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post Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 8 2009, 02:57 PM)
Nope, it is all taxable. Everything come into your pocket is taxable unless stated otherwise, by right, if one collected RM1,000 at the roadside, it is still considered taxable under the law as it is your income.  tongue.gif

Even if your company buy you a phone or give the company to drive around or your personal usage instead give you higher salary, it is still taxable under benefit in kind.

Once one has the full tax relief, then pay the tax lor. Actually one should be glad one is paying more tax, as it just means you are making more money.


Added on February 8, 2009, 2:59 pm
All including Adun, menteri or PM also need to pay tax.

Please don't treat the finance section as ranting place or kopitiam talk. Occassion making fun in between seems no harm done, but constantly doing it will be seen as spamming.
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Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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post Feb 8 2009, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
Wah! Salute le. But option 1 is almost impossible la, give me oso dun want.
Just curious, for your Note 2, if someone become ADUN for 1 term only, the tax-exemption is still effective for whole life after he/she step-down? (hopefully not considered as spam)
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post Feb 8 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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Note 2 Internal circulation of exemption order? What you mean by this?
Under the law, or formal internal circulation, ADUN, menteri doesn't need to pay tax?

If it is out of schedule of tax exemption, then it is out, they need to pay tax.
We need prove to show ADUN and menteri don't need to pay tax.

I am respond to your post and guide into the discussion point of this thread. Don't want to see this thread getting out of hand and being reported, after all this thread is an serious and proper discussion thread on personal income tax relief or personal tax issue. smile.gif

We just want this thread grow into meaningful and useful thread to all. smile.gif

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Kekekeke.........Income tax submission againnnnnnnnn


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QUOTE(toto4d @ Feb 8 2009, 04:34 PM)
Wah! Salute le. But option 1 is almost impossible la, give me oso dun want.
Just curious, for your Note 2, if someone become ADUN for 1 term only, the tax-exemption is still effective for whole life after he/she step-down? (hopefully not considered as spam)
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It is not a spam, instead it is a good discussion point.


Added on February 8, 2009, 4:49 pm
QUOTE(toto4d @ Feb 8 2009, 03:53 PM)
cherroy : For 2009, there are few more items add-on for the tax relief. This was announced in the 2009 Budget. e.g. relief up to Rm 2400 for transport allowance. Mean if your company pay you transport allowance, u can at get tax-exemption for the RM 2400, the remaining will be taxable as normal.

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Thanks for the reminder.

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post Feb 8 2009, 05:26 PM

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Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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QUOTE(getsmart @ Feb 8 2009, 05:26 PM)
Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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It depends.

Under single tier system, no.

Under old imputation system, still can claim back.

Now, there is mixture on both as those company still having lot of tax credit will comtinue to pay dividend under old system, while those company has used up the tax credit or already in new single tier system will declared dividend under the new system.

Any tax credit unused will be void after 2013, if not mistaken, they gave grace period of 5 years for company to clear up the tax credit.

Correct me if I am wrong,

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QUOTE(getsmart @ Feb 8 2009, 05:26 PM)
Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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So long you got dividend under old imputation system (aka dividend with clearly stated 25% or 26% been deducted), still can claim.
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Thanks Cherroy and htt. My statements do show tax was deducted.
Was thinking of ignoring them but then the e-filling still has this option and i was wondering why it's still there.
Now i know.

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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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Only state/parlimentary allowances received by ADUN is tax exempted, other income e.g rent , partnership profits,salary from other source, spouse income is taxable.
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post Feb 9 2009, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 8 2009, 02:57 PM)
Nope, it is all taxable. Everything come into your pocket is taxable unless stated otherwise, by right, if one collected RM1,000 at the roadside, it is still considered taxable under the law as it is your income.  tongue.gif

Even if your company buy you a phone or give the company to drive around or your personal usage instead give you higher salary, it is still taxable under benefit in kind.

Once one has the full tax relief, then pay the tax lor. Actually one should be glad one is paying more tax, as it just means you are making more money.


Added on February 8, 2009, 2:59 pm
All including Adun, menteri or PM also need to pay tax.

Please don't treat the finance section as ranting place or kopitiam talk. Occassion making fun in between seems no harm done, but constantly doing it will be seen as spamming.
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somebody mentioned about this, internet allowance gets exemption.. too lazy to search around...its a new exemption by the government.


Added on February 16, 2009, 2:32 pmanybody filed in their e-filing yet? still waiting for EA form. Anyhow i managed to login into e-filing using old login.. rclxms.gif

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post Mar 3 2009, 07:03 PM

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Argh,

I just realized that having big bonus also bumps up your payable tax by a huge amount. My monthly deductions in 08 were like $140 a month only, but after taking my bonus into account & all the deductions, seems like I'm going to have to pay an extra 3.5k to IRB ... =_=;;

/sigh
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post Mar 3 2009, 09:41 PM

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just a question , do Bank interest consider taxable income as well ?
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QUOTE(lgs @ Mar 3 2009, 09:41 PM)
just a question , do Bank interest consider taxable income as well ?
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Yes.
Some country have different rule.


Added on March 4, 2009, 9:59 am
QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 3 2009, 07:03 PM)
Argh,

I just realized that having big bonus also bumps up your payable tax by a huge amount. My monthly deductions in 08 were like $140 a month only, but after taking my bonus into account & all the deductions, seems like I'm going to have to pay an extra 3.5k to IRB ... =_=;;

/sigh
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Earn income is the highest taxed income.
Once you get a pay raise, guess what.
Your government get their share too. biggrin.gif

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Any website can recommend in filling the forms? First job, work for alrdy 1 year, no idea in filling the form....
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post Mar 4 2009, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 3 2009, 07:03 PM)
Argh,

I just realized that having big bonus also bumps up your payable tax by a huge amount. My monthly deductions in 08 were like $140 a month only, but after taking my bonus into account & all the deductions, seems like I'm going to have to pay an extra 3.5k to IRB ... =_=;;

/sigh
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woww must be a big bonus there... rclxms.gif learn to maximize on exemptions to minimize the tax u have to pay.. btw, an EXTRA 3.5K?? thats a lot.. tongue.gif


Added on March 4, 2009, 11:48 am
QUOTE(aeronlim @ Mar 4 2009, 10:47 AM)
Any website can recommend in filling the forms? First job, work for alrdy 1 year, no idea in filling the form....
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aeronlim, try my calculator.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(attahun @ Mar 4 2009, 11:47 AM)
woww must be a big bonus there... rclxms.gif  learn to maximize on exemptions to minimize the tax u have to pay.. btw, an EXTRA 3.5K?? thats a lot.. tongue.gif

Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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Once submitted, cannot be modified. Somemore it is last year one.

May be some other got such similar experience in it, can share their experience how to do it, or whether they still accept for modification?
As far as I know, most of the time, it is something like one way ticket, you can overpay, but cannot underpay.

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QUOTE(lgs @ Mar 3 2009, 09:41 PM)
just a question , do Bank interest consider taxable income as well ?
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For Malaysia it is considered tax at source (final tax) so do not declare in the Form BE/B.
QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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Yes you can still make an appeal. Appeal have to be made in writing together with your EA form(for the EPF) and annual life insurance statements/receipts. Your audit officer may also ask for the receipts for anything else you have claimed.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Mar 19 2008, 03:20 PM)
7 years to be exact. but unlikely that LHDN will look for you when you are not a bigshot earning millions a year. because even though you claim RM1000 (max), the deduction does not make a very big difference in your payable tax.

um, is it okay we discuss this here? wink.gif
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Yes..need to keep for at least 7 years. I've heard that LHDN selects taxpayers to do a detailed audit on a staggered basis and everyone can expect to be audited at least once in 7 years.. even if you are not earning millions!


Added on March 5, 2009, 12:29 am
QUOTE(penangmee @ Mar 5 2009, 12:02 AM)
For Malaysia  it is considered tax at source (final tax) so do not declare in the Form BE/B.
Yes you can still make an appeal. Appeal have to be made in writing together with your EA form(for the EPF) and annual life insurance statements/receipts. Your audit officer may also ask for the receipts for anything else you have claimed.
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I recall reading somewhere that in Budget 2009, interest on deposits exceeding RM100k is no longer taxable.. (previously the bank would deduct tax at source if you have deposits exceeding RM100k) Can someone confirm this?


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langkawi is a free duty location where basically everything is tax free, WTA for example we buy a car from there , izzit tax free oso ? if yes then bring to kl or anywhere else how is the calculation method? hmm.gif

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