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terence_nwb
post Jan 19 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 19 2016, 03:48 PM)
Hi guys! Please recommend a rig configuration based on these info.

[Budget] Rm3000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse and HDD

[Monitor resolution] 720p and higher

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Starcraft2, Diablo 3, Fallout 4 (Would like to run those on the highest setting.)

[Personal preferences]

Processor: Intel Core i5 6500
Motherboard: I dont foresee myself using SLI or Crossfire so these feature will not be needed. Would prefer a robust mobo which is durable with 4 slots for RAM.
GPU: Mid range value for money GPU. Will consider spending more for a GPU with higher performance.
Chasis: ATX
PSU: Durable and future-proof for upgrading

[Location] Sabah

Thanks in advance. biggrin.gif
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Highest settings in Fallout 4 will not provide a very good gaming experience due to unstable FPS, unless you disable or tune down some of the costly settings like God-rays and shadow distance quality.

BTW 3k cannot get you a i5 + GTX970 nowadays and it will set you back to GTX960/R9 380 only.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 529
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Asus GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 949
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 2960 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

If you are willing to spend more, you can swap the GPU to GTX970, the cheapest GTX970 is Palit reference card (a.k.a Single Fan model), RM 1399.

The mobo can be downgraded to mATX mobo with 4 RAM slots like Gigabyte B150M-D3H, RM 439 to save some money, case can remain the same (or choose other case you prefer) since it can fit mATX also.

As for PSU, to get something durable and future proof, you can consider Seasonic M12II EVO 620W or Leadex Silver 650W, RM 409 and RM 399 respectively, so when you opt for high end card, you don't have to change it.

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post Jan 19 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jan 19 2016, 10:23 AM)
LOL  laugh.gif

I have no idea why they put DisplayPort instead of HDMI in a low end card, well a DVI to HDMI converter will just do the job fine (less than RM 20 only).
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I'm guessing it's because displayports are royalty free. Meaning manufacturers does not have to pay anything to implement the standard. wink.gif
"VESA who has created the DisplayPort standard states the standard is royalty free to implement." - Wikipedia
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post Jan 19 2016, 07:04 PM

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Hi Guys,

Can suggest a spec for RM1.5k max budget ?

Basically pc use to do office work...database farm...will stay on 24/7..

Some entertainment sometime just 1080 hd movie and Dota2 over weekend.. blush.gif

Can help me sort it out ? Budget excluding monitor since I have few monitor already..Dvi output..


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post Jan 19 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jan 18 2016, 11:21 PM)
Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 832
MSI H110M Pro-VH - RM 326
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 212
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 815
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 218
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 211
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 117
Acer K242HLB - RM 482

Total: RM 3213 (Cycom price inclusive of GST)
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Thx a lot rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jan 19 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(msafwan1773 @ Jan 19 2016, 07:04 PM)
Hi Guys,

Can suggest a spec for RM1.5k max budget ?

Basically pc use to do office work...database farm...will stay on 24/7..

Some entertainment sometime just 1080 hd movie and Dota2 over weekend.. blush.gif

Can help me sort it out ? Budget excluding monitor since I have few monitor already..Dvi output..
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I36300 RM649
MSI H110M PRO VH RM329
CORSAIR 8GB RAM DDR4 RM200
1TB WD RM215
STANDARD CASE+PSU COMBO RM150

RM1543

*mobo come with hdmi n vga, so u have to use converter

This post has been edited by mod_po: Jan 19 2016, 09:42 PM
ikan_semilang
post Jan 20 2016, 08:00 AM

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Hi, this system is bottleneck?

Intel Skylake Core i7-6700 - RM1383
Asus Maximus VIII Ranger - RM999
Avexir Core Series 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 2400mhz - RM488
Asus Nvidia GTX750 TI OC 2GB GDDR5 128BIT - RM689

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post Jan 20 2016, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jan 19 2016, 05:28 PM)
Highest settings in Fallout 4 will not provide a very good gaming experience due to unstable FPS, unless you disable or tune down some of the costly settings like God-rays and shadow distance quality.

BTW 3k cannot get you a i5 + GTX970 nowadays and it will set you back to GTX960/R9 380 only.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 529
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Asus GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 949
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 2960 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

If you are willing to spend more, you can swap the GPU to GTX970, the cheapest GTX970 is Palit reference card (a.k.a Single Fan model), RM 1399.

The mobo can be downgraded to mATX mobo with 4 RAM slots like Gigabyte B150M-D3H, RM 439 to save some money, case can remain the same (or choose other case you prefer) since it can fit mATX also.

As for PSU, to get something durable and future proof, you can consider Seasonic M12II EVO 620W or Leadex Silver 650W, RM 409 and RM 399 respectively, so when you opt for high end card, you don't have to change it.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. Does that mean that if i were to increase my budget to RM3500 I can get a i5 6500 + GTX970 setup? By the way, what is the difference between the Gigabyte H170-HD3 and B150M-D3H?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 20 2016, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 20 2016, 08:00 AM)
Hi, this system is bottleneck?

Intel Skylake Core i7-6700 - RM1383
Asus Maximus VIII Ranger - RM999
Avexir Core Series 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 2400mhz - RM488
Asus Nvidia GTX750 TI OC 2GB GDDR5 128BIT - RM689
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No issue just GPU is not high end, if no heavy gaming and only play MOBA like Dota 2, LoL then everything is fine.

But you don't need that expensive mobo if you aren't going for overclocking build.

QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 20 2016, 08:47 AM)
Thanks for the prompt reply. Does that mean that if i were to increase my budget to RM3500 I can get a i5 6500 + GTX970 setup? By the way, what is the difference between the Gigabyte H170-HD3 and B150M-D3H?

Thanks in advance.
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Yes possible with 3.5k.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 529
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 3410 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

H170-HD3 is ATX mobo, more PCI-E slots while B150M-D3H is mATX mobo, lesser PCI-E slots.
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post Jan 20 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jan 20 2016, 09:56 AM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte H170-HD3 - RM 529
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 3410 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

H170-HD3 is ATX mobo, more PCI-E slots while B150M-D3H is mATX mobo, lesser PCI-E slots.
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Thanks again bro,

This is what i have in mind at the moment.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte B150M-D3H - RM 439
GSKill NT 8GBx2 DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 489
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149
WD 1TB HDD - RM 219

What will be the bottleneck for this setup? Is the 16GB RAM a bit overkill here?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 20 2016, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jan 20 2016, 10:21 AM)
Thanks again bro,

This is what i have in mind at the moment.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
Gigabyte B150M-D3H - RM 439
GSKill NT 8GBx2 DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 489
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149
WD 1TB HDD - RM 219

What will be the bottleneck for this setup? Is the 16GB RAM a bit overkill here?

Thanks in advance.
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Nope, it fits perfectly, for normal usage and gaming, no issue, but if the game is really CPU demanding then you might see some CPU bottlenecks, mainly AC: Syndicate and Crysis 3 where you can see 100% CPU usage most of the time, but you don't really have to care too much because frame rate is still quite decent and playable.

If you have extra RM 250 that you can fork out for another 8GB RAM then go ahead, if budget is tight then better don't, you won't see any improvement if the software/games you use don't use > 8GB RAM, spending the RM 250 in SSD is a much wiser choice.
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post Jan 20 2016, 11:43 AM

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Hi guys! Please recommend a rig configuration based on these info.

[Budget] Rm3000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse

[Monitor resolution] 720p and higher

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 Diablo 3

[Personal preferences]
Maybe inlcude some cooling


[Location] KL

Thanks in advance.

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post Jan 20 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(leokj @ Jan 20 2016, 11:43 AM)
Hi guys! Please recommend a rig configuration based on these info.

[Budget] Rm3000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse

[Monitor resolution] 720p and higher

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2 Diablo 3

[Personal preferences]
Maybe inlcude some cooling
[Location] KL

Thanks in advance.
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 828
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 399
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 AMP - RM 899
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 180

Total: RM 2910 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Top up some money for SSD if you want.

As for cooling, you can rely on stock cooler for the CPU cooling and the case comes with 1 exhaust fan, you can add 2 intake fans for better airflow.
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post Jan 20 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(mod_po @ Jan 19 2016, 09:40 PM)
I36300 RM649
MSI H110M PRO VH RM329
CORSAIR 8GB RAM DDR4 RM200
1TB WD RM215
STANDARD CASE+PSU COMBO RM150

RM1543

*mobo come with hdmi n vga, so u have to use converter
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Thx bro..

btw..is it on board graphic is enough to handle Dota 2 ?

sorry n00bies here... blush.gif
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QUOTE(msafwan1773 @ Jan 20 2016, 02:19 PM)
Thx bro..

btw..is it on board graphic is enough to handle Dota 2 ?

sorry n00bies here... blush.gif
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actually i tried with my old 2700k onboard graphic
its actually smoothly running dota at default setting
and i won the game..
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jan 20 2016, 02:33 PM)
actually i tried with my old 2700k onboard graphic
its actually smoothly running dota at default setting
and i won the game..
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hahaha how about the max setting for dota 2 ?

what is the requirement ? previously my 8600gt can get it to max, but a bit laggy when clash..

since I left those hardware update nowadays, I dont have any idea what and which gfx I can choose and affordable hmm.gif
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QUOTE(msafwan1773 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:07 PM)
hahaha how about the max setting for dota 2 ?

what is the requirement ? previously my 8600gt can get it to max, but a bit laggy when clash..

since I left those hardware update nowadays, I dont have any idea what and which gfx I can choose and affordable  hmm.gif
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Skylake desktop CPU comes with Intel HD 530 which is almost equivalent to GT 730 (GDDR5 version), so you should be expecting it to run max settings at around 40 FPS-ish, to get stable 60 FPS, medium settings will do.

Due to low budget, you can either pick i3 + no dedicated GPU or Pentium + low end dedicated GPU.

You will benefit from i3 if your database farming/mining workload is heavy or it is multicore enabled.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Jan 20 2016, 03:38 PM)
Skylake desktop CPU comes with Intel HD 530 which is almost equivalent to GT 730 (GDDR5 version), so you should be expecting it to run max settings at around 40 FPS-ish, to get stable 60 FPS, medium settings will do.

Due to low budget, you can either pick i3 + no dedicated GPU or Pentium + low end dedicated GPU.

You will benefit from i3 if your database farming/mining workload is heavy or it is multicore enabled.
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Thanks for the explanation. smile.gif I think I will prefer i3 + dedicated GPU..

Which one do you suggest if let say my budget is 400 below..?
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QUOTE(msafwan1773 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:42 PM)
Thanks for the explanation.  smile.gif  I think I will prefer i3 + dedicated GPU..

Which one do you suggest if let say my budget is 400 below..?
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i3 + dedicated GPU will require more budget.

New GPU below RM 400 (R7 250X, GT 730/740) is not worth to get because the performance will be almost similar to Skylake iGPU.
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QUOTE(msafwan1773 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:07 PM)
hahaha how about the max setting for dota 2 ?

what is the requirement ? previously my 8600gt can get it to max, but a bit laggy when clash..

since I left those hardware update nowadays, I dont have any idea what and which gfx I can choose and affordable  hmm.gif
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max setting for dota 2 average around 40fps on my many years old GTX 460 1GB
1080 reso

running @ 2k reso kinda not as smooth but not laggy till unplayable
but hell.. like people said
once 2k never want to go back to 1080p anymore
guess i need another card

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