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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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Xypheria
post Dec 1 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 11:21 AM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1349
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 579
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 400
Gigabyte GTX960 4GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1019
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD - RM 399
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 349
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 4653 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Since the price of this GTX960 is over 1k, you can consider the R9 380/R9 380X 4GB, price is around the same but it is slightly faster than GTX960 in terms of raw performance. Or alternatively you can add RM 500 for MSI Tiger GTX970, almost twice the performance of GTX960.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
I got an offer for RM 950 for the gpu if i buy in one go.
Or is it better to invest on 970 straight away until 2-3 years?

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post Dec 1 2015, 11:34 AM

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[Budget] 1-1.5k

[Purpose] Word, Powerpoint, Excel, Browsing, Youtube, Very Occasionally Movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor Only

[Monitor resolution] Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] No games, softwares such as Word, Powerpoint, Excel, Browsing, Youtube, Very Occasionally Movie

[Personal preferences] Value buy and long lasting.

[Location] KL
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post Dec 1 2015, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Dec 1 2015, 11:32 AM)
Thanks for the suggestion.
I got an offer for RM 950 for the gpu if i buy in one go.
Or is it better to invest on 970 straight away until 2-3 years?
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GTX970 is more future proof, it is the hottest GPU right now for 1080p gaming.

If you don't plan to play any triple A titles now or in the future, GTX960 is enough for MMORPG (if I recall correctly you are playing online MMORPG right?) now.
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post Dec 1 2015, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Dec 1 2015, 11:34 AM)
[Budget] 1-1.5k

[Purpose] Word, Powerpoint, Excel, Browsing, Youtube, Very Occasionally Movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor Only

[Monitor resolution] Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] No games, softwares such as Word, Powerpoint, Excel, Browsing, Youtube, Very Occasionally Movie

[Personal preferences] Value buy and long lasting.

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 479
ASRock H81M-VG4 - RM 219
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 189
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 129
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 159 (Estimated)

Total: RM 1394 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

You can get any cheap case to reduce the cost but not recommended to get those cases which come with PSU (crappy quality), better to invest in a standalone & decent PSU which can last longer like what I suggested above.
Xypheria
post Dec 1 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 11:40 AM)
GTX970 is more future proof, it is the hottest GPU right now for 1080p gaming.

If you don't plan to play any triple A titles now or in the future, GTX960 is enough for MMORPG (if I recall correctly you are playing online MMORPG right?) now.
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Well, seeing sales in steam and origin really make me want to buy some AAA games biggrin.gif.
Yup im more to MMORPG
Guess i will go for the gtx970. Less hassle to upgrade anytime soon.

Do you recommend of using GPU cooler? Is that the proper name? tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Xypheria: Dec 1 2015, 12:15 PM
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post Dec 1 2015, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 11:46 AM)
Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 479
ASRock H81M-VG4 - RM 219
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 189
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 129
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 159 (Estimated)

Total: RM 1394 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

You can get any cheap case to reduce the cost but not recommended to get those cases which come with PSU (crappy quality), better to invest in a standalone & decent PSU which can last longer like what I suggested above.
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Thank you for your recommendation bro ..
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post Dec 1 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 11:03 AM)
Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 510
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 WinFast - RM 485
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
BenQ GW2255 - RM 390

Total: RM 2557 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you accept old gen CPU (Haswell 4th gen), then you can get i5 with some top up (around RM 100+), performance difference between Haswell and Skylake (6th gen) is not huge, but Haswell i5 (quad core quad thread) is definitely the clear winner here if compared to Skylake i3 (dual core quad thread), i5 is faster for AutoCAD too.

Add roughly RM 50+ for Logitech Keyboard + Mouse combo if you need it.
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Thanks. I can accept i5 with some top up, how about the GTX 750? Is it good enough? Or I should increase the budget for better graphic card?
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 2 2015, 09:19 PM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1350
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 3062 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You can top up another RM 130 to get a non-reference GTX970 (Zotac is the cheapest from Techview) which runs cooler than reference card.
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Hey its me again given additional budget of RM500 / RM1000 will be it better to add more ram/ssd/hdd ?
can list down another build for RM3500 VS RM4000 thanks!

as per previous post

[Purpose] Gaming + Freelance Video Editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD 1TB Black / PSU (Silverstone ST70EF) / Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Most of the adobes / Various genres of games from dota, dayz, arma, h1z1, team fortress 2, fallout

[Personal preferences] Need no OC. Regarding GPU dont think 2gb VRAM is enough nowadays ?

Nvidia + Intel please. Air con room.

[Location] Selangor

This post has been edited by mothangel: Dec 1 2015, 01:30 PM
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Xypheria @ Dec 1 2015, 12:15 PM)
Well, seeing sales in steam and origin really make me want to buy some AAA games biggrin.gif.
Yup im more to MMORPG
Guess i will go for the gtx970. Less hassle to upgrade anytime soon.

Do you recommend of using GPU cooler? Is that the proper name? tongue.gif
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If you plan to use GPU cooler i.e. Kraken G10 with AIO water cooler (not included in the G10), then just get the cheapest reference card because you will remove the default cooler of the GPU, so it is just a waste to buy those expensive aftermarket cooler equipped GPU.

QUOTE(Yveatel @ Dec 1 2015, 12:59 PM)
Thanks. I can accept  i5 with some top up, how about the GTX 750? Is it good enough? Or I should increase the budget for better graphic card?
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Based on your frequently used/played games, it is enough unless you are planning to play latest triple A titles at high settings.

This post has been edited by terence_nwb: Dec 1 2015, 01:30 PM
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 01:29 PM)
If you plan to use GPU cooler i.e. Kraken G10 with AIO water cooler (not included in the G10), then just get the cheapest reference card because you will remove the default cooler of the GPU, so it is just a waste to buy those expensive aftermarket cooler equipped GPU.
Based on your frequently used/played games, it is enough unless you are planning to play latest triple A titles at high settings.
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Ah, so cooling can do some other time?
Then i dont need to oc the gpu yet..or can i? (sorry inexperience question)
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post Dec 1 2015, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Dec 1 2015, 01:26 PM)
Hey its me again given additional budget of RM500 / RM1000 will be it better to add more ram/ssd/hdd ?
can list down another build for RM3500 VS RM4000 thanks!

as per previous post

[Purpose] Gaming + Freelance Video Editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD 1TB Black / PSU (Silverstone ST70EF) / Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Most of the adobes / Various genres of games from dota, dayz, arma, h1z1, team fortress 2, fallout

[Personal preferences] Need no OC. Regarding GPU dont think 2gb VRAM is enough nowadays ?

Nvidia + Intel please. Air con room.

[Location] Selangor
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1349
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 400
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 ZT-90101-10P - RM 1479
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 4015 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

For 3.5k build, you can:
1. Remove SSD + 8GB RAM
2. Downgrade to i5 6500

QUOTE(Xypheria @ Dec 1 2015, 01:43 PM)
Ah, so cooling can do some other time?
Then i dont need to oc the gpu yet..or can i? (sorry inexperience question)
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Don't need aftermarket cooler so soon I think, Gigabyte Windforce does the cooling job pretty good, I am using the triple fan Windforce card, the temperature never hit > 70°C when no air cond, average 60°C when in air cond room.

You still can oc the GPU even with the stock cooler, but Gigabyte Windforce card comes with factory oc'd settings, so you don't really need to oc manually unless you really want to hit the max performance before the card throttles due to limit.
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post Dec 1 2015, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 11:46 AM)
Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 479
ASRock H81M-VG4 - RM 219
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 189
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 129
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 159 (Estimated)

Total: RM 1394 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

You can get any cheap case to reduce the cost but not recommended to get those cases which come with PSU (crappy quality), better to invest in a standalone & decent PSU which can last longer like what I suggested above.
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Hi Terence , I've been meaning to ask , let's say I would like to play Dota 2 .. What would u recommend? I just need it to be smooth. Dun mind adding a couple hundred smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 02:21 PM)
Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1349
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 400
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 ZT-90101-10P - RM 1479
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 4015 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

For 3.5k build, you can:
1. Remove SSD + 8GB RAM
2. Downgrade to i5 6500
Don't need aftermarket cooler so soon I think, Gigabyte Windforce does the cooling job pretty good, I am using the triple fan Windforce card, the temperature never hit > 70°C when no air cond, average 60°C when in air cond room.

You still can oc the GPU even with the stock cooler, but Gigabyte Windforce card comes with factory oc'd settings, so you don't really need to oc manually unless you really want to hit the max performance before the card throttles due to limit.
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I see. Thanks as always sifu!
I will go with the updated rig biggrin.gif

Cheers!

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post Dec 1 2015, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Dec 1 2015, 02:28 PM)
Hi Terence , I've been meaning to ask , let's say I would like to play Dota 2 .. What would u recommend? I just need it to be smooth. Dun mind adding a couple hundred smile.gif
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Add a dedicated GPU, if want to run on almost max settings at 60 FPS on 1080p, then you can add a GTX750 (< RM 500), PSU can be upgraded to 550W (RM 199) for extra headroom.
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post Dec 1 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 07:21 AM)
4K budget cannot fit i7 and GTX980 at the same time, need 4.5K at least (reuse your current RAM and SSD will be excluded).

Since you are going to reuse your DDR3 RAM, I'll go with Haswell build because using DDR3 RAM on Skylake mobo will damage the memory controller due to higher voltage according to reports, if you don't care/mind then go with it.

Intel Xeon E3 1231 V3 - RM 1149
MSI B85M-E45 - RM 334
Galax GTX970 4GB GDDR5 EXOC BLACK - RM 1599
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD - RM 379
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 4028 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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Hi Terence,

Thanks for the suggestion, I will inform my friend on the DDR3 ram issue smile.gif

Thanks for the help!
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post Dec 2 2015, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 1 2015, 01:29 PM)
Based on your frequently used/played games, it is enough unless you are planning to play latest triple A titles at high settings.
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Is the Skylake i5 6400 (RM 801) better than i5 4590 (RM 827)? Prices from Jayacom.
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post Dec 2 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Dec 2 2015, 09:21 AM)
Is the Skylake i5 6400 (RM 801) better than i5 4590 (RM 827)? Prices from Jayacom.
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In terms of raw performance, nope, i5 4590 is faster than i5 6400 due to higher clock speed.
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post Dec 2 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 2 2015, 09:22 AM)
In terms of raw performance, nope, i5 4590 is faster than i5 6400 due to higher clock speed.
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Thank you!! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 2 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Dec 2 2015, 09:24 AM)
Thank you!!  biggrin.gif
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But please take note i5 4590 is Haswell CPU and using LGA1150 socket while i5 6400 is Skylake CPU and using LGA1151 socket, so if you swap to i5 4590 please make sure you choose the correct mobo.
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Hey guys, if only for maximum gaming, do we need a i7 few core?

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