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post Jul 25 2017, 02:44 PM

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Thought I'd post here as well

For FSM SG, I started in December with minimum lumpsum investment and thereafter do minimum monthly RSP
Current IRR 13.5%; ROI 5.45%

It's really too short term to say which one better, but for me, SG MAPS more beneficial since my own portfolio in FSM SG sucks, not diversified enough. Just updated my FSM SG DIY portfolio, my IRR only 5.08%
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post Aug 24 2017, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(simplylegendary @ Aug 23 2017, 06:16 PM)
Hi there, new to FSM here. I've just briefly skim through the pages. It seems that FSM, Phillips, and DollarDex are are all options for investments.

Which is the preferred option for someone that wants to put about ~30k USD into their funds for mid term growth.
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What do u want to buy? FSM also distribute bonds if that's relevant to you

Both FSM and Philip has quasi robo advisory. Same pricing. I prefer this product these days. No need to headache what to buy and when to rebalance.

If u r into robo advisory there's also smartly and all discussed in this thread. I still haven't got around trying them out

The only thing is most of them accepts SGD instead of USD. So u would want to check if you send them USD, what's the rate they would convert it to SGD before u can buy the product u wanted. Of course u can stick to the products that r denominated in USD, but it'll be limiting ur options unnecessarily
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post Sep 21 2017, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 21 2017, 02:13 PM)
I told you dividends/distribution doesn't matter. Whether the fund got payout or not payout, not important to me.  biggrin.gif In case you have doubts,
If you keep harping about dividends/distribution of unit trust, some day you will get conned (like most folks in Malaysia gets conned by PM returns even though the real return is nothing to shout about). Basically they give you RM1 worth of units, and the price also drop by RM1.

I think you need another lesson from dasecret regarding distribution/dividends?
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Don't want la, last time I tried explaining then he say I'm rude to him

Asian HY is not the way to go anymore la.... kan FSM already said that like last year. Sometimes we have to follow trend also la
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post Sep 25 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 23 2017, 11:20 AM)
Okay,... tell me then,...what if I bought the following funds at the following prices and am still getting dividends today,... or wait,.. perhaps you guys are comparing me against the best funds out there,...

Surely, if yuo always compare me with the best performing funds out there,.. mine cannot win-lar,... you keep comparing me with that Pine fund,..

Bros, what,.. hang-on, I think dasecret is a young lady, sorry honey.... what I needed is cashflow,.. it's not accumulated capital gain over a longer period. So, it's not fair to compare me with the accumulation funds-mar,... isn't it ??
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 23 2017, 12:01 PM)
Get your concept right first. All unit trust/mutual funds distribution/dividends are useless. You can search article written by govt link blogs to financial blogs all mentioned the same thing whether it's india, hong kong, malaysia, Singapore.

I give you few examples
Fund 1
A fund which give you 3% dividend every quarter without fail with returns of average 5%p.a over 3 years

Fund 2
A fund which give only 1% dividend once per year with returns of average 5%p.a over 3 years.

Fund 3
A fund which give only 1% dividend once per year with returns of average 7%p.a over 3 years.

Which would be the better choice?

She's an auntie who major in accounting.
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Have to try to peace make here

I'm younger than Hansel so he call call me young lady, but I'm also much older than fresh grad, so that's why I'm auntie to him

You see, this statement essentially means the same thing as the argument here. It's the perspective.

Ramjade; and myself in the past, try to explain to Hansel that just because the fund gives distribution and the NAV holds doesn't mean it's the best fund available on FSM. The assessment is a lot more accurate and objective if one looks at returns instead of distribution + NAV value doesn't go to red.

Hansel on the other hand feels that regular distribution is what he wants and perhaps, because he's quite rich, he doesn't really want to spend time researching for the best funds currently. Since this is the segment that made him money he would like to just continue with it. Your money your call

Food for thought, while it's convenient to have regular distribution done by the fund, but if the total returns for a fund without distribution is much higher than the one with distribution, it may be worthwhile to "DIY" the distribution by selling some units on a regular basis. It's effectively the same thing.

Another food for thought, the strategy that worked for the past 5 years may not work for the next 5 years. Example, Kodak filed for bankruptcy because they couldn't evolve with time while Fujifilm continue to do well because of the instax polaroid type product. So sometimes we do need to move ships so we don't sink slowly



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post Sep 25 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 25 2017, 09:50 AM)
I think both of you around the same age.  :blush


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Sure or not.... he cannot be early 30s la cool2.gif

Just realise the fire between the 2 is not just on this thread. Hope I didn't add oil to fire
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post Sep 25 2017, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 25 2017, 10:53 AM)
You are early 30s?  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif
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Lol... why so shocked? I'm still a lot older than you

Anyway, in Msia the definition of auntie is when you are married with kids ma. So I do qualify geh. With my tech savvy-ness and risk appetite it's quite clear I'm much younger than auntie twinkle right?
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post Sep 25 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 25 2017, 11:11 AM)
Auntie should be 40+. 30+ can consider madam. I guess so. Auntie twinkle don't know gone where.
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Enjoying her dividends from ASx kua.... that's what ASx products are good for. Zero monitoring cos nothing for you to monitor

Anyway, you got change SGD or not... still hovering 3.11. I really don't think can hit 3.08 since USD:MYR is already lowest since Nov16
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post Sep 25 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 25 2017, 11:21 AM)
No. I think 3.10 is possible. I will settle for 3.10.
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KL money changer rate may not reach 3.10 also cos they always hold the rate. Happened to AUD, XE rate already 3.34 but they hold it at 3.39; even buy rate is at 3.37
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post Sep 26 2017, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 26 2017, 08:50 AM)
But without a Singapore bank account, how do we transfer money to buy and sell unit trusts from FSM SG?
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You can TT straight into FSM SG account. But when you want to withdraw, a bit more tricky lor, probably have to TT the SGD (or change change into USD) back to a Msia bank foreign currency account
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post Sep 26 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 26 2017, 02:27 PM)

FSM Malaysia has a Cash Account where we can buy in AUD, US, SGD and RM. I wonder what is the exchange rate they use.
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Maybe another relevant question is, if you buy SGD on FSM Msia, can they transfer/TT it to FSM SG?
If cannot then no point also
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post Oct 25 2017, 04:01 PM

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Ramjade elea88

Hey, update here la, what funds you all buy. I'm still with the same old MAPS, so much easier

My First state dividend advantage back to live from previously half dead status, but schroder asian growth is better (and I didn't buy yawn.gif ), only has some through MAPS
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post Oct 26 2017, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 25 2017, 04:53 PM)
I have already shared before. Here you go,  Currently I only have 4 funds
1. First state india
2. Schroder Asian Growth
3. United Japan small cap
4. Pimco Income SGD-H (think of this like affin hwang select bond)
- this will be my parking spot for mega stock market crash.
- otherwise just buy small amount every month sad.gif

If you are using Fsm, switch first state dividend for Schroder Asian total return.  I can't buy that as POEMS don't offer the SGD version.
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Schroder asian total return is closed for new subscription ler. Anyway alternative investment with this sort of return is not my cup of tea

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/admin/...sheetSCD025.pdf
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post Jan 30 2018, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Jan 30 2018, 12:51 PM)
Guys how do I invest in FSM SG ?
Do I need a bank account there?
Will cash remittance cost a lot in terms of charges and also unfavourable exchange rates ?
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Hi, can continue the discussion here.

It's possible to invest in FSM SG without singapore bank account, you can send SGD directly to FSM SG, either using money match or normal bank TT. The former should be cheaper than the latter.

But when you want to sell the funds and TT back to Msia, FSM SG cannot TT back RM, so you will either need a multi-currency FCA in Msia bank account or you will be translating it to RM at bank rate, where usually the rate is unfavorable

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post Jan 30 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(drbone @ Jan 8 2018, 11:03 AM)
Managed to open SG savings account, CIMB and Maybank iSAVvy. This thread is surprisingly very quiet.
Planning to go into FSM SG.
Any other newbies here?
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Sorry, been busy and have not been keeping an eye on FSM SG, just let the MAPS auto-pilot
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post Jan 30 2018, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 30 2018, 07:26 PM)

You should discourage from people from signing up with FSM SG instead of encouraging them. If they still want to sign up and buy from FSM SG after knowing how much FSM SG charge,  so be it.
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U know why you are being seen as annoying by so many in LYN even when you tirelessly answer every question? Because you impose your views on others and think only your view is the right one.

I use FSM SG and therefore I’ll respond to questions that I know answers of, in terms of using FSM SG

As far as I’m concerned, your way of researching on FSM SG and buying on other more inferior platform is akin to going into a fast food restaurant to see what others are eating and what seems to taste nice, then walk out to the road side stall to buy it, then walk back into the fast food restaurant to eat and use their utensils, maybe chili sauce too, and then laugh at everyone who buy the food in the fast food restaurant for being stupid to pay more than what you did. This is not an acceptable behavior offline, but becos e-commerce works a bit differently, there’s no effective way to get rid of free loaders like you. But since I believe in sustainable supply chain, I’ll still pay for the food in fast food restaurant, until such time I feel that what they offer is not what I want anymore.
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post Jan 4 2022, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(sgh @ Dec 22 2021, 01:17 PM)
Been reading up on ETF recently. Assume one already have unit trust in most geography and countries, purchase ETF which duplicate with the stocks held in those fund is not stretching your dollar to the max.

One is sell off all your unit trust and re-enter by purchasing the ETF for those geography and countries. This implies giving up those fund returns accumulated over the years (for me is 20+ years) especially on CPF investment.

Second is to use ETF to complement your existing unit trust. I notice there are a lot of thematic/tactical theme play ETF for which stocks are not covered very well in unit trust fund. They are very risky of cuz so none I that I have checked can use CPF investment. All need to transact with cash.

Hence it wouldn't hurt to test water by opting in for the FSM ETF RSP with a low minimum $50 monthly for one ETF. The RSP list seem quite limited can write in to FSM helpdesk ask their research team to review if you want to add in a new ETF into the RSP list.

The selling of ETF RSP for fractional shares via this special RSP arrangement is Flat SGD 1 (SGX), Flat HKD 5 (HKEX). I like the "flat" keyword instead of percentage. Just avoid the FSM US listed ETF as there are cheaper alternatives elsewhere in terms of comm fees paid for selling. But you can only sell once per month at a designated day of the month. For trader I think this is not a good program. It is more for long term ETF investor instead.

Understand the ETF market seem to be all concentrated in US but I find HKEX not that bad too especially if you want to target China,HK specific ETF.
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Thank you for keeping this thread alive rclxms.gif
I've gone dormant for quite a while

I can understand the perspective of others who complain about UT charges and FSM's platform fees, the lowyat folks tend to be VERYYYY price sensitive if you look around the various cost minimising, free money threads

I continued with FSM SG for the sums invested previously, both in UT and MAPS, to be honest, it's generally better than FSM MY, especially MAPS. I've since divested my FSM MY's managed portfolio due to its lacklustre performance and unclear investment strategy.

I've also started with a few roboadvisor in SG, currently with Autowealth and Syfe core. Autowealth did significantly better than Syfe and Stashaway due to its focus in US equities. I'm not the active investor type so I've no plans to do direct ETF or share trading like most forumers here.

At the end of the day it depends on your investing style. Are you the type who can afford to spend time tweaking your portfolio every other day or you are investing for wealth accumulation but focused on living your life instead.

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