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post Apr 3 2007, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(Dr. Miranda Bailey @ Apr 3 2007, 03:10 AM)
I dont think they will let u work in UK. There are new rules, they give priorities juz to the EU people to work. Non-EU people usually needs visa and contract. Once the contract has finished, u will be sent home.
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Yes, they have rather strict rules when it comes to such things. You will have to demonstrate the reason why you employed the non EU applicant and not the EU applicant.

If you are granted a 5 years work permit, you can apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain (PR) after the 5th year.

Alternatively, you can chose to extend your working permit.


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post Apr 3 2007, 03:49 AM

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hello ,

had any of u all worked in new zealand as fruit-picker b4 ?

pls share yo experience .............
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post Apr 3 2007, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(kvkk @ Apr 3 2007, 03:49 AM)
hello ,

had any of u all worked in new zealand as fruit-picker b4 ?

pls share yo experience .............
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You got offer there ? I heard the salaery is quite good. ranging rom RM4k to 8k biggrin.gif
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post Apr 3 2007, 08:24 AM

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Working professionally in UK is possible but you have to have a good British degree, at least 2nd upper. Unlike Malaysia, you will be given more consideration if you have PhD or master degree. A fresh PhD engineer can earn as much as GBP 30k (about RM200k) annually. If you are a PhD student and your supervisor is famous enough to recommend you to the related industry, your chance to get the job is very much higher.

It will be pointless to work 'non-professional' job in London because the living cost will eventually consume most of your pay, unless you are a tight saving person who always stay at home and able to endure no entertainment.

It also depends on luck. Some of my UK friends got their job before they even graduate their PhD but some have tried their luck more than 1 year after their graduation. I mean the professional engineering job here. For non-professional job, not a worry, part-time are plentiful but not always pleasant.

Good luck then. Hope that helps.

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post Apr 3 2007, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(freshyyf @ Apr 3 2007, 08:24 AM)
Working professionally in UK is possible but you have to have a good British degree, at least 2nd upper. Unlike Malaysia, you will be given more consideration if you have PhD or master degree. A fresh PhD engineer can earn as much as GBP 30k (about RM200k) annually. If you are a PhD student and your supervisor is famous enough to recommend you to the related industry, your chance to get the job is very much higher.

It will be pointless to work 'non-professional' job in London because the living cost will eventually consume most of your pay, unless you are a tight saving person who always stay at home and able to endure no entertainment.

It also depends on luck. Some of my UK friends got their job before they even graduate their PhD but some have tried their luck more than 1 year after their graduation. I mean the professional engineering job here. For non-professional job, not a worry, part-time are plentiful but not always pleasant.

Good luck then. Hope that helps.
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Some people like to convert the pound back to malaysian ringgit and claim how attractive it is. But what's the point of converting when your expenses are in pounds as well.


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post Apr 3 2007, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(PowerDunk @ Apr 3 2007, 11:59 AM)
Some people like to convert  the pound back to malaysian ringgit and claim how attractive it is. But what's the point of converting when your expenses are in pounds as well.
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you earn pounds and spend pounds in uk.. you can save some money.. unless you are those spend a lot.. if not.. one month you can at least save few hundred pounds.. cos groceries in uk is kinda cheap.. just that rental and transport are expensive... and if you eating outside all the time.. forget about save money..

i spend around 10-15 pounds on my food every week.. i think in malaysia you cant survive with only rm10-15 on food for one week..

just my 2 cent.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 3 2007, 05:23 PM

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10-15 pounds every week only?? Oh My God! I have to learn cooking... i am so stupid I spent like 50 pounds for food only... errgghh!! smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
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QUOTE(gniliap @ Apr 3 2007, 05:10 PM)
i spend around 10-15 pounds on my food every week.. i think in malaysia you cant survive with only rm10-15 on food for one week.. 
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I think you need to live and enjoy life a bit more biggrin.gif

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post Apr 4 2007, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 4 2007, 05:28 AM)
I think you need to live and enjoy life a bit more biggrin.gif
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i do enjoy my life here.. i share food with my another 4 frens actually.. every night we have at least 3 dishes for our dinner.. sometimes we have dessert and stuff... rolleyes.gif

seriously cooking at home can save alot.. if you eat outside, one meal at least costs you 3-5pounds.. and if you work part time here during your study.. you can cover your living expenses.. their basic pay for part time job now is 5.35pounds.. brows.gif
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I spend most of my money on fruits. Lolz. Yes transportation is very expensive. Btw Geminist I don't spend the same amount of time people spend here to get a job back in Malaysia. I've already gotten offers from Malaysia before my return. As for here, been attending UK Career and Education fair and organizations have stated clearly they will not apply work permits for non EU or non Brits. It depends on the type of positions you want and what they can offer to non EU or non Brits. Its difficult but I never said that its impossible however I'd rather be building a career back in my own country before thinking about overseas. I've had working experience here with part time jobs and I don't think that its all that great here. Just a personal opinion. I know it isn't based on your qualifications but qualifications does play a major role in whether you are worth their investment on you or not.
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How much more difficult (or easy) is it to get work in the UK compared to the US?

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post Apr 4 2007, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Dr. Miranda Bailey @ Apr 3 2007, 10:23 AM)
10-15 pounds every week only?? Oh My God! I have to learn cooking... i am so stupid I spent like 50 pounds for food only... errgghh!! smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
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You lot spend too much. Someone I know spends around 1 a week on dinner...
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QUOTE(PowerDunk @ Apr 3 2007, 10:59 AM)
Some people like to convert  the pound back to malaysian ringgit and claim how attractive it is. But what's the point of converting when your expenses are in pounds as well.
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Quite true too.. but nasi goreng in malaysia = rm3, fried rice here = 3. typical entry job in malaysia maybe ard 1/2k and for uk = 1k/2k.

sounds the same right.

but there are some difference in some item. malaysia new savvy = 50k, uk vauxhall
corsa = 7000. malaysia ipod 30gb = 1.4k+- (not sure), uk ipod 30gb = 200

you earn quite the same, the expenses for food and living is quite the same, but some item is just more worth it if you earn and buy it here.

QUOTE(elb @ Apr 4 2007, 06:38 PM)
You lot spend too much. Someone I know spends around 1 a week on dinner...
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1 for whole week? or 1 per dinner? eat bread every dinner then!

I spend abt 2 per dinner sometime. Tapao chinese takeaway food 3.70, divide into two portion, boil rice at home myself = 2 meals hence abt 2 per meal. nod.gif else just abt 10-50 for grocery too.

It depends on what you study to get a job. I managed to secure a job before graduation, so pretty good for me.

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post Apr 4 2007, 07:22 PM

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One way is to apply to UK company that has a branch in Malaysia. That's what I did, I applied for a job with a company based in the UK (Oil and Gas company) and I'm going to be based in Gatwick, London.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Apr 4 2007, 12:07 PM)
Quite true too.. but nasi goreng in malaysia = rm3, fried rice here = 3. typical entry job in malaysia maybe ard 1/2k and for uk = 1k/2k.

sounds the same right.

but there are some difference in some item. malaysia new savvy = 50k, uk vauxhall
corsa = 7000. malaysia ipod 30gb = 1.4k+- (not sure), uk ipod 30gb = 200

you earn quite the same, the expenses for food and living is quite the same, but some item is just more worth it if you earn and buy it here.
1 for whole week? or 1 per dinner? eat bread every dinner then!

I spend abt 2 per dinner sometime. Tapao chinese takeaway food 3.70, divide into two portion, boil rice at home myself = 2 meals hence abt 2 per meal.  nod.gif else just abt 10-50 for grocery too.

It depends on what you study to get a job. I managed to secure a job before graduation, so pretty good for me.
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Oh, for the whole week. Okay maybe not 1, more like 2. And no, that person has a very well paid job.
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post Apr 4 2007, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(elb @ Apr 4 2007, 06:38 PM)
You lot spend too much. Someone I know spends around 1 a week on dinner...
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Not too hard, just eat instant noodle and plain bread. You can achieve the same even in Malaysia.
However if you have to go such extremes to save money then what's the point of workign there?

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post Apr 4 2007, 11:27 PM

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I used to studied in Hertfordshire,UK. I manage to use 10 pound for a week. eat and cook @ home. Save alot. As for working, you chances to get a permenant job is quite hard as for IT Grad. for engineering, then is diff case. If you study civil engineering, then ur chance will be higher since they going to host olympic, they need alot of engineers there.

As for part time job, the pay is quite good. for example, my friend worked in Tesco during holiday, they paid 7 pound per hour. but work like the bangla here. hahahah.
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QUOTE(AsiaPartTime @ Apr 4 2007, 11:27 PM)
I used to studied in Hertfordshire,UK. I manage to use 10 pound for a week. eat and cook @ home. Save alot. As for working, you chances to get a permenant job is quite hard as for IT Grad. for engineering, then is diff case. If you study civil engineering, then ur chance will be higher since they going to host olympic, they need alot of engineers there.

As for part time job, the pay is quite good. for example, my friend worked in Tesco during holiday, they paid 7 pound per hour. but work like the bangla here. hahahah.
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10pounds per week including rental ? shocking.gif
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post Apr 4 2007, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(AsiaPartTime @ Apr 4 2007, 11:27 PM)
I used to studied in Hertfordshire,UK. I manage to use 10 pound for a week. eat and cook @ home. Save alot. As for working, you chances to get a permenant job is quite hard as for IT Grad. for engineering, then is diff case. If you study civil engineering, then ur chance will be higher since they going to host olympic, they need alot of engineers there.

As for part time job, the pay is quite good. for example, my friend worked in Tesco during holiday, they paid 7 pound per hour. but work like the bangla here. hahahah.
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you studied in Hertfordshire? which campus?
I studied there too...
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post Apr 5 2007, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(PowerDunk @ Apr 4 2007, 03:39 PM)
Not too hard, just eat instant noodle and plain bread. You can achieve the same even in Malaysia.
  However if you have to go such extremes to save money then what's the point of workign there?
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Beats me. That person earns somewhere around 50k, and yet chooses to eat chicken nuggets for dinner everyday.

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