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post Nov 15 2015, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(silentxoblivion @ Nov 15 2015, 11:01 AM)
I can't afford to buy everything in one shot. Need to buy the parts monthly around 1.5k/month. or should i just wait till i have enough money and buy everything?

Any suggestions on when is the best time to buy PC parts? Wait for year end or beginning of next year?
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With the current market price and unstable RM, I would say it will be almost similar unless RM bounces back to 3.xx range (to USD). If you see there is a promotion on the parts you want, get it first to save some money.
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post Nov 15 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ Nov 15 2015, 02:24 PM)
Should i get intel i7 6700 or intel xeon e3?
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It is Skylake vs Haswell question.

Skylake one is more expensive but packed with the improvements of Skylake and iGPU while Xeon E3 doesn't.

Price difference is around RM 300, choice is yours. If pick Skylake, you are on the latest platform, if you don't care about platform, Haswell Xeon E3 is a cheaper alternative, or you can just wait for Skylake Xeon series first before making decision.
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QUOTE(syahiirdaniel @ Nov 15 2015, 06:26 PM)
[Budget]3500-4000MYR

[Purpose]Hard gaming(csgo)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]csgo,starcraft 2,dota 2

[Personal preferences]would love to have a consistent 200(or more) fps for CS GO

[Location]Penang/KL
please help guys. thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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200 FPS for CS:GO? Not really useful unless you have a 200Hz monitor, disable V-Sync to get 200 FPS will also put stress on your GPU and heat it up pretty fast. And you get lots of screen tearing too.

Since the games you listed aren't graphics demanding, I'll include a mid end GPU + 144Hz monitor since your budget can fit it.

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 499
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 819
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz - RM 1099

Total: RM 3625 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You can switch to dual fan GTX960 at RM 840 or upgrade to i5 6400 at RM 809 if you wish.
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QUOTE(deadboy 164 @ Nov 15 2015, 09:24 PM)
[Budget] Below RM 1000

[Purpose] Casual use for web surfing or watch movie. No gaming, no rendering

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] Not needed

[Games & softwares that use frequently] None

[Personal preferences] None

[Location] Cheras

Thank you sifus. smile.gif
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Intel Pentium G3250 - RM 235
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
AVF Extremo 161 (with PSU) - RM 98

Total: RM 996 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(ncode @ Nov 16 2015, 01:56 AM)
Hi experts,

I want to put my rig in Fractal Design Node 304 case. Please recommend upgrade and/or would change to mini ITX mobo alone make more sense?

Current rig:
Intel Core i5 3470
ASUS P8B75M-LE
Kingston DDR3 dual 8GB
MSI RADEON R7770
FSP Hexa 500W

[Budget] 2-3k if optimized

[Purpose] movies, music, browsing, streaming video, downloading

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 3 HDD, 1 SSD, monitor, keyboard, mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2 sometimes

[Personal preferences] Fractal Design Node 304 case and a second DELL U2414H monitor

[Location] KL

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LGA 1155 new mITX mobo is very hard to find now, I'll just recommend a new platform to you instead.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 822
Gigabyte H170N-WiFi - RM 575
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 269
Fractal Design Node 304 - RM 369
Dell U2414H - RM 1025

Total: RM 3060 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

To reduce cost, downgrade to Haswell (4th gen), this can save you roughly RM 500 since you can reuse your DDR3 RAM and Haswell mITX mobo is cheaper.

Edit: typo on socket number doh.gif

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Nov 16 2015, 12:18 PM)
'sup guys

need a slapdash part recommend for :
[Budget] 3k-3.5k (without monitor)

[Purpose] 1080p gaming (not aiming 4k lelz) photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 4 HDD (2tb each)

[Personal preferences] Gtx 970

is it advisable to get Win10 home version?
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 889
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 ZT-90101-10P - RM 1479
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 3351 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You don't have OS to reuse? If yes, then it is up to you whether to get Windows 10, some people hate every Windows version after Windows 7, if you aren't a hater, get it then for the sake of DX12 laugh.gif

Windows license key price is different everywhere, so you might have to find the cheapest alternative yourself, but I think Windows 10 Home version license key should be around RM 300 range if you get from official channel, or you can just buy Windows 7 key and upgrade to Windows 10 for free, this might be cheaper than getting a Windows 10 license key (able to reuse the Windows 7 key to activate Windows 10 starting from TH2 version 1511 update).

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Nov 16 2015, 01:49 PM)
thx for the write-up mannng

btw i was looking to get a new monitor

my current samsung LED is kidna thrashy color wise

i've been googling around monitor which are good for gaming/photoshop but most of the models are not readily available over here
got any recommendations

budget around 1.5k...
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If you want good color gamut,

Dell U2414H (1080p) covers 96% sRGB, around RM 1050.

Dell U2515H (1440p) covers 99% sRGB, around RM 1480.
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QUOTE(ncode @ Nov 16 2015, 02:13 PM)
Thanks terrence. I might change PSU as well. Any recommendation?

@all, anyone interested with my old rig stuffs do let me know.
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Your PSU is fine to reuse, if you really want to change to a better quality PSU, you can consider Seasonic M12II EVO 520W/620W for fully modular cables or S12II 520W/620W for non modular cables, price is around RM 300 - RM 400 depending on the model you are getting.
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QUOTE(hikaruact2 @ Nov 16 2015, 02:18 PM)
Hi guys,

[Budget] 2.5k - 3k

[Purpose] Gaming, Programming, Movies, Downloading, light Photo Editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse, Power Supply (750W), Asus R9 270x, 1TB HDD, Thermaltake Armor Revo, 8GB Value DDR3 RAM

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080 (23")

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, Assassin's Creed, Football Manager, COD, Visual Studio, Photoshop

[Personal preferences] Intel Skylake or Haswell

[Location] Penang

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So it seems like you need new CPU + mobo + RAM (if change to DDR4) only right?

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 889
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 579
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246

Total: RM 1714 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you don't mind mATX board (less PCI-E slots), you can consider MSI B150M Bazooka D4 (RM 409).

You can also upgrade to i7 6700 if you wish, price is around RM 1400 and add a 250GB SSD, around RM 400+/-.
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QUOTE(benblitz @ Nov 16 2015, 02:52 PM)
Hi guys. Need your opinion on my entry gaming build, based on digitalfoundry suggestion from their i3-6100 video review. This RIG will be used mainly for CAD Software and gaming (Witcher 3, Dragon Age etc.) I'm aiming for 1080p, no insane dual monitor 4K gaming etc for now, in fact I'm going to use my 1440x900 monitor for now. Below are the parts that I'm going to go with with justification.

NZXT S340 RM330 (Mainly for cosmetic purpose, also the space is sufficient in case I wanted to add some fans or watercooling my cpu)

MSI Z170A GAMING PRO RM695 (I got this recommendation from digitalfoundry article, from what I read its better to opt for z170 for some future proofing with skylake build and in case I wanted to SLI or upgrade my CPU)

Core i3-6100 RM500 (The performance are really good for entry gaming and when paired with 2666 speed RAM. also from digitalfoundry)

NH-L9I L TYPE LP CPU COOLER RM185 (Stock fan are loud)

KINGSTON D4 HYPER FURY 2666 (2x4GB) RM300 (For CAD software, I need the extra RAM and the 2666 is from digitalfoundry article as well)

MSI GTX950 2GD5 OC RM801 (price performance ratio, also from articles, I'm open for alternative but would prefer nvidia)

WD BLUE 1TB RM212

CM B500 500W 80PLUS POWER RM269 (This is where I think I could cut a little bit more, but I'm no expert, need input on this)

Total: RM3292

If it matters, you can refer to here for the digitalfoundry reference article.

Really appreciate your input. Thank you!
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Just a few suggestions based on what you get from DigitalFoundry.

First, their price is much different than what our market is currently offering, so you can't directly compare the specs and the price.

You are going to get an i3 and pair it with a Z170 mobo with the reason of SLI and upgrade CPU, well technically this is ok, but if you run SLI with an i3, bottleneck will most likely to occur, this forces you to change the CPU to either i5 or i7, which indirectly increases the cost of upgrade. What I suggest is go for i5 and H170/B150 mobo, SLI is something totally different, you need a SLI capable PSU as well which you don't have in your current build, and GTX950 SLI is totally not worth the money, better get a more powerful GPU, not to mention SLI requires SLI profile support from both games developers and nvidia, if no SLI profile from nvidia, this will set you back to single card.

GTX950 is not worth to get, you can get Zotac GTX960 by just topping up RM 20 and the performance is almost twice of GTX950 (mostly 1.5x).


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QUOTE(millenius @ Nov 16 2015, 03:17 PM)
Hi guys, I would like recommendation for building a gaming rig.

[Budget]
RM3k-4k

[Purpose]
Gaming (mid-high graphics, enough to maintain ~60 fps on 1080p)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Mouse, keyboard.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] LoL, Dota2, CS:GO

[Personal preferences]
mITX case, specifically Fractal Node 304.
i5 instead of i7. Skylake or Haswell doesnt matter, whichever is the cheapest.
A 60Hz 1080p monitor.

[Location] KL
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Since you don't mind Haswell or Skylake, I'll go with Haswell since it is cheaper and the GPU suggestion is purely based on your games you most played.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 799
ASRock H97M-ITX/ac - RM 369
GSKill NT 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 209
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 939
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Fractal Design Node 304 - RM 349
BenQ GL2460 - RM 539

Total: RM 3622 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

If you want to max out your budget, you can upgrade to either GTX970 or add a 250GB SSD or get an IPS monitor.
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QUOTE(millenius @ Nov 16 2015, 03:47 PM)
Thanks. Its my first time building an ITX rig, was wondering does the PSU fit into the rig ? Also, how much of an increase if I were to opt for GTX 970 ?
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Can fit but since it is a non modular PSU, you might have clearance issue, suggest you to top up to get a modular PSU like Seasonic M12II EVO 620W (RM 409), cable management is much easier.

The cheapest GTX970 from Idealtech is Palit GTX970 Reference at RM 1579, a bit pricey, if you can travel to Lowyat Plaza/Techview(PJ)/ETech(Kepong), very high chance you can get a cheaper quote.
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QUOTE(millenius @ Nov 16 2015, 04:40 PM)
Thanks. Lastly a few questions, what would you suggest for an AMD equivalent of GTX970 or GTX960 ? If by using AMD gc, how would it effect the above build ? can it still fit ?
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If change to AMD, you need a more decent PSU than the currently suggested FSP Hexa+ 550W (you can switch to the Seasonic 620W I suggested above) because AMD card is power hungry, not recommended to run on low wattage PSU.

AMD R9 390 = GTX 970
AMD R9 380 = GTX 960

The question of fit or not fit is solely depends on the model you get, different brands have different lengths.
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QUOTE(face @ Nov 16 2015, 05:00 PM)
Sry guys need help , the rig I build is over budget .. Should I go for value ram instead of gaming ram for dd4 ? Is just for gaming and adobe n web building ..
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Nov 16 2015, 05:18 PM)
Budget] 1.5k (without monitor)

[Purpose] AAA gaming (fallout 4, SW: Battlefront etc)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] hdds, ssd and gpu (HD5850, will try and upgrade later)

[Personal preferences] none, just trying to get new mobo, proc, and ram
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 889
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246

Total: RM 1544 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(face @ Nov 16 2015, 05:29 PM)
INTEL CORE I7 6700K (4 CORE/ 8 THREADS/4.2GHZ 1569
MSI B150M BAZOOKA 399
KINGSTON HYPER X 8GB DDR4 2400mhz 289
Seasonic 620w s12ii 209
Deepcool tesseract 139
WD  2TB  7200RPM/64MB 316
ADATA 120GB SP900 229
Deepcool 120T 279

Anything I can adjust ? Just the ram right ?
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Are you going to overclock?

You paired an unlocked i7 6700K with a B150 mobo which doesn't make sense hmm.gif
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QUOTE(face @ Nov 16 2015, 06:11 PM)
Not going to overclock .. Seller everywhere no stock for non k.. Forced to take k that's why over budget :0
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Oh ok, you can just drop the water cooler and go for a cheaper air cooler like CM Hyper 212X (~RM 160) since you aren't going to overclock.
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QUOTE(lolful @ Nov 16 2015, 08:36 PM)
Hey,i am planning to build a computer from scratch, discontinuing the laptop tradition of my family haha. My budgt would be around RM3 500, as i posted last week for gaming and casual school use (Interested in Fallout)

I will reuse my mouse only,so aside from the rig i need a monitor too.

I would like an Intel chipset, Nvidia Card and a 1080p monitor, not to mention a SSD for super fast bootup speeds. Also is it possible to use Windows Product key from my laptop to use on this new rig?

Thanks in advance
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 246
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90306-10M - RM 840
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
BenQ GW2255 - RM 390

Total: RM 3476 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Laptop Windows license key is OEM key, not transferable, you need a new key to activate Windows (not included in the build).
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QUOTE(kaai @ Nov 17 2015, 08:38 AM)
hi sifus,
can you guys recommend me the minimum spec rig for cs go and dota? it doesnt need to be high quality, as long i can play comfortably without any fps drop.
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Err you didn't state acceptable budget range so I'll start with 1.5k then.

Intel Pentium G3250 - RM 235
Asus H81M-K - RM 240
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 209
Gainward GT730 1GB GDDR5 - RM 249
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 1452 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

G3250 + GT730 should be able to let you run Dota 2 and CS:GO at probably medium settings at 60 FPS, lower down the settings more if you want consistent 60 FPS since you don't mind graphics settings.
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QUOTE(areza01 @ Nov 17 2015, 05:02 PM)
Hi sifus

My son plays FPS like TF2 and he also renders and records videos.  Is it possible to setup a good rig which he can play TF2 at high FPS and no lag for RM2K?  Room for future upgrades if possible too.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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I assume you already have a monitor to reuse.

TF2 as in Team Fortress 2 right? If yes, then 2k budget is able to build a rig to run it, the system requirements for TF2 is quite low. But for video rendering/editing part, quad core CPU (i5 and above) is recommended, it will still render/run on dual core (i3 or Pentium G), but it will take longer time to complete the task.

I am afraid that your budget might not be able to fit an i5, if you try to squeeze in i5, you end up with low end GPU, which is still possible to run TF2 at high FPS, but probably at low settings, if your son is ok with this then I'll go on.



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