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 Oct 26 2015, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 26 2015, 01:19 PM) Hansel, chill. if you are worried, transfer most of your current asx fp into the upcoming asx fp which most likely be announced next year. That will guaranteed you tax-free and longevity of the fund (change to VP) for at least 3 years.  anyway, it's just speculation regarding the new FP. until announced, better not put much thought into it. QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Oct 26 2015, 01:21 PM) Before they change , They may announce through newspaper or inform by letter to all unit holder right? If they change from fp to vp? this 1 we have discussed previously. conclusion is, we don't know. they can do anything they want. |
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guy3288
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Oct 26 2015, 01:34 PM
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you guys still worry about that? i just bought some ASW2020
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Oct 26 2015, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 26 2015, 01:34 PM) you guys still worry about that? i just bought some ASW2020 dude, u really go to the counter to buy or u leave ur book at the bank for them to try? you always get units while others few hundred also can't get. |
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foofoosasa
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Oct 26 2015, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 26 2015, 01:10 PM) This triggers another thinking - there is a possibility that ALL the 950 mil units available inside the ASW2020 are meant for BUmis only. I'm sure the other forummers can verify this from the formulae. If this is so,... then,......hypothetically,....... : if the ASW2020 units are converted into variable priced units anytime after Dec 31 this year, the Bumis will only be affected minimally. Why,.. ? Perhaps all the Bumis have moved their funds over to the ASB2 already. The political aspect of this national matter has been satisfied. I believed this type of event draws some similar parallels with the ASN conversion from Fixed Price funds into Variable Price funds many tens of years ago, as in the Bumis could move their funds over to more favourable ones before the conversion.  sound make sense to me. But even ASB2 only capped at 200k conversion or not , still early to say. But yea recently myself reduce some portion of my money in ASW , better diversified somewhere else a bit  |
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foofoosasa
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Oct 26 2015, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 26 2015, 01:34 PM) you guys still worry about that? i just bought some ASW2020 why dont let us see the first transaction  i bet that's a lot of amount.  |
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Ramjade
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Oct 26 2015, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 26 2015, 01:41 PM) dude, u really go to the counter to buy or u leave ur book at the bank for them to try? you always get units while others few hundred also can't get. He mentioned before that he leave his book there. At the end of the day just come and sign. |
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Hansel
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Oct 26 2015, 01:46 PM
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Thanks for all the replies, guys,.... As the end of the year draws nearer, the PNB mgmt. will soon need to make an ann't if they are extending the 'FP terms'. I am still staying put with half of my holdings still inside. Another speculation just for discussion sake : what if they don't announce anything, and just let everything flows over to the following year ? FP remains as FP into 2016 and everything seems to remain as it is ? Perhaps the PNB is also waiting for Ms Janet Yellen's move...  ... before deciding to extend for us,.... |
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Oct 26 2015, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 26 2015, 01:46 PM) He mentioned before that he leave his book there. At the end of the day just come and sign. ahhh then mr guy3888 cannot compare us commoners with him. lol. we have to line up and hope for units. not just whether we want to buy or not. This post has been edited by alexanderclz: Oct 26 2015, 01:48 PM |
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nexona88
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Oct 26 2015, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 26 2015, 01:34 PM) you guys still worry about that? i just bought some ASW2020 well our worries won't juz go like that.. there's always fear among us  fear of songlap / bailout, fear of FP change into VP, fear of lower dividend etc. |
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Hansel
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Oct 26 2015, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 26 2015, 01:42 PM) sound make sense to me. But even ASB2 only capped at 200k conversion or not , still early to say. But yea recently myself reduce some portion of my money in ASW , better diversified somewhere else a bit Capped at 200K so as to benefit as many people as possible - which is a good thing. Still,... there are so many outstanding units. Perhaps we should go around asking our Bumi friends if any of them are currently invested in the ASW2020, or ASM or AS1M.... then we can get a better feel,... Prhaps ALL have taken out their funds from the above FP funds and shifted over to the ASB, .... |
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Ramjade
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Oct 26 2015, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 26 2015, 01:51 PM) Capped at 200K so as to benefit as many people as possible - which is a good thing. Still,... there are so many outstanding units. Perhaps we should go around asking our Bumi friends if any of them are currently invested in the ASW2020, or ASM or AS1M.... then we can get a better feel,... Prhaps ALL have taken out their funds from the above FP funds and shifted over to the ASB, .... Perhaps this will make you feel better. In a few post before this, someone dump rm3m into as1m.  |
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Oct 26 2015, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 26 2015, 01:51 PM) Capped at 200K so as to benefit as many people as possible - which is a good thing. Still,... there are so many outstanding units. Perhaps we should go around asking our Bumi friends if any of them are currently invested in the ASW2020, or ASM or AS1M.... then we can get a better feel,... Prhaps ALL have taken out their funds from the above FP funds and shifted over to the ASB, .... asw2020 has a fund size of approximately 22 billion units. 11 billion bumi quota. 1 billion unit still available. there are still about 10 billion units invested by bumi, if that makes you feel better. |
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Hansel
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Oct 26 2015, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 26 2015, 02:13 PM) asw2020 has a fund size of approximately 22 billion units. 11 billion bumi quota. 1 billion unit still available. there are still about 10 billion units invested by bumi, if that makes you feel better. Thank you, Alexander,... this is worthy news,...  |
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nrs Ravi
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Oct 26 2015, 02:42 PM
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nice post.........
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Vincent9696
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Oct 26 2015, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 26 2015, 01:41 PM) dude, u really go to the counter to buy or u leave ur book at the bank for them to try? you always get units while others few hundred also can't get. Today top up still can get also leh... |
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Oct 26 2015, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:33 PM) Today top up still can get also leh... trying to say he has higher chance to get it compared to the rest because he left his book with the bank office |
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nexona88
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Oct 26 2015, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:33 PM) Today top up still can get also leh... how much u got today  |
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Hansel
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Oct 26 2015, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:44 PM) |
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yahiko
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Oct 26 2015, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:33 PM) Today top up still can get also leh... which one ? mine still pending |
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