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small lady
post Feb 1 2009, 09:11 AM

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thanks to you all..
where can i get salary bracket,or tax bracket? im not really sure the term for it..
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 31 2009, 12:09 PM)
Thanks all !

What I mean is, after I submit ... do I need to wait their feedback ?

Do I get to confirm on my rebate instantly ?
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what rebate u're referring to? if it is the rm350, it is automatically given to u when u do the e-filing if you declared taxable income below rm35,000.


Added on February 2, 2009, 2:39 pm
QUOTE(small lady @ Jan 31 2009, 03:34 PM)
thanks attahun..

one more Q,
the min salary that should pay tax?
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i did a calculation back then, if not mistaken when your monthly salary is RM2233/month, your tax would be about RM1. This is basic calculations for a single, with no other exemptions. You can use my calculator to check for other cases of income.


Added on February 2, 2009, 2:40 pm
QUOTE(small lady @ Feb 1 2009, 09:11 AM)
thanks to you all..
where can i get salary bracket,or tax bracket? im not really sure the term for it..
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care to elaborate further? what bracket are u referring to? if you are talking about the 'percent of tax against your income' bracket, you can get the information from LHDN website. My calculator also has it for easy reference.

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post Feb 2 2009, 03:43 PM

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Hi guys..... i got some questions here:
1) I started to work on June 07 but i didn't submit the BE 07 last year & somehow my ex company helped me to register with LHDN already. So do i need to re-submit the BE 2007 or do i just pretend that i had forgotten about it? tongue.gif

2) This year, i'm going to declare my tax. So do i just need to fill in the BE 08 & submit it to LHDN by postage? Anyway, i'm not too sure how to fill in the BE form, can i go to the LHDN office & ask for the officers there to fill in for me? rclxub.gif

3) As my annual income is less than 30k, will they (LHDN) even bother to entertain me? I heard one of my fren said the officer tell him to "balik" when he went there doh.gif

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post Feb 2 2009, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 2 2009, 03:43 PM)
Hi guys..... i got some questions here:
1) I started to work on June 07 but i didn't submit the BE 07 last year & somehow my ex company helped me to register with LHDN already. So do i need to re-submit the BE 2007 or do i just pretend that i had forgotten about it?  tongue.gif

2) This year, i'm going to declare my tax. So do i just need to fill in the BE 08 & submit it to LHDN by postage? Anyway, i'm not too sure how to fill in the BE form, can i go to the LHDN office & ask for the officers there to fill in for me?  rclxub.gif

3) As my annual income is less than 30k, will they (LHDN) even bother to entertain me? I heard one of my fren said the officer tell him to "balik" when he went there  doh.gif
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1) must submit..if not penalized like rm50 or some value i dunno, better submit coz u might not be paying that much

2) Now use E-filing easier. get e-pin at LHDN and submit tax online. easy.

3) you have to calculate to be sure. i read somewhere this guy was asked to 'balik', next year got penalized for not declaring his tax the year before.. tongue.gif got cheated by LHDN...haha
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post Feb 3 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Feb 2 2009, 10:14 PM)
1) must submit..if not penalized like rm50 or some value i dunno, better submit coz u might not be paying that much

2) Now use E-filing easier. get e-pin at LHDN and submit tax online. easy.

3) you have to calculate to be sure. i read somewhere this guy was asked to 'balik', next year got penalized for not declaring his tax the year before.. tongue.gif got cheated by LHDN...haha
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Hi attahun, thanks for the repy smile.gif
1) i guess i can't use E-Filing anymore as it's already year 2008. So do i have to go to the nearest LHDN for re-submitting my BE2007?
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2) I see.... hmmm, i'd a glance on the BE 2007 form & i found that it's too complicated for me to fill in tongue.gif so if i declare it online, they can't see my EA form.... How are they going to know if i fill the form correctly?

3) Gosh, no wonder our G is so rich even though a lot of ppl never declare their tax tongue.gif Is it very crowded at the LHDN office? i'm just afraid no one there will entertain me & they don't have patience with my noobish question.....zzzz
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post Feb 3 2009, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 3 2009, 11:21 AM)
Hi attahun, thanks for the repy  smile.gif
1) i guess i can't use E-Filing anymore as it's already year 2008. So do i have to go to the nearest LHDN for re-submitting my BE2007?


2) I see.... hmmm, i'd a glance on the BE 2007 form & i found that it's too complicated for me to fill in tongue.gif so if i declare it online, they can't see my EA form.... How are they going to know if i fill the form correctly?

3) Gosh, no wonder our G is so rich even though a lot of ppl never declare their tax  tongue.gif  Is it very crowded at the LHDN office? i'm just afraid no one there will entertain me & they don't have patience with my noobish question.....zzzz
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1) well you use the e-filing for BE2008 which shall be up soon coz deadline is april every year...so regularly check the LHDN website for updates but it should within this month, feb'08. In the e-filing BE2008, there shall be a column at the bottom for past year tax re-submission but i'm not really sure how it works as i never tried it. You can check Sample Borang BE2008 and Description of BE2008, both docs are available at LHDN website. You may still need to go to LHDN to get your E-PIN to enable you to login into e-filing for BE2008 though, and while you're there, just ask them a bit if you want to.

2) if you declare online it'd be easier for u and under self assessment system, you have to keep relevant documents (EA forms, receipt and etc) for a period of 7 years in case they call u for audit. trust me its not that complicated. For reference of the e-filing format you can refer back to the BE2008 pdf file, to practice calculate you can use my calculator.. they will check your form especially when you claim back extra deductions and if you have any errors or discrepancy, they may call you for audit, or they will just buat dunno...hehe..

3) depends on location, LHDN office not so crowded.. but dont go there to submit your tax form, then only it'll be crowded. I suggest you go now, show your ic and get the E-pin or digital cert
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post Feb 3 2009, 12:14 PM

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This year's Borang E 2008, a declaration for Employer is a lot more in details where all employees name, tax no, PCB deducted and their taxable income is recorded and filed to the IRB.

So for those who have been not filing their BE, for year 2008 and onwards, i don't think u can run away...
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post Feb 3 2009, 12:20 PM

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I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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post Feb 3 2009, 12:31 PM

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ya. this year very detail. need to list down all the employees whose income > RM30K in 2008.

this will help IRB to trace whoever not declared the income tax.


QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Feb 3 2009, 12:14 PM)
This year's Borang E 2008, a declaration for Employer is a lot more in details where all employees name, tax no, PCB deducted and their taxable income is recorded and filed to the IRB.
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 3 2009, 12:20 PM)
I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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E-pin only in April? is that correct?

If you do e-filing, you have to declare during that time for the rebate/reliefs that you're entitled and have receipt of such claims (magazine / medicals). the e-filing will auto-calculate your tax and see if you have to top up or claim for refund (note that if your PCB is more than your tax, you have to file separate form to claim refund)..i think u tried my calculator right j'Daniel?? the e-filing is similar format, i just made it into spreadsheet to plan for my tax..

IF you are audited, only then LHDN will calculate all the reliefs you claimed (must have receipts)...if no receipts but u still claim during the e-filing, you will be fined for misdeclaring ur tax..


Added on February 3, 2009, 3:07 pm
QUOTE(kswong77 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:31 PM)
ya. this year very detail. need to list down all the employees whose income > RM30K in 2008.

this will help IRB to trace whoever not declared the income tax.
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walauwehh..now they have e-filing so their staff got more free time to do more extra work ehh?? or is it they plan to fine everyone who dont declare tax, that way they can get more money...hahaha..sokonglah kerajaan...

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 3 2009, 12:20 PM)
I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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Pin no for personal efiling is available now. Just go to the nearest LHDN branch b4 it gets too crowded as efiling BE/B2008 just started today
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QUOTE(kswong77 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:31 PM)
ya. this year very detail. need to list down all the employees whose income > RM30K in 2008.

this will help IRB to trace whoever not declared the income tax.
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....ks, so for employees whose 2008 income did not exceed RM30K, then there is no need for list down, right ?

Or need to list down all employees, regardless of salary amount ?

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It's either 30k a year employee, or 2.5k a month employee. So, it simply means if you (as employer) help your employee to deduct PCB for any particular month in 2008, you have to fill his/her name.

You can refer the form here:
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...%20E%202008.pdf
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lawyer,

what gemini mentioned is correct.

i believe for company doing the Filing of Form E, they might need to tie the listing in the Form E with the Company total salary cost in 2008. so, might need to sum all those not in the category of > 30k a year employee, or 2.5k a month employee.


QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Feb 4 2009, 07:38 AM)
It's either 30k a year employee, or 2.5k a month employee. So, it simply means if you (as employer) help your employee to deduct PCB for any particular month in 2008, you have to fill his/her name.

You can refer the form here:
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...%20E%202008.pdf
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post Feb 5 2009, 05:23 PM

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Is there any guide anywhere for any beginners regarding this Income Tax thing? Total noob here regarding this and any information might help. I began working at 2007 and obtain a Income Tax Number from my company who register for me. Question here is :

1) Do i need to fill in anything for the year (2007) cause i never did anything due to i dont know what to do. And besides, whats the range of salary for a person to be taxable? If i did not hit the taxable range on that particular year, do i still need to register or something?

2) Received a BE form a few weeks ago and what shall i do with it? Any guidelines would be good smile.gif

3) Regarding e-Filling that i had been looking while browsing through this thread, is it possible to apply any way else except going to LHDN office? And do their office opens on weekends?

Sorry for all the noobish question. Never been into this before. smile.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 5 2009, 05:23 PM)
Is there any guide anywhere for any beginners regarding this Income Tax thing? Total noob here regarding this and any information might help. I began working at 2007 and obtain a Income Tax Number from my company who register for me. Question here is :

1) Do i need to fill in anything for the year (2007) cause i never did anything due to i dont know what to do. And besides, whats the range of salary for a person to be taxable? If i did not hit the taxable range on that particular year, do i still need to register or something?

2) Received a BE form a few weeks ago and what shall i do with it? Any guidelines would be good smile.gif

3) Regarding e-Filling that i had been looking while browsing through this thread, is it possible to apply any way else except going to LHDN office? And do their office opens on weekends?

Sorry for all the noobish question. Never been into this before. smile.gif
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1) By right, you should receive BE 2007 last year, if your employer have been deducting PCB/STD from your monthly salary. For your employer to start deducting your salary for Income Tax, you're earning at least RM2,500 a month, for a person who's single. If you happen to be not taxable for that year, but you are previously taxable, you still have to fill your form and declare your income. Once you're registered with the LHDN, you have the obligation to submit and declare your income.

2/3) If you're too lazy to go to the office, go do submission via e-filing. They have just opened their B/BE 2008 e-filing server. If you're a first time user, do a first time login and key in the pin you have in the form you received and register yourself an e-filing account. Filling the online form is pretty self explanatory. Just fill it accordingly based on your EA form.

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QUOTE(penangmee @ Feb 4 2009, 12:04 AM)
Pin no for personal efiling is available now. Just go to the nearest LHDN branch b4 it gets too crowded as efiling BE/B2008 just started today
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Owh is it ? So fast ready ? I drive all the way so far to LHDN but end up no PIN.

Can we actually request the PIN via phone call ?
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J'Daniel, have you received your Form BE2008? The pin is in there too. If you're using e-filing for BE2007 last year, you don't have to request for pin anymore...
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Wish to ask sth regarding the telephone bill and internet subscription relief.. is it the phone bill we receive monthly able to do the relief? someone enlighten me on this pls.. thanks..
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No. there's no telephone bill and internet subscription relief.

HOWEVER, if your employer pays for your telephone bill and internet subscription, it is subject to exemption. I still can't confirm whether is exemption is on full allowance given or based on the bills paid for (where the balance is still taxable).

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