QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Dec 31 2015, 03:27 PM)
Absorber using?Spring used how long?
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QUOTE(FLXM @ Dec 31 2015, 02:50 PM) titanrev, HWL I used last time is HiLo only not even bodyshift. 8K front 6K rear. If for street and once in a blue moon touge runs and got fetch people rear use 4K coz 6K will be bumpy. HWL is twin tube design so it has more comfort than monotube/inverted monotube type. Being that said I have used my HWL in track before in Sepang, Elite and MIMC respectively they perform quite ok given that it is only a HiLo. The rear shocks started to leak after 1 year both leak together. Due to it is not a bodyshift type adjustable the spring will unseat from it's spring cup or perch if the car is jacked up on jacks so at times after the car come back down from the jack and the 1st time you turn the steering there will be a loud TUK sound. That's the spring sound it seated back to it's proper place. Also the HWL is a long stroke absorber. Due to the spring unseating issues I DIY a solution to this. I install a pair of helper springs to keep the spring at the preloaded state so that it won't get unseated when the car is up in the air. With this setup I lost some height adjustment I can't go lower than 2 finger gap at the front. i have read any review of hwl adjustable suspension for saga flx. Care to share your thoughts on HWL and also FTune Racing? Fast forward, I'm now using Ftuned which is a totally different system from HWL so to compare it to Ftuned is kinda like comparing a normal apple to a fuji apple. The front are inverted monotube rear monotube. HiLo Soft/Hard with bodyshift. Inverted monotube has greater ability to take side load compare to monotube and twin tube. and it reduces the unsprung weight of the car. It has bigger pistons and will withstand higher temperature. Of coz with such a setup comfort was not really in the picture couple that to a pillowball mount I would safely say comfort is thrown out to the sea. Performance wise it is much much better as it is tuned for race competition use. As with inverted monotube the soft hard adjustment is at the bottom so it took me a while to get used to the direction of the damping. The rear are monotube design, damping adjustment on the top. I'm now running 8K front 5.5K rear. FTuned has different range for different use so for the normal and occasional spirited drive just get the Road-touge, or road-track is fine. Race-Comp is top of the line. The difference between the 3 although the construction are the same is the valves and shims inside are setup differently. I was very happy and proud that Farouk himself was willing enough to show me how these valves and shims changes the characteristic of the damping. They also have non inverted monotube range If you are really interested with FTuned give Farouk a call or make an appointment to visit his shop, He's a really nice guy guaranteed. The after sales service was very good and personal. Quality of the suspension system is also very top notch. Good things are meant to be shared. This post has been edited by TitanRev: Dec 31 2015, 06:41 PM |
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 31 2015, 06:30 PM) HWL I used last time is HiLo only not even bodyshift. 8K front 6K rear. If for street and once in a blue moon touge runs and got fetch people rear use 4K coz 6K will be bumpy. HWL is twin tube design so it has more comfort than monotube/inverted monotube type. Being that said I have used my HWL in track before in Sepang, Elite and MIMC respectively they perform quite ok given that it is only a HiLo. The rear shocks started to leak after 1 year both leak together. Due to it is not a bodyshift type adjustable the spring will unseat from it's spring cup or perch if the car is jacked up on jacks so at times after the car come back down from the jack and the 1st time you turn the steering there will be a loud TUK sound. That's the spring sound it seated back to it's proper place. Also the HWL is a long stroke absorber. Due to the spring unseating issues I DIY a solution to this. I install a pair of helper springs to keep the spring at the preloaded state so that it won't get unseated when the car is up in the air. With this setup I lost some height adjustment I can't go lower than 2 finger gap at the front. Wow. Thank you for great long valuable write up. Fast forward, I'm now using Ftuned which is a totally different system from HWL so to compare it to Ftuned is kinda like comparing a normal apple to a fuji apple. The front are inverted monotube rear monotube. HiLo Soft/Hard with bodyshift. Inverted monotube has greater ability to take side load compare to monotube and twin tube. and it reduces the unsprung weight of the car. It has bigger pistons and will withstand higher temperature. Of coz with such a setup comfort was not really in the picture couple that to a pillowball mount I would safely say comfort is thrown out to the sea. Performance wise it is much much better as it is tuned for race competition use. As with inverted monotube the soft hard adjustment is at the bottom so it took me a while to get used to the direction of the damping. The rear are monotube design, damping adjustment on the top. I'm now running 8K front 5.5K rear. FTuned has different range for different use so for the normal and occasional spirited drive just get the Road-touge, or road-track is fine. Race-Comp is top of the line. The difference between the 3 although the construction are the same is the valves and shims inside are setup differently. I was very happy and proud that Farouk himself was willing enough to show me how these valves and shims changes the characteristic of the damping. They also have non inverted monotube range If you are really interested with FTuned give Farouk a call or make an appointment to visit his shop, He's a really nice guy guaranteed. The after sales service was very good and personal. Quality of the suspension system is also very top notch. Good things are meant to be shared. Yeah. I heard Farouk do wonders in setting up the end result for the suspension. Having said that I had experience myself of using hwl in Toyota Avanza. About similar setup as Saga of which the usage of spring perch. I did asked Wong at hwl kg Baru sg buluh to do some setup for Avanza for fine tuning the valves for the front absorber as I have slam the car to the lowest possible position with 17" 205x40 tires. Nonetheless, the ride is still comfy. (Comfy is subjective matters.... According to my old butt... ) I do trust that Ftune can do the same fine tuning job. When I m back in KL working .... I ll visit Ftune. This post has been edited by FLXM: Dec 31 2015, 08:31 PM |
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 31 2015, 06:30 PM) HWL I used last time is HiLo only not even bodyshift. 8K front 6K rear. If for street and once in a blue moon touge runs and got fetch people rear use 4K coz 6K will be bumpy. HWL is twin tube design so it has more comfort than monotube/inverted monotube type. Being that said I have used my HWL in track before in Sepang, Elite and MIMC respectively they perform quite ok given that it is only a HiLo. The rear shocks started to leak after 1 year both leak together. Due to it is not a bodyshift type adjustable the spring will unseat from it's spring cup or perch if the car is jacked up on jacks so at times after the car come back down from the jack and the 1st time you turn the steering there will be a loud TUK sound. That's the spring sound it seated back to it's proper place. Also the HWL is a long stroke absorber. Due to the spring unseating issues I DIY a solution to this. I install a pair of helper springs to keep the spring at the preloaded state so that it won't get unseated when the car is up in the air. With this setup I lost some height adjustment I can't go lower than 2 finger gap at the front. personal... hmmmmmmmmmmm... Fast forward, I'm now using Ftuned which is a totally different system from HWL so to compare it to Ftuned is kinda like comparing a normal apple to a fuji apple. The front are inverted monotube rear monotube. HiLo Soft/Hard with bodyshift. Inverted monotube has greater ability to take side load compare to monotube and twin tube. and it reduces the unsprung weight of the car. It has bigger pistons and will withstand higher temperature. Of coz with such a setup comfort was not really in the picture couple that to a pillowball mount I would safely say comfort is thrown out to the sea. Performance wise it is much much better as it is tuned for race competition use. As with inverted monotube the soft hard adjustment is at the bottom so it took me a while to get used to the direction of the damping. The rear are monotube design, damping adjustment on the top. I'm now running 8K front 5.5K rear. FTuned has different range for different use so for the normal and occasional spirited drive just get the Road-touge, or road-track is fine. Race-Comp is top of the line. The difference between the 3 although the construction are the same is the valves and shims inside are setup differently. I was very happy and proud that Farouk himself was willing enough to show me how these valves and shims changes the characteristic of the damping. They also have non inverted monotube range If you are really interested with FTuned give Farouk a call or make an appointment to visit his shop, He's a really nice guy guaranteed. The after sales service was very good and personal. Quality of the suspension system is also very top notch. Good things are meant to be shared. |
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Dec 30 2015, 10:45 PM) I read what you wrote in your blog. You mentioned that the Skippy was in the blind spot caused by the big "A" pillar. This reminds me that I almost got into accident twice because the other vehicle was in the blind spot of driver side "A" pillar. Thanks for looking, Yes I've noticed plenty of incidents on dash cam video that can be put down to A pillar blind spot, as well as having myself spooked enough to move my head about when wary of trouble. Years ago it wasn't an issue, but life was simpler then, if you had a crash you died. |
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