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English Clubs Chelsea FC 2014/15 BPL Champion V38, BPL - Chelsea v Everton 11pm #812

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post Nov 3 2015, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 2 2015, 11:25 PM)
If I am Roman, I'll stay with Mourinho. We can see it as this way. This same group of players, this season lingering at 15th position. How many players in the Chelsea starting 11 would be auto starters in Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve? Seriously, I think only Courtois, Azpi. The rest, I dun think is capable of being starting 11 material in top top clubs.

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QUOTE(YumeNoTaMeNi @ Nov 2 2015, 11:42 PM)
Azpi walking into madrid, bayern or barca? Did you check the RB/LB of those teams or not?

Barca will be relevant for quite some time. Bayern? nah.. Is just a phase and pep chose smartly. Pep is overrated.
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Well i would agree that RM, BAYERN, BARCA might not be in for AZPI, even though his defending and work rate is superb but those team would prefer a more attacking RB/LB. But to be fair also, AZPI is playing on the left, so he will be less effective attacking with his weaker foot and JM always prefer 3 defender staying back at all times and IVA is the one given the green light to roam forward.

QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Nov 3 2015, 09:16 AM)
Costa to escape FA ban over skrtel clash
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Seriously he is not helping the team at all, not scoring is one thing but getting red card or ban for that in this moment where the team badly needed the turn around is just selfish IMO.

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post Nov 3 2015, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 3 2015, 09:13 AM)
as long as they are here to discuss, i think we should be open to it.  laugh.gif
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Yep, some more this is an unusual phenomenon.
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post Nov 3 2015, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 3 2015, 08:58 AM)
so far if we take out under performer from last year line it up will be

Kotua
X-Cahill-X-Azpi
X-X
Willian -X-X
X

Lol.

if all current players perform to their best and we take out older players..it will be

Kotua
Azpi-X-X-Baba
Cesc-Matic
Willian-Oscar-Hazard
Costa

not too bad actually..
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Problem is apparent on the back.... so, Mou needs to do what Mou knows best... start from the defense.

Start playing Baba and Djiboldji (did I spell his name correct). Zouma is currently in the transition to take over either Terry or Iva's place... He is just lack the experience... but his work rate should see him well... if Mou is game enough, he'll change the off form players. Here's my line-up for experimenting the best combination of formation.

Kortua (right now it's Begovic)
Azpi, Djiboldji, Zouma, Baba
RLC, Rami
Willian, Oscar, Kenedy
Remy

I think the above line up will get us the win with Oscar and Remy interchanging roles... Willian and Kenedy can play both sides (just like Robben and Duff does last time) let Hazard rest for 3 games and will take it from there... If Mou could drop the two times player of the season to the bench, there's no reason why Mou cannot do it now...

He is a master tactician... but I dun think he'll do it.... too much of a risk.
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Nov 3 2015, 09:05 AM)
Mou receives 1-match stadium ban
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Vs Stoke?

Hopefully can end our misery at Stoke. Highly unlikely though.
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post Nov 3 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(hakka_jin @ Nov 3 2015, 09:51 AM)
Problem is apparent on the back.... so, Mou needs to do what Mou knows best... start from the defense.

Start playing Baba and Djiboldji (did I spell his name correct). Zouma is currently in the transition to take over either Terry or Iva's place... He is just lack the experience... but his work rate should see him well... if Mou is game enough, he'll change the off form players. Here's my line-up for experimenting the best combination of formation.

Kortua (right now it's Begovic)
Azpi, Djiboldji, Zouma, Baba
      RLC, Rami
Willian, Oscar, Kenedy
        Remy

I think the above line up will get us the win with Oscar and Remy interchanging roles... Willian and Kenedy can play both sides (just like Robben and Duff does last time) let Hazard rest for 3 games and will take it from there... If Mou could drop the two times player of the season to the bench, there's no reason why Mou cannot do it now...

He is a master tactician... but I dun think he'll do it.... too much of a risk.
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Mou lost dy. Some of his sub this season really mindfuck.

Eg: sub Mikel and dave last time. Both doing well defensively. Sub him mighty falcao instead of remy.

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post Nov 3 2015, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 3 2015, 09:51 AM)
Vs Stoke?

Hopefully can end our misery at Stoke. Highly unlikely though.
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Yes

Rumors: hazard, Costa and terry will leave us


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post Nov 3 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 3 2015, 10:54 AM)
Mou lost dy. Some of his sub this season really mindfuck.

Eg: sub Mikel and dave last time. Both doing well defensively. Sub him mighty falcao instead of remy.
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I kindda understand the subs, because we were trailing..losing 1-2 or 1-3 still 0 pts..so he took the risk and go for it..if our defenders was in top game..they can deal with it..but that was not the case.

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post Nov 3 2015, 10:05 AM

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Jose Mourinho CAN turn things around at Chelsea, insists former Blues star Frank Lampard
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post Nov 3 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 3 2015, 09:54 AM)
Mou lost dy. Some of his sub this season really mindfuck.

Eg: sub Mikel and dave last time. Both doing well defensively. Sub him mighty falcao instead of remy.
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No la... we are chasing the game at 2-1... it's something every manager will do... sub ur defender for a striker... Don't see a problem there... if we are trailing 2-1 and Mou sub Costa for a defender then I say something wrong....
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post Nov 3 2015, 10:09 AM

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I agree with Lamps. Mourinho is the man. Stand behind him, through thick and THIN.

As Bill Shankly once said "If you can't support us when we lose, dont support us when we win"
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 3 2015, 09:54 AM)
Mou lost dy. Some of his sub this season really mindfuck.

Eg: sub Mikel and dave last time. Both doing well defensively. Sub him mighty falcao instead of remy.
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Remy did mentioned this before, he's more to running type, not tight space.
Falcao is like target men. fight in tight space, just he's not doing well so far la.
Liv game, after falcao come in. Costa was much drifting wide, falcao at the center.
Tactical wise, this is very clear by that time after Liv leading, they do more defending and player to player preasure.

study some tactic bro, there's a reason for each sub.
trailing behind, of course take out defence and put more attacking player.
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QUOTE(abusive123 @ Nov 3 2015, 10:09 AM)
I agree with Lamps. Mourinho is the man. Stand behind him, through thick and THIN.

As Bill Shankly once said "If you can't support us when we lose, dont support us when we win"
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I like this~ thumbup.gif
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post Nov 3 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(eeki @ Nov 3 2015, 10:40 AM)
Remy did mentioned this before, he's more to running type, not tight space.
Falcao is like target men. fight in tight space, just he's not doing well so far la.
Liv game, after falcao come in. Costa was much drifting wide, falcao at the center.
Tactical wise, this is very clear by that time after Liv leading, they do more defending and player to player preasure.

study some tactic bro, there's a reason for each sub.
trailing behind, of course take out defence and put more attacking player.
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Remy score few days before the game, still want gamble on falcao. That's not a wise tactic. I understand why he sub a defender for a striker. The problem is he sub in the worst of the 2 striker we hv on the bench. No need to be a tactical genius to know which option is better. Costa can continue in the middle.

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post Nov 3 2015, 12:36 PM

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Even former players like Lamps are backing Mourinho. Let's see how Roman deals with this. Really really hope Roman dun fire Mou.....AGAIN.

inb4 mutual consent. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Nov 3 2015, 12:36 PM)
Even former players like Lamps are backing Mourinho. Let's see how Roman deals with this. Really really hope Roman dun fire Mou.....AGAIN.

inb4 mutual consent. laugh.gif
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Yep. No worried about José staying. Worried about Roman sacking. Or mutual consent laugh.gif

Not even sure this traitor in the ranks is a legit story or not. Seems like its only been cooked up after Mourinho got nothing to say to the media. Nothing to sell papers with, so just make up something.

Even if Hazards want to go RM, RM also not really shown much interest in him compared to PSG. And not a must buy target for RM.
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Nov 3 2015, 12:32 PM)
Remy score few days before the game, still want gamble on falcao. That's not a wise tactic. I understand why he sub a defender for a striker. The problem is he sub in the worst of the 2 striker we hv on the bench. No need to be a tactical genius to know which option is better. Costa can continue in the middle.
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u missing the point.
the tactical is for that particular game.

your point is simply on stats, remy score, then remy should play. then might as well u argue why costa start the game.
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Nov 3 2015, 10:00 AM)
Yes

Rumors: hazard, Costa and terry will leave us
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good..i wish joe cole to comeback.jk
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post Nov 3 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(eeki @ Nov 3 2015, 02:13 PM)
u missing the point.
the tactical is for that particular game.

your point is simply on stats, remy score, then remy should play. then might as well u argue why costa start the game.
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I think it's fair to say that we don't see what Mou sees when the players are training... There's reason why Mou prefer Falcao over Remy... we as fans only saw the 90 minutes.... but outside of the 90 minutes, there is a lot of things that we do not know...

some players are good when come out from the bench and chase the game... and do badly when u start to play him on 90 minutes basis... I think Remy is one of those categories of player... And why Mou prefer Falcao over Remy when we are chasing the game? simple... Falcao is the target man... Only his presence in the middle is not as strong as compare to Drogba or Costa.... Compare to Remy who likes to drift to the side when receiving the ball... we already have our wide players... when Remy occupy the wide spaces, the middle target box is empty... none of our winger likes to cut into the box and fancy a header... none of our winger scores regularly from headers.... so, Falcao over Remy is understandable... and we dun have a fourth striker... even though Kenedy is registered as a striker, he was never deployed as a striker....

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QUOTE(eeki @ Nov 3 2015, 02:13 PM)
u missing the point.
the tactical is for that particular game.

your point is simply on stats, remy score, then remy should play. then might as well u argue why costa start the game.
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costa > remy, main role

remy > costa, support role

falcao both also lost to costa and remy. pick falcao over remy vs pool is a joke. that guy cant do shit.
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QUOTE(hakka_jin @ Nov 3 2015, 03:23 PM)
I think it's fair to say that we don't see what Mou sees when the players are training... There's reason why Mou prefer Falcao over Remy... we as fans only saw the 90 minutes.... but outside of the 90 minutes, there is a lot of things that we do not know...

some players are good when come out from the bench and chase the game... and do badly when u start to play him on 90 minutes basis... I think Remy is one of those categories of player... And why Mou prefer Falcao over Remy when we are chasing the game? simple... Falcao is the target man... Only his presence in the middle is not as strong as compare to Drogba or Costa....  Compare to Remy who likes to drift to the side when receiving the ball... we already have our wide players... when Remy occupy the wide spaces, the middle target box is empty... none of our winger likes to cut into the box and fancy a header... none of our winger scores regularly from headers.... so, Falcao over Remy is understandable... and we dun have a fourth striker... even though Kenedy is registered as a striker, he was never deployed as a striker....
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exactly my point. substitutions are based on tactical approach for that particular game.

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