Hi all FX experts,

For PAMM accts, both fund manager and investors put in a lot of money so the fund manager has enough capital to earn for everyone.

What I don't get it is for those copy-trade system, the fund managers only has a few hundreds to a few thounsands as capital with no fund from investors.  It makes no sense to me for these fund managers who seems to have a super high rate of winning, would want to trade such small amount.

Is my understanding wrong ?

they earn commission based on every winning trade

Ignore my name for now as i am not trolling this time.

Being able to withdraw from a broker does not really tell you if the broker is reliable or not.
1. Your profit might be little and insignificant to the broker.
2. The broker puts you into their A book, which mean they will route your orders to the liquidity providers instead of trading against you.
3. There is a reason why they are set up in such a place and not in a more reliable regulatory regions like the UK, Australia or Singapore. They might be doing some shady things, non-transparent, and so on. They are also prepared to close their shops anytime and run away with your money... when they have had enough... BURP...

Why do you want to use these shady brokers when you have regulated and better brokers? Why? (not actually asking you a question)

Hi Jack,

We understand from Triumpfx first batch investors that the company claimed their money were hold by New Zealand government. So basically it's an excuse for them not to pay. Triumphfx also told their investors that the trades only appear on MT4 5 hours after the trades executed. Can you believe it?

After that, we found that Triumpfx has obtained a toilet paper license from Vanuatu and continue promoting by Gold Master. Anyone would like to continue the story?

when did triumphfx withold the money occurred?
Do you know the reason behind delayed posting of the trade?

Hi apathen,

We understand it's happened back in 2015.

The only reason is that they can create sure win trades (since they already know the market movement) to show investors how good they are.

i guess you mix up with another case of  thriump asia global that misused their name to scam ppl.

The delayed posting of the trade result actually is to prevent some cheapskate to follow trade since they provide view only login of their master account. I think if you want to be transparent yet don't want ppl to follow trade, that is next best alternative.

Hi Apathen,

So we assume that you are from Triumphfx. There is only one Triumphfx famously scammed many investors, clearly your "explaination" on delay trades are showing it's the one we are talking about.

Based on your explaination and excuse to prevent copy traders, so how do investors or anyone justify whether you are doing genuine trading? Do you have any liquidity provider statements to proof? Since you are doing STP, we are pretty sure all the trades should be sent to LP. Would you mind to show us your LP statements to prove us wrong?

Thank you.

i guess you mix up with another case of  thriump asia global that misused their name to scam ppl.

The delayed posting of the trade result actually is to prevent some cheapskate to follow trade since they provide view only login of their master account. I think if you want to be transparent yet don't want ppl to follow trade, that is next best alternative.

Hi Apathen,

So we assume that you are from Triumphfx. There is only one Triumphfx famously scammed many investors, clearly your "explaination" on delay trades are showing it's the one we are talking about.

Based on your explaination and excuse to prevent copy traders, so how do investors or anyone justify whether you are doing genuine trading? Do you have any liquidity provider statements to proof? Since you are doing STP, we are pretty sure all the trades should be sent to LP. Would you mind to show us your LP statements to prove us wrong?

Thank you.

wah how can small fry like me can be from triumphfx. no i don't have those thing you ask for. you can request directly from them.

after reading all the arguments around, i did my own analysis and test out myself, so i just told you what i know.

Actually it is not delay trades.... Hehe...

It is self created trades. I have proof but i wont show it publicly.

wah how can small fry like me can be from triumphfx. no i don't have those thing you ask for. you can request directly from them.

after reading all the arguments around, i did my own analysis and test out myself, so i just told you what i know.

Actually it is not delay trades.... Hehe...

It is self created trades. I have proof but i wont show it publicly.

yes i also have proof but dont want to show it publicly.

yes i also have proof but dont want to show it publicly.

Are you new to FX?

of course compare with you DrFX i'm newbie, just learn how to crawl.
so base on your sifu knowledge, what is the best way to maintain transparency yet prevent copy trade ?

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List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. LMAX
9. FXCM
10. Saxobank
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. HY Markets
15. ADS Securities
16. FXDD
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. eToro
31. Plus500
32. Pepperstone
33. Global Prime
34. FXTM
35.
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List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
28. IIB International Broker
29. PTFX
30. Sentratama Investor
31. HotForex
32. Xtrade
33. iiinvestments
34. Exia International Group
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In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC.

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.

Open the account to let everyone/ investors to view at least for 1 month and get someone to authenticate it.

of course compare with you DrFX i'm newbie, just learn how to crawl.
so base on your sifu knowledge, what is the best way to maintain transparency yet prevent copy trade ?

kbfx is not a scam lol