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TSHansel
post Jun 7 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 7 2020, 07:51 PM)
will see tmrw.

all asain bourses will likely shoot up at opening.

i will be up early. biggrin.gif
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I have another piece of ridiculous news,.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif The good Jobs Reprt released earlier had misclassification errors,... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

So,.. mkts may not shoot up tomorrow,.. now I'll be up early,...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/202...fication-error/
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post Jun 8 2020, 01:07 PM

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So many postings above,.. tq for replying bros,.. even if some of you hammered me in the above,...

Been busy whole morning with : VICOM ! SOLD VICOM AT $9.00, PROFIT AT 46.81% !
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post Jun 8 2020, 02:16 PM

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Bro,... to your input from the above :-

Hong Kong has lost out on rich people’s fresh funds to Singapore so far this year, existing deposits stay put, UBS says
Most of regions’ ultra-wealthy have asked private bankers at UBS to place new money in Singapore rather than Hong Kong, lender’s president says
https://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finan...funds-singapore

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SG MAS is denying that much of HK's funds have 'defected' to SG. The reports given by many press agencies are not accurate. Anyway,... I believe the SG govt.

And it's not too good in the eyes of the Chiinese Govt if HK's funds moved to SG. May trouble the strong bilateral relationship bet SG and China.
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post Jun 8 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 8 2020, 11:29 AM)
will see how much RM/SGD will move in the coming weeks or months.

msia borrowing to fight cov19; sg using savings/reserves.
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Hmm,... more borrowings. BNM might be decreasing interest rates again soon. Bad economic numbers to be reported in Jul/Aug for Q2. All are negative for our Ringgit Malaysia.
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post Jun 9 2020, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 8 2020, 06:57 PM)
ocbc close today 9.76, +3.4%.
dow futures +2xx.

tmr... looks like another winner day.

stock markets are ignoring covid19... gone or what?!!
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You are right again, bro,.... thumbup.gif

Not too much good news for me,... But I will tell myself greed is not a good quality. So long as I have bought and acted earlier,... that's all I can do. After all,... there is a saying,.. after we have crossed a certain threshold in life, everything extra is merely a number on our spreadsheets....


.....unless we wished to challenge among ourselves who is the best investor in this pandemic,... biggrin.gif

Edited by adding : When the next pandemic comes, we will know how to react already,....

This post has been edited by Hansel: Jun 9 2020, 11:52 AM
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post Jun 9 2020, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 8 2020, 03:53 PM)
Big news:

Sembcorp shake-up: https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...temasek-demerge

SCI and SCM shares halt from trading.

And Citi upgrades the banking troika to buy. TP for OCBC now at 10.85.

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...ets-on-v-shaped

On the other hand, Phillip Capital downgrades the banks to neutral.

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/br...certain-outlook

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Data from SGX suggests net inflow of institutional fund as of last week, reversing the outflow trend from the past 4 trading weeks. And for the first time in 4 weeks, retailers are net sellers.

https://www.sgx.com/research-education/data-reports
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Tqvm for the news and updates, bro,.... appreciated your effort here,...
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post Jun 10 2020, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 9 2020, 03:35 PM)
Milestone: CMT returns 20% and SATS returns 10% in less than 2 months. laugh.gif

Gonna open Maybank SG account tomorrow. Interest rate only 0.3% p.a. in SG. Alas, still better than nothing.
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Bro,... your motivation for opening an SG Acct shld not be for their FD,... you shld be thinking of investing into SG instruments, bro,...Whatever funds you port over from Msia to SG shld be 'allowed' to sit there for as short a duration as possible,.. you shld be pushing hard to be 'in the mkt', ie time in the mkt, not timing the mkt,.... biggrin.gif

But just asking,... have you invested into SG Shares during this pandemic ? You invested via Msian brokerages or via SG brokerages.
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post Jun 10 2020, 02:12 AM

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And as we speak,... the Ringgit has weakened again vs the SGD :-

https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/SGDMYR%3DX#...iJjaGFydCJ9fX19


Vs the Euro :-

https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/EURMYR%3DX#...iJjaGFydCJ9fX19

Vs the Thai Baht :-

https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/THBMYR%3DX#...nQifX19fQ%3D%3D

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post Jun 10 2020, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 10 2020, 07:19 AM)
unless foreign funds start to return in a major way, can expect continuous gradual RM weakening.

more so when the pressure to take more debt is ever increasing.
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That's what I thought too,.. but if BNM drops int rate further,... chances are lower, bro,...

Hmm, I got up early today because S&P and Dow closed early this morning,.. hoping mkt will open red,... but I see more greens today,...
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post Jun 10 2020, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 10 2020, 09:44 AM)
Don't worry, I know my own risk profile. The short term fund in my SG bank account is mainly to avoid IBKR earning interest on my money, yet not paying me. I want interest on my own dry powder, not going to let them flow into the hands of IBKR shareholders.

As for short-term duration, how short it is really depends on market conditions. When the fundamentals say it's overvalued, there is no reason I have to put more money into it, like you know, right now.

I will monitor my own profile from time to time. Rest assured.
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I should not have asked then,..
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post Jun 10 2020, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 10 2020, 09:25 AM)
will be green today.
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There are still gems out there, bro,... We just need to see where to dig.

STI has not broken 3k yet,... what do you think, bro,....
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post Jun 10 2020, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 10 2020, 06:23 PM)
this, i agree...
so... put all yr money on china-singapore! tongue.gif
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Maybe HSBC trying to 'tipu' us to pour in all of our money, bro,... if second wave comes, we die first,.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 10 2020, 02:47 PM)
Oh, missed your question. Was in a hurry to open my SG bank account this morning. Yes I invested back in late April, and portfolio return is around 7-8% to date.

I think I mentioned it somewhere in the past (maybe in S-REIT thread).

OCBC, SATS. Ascendas, CMT, KDC REIT and Parkway LIFE. All in green as of now.

By the way, SG bank account application submitted! biggrin.gif
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Tq bro,... and congrats first on everything you have achieved,..

Just asking,... you entered NEW into those ctrs during this pandemic,... or you averaged down which means you were earlier holding one or more of those ctrs before the start of the pandemic. Just wanting to test a theory of mine.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 10 2020, 12:37 PM)
yes, i do think there is v good upside in SGX.

but as lazy as i am usually, i am content with just 3 counters. biggrin.gif

not checking or planning a 4th one as this time.
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What are the three ctrs, bro,... share a bit please,...
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post Jun 11 2020, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 10 2020, 09:56 PM)
dbs, ocbc, sia.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 10 2020, 10:22 PM)
Whoa. What kind of theory?

I am a very new investor directly in stock market, just opened my IBKR brokerage account back in early April, hastily transferred funds from my HK bank account, converted to SGD and ventured into SG blue chips. Valuations were cheap back then. I have done my due diligence before this, aiming for undervalued counters. My efforts for OCBC and CMT has paid off apparently, judging from the current return, although the magnitude is kind of scary.

I have never hold any counters (didn't even have any brokerage account) before April. I was late to the party apparently, since the panic sell down was in March. But I did one thing right, averaged down my Manulife AP REIT fund substantially in March. Milestone: All constituents in my portfolio is green today for the first time since last year, Manulife AP REIT finally in positive territory since March!

Before April, I only had holdings in 2 mutual funds (bought from FSM), ASNB FP funds and EPF. And my holdings were like 45% equities, 45% fixed income and 10% cash. Today (After venturing into SG markets) my portfolio is like 60-65% equities, 30-35% fixed income and 10% cash. For equity holdings, about half in M'sia and about half in SG. The rest in developing and developed markets of Asia, Europe and the US. 

So, is your theory proven? tongue.gif
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Yes,... I have some light with my theory,...

You have never been in the SG mkt before this crash, THEN you entered upon the crash back in Mar 23rd... hence, you don't have to think too much abt averaging-down. Whatever you bought has a very high chance of turning green when the graph turns. Entering fresh upon a crash is the holy grail of it all. How I hoped I had this position.

You had Manulife AP REIT in our portfolio which you bought much earlier and when the crash came, your unit trust (ut) dropped into the red. You decided to average down after doing your analysis. You were proven right ! Now, this ut is also in the green.

Your ASNB FP - no issue,..fixed-price,... provided nothing happens to the political landscape of Msia.

EPF - no issue too,... similar consideration as per the ASNB FP fund above.

Entering fresh at THE RIGHT TIME has its merits,... and reduces a lot of work and risks - this is my theory.

How abt the other 2 mutual funds ? Are they still in the red,... or you have averaged down too ?

Bro AV,... tq,... I just bought those three,.... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 11 2020, 05:05 PM

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I will comment that for FSM SG,... one thing abt it is the transferring in and out is costly IF you are not doing FAST. Then when you do convert into or away from the SGD, the exchange rate is costly.

However,... if you have no other choices at hand,... then FSM is the easiest acct to open in.
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post Jun 11 2020, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 11 2020, 12:47 PM)
All in green, but looking at the sell-off today, should fall back into red territory when the NAV price is released tomorrow.
Wait lah. Be patient. I have 40 years of compounding interests. It's not like I am retiring tomorrow. Need to do homework mah. laugh.gif

MCT has significant exposure to vivocity, portfolio concentration risk is there. But the Sentosa-Brani masterplan should do good to the area for the long run.

Will look into euro and USD area soon.
Same thought. As said earlier, higher yields mean higher risks. It makes no sense to buy if OCBC and DBS pays me the same 5-6% yield yet I am comfortable with it. At least OCBC is more popular (more liquid, talk about liquidity risk) and established compared to WPC. 

Currently looking into JNJ and MSFT for long haul capital gains.

EDIT: Just check-up WPC, looks okay. Very long WALE, recently converted into REIT in 2012, BBB grade, long debt maturity. Good investment target, but need to consider after-tax yield and currency risk. May not be suitable for investors who seek more exposure in emerging markets.
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Tq bro,...

Did you average down for the 2 mutual funds,... or you left them as there were for them to climb back beyond the trough price on their own ? Not talking abt today here.

Then, as for today,.. I am taking this opportunity to observe which of my ctrs will drop into the red, and which ctrs for which I averaged-down on earlier continue to hold-up in the green,... some observations there again. As we speak,... mkt just closed,... I am slightly down from yesterday,... overall portfolio stands at 24.53% green at close today.

I am vested onto international mkts too,... all I can say is I still find the SGD worthy to hold as a medium of investment,... earning the SGD is stable enough if I wished to convert into any other currencies for use in the world. I use the SGD as a proxy to convert out into other currencies when I need to use them.
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post Jun 11 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 11 2020, 12:20 PM)
But 30% WHT. Not much is left after the cut unless you take into consideration the capital gain.
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I suspect the bro is aiming for dpu increase. Similar to investing into DBS,... we hoped for dpu increase.
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post Jun 12 2020, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 11 2020, 05:41 PM)
For mutual funds, I opted for DCA last year, then began very simple market timing (buy when BOTH SG and HK REITs are in red) towards the end of last year. I stopped investing into my mutual funds around last year as I moved some of my money to EPF and ASNB FP fund. I then averaged down around March this year. So, basically I only average down this March for my mutual funds. The rest of time, let the market force determine the fate.

For the more observant, you would probably notice that KDC finished up green. The only REIT in green today! I have noticed that this counter is highly negatively correlated to the main market, at least in the past sessions. Claimed by many as over-valued, this counter's surge probably suggests that markets are pricing into a second-wave. Traders can consider looking into this.   

EDIT: If you know understand Mandarin, https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/content_2287753.html is perhaps one evidence supporting my thoughts.
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... which means you have DCA-ed correctly and adequately into a level that will help turn the 2 mutual funds green when the mkt picks up. This is good.

Yes, KDC REIT closed green today at 0.8% up. I have in my watchlist one more ctr that kept green at close today - Accordia Golf Trust. As to your observation abt KDCR,... hmm,... I have nticed there are times,.. KDCR moved in tandem with the mkt,... But,.. I obserced one ctr that has a higher chance of being negatively-correlated - O87, GLD US$.

I think we know the main reason why O87 is inversely-correlated.
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post Jun 12 2020, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 12 2020, 12:07 AM)
is cromwell euro reit good time to go in?
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At last count. the nav of Cromwell Euro REIT (CEREIT) is 0.50 EUR. Aggregate leverage is not more than 35%,.. if I recalled,...

And the latest news is CEREIT is looking to acquire data centre assets in Europe.

I have been invested for sometime,... taking my dpu in the Euro. Last Christmas,... I was in Europe for two months, the euro earned earlier was very helpful.

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