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post Aug 27 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Aug 27 2020, 12:31 PM)
Thanks for setting the expectations. I can imagine what you are saying and we are aware of this, that makes us wonder if it is all well worth it at the end of the day. There is no gold at the end of the rainbow but solely based on belief that the current struggles will be better for the children. Both fingers crossed.

Btw, are you currently in Australia?
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there is not about gold, in the end of the day is where we comfortable live on.
There may be discrimination of welfare and policy in Malaysia but I sometimes asked myself, do I really get affect? we grown up in a world without asking for donations or help from government, so we lived with that. And can make money, put food on table, and even have money to migrate if we want. We buy property without caring about bumi or non bumi thing.

I don't think we will became lazy in Aussie and also we also don't want to expect our Children ask for welfare in Aussie, and rely on it.

I also have dillemma but I don't force myself to move to Aussie. I only follow the scent of where the biggest chunk of money can come. lol, if it is is Cambodia, or Vietnam now with bombastic manufacturing opportunity, why not lol.
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post Aug 27 2020, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(merchant9 @ Aug 27 2020, 03:02 PM)
I agree with your viewpoint that all the shout out about unfair policies does not really affect us because we are hardworking and as you said will buy property without caring about bumi and non-bumi benefit. And I also agree that our children should not leech off any welfare wherever we end up in.

Actually, we live semi comfortable lives in Malaysia.We don't have big business venture like those investor or factories in Cambodia or Vietnam. My husband is salary man and he is happy where he is at. I run a small business, we have enough. But we are not young, like many of you said, at 40, to restart and re-climb the corporate ladder may be hard for him if he is the sole breadwinner in a foreign land.

We just thought going over will change our children lives. By how, we do not know. The thought of migration is basically for our family to open a second door in case things go south back home. We dont intend to give up our citizenship and will likely to retire in Malaysia as it is cheaper, better weather, food, relatives, etc.

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it is good to have second choice, thats why I did the same. Waiting to renew my visa and over again probably for until they are mature enough.

I did however, also thought Singapore will second choice for my kids because of value of upbringing about the same as the local schools in Malaysia, but more competitive and probably more peer pressure.

There is also another thing about having my kids in Aussie, it is true they can be more socialized and open, but I don't want them to turn into Puberty period when they are teenage lol. because i saw 2 of my relatives teenage kids behave like western kids, thick cosmetic and body revealing photos in FB and insta, and probably too much too close to their male friends. I thought it could be me being too kolot(outdated mindset). I hated myself for thinking that way, but i want just want to protect them more.




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post Aug 28 2020, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Aug 28 2020, 04:54 AM)
There is a big difference in attitudes between ABCs and Msian kids. Kids brought up in Aust will always be more independent and less respectful (if that is the correct word) but that is the way it is - you have some positives with some negatives. Sometimes the older generation has to 'allow' kids to develop their own natural personality though we must guide them. I don't have any kids so i don't have much authority on this subject  tongue.gif

Just my 2c worth on a problem faced by having kids going in a direction that they may not agree with.

Closing my post with an update on Sydney weather again - spring weather seems to be finally knocking on the door rclxm9.gif . We are likely to get a lot of sunshine with afternoon temps around 20+ for the coming week.
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it is, but i need to correct a bit.

In Malaysia, my first child is now in a decent pre-school. I am paying about RM 900 per month for montessori, not to say the super expensive one. but is another different method that Kinder.

She is getting alot of positive teachings from her Malaysian teachers. And since she entered the school, she became more independent than her cousins, she is entering 6. My wife thought it is her atttitude that followed my DNA, but when we attended New Year party last year, i was surprised to see other kids behave the same. Though i can't say much because she is only early stage but definately better than before she enter about 1.5 year ago.

and i think Independent is very subjective word to use. Some kids who do not attend school until age 5 here in Malaysia were independent already, because of home teaching. I do also surveyed many schools recently with my SIL's children, standing outside of classrooms and see how kids react. It is surprisingly many kids are different from our time. Not like silent or shy when the teacher asking questions, i visited both government and chinese vernacular school.

It is always a growing perception Malaysian parents are being brainwashed that overseas syllabus are better or moving to study overseas are better.

As a parents and adult, we need to be rational to not think the 3rd world country education system is always bad. This mentality will affect alot of genuine teachers who have the true passion to teach. I once met up with a group of teacher from a school for some job related, you know the most unfair thing for them to hear? Kids who are graduated from their school that are being send to overseas, mentioning Malaysia education is low quality, how in the first place the kid can pass the prerequisite to enter good college overseas? Because the childrens are entitiled, doesn't mean that they should degrade this teaching, it is equivalent to degrading the teachers. I was like that, and I have changed.

And in the end what will happen to the passionate teachers? they will be always the one that get blamed for nothing by the rich and entitled.

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post Aug 28 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 28 2020, 12:11 PM)
I strongly believe that there are many passionate and professional teachers in Malaysia. Unfortunately they all have to teach the same syllabus that puts emphasis on memorising. My teachers in Malaysia did their best but I am not very good in memorizing and regurgitating stuff. Did not do so well on all those science subjects, sejarah and Moral that required memorising. I honestly thought I was pretty dumb until I went to uni for an Australian degree and ended up doing quite well because they put a greater emphasis on understanding the subject instead of memorising.

Don't get me started on how skewed and biased Sejarah is and how useless and ineffectual Pendidikan moral is. These are not the hallmarks of an effective syllabus and there is nothing the teachers can do about this no matter how passionate they are.

Given a choice, I would rather have my children go through an education system that emphasises communication and critical thinking rather than knowing facts (sometimes without understanding) and writing these down onto an exam paper.
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memorising? you mean very traditional way of government schools?

Sorry to say, I believe this thinking is outdated as my kids arent memorizing anything until today, neither her future schools that I already surveyed. there are many choices now in Malaysia, from public to private. There are plenty of schools now in Malaysia follows the international teaching methods. When I was in Melbourne U i also require to memorizing facts. Taylors, Sunway private too.

There are plenty of choices in Malaysia and Singapore now, we do not have to generalize the schools that you attended 'memorizing' 'uncritical thinking' applies to all the schools. I can recommend you links of the choices if you want. There are so many of them now compared to our time.

again, I think we need to stop the perception and assumption of schools are always better at a foreign land.

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post Sep 5 2020, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Sep 5 2020, 04:13 AM)
Great information to know.

Apparently for people wanting to leave Aust, you need to get something from the Malaysian Embassy in Melb saying that you agree to pay the rm2,100 quarantine fees before you are allowed to fly. You also need to request exit permission (from the Aust Border Force) to return to Msia (for Aust citizens and PRs) and this is easier to obtain now after a lot of people with dual citizenships complained.

I may be retiring soon (possibly end of the year) and may want to fly back to KL some time early next year. It will probably be a one-way flight for me to try out my retirement in KL.
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maybe now is good time to buy this biggrin.gif

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post Oct 9 2020, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 9 2020, 12:58 PM)
Not really tax cut....just finally adjusting the tax rate bands after years of inflation driven tax hikes through gradual tax band creep....

But yes, it's more money in hand.... but the question is, will people spend it?
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the last time when government hand out 1k AUD to each family prior to boxing day, many of my friends didn't use it.

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post Oct 9 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Oct 9 2020, 02:05 PM)
I will definitely not be spending it. After this pandemic, i have been ultra careful with my money.

This pandemic has caused a lot of people to change their behaviour with money in Aust - people have become more frugal and are saving more than before the pandemic.
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true. imagine when you are reaching 50s, and u realize your eagle years had gone, and u only saved up not even enough until life end.

some say can still work what. but when bones ands brain slowed down, it will be so challenging to past through the final few years before retirement.
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post Oct 9 2020, 05:34 PM

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my only investment is through FSM (fundsupermart).
Averagely getting back 7-9% in good years, worst-case scenario is 4-5%.

But I love to invest in business more. Currently have 2 self funded business. 1 is main another is side income. I wish i can replicate these in Aussie.
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post Jan 26 2021, 02:20 PM

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Can someone tell me where can I racism in Aussie? I am considering doing this. It doesn't affect me but I do believe Aussie should revoke this racist PR holder in Aussie.

I will make short summary:
This guy lives in Aussie. he has a start up in Malaysia. He doesn't even need to be back in Malaysia.
So we all know the dumb BMF moves are all around.

1.) A non-Bumi company distributing Aussie products in Malaysia and Singapore.
2.) This product sells very well, so he dug out the info that there is only 1 Bumi, but not a major shareholder of this company. Thus not a bumi company.
3.) So since he has many followers, he influences them indirectly about BMF, not to buy this brand anymore.
4.) But the thing is that the product is 100% produced in Aussie, meaning he also indirectly hurt the Aussie producer sales volume.

I do believe the Aussie government will look into this because it is a trade involved Aussie economy.
Any guide for me to report them in Aussie website?
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post May 29 2021, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 29 2021, 09:57 AM)
Yes - i am back in KL now and currently in hotel quarantine (Pj Hilton). Service in Pj Hilton is quite good and i got a personal bellboy doing things for me  smile.gif  (i tip him a lot!!).

All my friends tell me that i am crazy to come back to KL at this stage. My old badminton buddies had a farewell dinner for me at Zilver Rest (all friends that i had played with for more than 25 years) two weeks earlier. We had about 24 people attend the dinner.

I have another week to go before i am out of quarantine. My wife and i will be living in our apartment in Mont Kiara - we will probably go out only for essentials. There will be a lock down in KL on 1 June - goodness knows how long the lock down will go on for! We got people buying things for us so we will probably not need to go out much. Our relatives are so happy we are back in KL.

One of the reasons why i decided to come back now is because of the onset of winter. My wife and i really dislike the cold and has decided to risk Covid coming back to KL (in favour of the warmth). I was initially thinking of going to Queensland for 3 months over winter before considering whether to come back to KL. After much consideration, i thought i will risk it coming back to KL.

Hopefully i won't regret my decision coming back to KL a year from now. Anyway, i can always go back to Sydney to live if i don't like it here in KL. My wife is the one who is really very happy as she gets to be with her younger sister.
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I got a few japanese work mates moved there with endless employment pass lol. Mont kiara is a nice place
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post May 31 2021, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ May 31 2021, 08:59 AM)
Did you get your vaccinations before leaving Australia?

The situation in Malaysia is quite concerning now, especially in Klang Valley.
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Correction: It was concerning Since Sabah Election. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2022, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(NeeYaMa @ Mar 24 2022, 03:06 PM)
Hi guys. My wife has an offer to be relocated to Sydney for a couple of years on work visa. We have a 1 year old and it seems daycare there is damn expensive ! Are there any cheaper options that im not considering ?
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no lol. unless you know any friends who work as housewives they willing to help you but still 90 aud+ per day. Now i think raised to 120-140 depending on location.

Those days I just have my wife stay at home.
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post May 19 2022, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 19 2022, 08:57 AM)
Went renew my passport at Jalan Duta yesterday with my wife - Immigration office nowadays is opened until 10pm. Not much of a queue as only a select group of people were allowed in - i belong to the senior citizen group (anyone born on or before 1 Jan 1962 is classified as a senior citizen). Most people are told to lodge online applications.

I was asked why i have been out of the country (Msia) for so long and if i had other citizenships - told them negative and was asked how i managed to live overseas for so long during Covid. Told them i have pr in Australia and was asked to show my resident return visa (rrv) which i did. No problems after this. I suspect the Immigration Office is trying to weed out those who have taken other citizenships and still renewing their Msian passports especially when some of them have gone back to live during Covid.
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it is always this way.

part of the past reason is people trying to take advantage of the Malaysian subsidies or cheap prices using dual citizenship a long time ago.
I don't think is so much lucrative now. But it still applies to some people.

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post May 22 2022, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lifeblurboi @ May 21 2022, 04:49 PM)
thanks bro, but because i read some other forum that they said its not easy to get visa sponsored by company, the best way is only they invite us to take visa which is (189, 190 and 491). i just wonder whats the different between agent and self apply, do they really help us alot during this process? do u think it worth the money ?
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agent will beautify your resumes and place your application.
I was a marketing specialist way back then, but also in charge of procurement and category manager.

So my CVs did include both skills. Where Vetassas recognize.

But you got to tell your HR or boss to acknowledge it for you if the officer calls to verify. it has to be genuine.
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post May 26 2022, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 26 2022, 08:55 AM)
I have come back to Msia for one year now. I find life here so different from Sydney - we can get CHEAP help and this gives  us choice whether we want to do the work ourselves or get someone else to do it. I think if you have the financial resources, retirement is definitely better here. If not much money and need govt assistance then Aust is definitely better. Now that i have lived here for 12 months, my living expenses is only 40% of that in Sydney. Sydney with their high minimum wage is very expensive if you want a comfortable retirement. I am stating this from my personal lifestyle for a couple without kids.

I will probably find it very hard to get my resident return visa renewed due to the 2/5year stay requirement. We get pampered here so much and it will take a lot of effort for me to make the 2 year stay in Aust  bangwall.gif
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Have you tried to applied for RRV? I heard some just keep applying for 1 year RRV for the sake of keeping the visa every year.
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post May 26 2022, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ May 26 2022, 01:34 PM)
I have no problems getting a 5 year rrv now (as i have spent the last 4 years out of 5 years in Sydney) but when the 5-year rrv expires then i may have to opt to give up my pr. Guess 5 years is a long time so wait until then and see what happens.

I like KL as a retirement destination and will find it very hard to go back to Sydney to live (esp when my wife doesn't want to go back).
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My friend was in an Alumni of his previous Uni, apparently a lot of people came back like you and never renewed. if it is for retirement then I would understand. they just let it expire without doing anything which some of them did.

But if it is still young I am thinking very wasteful. But per visa is AUD 410 per year renewal. assuming you have children and a spouse could go all the way up to thousands a year.

I am in my dilemma if I should renew it since my business expanded exponentially in the past 2 years. Like what will happen if i wanted to move again in maybe 10 years time when my kids grow up? Will it affect the application. since it was expired once.
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post Jun 11 2022, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(rg470 @ Jun 11 2022, 03:48 PM)
I believe it is $410 for 5 years mate. If you add your MY passport that is about $500 bucks per 5 years. On the long run the blue passport would be the way to go if you are eligible.
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I can only get 5 years renewal if I fulfilled the stay period of 2 years of the 5 years of the PR eligibility.

if i don't fulfill the 2 years stay, i can only get 1 year per renewal.

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