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 PROTON IRIZ OWNER AND FANS V4

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post Oct 17 2015, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(rigo3t @ Oct 17 2015, 12:25 AM)
That's a fiddly topic and everyone has their opinions and their own practices on this.

Generally it is not advised to "freewheel" your car or let it coast neutral. Because in the event that you need to pick up speed suddenly for whichever reason or the brakes fail, also for whichever reason you're really not in control of your speed in any way.

Also,  the owner's manual does not encourage you to do it either. The car must be in gear.

Before you do engine braking in a manual car though ensure you speed match your rpms to your speed or you will cause premature wear in your clutch. Ultimately it is cheaper to replace brakes than the clutch,  and faster too. You may slow down with your brakes and drop a gear when the car starts to reach 1k,  this is what I do to ensure minimal engine and clutch wear and I only do engine braking if it's a long downhill or going down a hill road for extended periods of time to avoid brake fading.

I used to engine brake all the time, to arrive at any stop going from 5th to 2nd and neutral but that put a lot of stress on my clutch and needed replacement in three years on my Mivy so now, on my new MT Iriz, I'm eating my brakes, no problem. Cheap and fast replacement when required. And no free wheeling unless I'm about to roll naturally into a stop light or something at very low speeds like 10 km/h.
Just my opinion.

(All this is "YouTube-able" too)
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yes, the debate for MT cars whether to be in gear or neutral when coasting downhill has 2 school of thoughts. Both are neither right nor wrong, even some car "experts" are split between the debate.

Ultimately, it is true as well for the safety factor that necessitates you to always be in gear and not neutral when coasting. In fact, if im not mistaken in the US, it is illegal to be in neutral and one must always be in gear (even at traffic lights!). But this "law" is almost never enforced at all. (it is mostly there for the safety factor in case of emergencies). Hence, the reason many are 50/50 on this.

But for most experienced drivers who have driven manual for a very long time, most of them just coast downhill/to a stop in Neutral. Well because they have been driving for a long time, so even in emergency situations one can react fast enough because they know what to do and not panic. Needless to say, attention to the road is very important.
Hence, if you are a new driver or new to manual transmissions, it's adviced to always be in gear so that you can react appropriately in case of emergencies.

As for the wear and tear parts, it is as you have already explained. Ultimately, whether you want to replace your clutch or brake pads first. and of course brake pads are way cheaper to replace than the clutch.

All these talk however does not apply to auto transmissions. In whatever situation, it is never a good idea to shift from D to N and back to D to coast downhill. Because it puts a lot of load on the transmission system, and if damaged is wayyyyyyy costlier than replacing worn out brake pads.. Which brings the dilemma to us CVT users, the engine braking on Iriz is just too aggressive and we can't do anything about it.. Which sucks..

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post Oct 17 2015, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(wingwp @ Oct 17 2015, 12:16 AM)
y do u say shift from N to D when moving wil cause damage? Any source?
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I've read about these stuffs online before. If i'm free I will post up some links that you can read about..

Anyway, just the gist of it. Do you know for automatic cars, shifting from N to D or D to N (or P to D, well you get the point) puts a lot of load on the drivetrain/transmission system of the car? Which is why whenever you shift from P to D or N to D, the car will jerk slightly. This is because power is surging through the drivetrain of the car.

That's why in car user manuals, they advice for short stops such as traffic lights, you should leave the car in D and engage the footbrakes. Frequently shifting from D to N and vice versa will cause drivetrain/transmission wear and tear to happen sooner..

Of course damaging the transmission system wont happen so easily. Or the damage wont happen immediately, maybe in the future over the course of ownership of your car then the damage may occur.
But still, it is an unnecessary risk you are subjecting yourself to. Again, brake pads are way cheaper to replace than having to fix your transmission system..

So the above what I said, I was talking about situations where the car is stationary. Imagine what could happen when the car is moving then wink.gif

EDIT: If you want to try, or if you've tried before. Don't you notice then when the car is moving and you shift from D to N and back to D, the car jerks. (in some cases, you can hear a not-so-good sound)

EDIT 2: Many other reasons why remaining in D and not N (unless stopping to idle for a lengthy period) in an auto is generally a better choice.

1)You do not cause unnecessary premature wear and tear to your car's drivetrain/transmission.

2) Being in N doesn't save you more fuel vs being in D. (applies whether at traffic lights or going downhill)
When you are in D, in modern fuel-injection cars, when throttle is not pressed, no fuel is being used.
When you are in N, fuel is periodically pumped to the engine.

So example when you are going downhill :
In D, you only use your brakes, foot not on throttle, 0 fuel is being used. (not to forget added benefit of engine braking)
In N, because the car recognize it is in N, it will automatically pump fuel to the engine. Fuel will be used.

3) Copy pasta from the net. Too long, but worth a read.
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post Oct 18 2015, 05:23 AM

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our speakers bass not that good eh? hmm.gif

my bass & treble settings all +7, listening volume around 7~10. The volume is loud la, but the bass no feel.

EDIT: Btw anyone can explain what's DSP under Audio settings in the radio? The options are either Front or Passenger btw.

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post Oct 18 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(aki_zz @ Oct 18 2015, 07:17 AM)
To get a decent bass you must put the speaker balance to center. If fwd speaker only cannot because it is a small speaker only.
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yep my other settings are all center balanced. Left/Right & Forward/Rear settings that is.

Only this DSP i tak faham.. It has Front/Passenger. So want to understand more on this function. But Manual no explanation of it at all.
Currently using Passenger for this DSP as it has an overall nicer balance to the sound compared to Front..

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post Oct 19 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Oct 19 2015, 02:37 PM)
Assalamualaikum and Good afternoon, i wanna ask something. Can anyone recommend me good cheap dash cam? i want to buy it for  my iriz and for my sister saga, if anyone know any cheap but good dash cam or normal price(not too high not too low) but good quality or a little bit expensive with built in gps function please tell me..
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i also looking for dashcams. You can go to dashcam topic at FnF to see the reviews.
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post Oct 19 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Oct 19 2015, 03:41 PM)
i already read most of the post but sadly i can't get any good recommendation got but expensive. that's why i wanna ask someone from here if any iriz geng already got dash cam please share, price and where do you buy it and the quality..  smile.gif
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yup same dilemma then. Got so many options. What's your budget btw? I saw some decent ones around rm 200-300. hmm.gif
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post Oct 19 2015, 10:12 PM

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Hey guys. I notice the radio sound tends to fluctuate. Suddenly the radio will get softer then it will go back up..

Anyone had these issue?

and also, my front wiper sometimes makes noise when in use.. The annoying squeaking/ngek ngek sound.. It doesn't happen all the time.. Sometimes on got sound, sometimes on no sound. Even in same usage cycle, few swipes got sound, few swipes later no sound, etc.. Any solution for this?

EDIT: Oh and also, the radiator quite susceptible to small tiny stones/sand getting stuck in there. I managed to slightly clean it and get the loose stones/sand out of the way.. That's because i so happen to be checking the front area of the car. Am worried in future if i don't constantly check it, stones may get lodged in there and it will be hard to remove then.

Last time you guys got talk about wanting to DIY to put some sort of shield for the radiator. Any news?

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post Oct 19 2015, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(yadea @ Oct 19 2015, 09:24 PM)
I have bought those China dash cam before. Online have good reviews but due to Malaysian weather the plastic cracked and the aluminum bent outwards I had to UHU gum the things back in place. After less than a year, the image started becoming very blury with plenty of noise in the picture. Decided to change mine to the Xiaomi Yi Cam which cost me RM199(RM249 then reduced with RM50 voucher on lazada). Added a suction mount and it is good to go. Its quite comparable to gopro but settings are controlled via the app. If you need a screen then SJ4000 could be a good choice as its around similar price range but picture quality not as good(but it comes with a lot of accessories so you dont need to buy them).

Dont have much videos but heres a sample:
EDIT: Please set video resolution to highest.

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is that the Xiaomi action camera in your youtube link? The picture quality is good. rclxms.gif Do you mind taking picture of your car interior to see how you set it up?
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post Oct 19 2015, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(rigo3t @ Oct 19 2015, 05:20 PM)
Hey guys,

So, in general all dashcams are pretty much the same. I've used like 3 or 4 and they have the same settings and all. I recommend you get Class 10 memory cards for them, to avoid corrupt files and proper read/write speed.

Then, also this dude has great reviews on dash cameras...

http://www.techmoan.com/what-is-the-best-dashcam/

A two camera setup would set you back like... 40 USD which I think it's super cheap from AliExpress (I got mine there).
I have in my Iriz this camera (also, it's very stealthy because of how the mirror on the Iriz is mounted with that black overlay it's very hard to tell there's anything there so it's basically hidden unless you get real close):

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HD-4-3-LCD-...2370124112.html
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the one you are using right now, the shape is a rear view mirror shape? Can take picture from inside the car? wanna see how it looks like when it is set up.
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(denzel5007 @ Oct 20 2015, 04:45 PM)
accidentally dropped also consider owner faulty?   rclxub.gif
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If not your fault then whose fault? doh.gif

You accidentally kissed someone's bumper. You try use that logic with the car owner. See what happens lol.

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post Oct 21 2015, 12:35 AM

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Btw, after surveying for dashcams/action cams, I decided I'll get an action cam to use as a dashcam.

It'll either be the SJ4000 or the Yi Cam..

Anyone bought those 2 before? Recommend me some reputable seller/shops. Want to avoid buying fake products.
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Kais767 @ Oct 20 2015, 10:01 PM)
I was wondering if the Iriz has the emergency stop signal? The feature that flashes the hazard lights if you slam on the brakes at high speed to warn cars behind.
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I don't think we have this feature. Don't remember seeing it anywhere in the manual book.
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(rigo3t @ Oct 21 2015, 12:42 AM)
I have the SJ4000 WiFi.

There are multiple YouTube videos that show the differences and what to look for. Mainly, the labeling on the front of the camera.

I have a contact of the guy I bought it from in KL near Pudu Sentral, in the mall diagonal from it... He's called Andrew and this is the number: 0176344835

The price is good and he has original models, also, he has the Yi in case you want to see it. Personally though, the SJ4000 is more worth the money as it has way more accessories and an LCD to review footage.
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yeap i've already read the fake vs original part. It seems there's another product called SJ4000 too, but not from SJCAM. That's the fake one..

I'm also leaning more towards the SJ4k cause of the LCD screen, at least it's more convenient than having to download the Yi app and do stuffs from there..

Okay thanks for the contact, I'll give him a message and see. thumbup.gif

Btw, you are using a dedicated dashcam for your car and not the action cam?
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post Oct 21 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(adijb @ Oct 21 2015, 08:00 PM)
Dashcams huh? Wonder whats the price range..
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mostly I found:

Day time : Great video quality
Night time : Above average video quality
Price : RM 250-350.

Around that price range, most recommended are the G1 series dashcam or SJ4k/Yi Cam action cams(turned into dashcam)

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post Oct 21 2015, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(rigo3t @ Oct 21 2015, 11:24 AM)
@LordDenning @megadisc

Alrighty, as per you guy's request I have uploaded a small album to Imgur so you can take a look at the install of the mirror-mounted dashcam. I have added descriptions at the bottom of each image explaining what you're looking at. The album is here:

http://imgur.com/a/DYJkl

Enjoy.
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thanks for the photos! Ahh, so the dashcam functions as the LCD screen and also the rear view mirror? Interesting..
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post Oct 21 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(yadea @ Oct 21 2015, 11:14 AM)
I have ordered 2 yi cams before. My colleagues one is from here while mine cant be found anymore from that seller on lazada. I choose Yi cam mainly because after viewing the video comparisons, sj cam seems to be more bluish and from dark to bright transition(eg exiting a tunnel) you can really see the image brightness changing. Also to me the Yi cam seems to have better video quality. I considered the SJ cam due to the screen and it comes with accessories but upon further thinking, you dont keep changing your settings every time you are using your dash cam. Its normally configured once then left as it is.

Not sure if SJ cam has firmware updates or not but yi cam has from time to time to add more features and fix problems(if any).
Yi cam wifi problem was old problem and long since solve already in firmware update.
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Thanks for the review and link.
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post Oct 21 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Oct 21 2015, 08:17 PM)
drove an iriz.
ride quality is better than a honda fit2.
handling is better than a fit2.
standing start is typical cvt. manual shouldn't be a problem.
acceleration is pretty good for a 1.3 engine.
engine sounds like a truck.
front cabin is spacious.
boot and rear seat is smaller than a fit2.
radio unit is lolwut.
seat is more comfortable than a fit2.
A pillar is obstructing just like a fit2.
rear window is small.
dashboard is high, not even a manlet.
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so weird you use the name Honda Fit. I thought what car is that until I googled, turns out it's the Jazz haha..
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QUOTE(chikuera @ Oct 21 2015, 10:12 PM)
I'm from Shah Alam btw. From lowyat forum, the best offer is rebate rm5000 (Rm4700 from proton + RM300 from SA) but wouldnt be getting any gift
Opted for Axia SE just because the lower variant got no ABS. Iriz was a lil out of my budget at first but now with the discount, I think I could afford it
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PM vincent818 See what he can offer you. He's from SeaPark, PJ btw if it's not too far for you.

and to your question, yes Iriz definitely worth it over the Axia. But keep in mind, Iriz FC will be higher than an Axia. But not by too much, almost the same FC like a Myvi. But then again you cannot vroom vroom in an Axia but you can in the Iriz. hahaha

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post Oct 21 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(rigo3t @ Oct 21 2015, 10:22 PM)
Yes, it's really useful. Install and forget, I like not having to take it off the car or anything. Practical and since it's on the mirror you don't lose more windshield real estate because you aren't adding more items to it, you're just putting it on top of something you already have in the way.
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Okay so my choices right now are, either G1 or this dashcam or SJ4k/Yi Cam..

But I'm leaning more towards the SJ4k since I don't own an action cam, so itchy hands want to get one to play with. All the better since it can serve as a dashcam once i'm done playing with it as an action cam. Maybe in the future when I have more cash to spend I'll get a proper dashcam. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 10:42 PM

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Btw guys, how exactly does our remote tailgate release function work?

When you press the unlock button for more than 3 seconds, the boot unlocks only right? Still have to manually open it by pressing the button at the boot right?

Cause today while in the parking lot, I saw someone opened his car boot with his remote and it automatically pops open. Needless to say, it was an expesive car (VW Jetta) Buttt it was cool alright.. tongue.gif

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