QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2016, 04:53 PM)
all indo mie Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam
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Mar 30 2016, 08:17 PM
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Mar 30 2016, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Mar 30 2016, 05:38 PM) Hmmm I thought their revenue and profits are declining thanks to Vapors and levies from govt? Vaps is not as convenient as cigarette.. The main impact is levies from government..Chart seems to be downtrending too. If your sole purpose is for the div in the long run, then can just buy now and collect more when the price is down. |
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Mar 31 2016, 10:08 AM
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Plantation really is beyond me...really rely purely on ANALyst reports to study
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Mar 31 2016, 10:26 AM
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Mar 31 2016, 10:27 AM
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Mar 31 2016, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2016, 10:08 AM) Why beyond you? Actually very easy only mah...For growth 1. Average palm oil age 2. Unplanted landbank For Income 1. FFB Yield (Ton FFB/ha) 2. OER (Oil Extraction rate) (% Oil recovered form each ton of FFB) 3. EV / ha planted That's it. And its really simple, plantation cost are more or less fixed, so every RM 100 up in oil price = additional RM 100 in profit per ton CPO produced. RHB Report Link. This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2016, 10:33 AM |
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Mar 31 2016, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2016, 10:30 AM) Why beyond you? Actually very easy only mah... Soybean priceFor growth 1. Average palm oil age 2. Unplanted landbank For Income 1. FFB Yield (Ton FFB/ha) 2. OER (Oil Extraction rate) (% Oil recovered form each ton of FFB) 3. EV / ha planted That's it. And its really simple, plantation cost are more or less fixed, so every RM 100 up in oil price = additional RM 100 in profit per ton CPO produced. RHB Report Link. MYR RSPO Palm oil tax Other regulations El nino China's slow down Need free lectures from master gark |
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Mar 31 2016, 10:55 AM
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I only know earnings growth and divvy yield
On a very basic level, I like UP (for divvy yield) and United Malacca (for potential) |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:03 AM
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Mar 31 2016, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2016, 10:55 AM) I only know earnings growth and divvy yield I like UP.. very good and professional company.. but the P/E.. On a very basic level, I like UP (for divvy yield) and United Malacca (for potential) UM.. is like kici miow plantation.. This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2016, 11:06 AM |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:18 AM
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Mar 31 2016, 11:21 AM
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Mar 31 2016, 11:24 AM
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Mar 31 2016, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2016, 11:24 AM) Ya meh.. I only saw they have peninsular and east MY plantation. http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/ptres/res35257.pdfHow many Ha in Indon, and location? Then I can give recommendation. http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/ptres/res35257.pdf http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/u...-boost-earnings |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2016, 11:26 AM) http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/ptres/res35257.pdf UM acquired 83% of PT Lifere Agro Kapuas (Central Kalimantan), for 66.4 Mil USD, EV/Ha = $4750 per ha, $8,000 per planted Ha. This moderate price, not cheap but not expensive.http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/ptres/res35257.pdf http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/u...-boost-earnings Total ha = 24,585 (17k plantable), with 10K already planted average age 3.5 years, 4 ha already mature. Another 1.5-2.5 years to full maturity. Not too bad, should be able to boost UMCC profits by 20%-30% in 1-2 years time and 40%-60% by 4-5 years when fully planted. But most of the future growth is already priced in as it's current PE is quite high... This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2016, 11:40 AM |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:44 AM
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sidetrack abit.
Does it mean those who bought PARKSON-CO will be crying on maturity date if they plan to convert to mother share? |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2016, 11:38 AM) UM acquired 83% of PT Lifere Agro Kapuas (Central Kalimantan), for 66.4 Mil USD, EV/Ha = $4750 per ha, $8,000 per planted Ha. This moderate price, not cheap but not expensive. So...no go again? Total ha = 24,585 (17k plantable), with 10K already planted average age 3.5 years, 4 ha already mature. Another 1.5-2.5 years to full maturity. Not too bad, should be able to boost UMCC profits by 20%-30% in 1-2 years time and 40%-60% by 4-5 years when fully planted. But most of the future growth is already priced in as it's current PE is quite high... UP lagi teruk la...P/E tahap dewa for Plantations sector, macam Nestle My Ta Ann need to trim a bit or add a bit, else will end up with odd lot when the Bonus Issue comes |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2016, 11:44 AM) So...no go again? Not to say no... currently is fairly valued, not undervalue.UP lagi teruk la...P/E tahap dewa for Plantations sector, macam Nestle My Ta Ann need to trim a bit or add a bit, else will end up with odd lot when the Bonus Issue comes But then again hor, not much plantation is undervalued. Maybe you want to analyze my old timer stock, CBIP.. huge unplanted lanbank in Indon (2018 only start fruiting.. This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2016, 11:49 AM |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2016, 11:44 AM) So...no go again? Ya.. that day I did not know one of my stock got BI, then suddenly i got odd lot of 25 shares. UP lagi teruk la...P/E tahap dewa for Plantations sector, macam Nestle My Ta Ann need to trim a bit or add a bit, else will end up with odd lot when the Bonus Issue comes |
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Mar 31 2016, 11:51 AM
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