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lunatique
post Sep 16 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 16 2015, 01:48 PM)
Developing countries that rely on foreign capital to finance their current account deficits are expected to face trouble, since higher rates in the U.S. would threaten to siphon that capital away
forgive my ignorance in global finances, but does this include Malaysia?? hmm.gif
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post Sep 16 2015, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(lunatique @ Sep 16 2015, 03:23 PM)
forgive my ignorance in global finances, but does this include Malaysia?? hmm.gif
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u can see it is #9 on the chart of more than 35 or so.

some foreign money has already left.

the article theorizes that if us hike rates tmrw, more will leave.

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post Sep 16 2015, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 16 2015, 03:30 PM)
u can see it is #9 on the chart of more than 35 or so.
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So it's shown that Malaysia is also part of the current Terrible Ten? sad.gif sad.gif


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 16 2015, 03:30 PM)
u can see it is #9 on the chart of more than 35 or so.

some foreign money has already left.

the article theorizes that if us hike rates tmrw, more will leave.
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Marks the waste of RM20b rclxub.gif shocking.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 16 2015, 07:00 PM

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1.00 USD = 4.23 MYR

1.00 SGD = 3.02 MYR

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post Sep 16 2015, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 16 2015, 07:00 PM)
1.00 USD  =  4.23 MYR

1.00 SGD  =  3.02 MYR

hmm.gif
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its getting better right.but slight difference only
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 16 2015, 07:02 PM)
its getting better right.but slight difference only
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could be because of Public Holiday today hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 16 2015, 07:04 PM)
could be because of Public Holiday today  hmm.gif
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dont htink so..most probably its because of the announcement najib made regarding the 28billion ringgit allocation
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 16 2015, 07:11 PM)
dont htink so..most probably its because of the announcement najib made regarding the 28billion ringgit allocation
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Previously 20b, now an additional 28b? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 16 2015, 07:30 PM)
Previously 20b, now an additional 28b? rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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28 or 20??...i not sure..yesterday news paper i saw 28 b biggrin.gif
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 16 2015, 07:02 PM)
its getting better right.but slight difference only
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I wud opined traders have factor-in 'worst case' scenario b4 the Rally
However, biz as usual after Rally ended
Thus, traders cover position ASAP
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:46 PM

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not scaring anyone, but pls consider the possibility...

what happens to the rm then? sweat.gif

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Why China's yuan may be set for 15% devaluation

According to the source, the push for a weaker yuan has to be seen in the context of sharp falls in other Asian currencies such as the Japanese yen that have given Japanese exporters a competitive edge.

The Japanese yen has shed more than 50 percent of its value against the dollar in the past three years against a backdrop of aggressive monetary stimulus from the Bank of Japan.

China's surprise yuan devaluation last month meanwhile sparked fresh concerns about a global "currency war" – whereby countries devalue their currency in a tit-for-tat scrabble to gain a competitive edge -- and unfair protection of exporters by Beijing.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/16/why-chinas-...evaluation.html

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post Sep 16 2015, 07:53 PM

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post Sep 16 2015, 07:55 PM

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ValueCap's funds will soften decline, not trigger boom
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/312524

The uptrend experienced by Bursa 2 days ago will fizzled out?



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post Sep 16 2015, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2015, 07:55 PM)
ValueCap's funds will soften decline, not trigger boom
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/312524

The uptrend experienced by Bursa 2 days ago will fizzled out?
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But the 20b has not even been deployed yet.
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post Sep 16 2015, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2015, 07:55 PM)
ValueCap's funds will soften decline, not trigger boom
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/312524

The uptrend experienced by Bursa 2 days ago will fizzled out?
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I guess so.
Wahid said the 20b come from the three owners of valuecap, if the market shore up is a failure, better reassess your investment in ASX.

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post Sep 16 2015, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 16 2015, 08:01 PM)
But the 20b has not even been deployed yet.
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Precisely
How long can the momentum last as the uptrend is supported by artificial monies

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 16 2015, 08:16 PM)
I guess so.
Wahid said the 20b come from the three owners of valuecap, if the market shore up is a failure, better reassess your investment in ASX.
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ASx is a different species on its own
ASNB will use the 12 ASx within the family members to buy n sell so tat Report Card looks gud during exam
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post Sep 16 2015, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 16 2015, 01:41 PM)
When u TT the funds to your USD foreign currency account in Singapore, is there any limit/restriction imposed? How much is incurred for currency conversion n fees?
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Depend on the amt you are TT'ing out. For Maybank :-

1) If equal to or less than RM10K, can use the online method. Charge is RM15 per transaction.

2) If greater than RM10K, need to go to the branch to perform the TT. Charge is RM25 pre transaction. Need to fill-in forms and to abide by certain rules.

Transactions and charges are different for CIMB and RHB. Maybank is used in my eg above because Maybank is more commonly used by my friends. I use all three banks, I compare the rates and charges and select the best bank.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 16 2015, 08:16 PM)
I guess so.
Wahid said the 20b come from the three owners of valuecap, if the market shore up is a failure, better reassess your investment in ASX.
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aeiou228,

Even if it is successful, it is a temporary fix. It does not address the fact that the economy is doing badly. Meanwhile, the ASx holder (non-ASB) are counting on things will do fine for a long time while they are collecting 6+% dividend every year.

This is BASICALLY a BAD BET.

A) If you win, you ONLY collect 6+% per year. Please note that even if the ASx holder collect 6+% of dividend, they can still lose purchasing power as long as RM drop even further. It is still a loss.

B) If you lose, you will lose a lot more.

We have not even thrown in the fact that most ASx holder are essentially putting all their eggs into ONE basket since 20+% of their gross income are in EPF.

We cannot save the DUMMIES.

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post Sep 16 2015, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2015, 08:56 PM)
ASNB will use the 12 ASx within the family members to buy n sell so tat Report Card looks gud during exam
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Precisely. A fund name will appear in the disclosures when it has been used to buy or sell a counter.

To know more, one has to follow closely the ann'ts by PNB, and then drill down into the report to check if it is an acquisition or a disposal of shares done by a fund, and most importantly : at what price was the acquisition made, and at what price was the disposal done, if any was done.

If the share price falls below an earlier acquisition price, then we know that the ctr held by a particular fund has experienced a capital loss against an earlier Buy Price of the ctr. If we keep seeing capital loss being experienced by a fund that we are holding, then we have to start being alert !!!

Of course, the reverse is also true for the same fund that we are holding.

We have a lot of work to do now,... no other choice.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 16 2015, 07:46 PM)
not scaring anyone, but pls consider the possibility...

what happens to the rm then? sweat.gif
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Unless China want to trigger worldwide currency havoc, I think it is unlikely.
There is no reason for them to do so currently and with current situation.

Previously they 'tested" the market with 3% devaluation, already caused so much turbulence in the market as well as sink the stock market severely which hurting themselves as well in the process.
The aftermath, the PBOC did intervene the Yuan by buying it aggressively in the market to stablise the situation, already signalled they did not want to see too much turbulence in the market.

Nobody wants to do something that benefit no one.

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