 1 of their PR to citizen while their other half(spouse) remain Australian PR, so they don't get taxed.
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post Dec 28 2019, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(JessicaAlba @ Dec 28 2019, 12:37 PM)
Is it game over now for IT professionals looking to migrate to australia?
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not sure, 2 of my best mate from IT line now working in other field though.
One is doing freelance website design for Malaysian customer, but another went to Restaurant line.
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post Jan 10 2020, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jan 8 2020, 09:21 AM)
Thanks dude.

I already have a Aussie mobile number that works. No problem working in jobs not related; have always kept an open mind with regards to that as I anticipated the initial difficulty.

Monetary problems mostly. Family here is not very helpful; I'm 1 of the 2 people in this household who has fixed income and with all the stuff to take care of, it's impossible to save anything because people here are selfish.
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People selfish? U mean the family u have or the people in aussie?
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post Jan 30 2020, 02:51 PM

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Having kids can make parents become frugal eventually, even though there is a surplus for saving after covered every necessity.

This is the thought our family always carry, each generation. For I who have a few businesses back in KL, I wouldn't want to spend too much on over-hyped stuff like super babies education or super international school.

The only thing I find it difficult to accommodate my kids in Aussie is the time, me and my wife loves to work.

I send my children back home in KL for daycare and decent Montessori it cost me about 250 AUD per month per kid, she started at 2.5 years old.

When my kid enter kinder in Aussie, she asked me these questions "daddy, teacher taught me these before" or "daddy, the school here is boring", my wife went to check with her kinder, and apparently most of the kids just started first education in their life, but our kid already went through 2 years of learning.

I am not trying to compare, but at 2.5 years old, daycare can cost a lot in Aussie. Therefore, I rather spent her in proper daycare and teaching school back in KL.

But cultural wise, I believe she will happier in Aussie with a less stressful environment. In the past I had fought with my wife before, she wanted our kids to not get too comfortable and therefore she wanted her to study in Malaysia until standard 6 in Malaysia. We are still deciding on this issue, but to be separated frequently from kids is not what I wanted.
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post Jan 31 2020, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 31 2020, 07:12 AM)
While I have doubts with Aus education, I really disliked the education in Msia - been a crap student all my life and it'll only get you so far if you do not have any additional motivation. Memorizing stuff and regurgitating it out during exams is not my idea of learning. I think as long we raise the kids right they'll have a good mix of our old Msian and Western values. The rest is probably for them to discover by themselves. At least they won't get all the caning I received in school/home  biggrin.gif
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well, it is much different now after the internet boom.
students now are so much smarter than before, teacher also get pressured kao kao if teaches wrong stuff.

ask me, i tell u is true, cause my aunt is a teacher biggrin.gif government school.

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post Feb 27 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Feb 27 2020, 10:17 AM)
Hello good gentlemen. Could someone kindly give their estimate that would greatly help me and others. For people who are earning the following salaries in Malaysia:
A: RM 60,000 annual
B: RM 120,000 annual
C: RM 180,000 annual
D: RM 240,000 annual

How much equivalent AUD salary should they expect if they migrate to AUS with the same or better comfort level in life?
Note that their plan is to move to Melb/Syd and stay there till old. Not earn AUD and convert back to MYR. So please avoid the stronger currency justification. As you can see, some of they have earned decent living in KL, they do not plan to restart career from lower level in AU.

Objective: avoiding recruitment lowballer.
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I am the person who got the PR, but can't move there completely like others career seeker.
I have children, therefore the expenses will be high.

I am at between B&C. very comfortable in KL, but if I move to Aussie today completely sold my businesses in KL. I think 5k AUD a month nett after tax will be enough for us to stay comfortably. But I am also will want to worry about healthcare. Secondly, although lifestyle is good, but the value of life in Children's mindset will be different compared to KL.

Anyway, coming back to salary, depending on what you seek. At this age, I would not have enough pension funds because I didn't start off in Aussie from graduation. I need to make sure I want to have the 15 years of pension fund already sitting in Aussie's Super for the dividend in order to make sure my retirement is okay.
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post Mar 3 2020, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(momox666 @ Mar 3 2020, 09:26 AM)
Just want to ask, is it ridiclous for malaysian to apply for jobs in australia via seek.com.au? i mean what are the chances to get hired? lets say one got so lucky to be selected, the company there gonna provide a working visa for him or her? anyone care to advise?
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Once i tried applying job there

PR holder like me got 3 to 4 responses over 30 to 50 application ranging from small to big company.

I went to employment office to get my CV done nicely + a short training for my interview too.

It all depends on what field. My field is too common. Whereres i heard my friend with science background get job very quickly. Plus unemployment rate is getting higher recently

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post Mar 3 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 3 2020, 02:08 PM)
With the current political situation, I expect to see renewed interests in this thread....lol
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Coronavirus lah.
hahaha, risk to stay and risk to travel
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post Mar 4 2020, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 4 2020, 03:26 AM)
I initially planned to go back to KL next week (tickets all booked) for 2 months and now i am cancelling all travel plans for the next 6 months. Best not to go anywhere.

I was initially planning to retire end of this year and now so many things happening (sharemarkets dropping), i might put off my retirement until things settle down a bit. I have been doing a lot research into the retirement life (for retirees in Msia) and it appears a good proportion of retirees (couples) in Msia survive with less than rm5k/mth. This is a real shock to me!! Aust has old-aged pension so not having so much retirement assets is not so much of a concern (when we get older). Also, you got Medicare to fall back on as well if you don't have private health insurance. In Msia, there is no safety net so we have to be extra careful with our retirement assets (cannot take so much risks like what i have been currently doing).

Sorry to bore you guys with my retirement talk!! People my age all only talk about our retirement issues. biggrin.gif
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I have a business that can run without 100% hands on. On and off i can go there and look around..so retirement age is not a concern for me. If i really get tired of it i can sell the business. Haha

Malaysia got semi government hospital. Much more cheaper than private. My uncle had operation to remove tumour, private hospital cost him RM60k but semi gov only 5k+. If full government will be almost free but u got to wait.
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post Mar 4 2020, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 4 2020, 08:41 PM)
What is a semi gov hospital?
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PPUM. My wife delivered our first baby there.
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post Mar 5 2020, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Mar 5 2020, 05:56 AM)
Interesting, is this what the UM hospital is as well? I've always been told they were semi government hospitals.
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UM is the one. They charge very cheap on many things.
For example. Private hospital notmal labor could be RM 10k. They charge only RM 1k at most. With decent labor room and shared bed. Service is ok. Not too bad.

Of course GH is almost foc. But there super busy.
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post Mar 11 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Mar 10 2020, 01:26 PM)
When i started out in this forum (Jul 2017), i came to LYN to find out the cost of living in KL so naturally threads regarding cost of living really interested me.

I have been back to KL for quite a few times in the past 3 years each time staying about 5-7 weeks. I wrote down everything i spent while in KL but obviously we tend to spend more when we are on holidays and it is quite difficult to judge how much i will need without actually living there. I saw a lot of old people in KL with hardly any savings - shit!! This reqlly scared me as in Aust, we can fall back on the aged-pension. Also, i can see some of my relatives struggling financially (aged in the 70s) and i realise that they will probably expect me to help out as i am financially a lot better. In Aust, there is so much govt welfare relatives usually don't need help from each other. I became a bit insecure (financially) after seeing so many people struggling in KL (esp since i will probably lose my PR as i probably cannot meet the 2/5 years stay requirement). I do not want to end up like these people. Due to this insecurity, i find that it is probably better if i work longer so that there will be a bigger buffer if anything goes wrong in later years.

Good to hear your opinion. Thanks.
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lol, I think I am more comfortable in KL than in Aussie when I retire.
At least I don't have to think about high expenses later.

with free government medication and service in KL, + comfort food. I can't name more than that, and that is already very gooding for me.
+ I don't have to face direct racism in Aussie like randomly on the streets.

Malaysia also have racism, but i don't remember facing that on the streets, is only political side that causes the indirect racism towards us.


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post Mar 12 2020, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Mar 12 2020, 07:03 AM)
Quite ironically I've encountered more racism in Bankstown, with a heavy migrant population. Can't tell accurately where they're from but I'm assuming they're Lebanese due to the heavy population in the area. Few have called me 'Chink' and the other was when myself/wife were checking out a property for sale board - some lady with her kids a the nearby playground said "damn Chinese are here to buy all our houses". Should've said I was here for the whole block and thrown monopoly money into the air. Another 2 incidents were by younger white teenage girls in CBD trying to intimidate me and then leaving when they achieved nothing.

In Msia its a different dynamic: we have veiled racism that's more malicious and the everyday racism. I think now with the newly formed government cabinet, the effects will be slightly worse than before - especially the hardliners who believe it should be this way. As I am quite paranoid whenever in Msia (or scarier suburbs here), I tend to take notice of people's behaviour and you will see this in certain people. I don't think humans will reach a state of discrimination free co-existence in my lifetime.

I guess when converting AUD to MYR one can survive a lot longer and more comfortable. Standard of living in Msia isn't much cheaper either near PJ, my typical chicken/pork rice has increased in price its easily double of when I started buying from them 6-7 years ago.  Most of the shops I used to enjoy are now charging higher price for below average quality. Plus traffic and public transport is still unbearable to me - not the best in Sydney but it feels so much more reliable and consistent. Constantly allocating at least an hour to wait for a bus is far from user friendly. I would be quite happy to be a citizen elsewhere once all ties and family in Msia are no longer present.
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Sometimes i do fear that Malaysian politic becoming very racist.

But then again when I think. How did it affect me and my business? It almost feel like nothing! Apart from tax and gst, i dont see how it can affect me.
I dont know how it can affect me though. For the pass 20 years business as usual, still importing products from foreign land and selling it here. People still buy, talk about bmf it didnt even affect my business at all! I submit tax on time, make things clean at my workplace, authority did not kacau me at all.

But i can understand why youngsters are getting more frustrated in Malaysia. End of the day, as long as my children happy they want to live in sg, au, us. I dont care. My retirement life is very soon and i know when I retire I still can have passive income from my business in Malaysia. And I can go AU to stay with my kids anytime.

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