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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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chikuera
post Nov 21 2015, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Nov 21 2015, 06:39 PM)
hmm.gif It's showing as RM779 for me, price list is the 16th november update.
That GPU is the weak point of the build. Don't expect to run The Witcher 3 on 1080p. Go with TristanX's or terence_nwb's suggestion. Parts these days are expensive due to GST & weakening of the currency. Before, an i5 + R9 270 below 2K was possible. doh.gif
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yeah damn it obama! tongue.gif

hm. is there any 'just nice' graphic between mine, your suggestion and terence's? bcoz i'm ok if can play game at least at med setting..no need to ultra graphic hehe
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QUOTE(chikuera @ Nov 21 2015, 06:24 PM)
How about this?

Core i3-4150 -RM419
Asrock B85M-HDS motherboard - RM264
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM189
Leadtek GT730 2GB DDR3 -RM279
WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM194
FSP Hexa+ 550W power supply - RM189
Thermaltake Versa H25 case -RM139

Total Rm1673  thumbup.gif

Again, I'm a noob in this kind of things..correct me if there is something wrong or not right  sweat.gif
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The graphic card is crap.I suggest at least GTX750 or R7 260 for 1280x1024.

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Nov 21 2015, 06:39 PM)
hmm.gif It's showing as RM779 for me, price list is the 16th november update.
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Yeah, downloaded it again and its back to 779 now.
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post Nov 21 2015, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 21 2015, 05:44 PM)
Hi guys! It's me again asking for another insights before finalize my shopping-trip

This was the RM3,500 gaming build that I asked the other day..

p/s : I only play MMORPG  like Dragon Nest and TERA online (hoping to play in high settings with good FPS. I have motion sickness when playing AAA games)

Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Dual fan - RM 849
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 409
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 349
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

(Price from techview)

And I would like to ask for suggestions about monitor, router and mouse.
(I hope i can find any suggestion here to prevent new thread)

For monitor, I am currently using BenQ GL2460HM.
So far I am using it as external to my laptop.
Will give out this monitor to someone as soon i get the new rig so I want to chip in for a new monitor.
Any suggestion for good monitor that can give me 60fps gaming experience? (with better color too but don't need IPS?) - Budget preferably below 700 but any monitor below RM1,000 can be considered.
Is there any monitor that the same as good ol' Dell U2312HM?

As for router, I  have been curious about this..How is it fare in improving the speed? Currently using 30mbps subscription Unifi and stock router.
We use HyppTV though..compatible with HyppTV is good (No astro in our condo) - Budget RM400 and below

Mouse..Any recommendation for Palm grip user? Budget RM250 and below.
Was aiming Logitech G502 the other month but..so far no review in Malaysia yet?

Thank you guys  blush.gif
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There is a pretty cheap IPS monitor from AOC, I2360SD, RM 499 from Techview.

You can also look for Dell U2414H, my personal recommendation, nice color and freaking thin bezel, it is around 1k, under same UltraSharp series with U2312HM.

"improving the speed" <--- can you get full 30mbps on WiFi? If can then I don't think you need to change so soon unless you are sick of the crappy WiFi signal of the stock router.

As for palm grip mouse, you can look for Logitech G502 or Razor Deathadder, there is a video review by Linus on Youtube.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 21 2015, 08:40 PM)
The graphic card is crap.I suggest at least GTX750 or R7 260 for 1280x1024.

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1280x1024 is my old flat monitor..if others can come cheap, may consider buy an under rm200 monitor hmm.gif

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post Nov 21 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 21 2015, 09:34 PM)
There is a pretty cheap IPS monitor from AOC, I2360SD, RM 499 from Techview.

You can also look for Dell U2414H, my personal recommendation, nice color and freaking thin bezel, it is around 1k, under same UltraSharp series with U2312HM.

"improving the speed" <--- can you get full 30mbps on WiFi? If can then I don't think you need to change so soon unless you are sick of the crappy WiFi signal of the stock router.

As for palm grip mouse, you can look for Logitech G502 or Razor Deathadder, there is a video review by Linus on Youtube.
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Thanks for the reply terence!

Are there any other options aside for the U2414H monitor? Like how about BenQ Gaming series monitor?

As for the router, our router position is a bit isolated (like in the corner) maybe the signal is a bit off? Mine sometimes got cut off whenever i am playing..
which is really annoying. Not sure if change the router can also improve a bit speed? or it will remain the same?

I just read about that mouse..It seems like G502 is a claw grip mouse? Maybe Razer DeathAdder suits me more but I got tired with Razer branding...
Also bad experience with Logitech too rclxub.gif
But DeathAdder seems like is a top-notch mouse regardless being a Razer..
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post Nov 21 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 21 2015, 09:52 PM)
Thanks for the reply terence!

Are there any other options aside for  the U2414H monitor? Like how about BenQ Gaming series monitor?

As for the router, our router position is a bit isolated (like in the corner) maybe the signal is a bit off? Mine sometimes got cut off whenever i am playing..
which is really annoying. Not sure if change the router can also improve a bit speed? or it will remain the same?

I just read about that mouse..It seems like G502 is a claw grip mouse? Maybe Razer DeathAdder suits me more but I  got tired with Razer branding...
Also bad experience with Logitech too  rclxub.gif
But DeathAdder seems like is a top-notch mouse regardless being a Razer..
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Some say G502 is palm grip, some say claw grip, well you have to try the demo yourself only know which to pick laugh.gif

Gaming monitor? Normally they come with TN panel which I don't like, maybe I am get used to IPS so couldn't go back to TN.

144Hz - XL2411Z (RM 1199)
60Hz - RL2460HT (RM 999, not worth the money since it is still 60Hz and TN panel)

If WiFi signal is weak, speed will become slower and latency will increase, try to use LAN cable if you can, if cannot then you can get a better router with strong antenna like Asus RT-N18U/RT-N14UHP/RT-12HP.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 21 2015, 12:54 PM)
It seems like you are buying from Idealtech, they only carry Plextor and Samsung SSD, last time got Liteon but not sure now still have or not, if still got, then Liteon S900 128GB/256GB is one of the best choices.

As for RAM, go for 1x8GB instead if possible, but I know Idealtech is selling 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB (if I am correct), either the value RAM (2133MHz, RM 249) or RipjawsV (2400MHz, RM 329) will do.

Both of the GPU you've listed are very expensive, nearly 1.9k for GTX970, well it doesn't look worth to me at all, top up another 300 and you can get GTX980 (Palit), some other shops are selling GTX980 below 2k and AMD equivalent card (R9 390 with 8GB VRAM) at 1.6k mark only, 1.9k can get you a R9 390X which is even better than GTX980.

Well your choice  wink.gif
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last time did selling liteon, it is from plextor, Liteon made Plextor.
for those who still using liteon, beware ! and please make a backup for ur data.
I am sure the SSD will kong within 1 year.
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post Nov 21 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 21 2015, 10:09 PM)
Some say G502 is palm grip, some say claw grip, well you have to try the demo yourself only know which to pick  laugh.gif

Gaming monitor? Normally they come with TN panel which I don't like, maybe I am get used to IPS so couldn't go back to TN.

144Hz - XL2411Z (RM 1199)
60Hz - RL2460HT (RM 999, not worth the money since it is still 60Hz and TN panel)

If WiFi signal is weak, speed will become slower and latency will increase, try to use LAN cable if you can, if cannot then you can get a better router with strong antenna like Asus RT-N18U/RT-N14UHP/RT-12HP.
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True that. I need to test it by myself. At least I have the final two options to choose biggrin.gif

I like IPS too as TN panel is a bit..annoying? biggrin.gif

How about the other IPS monitor?
I am not sure about IPS monitor that much since first will be using it (soon)

Dell S2316H RM749
Dell S2216H RM619

LG 23"IPS (23MP75H) RM680


Asus RT-N14UHP is compatible with Unifi? As in can use hypptv as usual?

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 21 2015, 10:34 PM)
last time did selling liteon, it is from plextor, Liteon made Plextor.
for those who still using liteon, beware ! and please make a backup for ur data.
I am sure the SSD will kong within 1 year.
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Any reliable source or claim that can support your statement? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 21 2015, 10:50 PM)
True that. I need to test it by myself. At least I have the final two options to choose biggrin.gif

I like IPS too as TN panel is a bit..annoying? biggrin.gif

How about the other IPS monitor?
I am not sure about IPS monitor that much since first will be using it (soon)

Dell S2316H RM749
Dell S2216H RM619

LG 23"IPS (23MP75H) RM680
Asus RT-N14UHP is compatible with Unifi? As in can use hypptv as usual?
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Take note on the screen type, cheap IPS normally comes with glossy screen type, which mean you will see your reflection on the screen if you are under bright light source.

RT-N14UHP is compatible with UniFi and HyppTV.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 21 2015, 11:37 PM)
Any reliable source or claim that can support your statement?  hmm.gif
Take note on the screen type, cheap IPS normally comes with glossy screen type, which mean you will see your reflection on the screen if you are under bright light source.

RT-N14UHP is compatible with UniFi and HyppTV.
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I see.. Guess I will settle with the U2414H then! biggrin.gif

Thanks for the clarification. Will get that too.

Another one, seeing that the post above saying Liteon is like that..
What are the alternatives to get for 256gb SSD yeah?
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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 21 2015, 11:43 PM)
I see.. Guess I will settle with the U2414H then!  biggrin.gif

Thanks for the clarification. Will get that too.

Another one, seeing that the post above saying Liteon is like that..
What are the alternatives to get for 256gb SSD yeah?
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A lot, like Kingston HyperX Fury, Transcend 370, Kingston HyperX Savage, they are around RM 400+/- range.

Samsung 850 EVO and Intel 535 > RM 500.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 21 2015, 11:48 PM)
A lot, like Kingston HyperX Fury, Transcend 370, Kingston HyperX Savage, they are around RM 400+/- range.

Samsung 850 EVO and Intel 535 > RM 500.
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I just checked lelong and saw Savage and Fury they have same price.
Either way is fine yes?
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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 21 2015, 11:50 PM)
I just checked lelong and saw Savage and Fury they have same price.
Either way is  fine yes?
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Savage is a bit faster than Fury in terms of read/write performance.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 22 2015, 12:01 AM)
Savage is a bit faster than Fury in terms of read/write performance.
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Since it is a bit faster, is it advisable to go for Fury? Since it's not making an impact too..yes?
Fury +RM40 = Savage... blush.gif
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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 22 2015, 12:05 AM)
Since it is a bit faster, is it advisable to go for Fury? Since it's not making an impact too..yes?
Fury +RM40 =  Savage... blush.gif
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Up to you, if the RM 40 is not worth the extra speed then choose Fury tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 22 2015, 12:16 AM)
Up to you, if the RM 40 is not worth the extra speed then choose Fury  tongue.gif
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Aye. That should clarify everything.
Thanks terence as always!

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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 22 2015, 12:26 AM)
Aye. That should clarify everything.
Thanks terence as always!

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RM 429.00
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http://www.lelong.com.my/samsung-850-evo-2...5-12-Sale-P.htm
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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Nov 21 2015, 11:43 PM)
I see.. Guess I will settle with the U2414H then!  biggrin.gif

Thanks for the clarification. Will get that too.

Another one, seeing that the post above saying Liteon is like that..
What are the alternatives to get for 256gb SSD yeah?
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How much retail pricing for U2414H? I am interested on a monitor as well, but will get one in Jan.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 21 2015, 11:37 PM)
Any reliable source or claim that can support your statement?  hmm.gif
Take note on the screen type, cheap IPS normally comes with glossy screen type, which mean you will see your reflection on the screen if you are under bright light source.

RT-N14UHP is compatible with UniFi and HyppTV.
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idealtech warranty record book can show everything.
dont only look at the review
try to ask the shops who really sell alot that particular models, all knew the Liteon&Plextor alot failure units recentl
or read the customers feedback from newegg or idealtech fb group

try to avoid models below if u want to "Recommend" something to the forumers.
Plextor M6S 128GB SSD
Liteon 900S 256GB SSD
Liteon 900S 128GB SSD
Seasonic S12 II 620W
Seasonic X650
Seasonic X750


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post Nov 22 2015, 11:20 AM

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Ok now as i think my budget is getting smaller (booked ticket to koh samui for next year, need to save cash to enjoy ;p)

Pentium 3250 dual core -RM229
Asrock B85M-HDS motherboard - RM264
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM189
Sapphire R7 250 boost 2gb ddr5 -RM349
WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM194
FSP Hexa+ 550W power supply - RM189
Thermaltake Versa H25 case - RM139

Total Build RM1553 (Viewnet)


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