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post Feb 15 2008, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(simon_wks @ Feb 14 2008, 11:44 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, one of the pre-requsites for a UK employer to employ you with a UK work permit is that you are a UK degree holder.

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Hmm..okes lets make this clear....not only my frens, but me also got offered and i also local grad (although degree from UK....but still local grad coz 3+0 program, so considered local rite?? NOt sure about this) so....it really depends on wat skill ler u have. So to those local grads..dun lose hOPE!!! rclxms.gif Make sure u are goin into the correct field if u wanna work in UK.

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 15 2008, 01:44 AM)
Hmm..okes lets make this clear....not only my frens, but me also got offered and i also local grad (although degree from UK....but still local grad coz 3+0 program, so considered local rite?? NOt sure about this) so....it really depends on wat skill ler u have. So to those local grads..dun lose hOPE!!!  rclxms.gif Make sure u are goin into the correct field if u wanna work in UK.
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Where you post your resume???
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QUOTE(simon_wks @ Feb 14 2008, 11:44 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, one of the pre-requsites for a UK employer to employ you with a UK work permit is that you are a UK degree holder.

The whole process of getting a work permit is a nightmare, it took me around 2 months to get it then still you are required to apply for UK entry clearance and stuff.

For those who just want to know how much (net) you will get for each month/year, just go to www.i-resign.com and use the tax calculator.

It's not bad working in UK, I think it's not always about money. At least it's not my motivation to work in the UK.

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Added on February 14, 2008, 11:51 pm

It's true... However, with £3.80 I can even cook myself a salmon steak with side salad and a glass of diet coke all under 15 minutes too...
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my work permit application took 2 weeks and straight forward though. tongue.gif

this is another simple tax calculator site: http://www.listentotaxman.com/ just key in the numbers,


QUOTE(fonatic @ Feb 15 2008, 12:35 AM)
It is true that as a fresh graduate, it will be difficult to get a job if you did not graduate from the UK.  But if you have fall under the definition of the Highly Skilled Migrant Program, it is fairly straight forward to get a work permit I think.  Below is an excerpt of an article on the Star a year ago:

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...=nation&focus=1
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the thing with Highly skilled migrant program (HSMP), you will need to score above 75 points in its criteria and it ain't that easy, unless you hold an UK degree (Master preferably), young and have already earn at least £25k perannum in the previous year.
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:00 AM)
Where you post your resume???
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online biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 15 2008, 06:35 AM)
my work permit application took 2 weeks and straight forward though.  tongue.gif

this is another simple tax calculator site: http://www.listentotaxman.com/ just key in the numbers,
the thing with Highly skilled migrant program (HSMP), you will need to score above 75 points in its criteria and it ain't that easy, unless you hold an UK degree (Master preferably), young and have already earn at least £25k perannum in the previous year.
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i actually did try this online to check if i am eligible.....failedddd bigtime!! hahaha....but then again, they sent few letters asking to go for interview instead, because eventho if u failed the test.....there are exceptions and can tryout for the interview session pulak where they understand your case further. hmm.gif

P.s: Dun ask me hows the interview and all...i didnt go for it. But i think even if u failed the initial part, u can still tryout for the interview part where they can actually try to know your strong points further.

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post Feb 15 2008, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 15 2008, 12:24 PM)
online  biggrin.gif
Ya... but do you have specified website. I try Gumtree, but no luck!
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Engineering got hope? hehehe
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 15 2008, 12:24 PM)
online  biggrin.gif


Added on February 15, 2008, 12:31 pm

i actually did try this online to check if i am eligible.....failedddd bigtime!! hahaha....but then again, they sent few letters asking to go for interview instead, because eventho if u failed the test.....there are exceptions and can tryout for the interview session pulak where they understand your case further.  hmm.gif

P.s: Dun ask me hows the interview and all...i didnt go for it. But i think even if u failed the initial part, u can still tryout for the interview part where they can actually try to know your strong points further.
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interview for HSMP? got such thing? i thought either you have the points or try next time/leave it?

QUOTE(Felice821 @ Feb 15 2008, 01:38 PM)
Ya... but do you have specified website. I try Gumtree, but no luck!
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use local recruitment agent. most are free, sign-up, register, fill in the c.v. and let them find job and email you of any updates. but usually those are for professional jobs.

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Engineering got hope? hehehe
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 15 2008, 03:56 PM)
interview for HSMP? got such thing? i thought either you have the points or try next time/leave it?
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Thats wat i tot so too after i failed the points entry when i did it online...but few days later, they sent me few letters asking me to do an interview instead.

Below is partial sample of the letter;

"This email serves as a reminder of the steps that you should complete in order to start your migration process to the UK. You should know all of the migration options you could use to migrate to the UK, and what you can use to increase your chances of successfully applying for an HSMP visa. Our registered UK Migration Consultants are standing by to create your ProspectiveMigration Service. HOW WILL THE PROSPECTIVE MIGRATION SERVICE HELP YOU? Our team of registered Migration Consultants has designed this service to assist clients who have failed our UK Visa Eligibility Assessment. Equivalent to a thorough face-to-faceconsultation with a registered Migration Consultant, this service includes an evaluation of your current profile in accordance with current UK migration regulations, and advice onhow to improve your chances of migrating to the UK."


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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Feb 15 2008, 01:38 PM)
Ya... but do you have specified website. I try Gumtree, but no luck!
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hieezzz how can u only try 1 webbie biggrin.gif Flood the jobs webbie with your resume dear icon_rolleyes.gif Good Luck thumbup.gif
and btw.....u gotto write a good resume with ample experience ....else they wont look at it. Talk in details about the tools and experience u have in your area of specialization. Dun bullshit tho.

And like yongkies said...most are for professional jobs.

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As i saw from the UK work permit website, seems to be medical line is in shortage list. I dont hold any medical cert... just ask on behalf.

My fren he got no mediical cert as well... but he is St' John captain few years back. Wondering if with the recommendation letter, what he can do?
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 15 2008, 04:48 PM)
Thats wat i tot so too after i failed the points entry when i did it online...but few days later, they sent me few letters asking me to do an interview instead.

Below is partial sample of the letter;

"This email serves as a reminder of the steps that you should complete in order to start your migration process to the UK. You should know all of the migration options you could use to migrate to the UK, and what you can use to increase your chances of successfully applying for an HSMP visa. Our registered UK Migration Consultants are standing by to create your ProspectiveMigration Service. HOW WILL THE PROSPECTIVE MIGRATION SERVICE HELP YOU? Our team of registered Migration Consultants has designed this service to assist clients who have failed our UK Visa Eligibility Assessment. Equivalent to a thorough face-to-faceconsultation with a registered Migration Consultant, this service includes an evaluation of your current profile in accordance with current UK migration regulations, and advice onhow to improve your chances of migrating to the UK."


Added on February 15, 2008, 4:52 pm

hieezzz how can u only try 1 webbie biggrin.gif Flood the jobs webbie with your resume dear  icon_rolleyes.gif Good Luck  thumbup.gif
and btw.....u gotto write a good resume with ample experience ....else they wont look at it. Talk in details about the tools and experience u have in your area of specialization. Dun bullshit tho.

And like yongkies said...most are for professional jobs.
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aha! that is not about HSMP anymore. it is like some agent/consultant, trying to find a way to get you in besides HSMP.

QUOTE(Felice821 @ Feb 15 2008, 06:58 PM)
As i saw from the UK work permit website, seems to be medical line is in shortage list. I dont hold any medical cert... just ask on behalf.

My fren he got no mediical cert as well... but he is St' John captain few years back. Wondering if with the recommendation letter, what he can do?
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nothing much. he must be at least hold qualification as a qualified technician with certain NVQ level for certain profesions (e.g. pharmacy technician, hospital technician) or qualified healthcare worker / carer etc.

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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 16 2008, 01:29 AM)
aha! that is not about HSMP anymore. it is like some agent/consultant, trying to find a way to get you in besides HSMP.

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Issit? Well..no idea. Tot its the same thing. laugh.gif

Anyway..its easier to get offered 1st than going thru this thing laa coz at least they kautim all the stuffz..u just need to go when the time comes, not much hassle and no risk of not getting a job. I was thinking of HSMP because i am more interested in their contract jobs...hiee sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Feb 16 2008, 02:18 AM)
Issit? Well..no idea. Tot its the same thing. laugh.gif

Anyway..its easier to get offered 1st than going thru this thing laa coz at least they kautim all the stuffz..u just need to go when the time comes, not much hassle and no risk of not getting a job. I was thinking of HSMP because i am more interested in their contract jobs...hiee sweat.gif
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hmmph? don't understand.

the good thing with HSMP you can work freely.

to apply HSMP, or any permits, there isnt need any agent if you know how to, and that will save you a lot of money too.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 16 2008, 07:12 AM)
hmmph? don't understand.

the good thing with HSMP you can work freely.

to apply HSMP, or any permits, there isnt need any agent if you know how to, and that will save you a lot of money too.
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dun understand? Noler...like u say, HSMP can work freely ma...so i was thinking of getting it becoz i was only interested in UK's contract jobs. But then again even if i get it...it doesnt gurantee any jobs wat. Its still a risk. Unlike if you get job offer 1st, they kautim everything and your position is secured.
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dun understand? Noler...like u say, HSMP can work freely ma...so i was thinking of getting it becoz i was only interested in UK's contract jobs. But then again even if i get it...it doesnt gurantee any jobs wat. Its still a risk. Unlike if you get job offer 1st, they kautim everything and your position is secured.
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aha. i see. the good thing with HSMP, yes they dont guarantee you any job, but you can come in and out UK without any problem. that means you are not attach to any company, you can work for several company/jobs and you can jump bot anytime. that is the difference with having a work permit, everything is tied to the company, and your leave to remain is given according to the work permit length.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 16 2008, 09:34 PM)
aha. i see. the good thing with HSMP, yes they dont guarantee you any job, but you can come in and out UK without any problem. that means you are not attach to any company, you can work for several company/jobs and you can jump bot anytime. that is the difference with having a work permit, everything is tied to the company, and your leave to remain is given according to the work permit length.
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Ya...hieez..but oredi failed......double hieeeezzz icon_rolleyes.gif

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Ya...hieez..but oredi failed......double hieeeezzz  icon_rolleyes.gif
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so what are you doing now? working in UK?

HSMP is not for fresh graduate anyway, because it requires you to have at least a year in work force, to establish your previous salary band.


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Haha I found this threads seems to be informative,

BTW, I have questions to you guys,

If you see some of the jobs, when they stated this in their requirements:

Excellent Salary + Benefits + Relocation


What does it means by relocation? Are they going to sponsored flight ticket and accomodation there?

OR

Or this simply just meant to be helping you applying for permanent or working permit there?

Actually it is both of them?
Just curious btw.
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QUOTE(ZZZzzz... @ Mar 11 2008, 06:47 PM)
Haha I found this threads seems to be informative,

BTW, I have questions to you guys,

If you see some of the jobs, when they stated this in their requirements:

Excellent Salary + Benefits + Relocation
What does it means by relocation? Are they going to sponsored flight ticket and accomodation there?

OR

Or this simply just meant to be helping you applying for permanent or working permit there?

Actually it is both of them?
Just curious btw.
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Relocation, usually means moving costs for furniture, personal belongings etc. Accommodation will usually be provided in the form of Hotel/B&B till you secure your own house/flat etc.
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icic, this means it is only applicable for local UK citizens, not really for non-UK/non-UE citizens which is far away.
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Interesting...

Those who is already working in UK, mind to shed some lights of which field are you in? Engineering, Banking, Accountancy, Sales, Marketing, Teaching?

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