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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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post Nov 23 2015, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(lolful @ Nov 23 2015, 02:39 PM)
Is the Zotac Gtx 960 better than Sapphire R9 280 3Gb?
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If VRAM usage is > 2GB, R9 280 will have advantage, otherwise they are almost the same.

QUOTE(chikuera @ Nov 23 2015, 06:20 PM)
A friend of my friend (lol) suggest me to take AMD Athlon ii X4 860k as i want a quad core in i5 but dont have the budget. Is it good?

& some suggest that AMD gpu doesnt run well with Witcher 3. Is it true?
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i3 has better single core performance even though it is only dual core, most of the Intel out perform AMD CPU even though cores are lesser, don't judge performance by just looking at the core offered. A

And why you need quad core CPU? Any heavy workload or gaming there?

Witcher 3 is packed with Nvidia GameWorks, which holds back the performance of AMD card, but they (settings) can be disabled completely if I am not mistaken, but so far quite a lot of titles released this year are having issue with AMD card, if you want performance out of the box, go for Nvidia card, it is safer at least.
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post Nov 23 2015, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Nov 23 2015, 09:21 PM)
[Budget] RM 4K

[Purpose] video rendering and photo editing, not much gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] power supply 750w, noctua d14 cpu cooler, case

[Monitor resolution] 2560x1440 x 2

[Games & softwares that use frequently] sony vegas, photoshop, adobe premiere, etc. Not much games.

[Personal preferences] 6 core cpu intel 5820k

[Location] KL
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Hmm, do you already own the two 1440p monitor or they need to be included in the budget (you didn't include monitor in the hardware to reuse part so I am not sure about this)?
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post Nov 23 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Nov 23 2015, 10:21 PM)
yeah, i have updated my post above. I already had 2 monitors with 2k resolution. Also inclusive the hdd 1tb, ssd 60gb.
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Intel Core i7 5820K - RM 1749
ASRock X99 Extreme 4 - RM 1099
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 3000MHz RAM - RM 649
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 499

Total: RM 3996 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)


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post Nov 24 2015, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Nov 23 2015, 11:08 PM)
I couldn't find the asrock x99 extreme 4 price on Viewnet pricelist: http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf

I found some cheap ones on lelong which is approximately same price as above but with 3.1 usb card.
http://list.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/List.as...d=&PriceUBound=
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They suppose still have stock, probably removed from the list due to the massive stock addition of LGA1151 mobo (list too long and no space to list old mobo). And of course you can buy the parts from others if they are cheaper.
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post Nov 24 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(chikuera @ Nov 24 2015, 09:08 AM)
Just gaming and a bit of simulation software (ANSYS). So Nvidia is the safest choice that run well for most games right? thanks
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Yes, at least you have day 1 driver support and better performance without tweaking any settings, but drawback is more expensive than the same tier AMD card.
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post Nov 24 2015, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(chikuera @ Nov 24 2015, 11:19 AM)
thanks for the info..

one more question, is it more expensive to buy parts gradually eg cpu on january, gpu on february etc or buy all parts once at a time
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If buy all parts at once, you might be able to get some discounts from the shop, but price will be according to current market's price.

If you buy separately in each month, there are some possible situations, first is MYR continues to drop and price will increase next year, second is MYR strengthen against USD, price might be cheaper. If buying separately, high chance there isn't any discount unless the seller is very kind to you laugh.gif
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post Nov 24 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(chikuera @ Nov 24 2015, 12:04 PM)
as a first timer building a rig, i dont think i have cable anywhere to seller community  sweat.gif

yeah hope that the RM wouldnt fall lower..was in a meeting yesterday with client, they talking about the US gonna introduce interest rate so that the RM would depreciate worse..(not sure what does that means, not a finance/business background)

Maybe I would buy the most expensive part first, eg CPU.. maybe there can establish me as a proven or potential buyer in long term hehe
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If you are thinking of getting Intel Skylake CPU then go just ahead because Intel won't release new gen CPU so soon, if others then you need to consider the timeframe, some might have new products incoming soon, if you don't mind getting obsolete hardware, then either way is fine.
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QUOTE(lolful @ Nov 24 2015, 05:43 PM)
So should I opt for the 280? I found a seller selling it for rm780++
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They are having almost identical performance except the VRAM is 3GB on R9 280, but due to some performance issues on recently released games on AMD card, I suggest you to stick with GTX960 for better performance out of the box especially those Nvidia GameWorks enhanced titles.
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QUOTE(TobiWan @ Nov 25 2015, 01:14 PM)
Hey guys, need your help here. I have no experience in building a rig neither do I have substantial knowledge to hardwares but still, i'm trying to give it a go. So here it is:

[Budget] Below 4k MYR

[Purpose] High Resolution Gaming (mainstream PC games that are going to be released in the upcoming years), very casual online gaming (not a big fan of Dota 2 or etc.) and Photo processing (photoshop, lightroom),

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] Do not own one.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] photoshop, lightroom, hoping to be able to play games ( new releases ) in the future.

[Personal preferences] Be a viable gaming rig for at least 2-3 years.

[Location] KL

Cheers.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 899
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 ZT-90101-10P - RM 1479
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
BenQ GW2255 - RM 390

Total: RM 3986 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

* OS, keyboard/mouse, SSD not included.

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post Nov 25 2015, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Nov 25 2015, 05:32 PM)
Hey wanna ask since its hardware too.

Do i need specific model wifi pci card to TIME? (move out to condo so unifi tarak)

If yes/no can you guys any model thats reliable ?
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You mean TIME Broadband? If yes then no need any special model, normal WiFi card will do.

If you are applying for 100Mbps package then you need to know you won't be able to fully utilize the 100Mbps speed on WiFi because the stock router given by TIME (ZTE H298N) isn't strong enough, only LAN cable can get full speed, average is around 60Mbps only on WiFi (I am using it also so I know). Get a 5GHz with 802.11ac mode router and you are good to go.
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QUOTE(mothangel @ Nov 25 2015, 08:30 PM)
Yes TIME broadband. Thanks! Will be moving to condo that is using TIME so considering using wifi card cause later i tarik cable to my room seems not nice  sweat.gif
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Then a normal USB WiFi card (cheaper) or PCI-E WiFi (more expensive) will do, you can get those with dual band support just in case for future 5GHz router.
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post Nov 26 2015, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Nov 26 2015, 12:06 AM)
Alrighty!

Will this sufficient enough ?

TP-LINK TL-T2UH WIFI AC600 DUAL BAND  RM89
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If you worry about signal quality, go for PCI-E based WiFi card instead, if not then it is sufficient, generally USB WiFi card is weaker in signal.
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QUOTE(Ecthelion1 @ Nov 26 2015, 09:07 AM)
[Budget] - RM4K

[Purpose]- Entertainment and gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - None

[Monitor resolution] - Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - SC2, Dota 2 and WoW (high settings)

[Personal preferences] ssd for frequently used programs and 1tb hdd for others. Cheap speakers, audio not really a factor for me

[Location] - PJ
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 899
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90306-10M - RM 840
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD - RM 399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
AOC I2360SD IPS - RM 499

Total: RM 3855 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you play other latest triple A titles and want to run on almost max settings, please change the GPU from GTX960 to GTX970.

Keyboard/mouse/speaker is not included in the list, you can just grab whatever suits you with the remaining funds.
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QUOTE(ryant3o @ Nov 26 2015, 03:24 PM)
[Budget] - RM1k

[Purpose]- Low End Gaming/Surfing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - Keyboard,Mouse, Speakers, Monitor

[Monitor resolution] - Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CSGO Low settings, Fallout New Vegas, Indie Games

[Personal preferences] No need SSD, Prioritize CPU rather than GPU but if you could fit in a decent GPU that would be great. 

[Location] - Can buy from Lowyat

Here's a challenge for you guys smile.gif I understand that the budget is ridiculously low but I'm a student so I guess that will have to do. Also willing to consider 2nd hand parts
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Intel Pentium G3250 - RM 239
ASRock H81M-VG4 - RM 219
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 99
Sapphire R7 240 1GB GDDR5 Boost - RM 259
Toshiba 500GB HDD - RM 184
Cap Ayam Casing + PSU ~ RM 80

Total: RM 1080 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

Well I suggest you to save more first before buying, this spec is pathetic TBH sweat.gif
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QUOTE(keteyboyz @ Nov 26 2015, 07:50 PM)
what mobo n psu suitable for below rig?

i5 6500
MOBO:
2x8GB DDR4 2400mhz ram
evga GTX970 gpu
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COOLERMASTER K282 case
2TB HDD x3
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Need budget first so I can make suggestion based on it.
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QUOTE(keteyboyz @ Nov 26 2015, 08:56 PM)
3d modeling
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4.5k can go for i7 and it really helps a lot in rendering/modeling.

As for mobo, B150/H170 will do, i.e MSI B150M Bazooka D4 (RM 409, mATX) or Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 (RM 589, ATX).

And RAM, you can just get value RAM, especially those with 2133MHz, because only Z170 mobo can use > 2133MHz RAM, so if you get 2400MHz and install it in B150/H170 mobo, it will downclock itself to 2133MHz also.

As for PSU, if budget allows, you can go for Seasonic M12II EVO 620W (RM 409), if budget not enough, FSP Hexa+ 550W (RM 199) will do the job just fine.

Please note that the price and product range is different for each shop, I see you included an EVGA GTX970, so high chance you are getting from Idealtech, they don't carry MSI mobo one.

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QUOTE(wulimaza @ Nov 26 2015, 08:48 PM)
[Budget] - RM3k

[Purpose]- Gaming

[Monitor resolution] - 1080p

[Personal preferences] need monitor and speaker. within budget

thanks.
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Will use Haswell (4th gen) instead of Skylake (6th gen) due to budget issue.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 830
Asus H81M-K - RM 240
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90310-10M - RM 819
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
BenQ GW2255 - RM 390

Total: RM 3062 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Little over budget, hopefully you are ok with it sweat.gif

As for speaker, just grab those cheap one like Edifier M1250 (~RM 40).
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QUOTE(keteyboyz @ Nov 26 2015, 09:48 PM)
suggest me budget 4.5k with i7
try with idealtech pc builder price goes to 5.5k
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1375
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 589
GSKill NT 16GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 498
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1579
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 4608 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Idealtech pricing is slightly higher than other shops FYI but they provide better after sales services.
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Nov 26 2015, 10:47 PM)
[Budget]RM3000

[Purpose]Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]Monitor, keyboard, mouse

[Personal preferences]is it possible to get 970 gpu with 3k budget?
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Not quite possible unless you have HDD to reuse and the build will be based on Haswell (4th gen) instead of Skylake (6th gen).

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 830
Asus H81M-K - RM 240
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 3027 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you don't have HDD to reuse, it is still possible to get a GTX970 + i5 rig under 3k, but you need to spend time to hunt for the cheapest item either online or physical shop.

To get Skylake i5, you need to top up another RM 250, just for CPU + mobo + RAM alone.



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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Nov 27 2015, 12:04 AM)
For skylake i5, what is your recommended setup? and budget up to RM3500.
Btw, thanks for the suggestions.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 899
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 3516 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

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