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 CIMB flexi charge, increase to RM40 per month

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samkps
post Nov 7 2015, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Nov 7 2015, 10:17 AM)
Sam gor mbb conventional loan works similar to semi flexi. 25.00 per withdrawal. Reckon tats stil worth the try vs all the flexi. More so at certain cases conventional loan offering beta rate. Of cos oso depend on banks n every individual la.
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Thank yo Manu Boss for the suggestion... Shall look into this possibility for my next loan.. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 7 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 7 2015, 10:58 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, there is no explicit approval from BNM. The banks submit the products feature to BNM and if BNM  has not reverted with objection or query then approval is deemed granted.
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Jason taikor, charges based on utilization rate is not a product I presume, it is an additional charges that retard the original feature of the Full Flexi account. hmm.gif

Shall BNM approve such additional charges to existing customer? Housing loan is a long term tie between the customer and the bank. Imposing this charges gives no other alternatives for the consumer to avoid it, either interest or flexi charge.


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post Nov 7 2015, 11:46 AM

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If CIMB insists, BNM no action, we shall voice it to media…… c whether this Octo bank got any future customer anot……

Banker agent had given perception of only RM10 per month, and as consumer can offset as much possible to minimise the interest and enjoy the easy withdrawal, that's wat we briefed, regardless of what blab bla clause stated, we as consumer, NOT briefed…… Octobank's promises cannot be hold……

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alvintcn
post Nov 7 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(mindful @ Nov 1 2015, 06:10 PM)
Rm40 is too high!!! 300% increase. Perhaps RM15 is more fair.

Write to complain and also write to Bank Negara to complain too
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Not 300% increase. This is on top of the rm10 that that they are currently charging. Ridiculous!

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post Nov 7 2015, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(alvintcn @ Nov 7 2015, 11:49 AM)
Not 300% increase. This is on top of the rm10 that that they are currently charging. Ridiculous!
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Not even 10cents we can agree. As we agree, means we have no objection that octobank can impose any charge when needed anytime

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post Nov 7 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2015, 11:41 AM)
Jason taikor, charges based on utilization rate is not a product I presume, it is an additional charges that retard the original feature of the Full Flexi account.  hmm.gif

Shall BNM approve such additional charges to existing customer? Housing loan is a long term tie between the customer and the bank. Imposing this charges gives no other alternatives for the consumer to avoid it, either interest or flexi charge.
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Yeah definitely charges based on utilization rate is not a product but a feature of the product. For new product, banks have to write to BNM; for change of product features I presume the process shall be the same and no objection means consent.

My view is that, this revised charges shall apply only to new borrowings. I tend to believe BNM will side the borrowers based on my understanding.

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post Nov 7 2015, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 7 2015, 11:52 AM)
Yeah definitely charges based on utilization rate is not a product but a feature of the product.  For new product, banks have to write to BNM; for change of product features I presume the process shall be the same and no objection means consent.

My view is that, this revised charges shall apply only to new borrowings.  I tend to believe BNM will side the borrowers based on my understanding.
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If this new charges apply to new loan account, then most of us is okay. Nevertheless, these charges applied to current existing customer.

If it is a same process, does it mean BNM already aware of it and approved it as well? Or they approve it without careful evaluation on the subsequent impact? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Nov 7 2015, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2015, 12:17 PM)
If this new charges apply to new loan account, then most of us is okay. Nevertheless, these charges applied to current existing customer.

If it is a same process, does it mean BNM already aware of it and approved it as well? Or they approve it without careful evaluation on the subsequent impact?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Unable to answer on BNM's behalf sweat.gif
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post Nov 7 2015, 03:01 PM

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What is BNM email address that manage this kind of complain? I wanna complain as well. We need to defend our rights.

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post Nov 7 2015, 03:23 PM

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Only those with strong mountain backing utilize less than 70%. One could made hundred of thousands profit with this facility, why need to complain rm480 p.a fee.

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post Nov 7 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2015, 10:03 AM)
Ask CIMB show proof BNM already approved it, otherwise ask them fly kite..  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

I also can claim I received BNM's reply BNM is going to take serious action on CIMB because of this stupid charges as well, blow water only mah.  doh.gif
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yes I ask her to show me which clause that allow them to do that AND black and white where BNM or authority has approved it. waiting for their reply
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post Nov 7 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 7 2015, 03:23 PM)
Only those with strong mountain backing utilize less than 70%. One could made hundred of thousands profit with this facility, why need to complain rm480 p.a fee.
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I think u missed the point, we are now discussing that if this is allowed, does this mean that in future, the bank can simply amend/add additional t&c which is in favour to them but it's a lost to clients?

we have no comment on how cimb bank is going to set their t&c to its new customers, but NOT the existing clients! Once this is tolerated, then more nightmares are coming

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post Nov 7 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(KL_ppl @ Nov 7 2015, 03:01 PM)
What is BNM email address that manage this kind of complain? I wanna complain as well. We need to defend our rights.
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Here you go
bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my
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post Nov 7 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(hvaly87 @ Nov 7 2015, 03:27 PM)
I think u missed the point, we are now discussing that if this is allowed, does this mean that in future, the bank can simply amend/add additional t&c which is in favour to them but it's a lost to clients?

we have no comment on how cimb bank is going to set their t&c to its new customers, but NOT the existing clients! Once this is tolerated, then more nightmares are coming
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Aisi man is veteran in prop market n banking system. Just a side note. If he ever says yes v beta siam far far. Otw Aisi man ask u go eat oyster aka siham
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QUOTE(hvaly87 @ Nov 7 2015, 03:33 PM)
Here you go
bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my
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Noted and thanks. Time to file my complain.

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post Nov 7 2015, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 7 2015, 03:23 PM)
Only those with strong mountain backing utilize less than 70%. One could made hundred of thousands profit with this facility, why need to complain rm480 p.a fee.
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you working for the bank ka? seriously, you are way off the mark..

people want to complain let them be lah..

its their money after all...




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post Nov 7 2015, 05:30 PM

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Need politician+media to involve into this....
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post Nov 7 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 7 2015, 03:23 PM)
Only those with strong mountain backing utilize less than 70%. One could made hundred of thousands profit with this facility, why need to complain rm480 p.a fee.
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CIMB is so rich and mountainS backing, y dun ask octobank give us 480 monthly, y still ask for charge……

U are so clever leh, can find such a good reason…… pls help to advise octobank

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post Nov 7 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 7 2015, 03:23 PM)
Only those with strong mountain backing utilize less than 70%. One could made hundred of thousands profit with this facility, why need to complain rm480 p.a fee.
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Our principle will keep decrease from time to time and 70% utilisation rate is way too low. Think everyone will get affected very soon.

Maybe RM 480 p.a for you is a small matter. Imagine how many people is signing this loan from CIMB bank? How much money the bank is going to gain from this?
I don't really agree that they using this method to maximize their own profit, especially from existing customer.

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post Nov 7 2015, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Nov 7 2015, 04:53 PM)
you working for the bank ka?  seriously, you are way off the mark..

people want to complain let them be lah..

its their money after all...
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QUOTE(kinnasai @ Nov 7 2015, 05:44 PM)
CIMB is so rich and mountainS backing, y dun ask octobank give us 480 monthly, y still ask for charge……

U are so clever leh, can find such a good reason…… pls help to advise octobank
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QUOTE(yeow928 @ Nov 7 2015, 05:44 PM)
Our principle will keep decrease from time to time and 70% utilisation rate is way too low. Think everyone will get affected very soon.

Maybe RM 480 p.a for you is a small matter. Imagine how many people is signing this loan from CIMB bank? How much money the bank is going to gain from this?
I don't really agree that they using this method to maximize their own profit, especially from existing customer.
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Bank could have charge more like 1% p.a on unutilized sum like o.d.


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