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post Oct 22 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 22 2015, 01:32 PM)
When GDP grows at 4.x%, means there will be at least 4.x% increase in disposal income.
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and herein lies the problem:

4.x% incr in disposable income, urban-suburban inflation in reality 8-10%.

rural 2% inflation does not help as they are not the big spenders.

imo, this 4.x% gdp growth will decline further very soon - from what i see at the kopishops, property market, my own spending.
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post Oct 22 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Roger89 @ Oct 22 2015, 03:41 PM)
Bro any idea what time the budget will be announce by the PM?
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he usually starts talking, live on tv at 4pm on a fri, goes on for an hr.

by time he finish, markets, bank already close.

then people digest over weekend, react on monday.

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post Oct 22 2015, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 22 2015, 07:25 PM)
And budget this Friday should be positive for the RM.
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you are confident? biggrin.gif

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All in all, analysts said more measures were likely to be introduced to cushion the impact of the GST on households, in the form of cash pay-outs and bonus payment for civil servants, including an increase in Bantuan Rakyat 1Malaysia (BR1M) across the board for households and individuals.
— BERNAMA
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...omic-prospects/

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post Oct 22 2015, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 22 2015, 07:34 PM)
Want to bet 3 x  notworthy.gif  ?
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sure! laugh.gif

but what is starting point? 4.25 or 4.28? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 22 2015, 08:39 PM)
Rates at 4.00pm Friday vs rates at 10.00am Monday  tongue.gif
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ok, can do. rclxms.gif


draghi just hinted more more qe in euro.

usd rose 1% against euro, crude softening again.

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post Oct 23 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2015, 09:39 AM)
Leading the charge
http://www.focusmalaysia.my/Mainstream/Lea...%20the%20charge

All commodities goes up
Can tis momentum sustain plus turnaround for MYR?
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it is true commodity prices are off their multi year lows.

but can't count on it yet. commodity cycles can be very very long.

it will take china and the rest of the industrialized world to consume/use more and more to improve commodity prices.

oil exporters incl brazil, venezuela and russia will be the first to celebrate if that happens.

even saudi will be relieved as it is hurting to run on 20% budget deficit now and with reserves being drained every month.
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post Oct 23 2015, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 23 2015, 12:28 PM)
With oil still around $45, RM appreciate from 4.28/4.29 to 4.22/4.23 today. I think they already pricing in goodies in budget 2016  tongue.gif
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oil aside, i can see many parties placing confidence in a rm strengthening budget incl moody's:
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/m...moody%E2%80%99s

goodies? you mean goodies to strengthen rm i.e. more taxes, reduce debt, smaller budget deficit?

or baddies - less tax, more disposable income, more foc cash, bigger deficit, more debt? laugh.gif

we'll hv to see goodie or baddie that will help the rm or bust it further. tongue.gif

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post Oct 23 2015, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 22 2015, 08:39 PM)
Rates at 4.00pm Friday vs rates at 10.00am Monday  tongue.gif
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fri 4pm 4.225.

now, 4.216.

you are leading! biggrin.gif

but... we wait till 10am monday.
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post Oct 23 2015, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 23 2015, 07:00 PM)
looks like GST managed to soften the blow to reduction of petroleum revenue. no more oil money but rakyat's money.
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yes, it does look like gst will fund everything now.

and notice those super high income earners >rm600k a yr will be taxed more.

so, good brains/highest income earners will either pay for the rest or leave.

QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 23 2015, 07:07 PM)
Yeah,... RM is also strengthening against the SGD. At I am writing, it is at 3.0321 against the SGD. So,... if we go to the money-changer tomorrow, can probably get at 3.0530 if this number of 3.0321 does not move-up further by tonight.
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better not conclude so soon! tongue.gif

markets are digesting what the budget implies and what moves bijan will make further.
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post Oct 23 2015, 07:33 PM

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throw a spanner in the works!


BREAKING: China's central bank cuts benchmark interest rates
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post Oct 23 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 23 2015, 09:07 PM)
No major surprises in the budget to prop up RM. They still spend like before. No major effort to save RM demonstrated.

Don't need to wait for Monday  tongue.gif  You get the 3  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

The feeling I get is they still are complacent with the situation and do not see the urgency. They even sound proud of the GST covering the short fall with no slight gratefulness to the GST payers Ie. They claimed credit for implementing GST instead of thanking the whole nation for paying GST and contributing to nation building doh.gif

The only word I can think of is "merciless"
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see, the thing is like i hv said a few times - this gomen does not hvae the word austerity in the dictionary. only spend!


anyway, we need to wait for reaction to this robinhood cum spendthrift budget plus china's rate cut.

one thing for sure, oil will likely drop further due to china rate cut and coming more euro qe - both driving up the $. no chance for oil/commodity recovery for now.

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post Oct 23 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 23 2015, 09:21 PM)
Well, at least they did not raise the GST.
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think gst need not be in budget, can raise anytime outside budget after 9 or 12 months... can't remember..
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post Oct 23 2015, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 23 2015, 09:28 PM)
Why would oil drop when the central banks provide more stimuli
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crude denominated in usd.
it is produced gobally.
if other major currencies devalue, usd must go up.
then crude must go down.

read it up. tongue.gif
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post Oct 24 2015, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 24 2015, 12:03 AM)
Statistics : 6% GST introduced in 2015. GDP growth was affected only <1%, and that was due to China slowdown and low oil price, not GST

Of course there will not be suicidal 1 time 10% increase. They are stupid, but not that stupid. It will be increase 1-2% bit by bit each time depending on situation.
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gst will surely naik at the earliest convenience.

more so now incr br1m and some additional food/medicines zero gst announced.

rural vote bank secured; urban-suburban inflation will definitely rise fast.



rm... baed on last few hrs, it looks like it will be 4.24-4.25 on monday.
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post Oct 24 2015, 11:17 AM

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bloomberg says it better.

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Najib is counting on domestic demand as global growth falters, pledging to boost consumption, spur private investment and accelerate selected public infrastructure projects next year. And he plans to achieve this without deepening the budget deficit even as oil revenue shrinks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...alaysian-budget


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post Oct 24 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 24 2015, 11:57 AM)
Am I the only one here think, GST should not have exemption list, but to have a lower % GST?

It is easier this way than trying to figure out which one is GST which one is not.
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the political needs do not permit that.

exemptions are meant to discriminate - some pay more, some pay nothing - by design.
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post Oct 24 2015, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 24 2015, 01:13 PM)
1. Both WTI Crude n Brent Crude close @ 44.60 n 47.99
2. China cut rates n reserves
USD/MYR shld b heading to 4.30 next week?
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after reading a few more int'l reports, i am inclined to think rm will go >4.30 by end of next week.

whether 4.30 or 4.40, i will not short usd now. tongue.gif
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post Oct 24 2015, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 24 2015, 06:38 PM)
there are too many factors affecting USS/MYR, so it is hard to tell.

but if u see how crazy RM bounce from 4.4 to 4.1 weeks ago just for a very small "good news", there is a good chance that RM priced-in as well as in oversold territory.

It is going to takes a whole lot of bad news so bad enough to move RM below current levels.
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But what would you have said when it went from 3.3 to 3.7, 3.7 to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.3? tongue.gif

I see it the other way round... Some small bad news will just drive to back to 4.3, 4.4.

Becos be it crude, cpo, budget, exports or tourism, there is nothing at this time to strengthen the rm but everything that's weakening it.
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post Oct 24 2015, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 24 2015, 07:09 PM)
3.3 to 3.8 takes a few months time & it is the beginning of bear trend which is usually fall fast.

3.8 to 4.3 drop within a month is actually the result of Bank negara trying to use reserve to hold 3.8 for months. (the market already price in it isnt worth 3.8). When BNM decide to let it go, u know what happen next. tongue.gif

Everyone already know RM is bad, they are generally priced in. What is missing is a serious bad news to surprise everyone to push it further below 4.4, if that is not coming I do not see a big swing move to RM, may be a slow grind downwards, but a move like 3.8-4.3 without reason? unlikely.
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Everyone has reasons to explain everything, ya? laugh.gif

Really, it is an individual game.... Just hold on to what you think is coming!

Somebody has to lose so that somebody else will gain.

Me, I just try not to lose to let crooked politicians and their supporters take my blood sweat and tears money.

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post Oct 24 2015, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 24 2015, 07:31 PM)
It is usually the surprise bad news that is going to make RM slide be it politician or anything economic related tongue.gif

Frankly speaking, it is just as risky to short RM right now vs long RM.  tongue.gif
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At this time, I see it 70:30 against the rm.

Anyway, good luck, we all need it. laugh.gif

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