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post Aug 4 2007, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(huix @ Aug 3 2007, 05:35 PM)
a few of my friends worked in UK but later come back to Msia. My ex GF worked there and now working in Dubai (same salary in UK but no tax and +1k pounds for accomodation + transport)...

One of my friend said, the UK government is trying their best to tax you and London living expenses is too high to live and not much disposable income left... but he is happy when he watched the football match live.
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Your ex-gf so smart ar ? What is she doing in UK and Dubai ?
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post Sep 30 2007, 08:33 PM

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Guys, I will be offered a job to work in London briefly. My employer will get his lawyer to process the work permit application. However I would like to know...

(i) how long does it take for my employer to get me a work permit?
(ii) If they offered me a job, and I signed the offer letter before my employer gets the work permit approved and later found out that the work permit application is rejected. What's worse if I tender my resignation, how will this be?


Added on October 1, 2007, 11:55 pm

I've just got the offer and will accept it officially tomorrow to allow my future employer to proceed to hire professional service to apply for a work permit for me.

I'm still worried now cause the offer is not offcially valid until I got my work permit. But the manager said that since I hold a UK degree, since they advertised for many weeks and still could not find a proper candidate, and my job is of high demand in UK, they said the application should be quite easy.

Anyone has gone through the whole work permit application before?

Simon

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post Oct 30 2007, 08:57 PM

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after reading from page 1 to 5, i've realised most people prefer to come back to msia to work after they grad from uk.

as for me, i came back last month and still thinking whether should i head back to uk and find a permanent job!! (regretted that i didn't put more effort into finding a job after i grad)

it's really frustrating knowing the Brits prefer EU citizens instead of Asians. at least, they give them priority rather than us.

so, i was thinking... should i or should i not head back?! or just stay back in msia and find a job here instead??

thanks smile.gif

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post Oct 30 2007, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(triangle-sun @ Oct 30 2007, 08:57 PM)
after reading from page 1 to 5, i've realised most people prefer to come back to msia to work after they grad from uk.

as for me, i came back last month and still thinking whether should i head back to uk and find a permanent job!! (regretted that i didn't put more effort into finding a job after i grad)

it's really frustrating knowing the Brits prefer EU citizens instead of Asians. at least, they give them priority rather than us.

so, i was thinking... should i or should i not head back?! or just stay back in msia and find a job here instead??

thanks smile.gif
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What job do you have in mind?

I don't see the harm of trying to find a job in the UK, why not go for it?

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post Oct 30 2007, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 30 2007, 09:02 PM)
What job do you have in mind?

I don't see the harm of trying to find a job in the UK, why not go for it?
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i'm a logistics Bsc grad in uk. i understand that this isn't a specialized job and it will be a risk to take to go all the way to uk and find a job there.

visa for a year will cost about RM1440 + plane ticket etc etc.. if i can't get a permanent job there i'm screwed (it'll be wasting a year worth of time). but maybe like u say, it's worth a try?

i've also tried using those uk agencies to hunt for jobs and they are usually reliable. but the thing is, i got rejected twice (even got an interview with BAT for the 1st round only and got rejected after that. pretty sad)!! so i can sort of see how slim my chances are. sad.gif

i seriously have no confident and i'm also quite dependant but based on my parent's point of view, when i have this sort of chance i should grab it and just go for it. MOST of the people do not get chances like this!!

but it's always a dilemma of myself not getting a job there icon_question.gif
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post Oct 30 2007, 11:29 PM

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of cos try ur very best to find experience and work in UK .... if all fails then your final resort would be to come back to msia or u could try aussie, sg or others etc ......
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QUOTE(triangle-sun @ Oct 30 2007, 09:17 PM)
i'm a logistics Bsc grad in uk. i understand that this isn't a specialized job and it will be a risk to take to go all the way to uk and find a job there.

visa for a year will cost about RM1440 + plane ticket etc etc.. if i can't get a permanent job there i'm screwed (it'll be wasting a year worth of time). but maybe like u say, it's worth a try?

i've also tried using those uk agencies to hunt for jobs and they are usually reliable. but the thing is, i got rejected twice (even got an interview with BAT for the 1st round only and got rejected after that. pretty sad)!! so i can sort of see how slim my chances are. sad.gif

i seriously have no confident and i'm also quite dependant but based on my parent's point of view, when i have this sort of chance i should grab it and just go for it. MOST of the people do not get chances like this!!

but it's always a dilemma of myself not getting a job there icon_question.gif
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I would still say go for it.

I think you are eligible to apply for this itnernational graduate scheme ya?

By all means, take the chance and have no regrets. Even if you are able to work only for a year, I'm sure that experience would be valuable when you come back to Malaysia.

I have seen examples where people started with SEGS (international scheme equivalent) and the company applied for a work permit for them later. I am one of these people.

Also, hopefully this would encourage you. I have attended quite a few interviews with lots of rejections but I was able to secure two offers from reputable companies. It's really about interview experience where at some point, you can prepare well enough to cover the whole process.

Really, try your best. There are websites like milkround/propsects which provide a lot of oppurtunities.

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post Oct 31 2007, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Oct 31 2007, 01:42 AM)
I would still say go for it. 

I think you are eligible to apply for this itnernational graduate scheme ya? 

By all means, take the chance and have no regrets.  Even if you are able to work only for a year, I'm sure that experience would be valuable when you come back to Malaysia.

I have seen examples where people started with SEGS (international scheme equivalent) and the company applied for a work permit for them later.  I am one of these people. 

Also, hopefully this would encourage you.  I have attended quite a few interviews with lots of rejections but I was able to secure two offers from reputable companies.  It's really about interview experience where at some point, you can prepare well enough to cover the whole process. 

Really, try your best.  There are websites like milkround/propsects which provide a lot of oppurtunities.
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yup!! i'll be applying for IGS.
well, i guess it all depends on my determination and how independent i am.

just a little worried bout me being unemployed for an entire year *touchwood*. but really, i have to take into account what am i going to do if there isn't a job opportunity for me.

it is indeed a high risk to take.
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post Nov 1 2007, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(triangle-sun @ Oct 31 2007, 02:51 PM)
yup!! i'll be applying for IGS.
well, i guess it all depends on my determination and how independent i am.

just a little worried bout me being unemployed for an entire year *touchwood*. but really, i have to take into account what am i going to do if there isn't a job opportunity for me.

it is indeed a high risk to take.
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I'd like to advise you to do a lil' reseach on the available jobs, usual job requirements, average salary, et cetera before you go into the UK.

I recommend you to use this job searching site http://www.i-resign.com/uk/jobseekers/ which helped me to secure my job in UK.

Besides, it's nice to sign-up to http://www.monster.co.uk (similar site to jobsBD, jobStreet) which a few employment consultants viewed my CV and contacted me.

All the best to you! icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 1 2007, 09:24 PM

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May I know how long it takes to get IGS and the amount to fork out?

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post Nov 1 2007, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(clausman @ Nov 1 2007, 09:24 PM)
May I know how long it takes to get IGS and the amount to fork out?
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RM1440 if u apply in msia and lasts for a year and takes about 5 days to process or even faster depending.
600Pounds if u apply in uk and will be done on that day if i remember correctly.

u'll have to apply within 12 months the moment u graduated in the uk.

for more information, i reckon u should call up smile.gif

QUOTE(simon_wks @ Nov 1 2007, 08:15 PM)
I'd like to advise you to do a lil' reseach on the available jobs, usual job requirements, average salary, et cetera before you go into the UK.

I recommend you to use this job searching site http://www.i-resign.com/uk/jobseekers/ which helped me to secure my job in UK.

Besides, it's nice to sign-up to http://www.monster.co.uk (similar site to jobsBD, jobStreet) which a few employment consultants viewed my CV and contacted me.

All the best to you!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks heaps for the information.
might just end up in uk afterall tongue.gif

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post Nov 1 2007, 10:44 PM

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let say i am not UK grad but eligible for high skilled migration, should i contact agents instead?
any contacts that i can get?

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Would someone from the UK confirm if the taxation braket is true? I mean if you salary per annum is higher than 34,600 pounds, you will be tax on the 40% bracket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom.

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post Feb 13 2008, 05:54 PM

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hmmm i really dun understand y peeople keep saying its hard to get a job in UK...my fren went there, applied for a few jobs, within 2 weeks oredi got hired by HSBC UK......she sez IT field dem lotsa positions leh.....are u guys looking at the wrong place when finding a job? (But she was there laa when she applied for the jobs, btw contract jobs are paying much much higher than permanent jobs....)
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QUOTE(gtghost @ Feb 13 2008, 09:46 AM)
Would someone from the UK confirm if the taxation braket is true? I mean if you salary per annum is higher than 34,600 pounds, you will be tax on the 40% bracket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom.
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Yes, that is right. Although the brackets shift annually with inflation, but not by much. Come April 6th, the 10% bracket will be removed and taxation will just start from 20% till the higher 40% rate.

On top of that, there's also National insurance and Council tax to fork out. UK government has also recently announced an increase in council tax (depending where you live, for example London will be just under 2%). Energy prices has also increased over the new year, with various providers announcing 7-15% hikes.

It is a depressing time to be earning pounds with GBP exchange rates and UK interest rates dropping. sad.gif
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QUOTE(fonatic @ Feb 13 2008, 05:55 PM)
Yes, that is right.  Although the brackets shift annually with inflation, but not by much.  Come April 6th, the 10% bracket will be removed and taxation will just start from 20% till the higher 40% rate.

On top of that, there's also National insurance and Council tax to fork out.  UK government has also recently announced an increase in council tax (depending where you live, for example London will be just under 2%).  Energy prices has also increased over the new year, with various providers announcing 7-15% hikes.

It is a depressing time to be earning pounds with GBP exchange rates and UK interest rates dropping.  sad.gif
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hmm...so much so how much taxes n etc one gotto pay from their salary? Whats the nett salary after all deductions? Dun sound very good working in UK at all...unless illegally...
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 13 2008, 11:05 AM)
hmm...so much so how much taxes n etc one gotto pay from their salary? Whats the nett salary after all deductions? Dun sound very good working in UK at all...unless illegally...
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Well it's not all that bad working in UK, if you're thrifty you can afford to safe a fair amount even though you're slapped with taxes left, right and centre. Oh, I missed out the 17.5% VAT in UK.

But to answer your question, a Graduate trainee in Accountancy for example; will earn approximately a gross salary of 22k p.a. The net salary after income tax and national insurance would be just shy of 1.4k per month.
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QUOTE(fonatic @ Feb 13 2008, 06:40 PM)
Well it's not all that bad working in UK, if you're thrifty you can afford to safe a fair amount even though you're slapped with taxes left, right and centre.  Oh, I missed out the 17.5% VAT in UK.

But to answer your question, a Graduate trainee in Accountancy for example; will earn approximately a gross salary of 22k p.a.  The net salary after income tax and national insurance would be just shy of 1.4k per month.
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wahhh......lets see, if include makan n rental and transport...left around 400pounds or less?? Hmmm singapore sounds so much better and nearer lehh...
btw...is that good money?? dun sound appealing to me at all sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 13 2008, 11:53 AM)
wahhh......lets see, if include makan n rental and transport...left around 400pounds or less?? Hmmm singapore sounds so much better and nearer lehh...
btw...is that good money?? dun sound appealing to me at all  sweat.gif
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I would think 400 would be a fair estimate. I guess if you saved that much a month, that's already more than what most freshies would earn a month in Malaysia. Also, the experience of working in a different culture can be beneficial too. Yeah, living in UK maybe far from family and friends in Malaysia, but the Malaysian community in London is massive and always a house party/drinking/clubbing going on.

I am glad I have moved to Switzerland since January, more benefits and no major bills to pay once I get my salary. thumbup.gif Downside is I can't speak German "yet" and it can prove troublesome at times.
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QUOTE(fonatic @ Feb 13 2008, 08:29 PM)
I would think 400 would be a fair estimate.  I guess if you saved that much a month, that's already more than what most freshies would earn a month in Malaysia.  Also, the experience of working in a different culture can be beneficial too.  Yeah, living in UK maybe far from family and friends in Malaysia, but the Malaysian community in London is massive and always a house party/drinking/clubbing going on.

I am glad I have moved to Switzerland since January, more benefits and no major bills to pay once I get my salary.  thumbup.gif  Downside is I can't speak German "yet" and it can prove troublesome at times.
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So what do you do in Switzerland? icon_question.gif

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