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post Sep 21 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 21 2015, 03:51 PM)
The Saudis have reserve which can last them 20+ years. The rest of the world aren't that lucky. So it will be see who will bleed first.
They can increase the price of oil but then the shale will become profitable. Then they need to lower it compete with shale.
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They are all businessmen. They have their own interest to protect. When every player suffer enough, they will sit down and talk. Then another "Opec" will emerge. This is another possibility

Oil is not like FMCG. They can form cartel for their own benefit. There is no anti-trust law governing them. They are the law.

Nothing is static. Especially when you talk about money, people will be very creative
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post Sep 21 2015, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Sep 21 2015, 05:51 PM)
Would like to hear your great strategies then.  How you diversify your portfolio?  notworthy.gif
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Mine ? Very simple. I accumulate foreign currencies now SGD, USD and AUD and let them sit in bank doing nothing (except AUD got 2.x% interest). Occasionally play DCI when interest rate go up >20% with favourable exchange rate. Have sold 75% of my stock 3-6 months ago and waiting a little bit longer to buy back. Maybe Nov, Dec or next year

But the amount of forex is not as much as I would like to have. Well, everybody is greedy... tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(towar @ Sep 21 2015, 06:44 PM)
they wont form a cartel because they all have different cost structures. it costs less for Saudi or Russia to pump , compared to US shale fracking.
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post Sep 21 2015, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 21 2015, 10:02 PM)
Folks,

For those people that keep on changing my words, let me be VERY ACCURATE on what I am saying.

1) I am taking about Oil Money.  Not Oil reserve and so on...

2) Malaysia may still have Oil Reserve but Oil Money can run out first.

3) Malaysia earn Oil Money by

    A) Exporting more Oil and Gas than its own consumption. Aka, net exporter.  Given that Malaysia has higher quality crude oil (sweet) than it needs to consume and sweet crude oil is worth a lot more money, Malaysia can be a small net importer and still earn Oil Money.

    B) The difference between export and import multiply by Oil Price is the Oil Money.

    C) Actually, Malaysia export more Natural Gas than crude oil.  So, natural gas price affect oil money more.  Asian had the highest price for natural gas.  Asian Natural Gas price has not collapse yet.  So, the worse is yet to come.  Asian Natural Gas price is dued for a drop when US start exporting natural gas.

In summary, I am saying Malaysia is running out of Oil Money.  It is not Oil Reserve.  Malaysia is not running out of oil and gas.

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When ?
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post Sep 22 2015, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 22 2015, 12:04 AM)
Showtime747,

If you are really interested, check out my "sinking ship" thread at RWI forum.

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If you are really a man with balls and meant what you say, it is only a one line statement to type here. Is that very difficult ?

A prediction without time frame is like predicting "Malaysia will win the World Cup one day". I can BS and can never be proven wrong.

Or are you not confident enough about your own belief ? I thought you want to be "VERY ACCURATE" in what you are saying ?

This post has been edited by Showtime747: Sep 22 2015, 07:21 AM
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post Sep 22 2015, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 22 2015, 08:19 AM)
Showtime747,

1) You need to hope that I am wrong.  You need to hope that it is not too late..  I don't.  I am prepared.  Malaysia's economy can crash any time and it would not matter to me.  In summary, you need to know when.  I don't.

2) I wish you best of luck.

3) I am reaching a point in time that I no longer care to argue or debate about this.  I had written and posted too many posts on this.  If you are interested, you can read my posts and look at number and come up your own conclusion for the time frame.

4) You cannot buy confidence.  You have to believe it yourself.

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Trying to talk about something else to avoid giving yourself a time frame so nobody could prove you wrong ? That is the usual strategy of some feng shui master too tongue.gif

1. I have enough of overseas investment to tie me over. I have a business which earn USD and RMB since many years ago. 2 of my kids are workiing in Australian and UK now I can go there any time. Don't assume everybody is not prepared. I just want something concrete from you so I can put your prediction in perspective. Your prediction so far is "intangible" to me. Layman word - "catch no ball"

2. It is not about luck. If you are so confident, you would know roughly when malaysia's economy will crash.

3. Afraid to read my reply ? Because I press you to a point you can't answer. That's why you try to ignore me. You can't even give a simple straight answer

4. You are just not confident enough to give a simple time frame prediction, fearing me to laugh at your mistake. In other words, you are afraid to make mistake

Anyway, the readers can read how chicken you are tongue.gif

Ok, I shall stop until you give me a timeframe of your prediction. Apologies to all other readers for OTing notworthy.gif
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post Sep 22 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(towar @ Sep 22 2015, 09:48 AM)

dreamer101 has written more than enough controversial posts. as a senior member yourself, I would expect u not to ask someone to spoonfeed u . go read his posts and make your own conclusion. such a complex scenario like "when malaysia's economy will crash" would certainly deserve more than a one-liner answer therefore your request is unreasonable and childish.

PS: and before u accuse me of being a supporter of dreamer101 , refrain from embaressing yourself by searching my post history.
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The one liner answer I expect from him is "when". Just a date/timeframe. How complex can that be ?


p/s no I won't accuse you of his supporter because I have not even heard of you before. You are not as famous as unker dreamer in LYN. Sorry but I have to let you know you are a nobody here tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 22 2015, 10:07 AM)
Showtime,..

You and Dreamer put up a very good debate. There was no-OTing,... All these matters are very related and hence, very relevant to the movements of the USD/MYR. Tq,... notworthy.gif

Some of my takes :-

1) There is no clear answer yet on when the country will crash, though there are multiple models being built by different people.

2) But, though saying the above, Dreamer is saying repeatedly now that it is TOO LATE NOW to save ourselves, implying that, perhaps, the country has already crashed and we are trapped ?
We are not trapped.
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Ya I agree with you. Direction is there (that malaysia is heading for a tough time), but claiming the economy is doomed and will never recover is too extreme. That is too negative.

As a good investor, we should not write any possibilities off and bet everything in 1 go. The world is so fluid. Everything is possible. By "Sai Lang" on an extreme belief, these extreme investors are putting all their money in a 1 way traffic. If the direction changes, they could not take advantage of changing tides

I suspect unker dreamer has made a "Sai Lang" bet a few years ago. He wants to see his decision was right to prove to himself he is not wrong. Hence his extreme view. Just my guess tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 22 2015, 11:06 AM)
i thought the options were 20-80, 50-50 and 80-20.

now, u r talking 0-100 or 100-0! laugh.gif

personally, i rather lean towards 80-20 until things clearly are changing.
as we speak, 4.2835.
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Unker dreamer is 0-100. Me is 50-50. Still haven't achieved yet. I have learnt the lesson of not diversifying fast enough. Should have done it 10 years ago tongue.gif
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post Sep 22 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 22 2015, 12:15 PM)
Your children are grown-up and are located overseas. I am hoping for that day too, but I have not achieved it.

If I am in your position,... frankly, I wouldn't think too much about money and diversifying anymore. But I still have to do this because I stlll have responsibilities to fulfill. There is still a long way to go.

There are no lessons to be learnt at your side. You have made it. You are safe,... if need be, you can always fly, or escape to where your children are located. YOu don't have to set aside funds for your eventual escape, if really this country crashes.

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No lah. Still concern of what I have. I treat myself as the guardian of the investment. So I have the responsibility to preserve for my next generation and my staff. While enjoying as much as I could at the same time. For my business, I still need to be "motivated" because of the staff. If I am contented, my staff will not progress and make more money too. So the urge, pressure and motivation to make more money is still there. Although semi-retired, different people around me are still pushing me to charge forward

Knowledge is never too much to learn. I can learn a lot from many people here - their investment knowledge, their thinking and the attitude. I can see many right attitude and motivated people here, as well as a few negative and pessimistic people

When you reach my age, then you will know less is more. And money is not everything. But the circumstances may not permit you to step back or go slower. You will feel the true meaning of 人在江湖身不由己 sad.gif
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post Sep 23 2015, 08:25 AM

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Looks like Zeti has emerged from hiding since last week. Can read many news about her and her department lately thumbup.gif
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post Sep 23 2015, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 22 2015, 11:25 PM)
brazil is not msia, but is a good case study.

BRIC - brazil, russia, india, china - the darlings of emerging markets.

well, the brazilian real fell off a cliff against the usd.

what does a country experience in a situation like that?

austerity, hike taxes, cut spending, plug the budget deficit.

plus contracting economy, high inflation, perception of debt default.

again, this is BRAZIL, a good read about the very serious problems that can come with ultra weak currency, high debts, massive corruption:
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Hmm....can see a lot of resemblance. Emerging market, oil producing country, big scandals, high debt level, austerity. But Malaysia economy is still not contracting (yet) and with low inflation. A little bit better

INB4 someone will come and say Brazil will be doomed and never recover because they have no enough oil money anymore tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 23 2015, 10:25 AM)
low inflation figures... u believe? biggrin.gif

gdp... let's watch for rest of the year.
as we speak, 4.348, passed last high of 4.339 on sep 8.
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Inflation figures only on essential stuff. Actual inflation on everything else is a lot higher tongue.gif

Just like the unemployment figures in other 1st world country. USA, EU, Aust...actual is higher than official numbers

US$ is strong. Other currencies like AUD, SGD, Euro, GBP is still around the same level. From here, I think market sees US interest rate will hike this year already. If not October, then December. The recent Sept FOMC shows hike or no hike has little effect on the world market either way. Market is going down whatever Yallen decides. Makes Yellen's job a lot easier tongue.gif

I better switch more to USD whenever there is chance. I think anything below 4.30 is good. Potential 4.50 thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 23 2015, 11:26 AM)
They have been talking about interest rate hike since beginning of 2014?    biggrin.gif

Patience.................
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Ya boss. They have been holding back since then. "One day" they will increase, surely !



P/S : "One day" is a very good open-ended time frame to use. I will never get wrong in a debate tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 23 2015, 01:47 PM)
HLIB Research: Ringgit to hit 4.00 level against USD by year-end, international reserves to stabilise rolleyes.gif

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“We opine that the US Federal Reserves (US Fed) will go very careful on its rate lift off to ensure that growth momentum is not jeopardized. We expect the first US Fed lift off to be in the Dec FOMC meeting,” HLIB said.


As such, depreciation pressure on emerging market currencies, including the ringgit, will slow down in the short term, it added.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/h...?type=Corporate
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How come USA increase interest rate, depreciation pressure for EM currencies will slow down one ? If US interest rate increase, more demand for US$ --> US$ will appreciate. Other currencies will depreciate. According to textbook lah...

Macam-macam theory ada. Everything is possible tongue.gif
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Sep 23 2015, 04:23 PM)
He lost half of his saving many years ago.. dunno which bust was that.
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Is it ? I also forgot already tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2015, 05:08 PM

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Those who hold SDG or SGD denominated investments, there might be a risk coming that MAS might do further monetary easing

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/s...ary-easing-risk
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post Sep 24 2015, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 24 2015, 02:42 AM)
this alternative report about hlib is quite different:
such low confidence from an ib, might as well say 3.0 to 5.0! laugh.gif
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I read it as HLIB is so confident RM will appreciate back up to a best of 3.55. The worst also is 4.20. In any case, RM will strengthen in their view and the worst is over.

The most optimistic banker in the market now.

At least the banker has BALLS to predict a time frame - by the fourth quarter of this year. That is what I call a prediction. Come with a time frame so we can judge his prediction is right or wrong. Not an open-ended prediction. People is not afraid to make mistake

Unlike some negative and pessimistic balls-less people here who like to bull shit without a time frame. They will never be wrong and can keep BSing here forever tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 24 2015, 09:47 AM)
time frame confidence is totally negated by the fact that it was already 4.3x yesterday.

now, 4.38x!

man, this is bad...

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They are saying "by the forth quarter of this year" and "at year end". Let's give them benefit of the doubt and see if their bravery pays off by 31/12/2015.

I like they have the guts ! I have never deal with HL bank. Maybe I should try them soon thumbup.gif
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post Sep 24 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Sep 24 2015, 09:56 AM)
These people come out with predictions all the time.
Nobody really cares if they are wrong or right.

It's similar to a football pundit predicting a match score.

However, if somebody here makes a prediction that is wrong I'm pretty sure you'll remember them of it a few times at least.
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It is Hong Leong Investment Bank. A big organisation. They put their reputation on the line in the open. At least they make a complete prediction which we can judge them within a time frame.

I do care IBs or stock brokers are right or wrong. Their opinions affect my decision. And yes, I will form an opinion on who is good at prediction as times go. At least I can judge them if they give a time frame.

For those who refuse to give a time frame while still love to give their prediction with rhetorics, I can't tell whether they are right or wrong ever. They could be right after all. But they have not balls or intention to prove themselves. That makes a debate very difficult and with no ending

BTW, what do you think of RM by this year end ? Just curious to know

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