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post Oct 11 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2015, 12:40 PM)
Oil price up when USD is weak
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more specifically, imo:

no rate hike = weak usd = rising crude price.

msia is 2nd largest world exporter of natural gas; gas prices lag crude by 6 months.

if crude continues to gain, rm will gain fast due to expectations of higher gas prices later.

if crude retreat, rm will fall fast too.

place yr bets! tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2015, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:09 PM)
Oil money looks like the single biggest determinant of RM direction now. If it increases to $60 by end of November, RM could very well breach the resistance of 4.00.
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dec 2014, crude 60, rm 3.3

may 2015 crude 60, rm 3.6

jul 2015 crude 55, rm 3.8

crude now 49.50.

i would expect:

crude 55, rm 4.0

crude 60, rm 3.8.

bijan chronicles still offers a hefty discount. tongue.gif

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:19 PM)
but our so-called ministers say malaysia not oil exporter  whistling.gif
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that's a half truth.

small net crude exporter, neutral on total oil products, large gas exporter.

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post Oct 11 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:45 PM)
if not mistaken, gas price are "lag" 6mth from crude oil price?  hmm.gif  icon_question.gif
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that's what all analysts been saying.
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post Oct 11 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:51 PM)
so it's true?  hmm.gif
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more like directionally correct, some correlation, not always.

gas production is not crude production; gas price contacts may be very different; far less gas importers than crude.
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post Oct 11 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 11 2015, 05:46 PM)
RM3.80 ?  shocking.gif

Too good to be true....  tongue.gif

If oil $100 and bijan issue is solved, then RM3.00 ? tongue.gif
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i think 3.8 is possible - if crude returns to >60.

but i doubt 60 is easy to get to unless opec and the rest cut production like hell.

not likely in next yr as they will lose volume and suffer just the same.

of course, i am assuming no change in bijan money wasting/songlap projects.

100 and bijan gone... there'll be bijan2, bijan100. tongue.gif

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post Oct 11 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2015, 06:04 PM)
The recovery of USD/MYR is extremely fast especially tis week as compared to depreciation which is on gradual basis
Interesting to watch next week trading session
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and i think this is where it gets dangerous... laugh.gif

after a couple fo weeks of crude and stock prices rise, many start to think the worst if over, all is going up.

i have my fears after reading what the IMF just said and the dangers lurking in usa's pension funds decay as a result of years of low int rate. even hedge funds are not doing well.

stay vigilant... gales and storms came and went.

a hurricane or tornado may be in the making. tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Roger89 @ Oct 11 2015, 07:47 PM)
Add more USD guys, this is not the end of the USD rally against EM currencies.
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if u read these new IMF reports, u'll definitely want to keep more $. tongue.gif

IMF warns of new threat posed by emerging economies
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34465290
China poses threat to global growth, IMF warns
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34136747
IMF cuts forecast for global growth
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34455408
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post Oct 12 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 11 2015, 11:32 PM)
Nobody knows the causes that set the ups or downs of RM. Its like gambling now. Even inaction is a gamble now
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fundamental longer term causes are known; trading nations can't escape global financial market efficiency.

but... yes, there is lots of speculation and gambling at this time given such excellent conditions provided by world uncertainties and local politics. in contrast, we see sgd, thb, php a lot more stable.

last week probably saw rm overbuying, overshot.

now profit taking despite crude still inching up. but i think it will return to tracking crude by end of day.

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KUALA LUMPUR: The ringgit opened softer against the US dollar today on profit taking after last week’s rally, dealers said.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...inst-us-dollar/


just don't gamble too much, ya? laugh.gif

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post Oct 12 2015, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 12 2015, 05:54 PM)
I see a very highly-correlated movement here between crude price wtih USDMYR and SGDMYR.
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i told u so! seen this thru n thru.

forget tourism, trade surplus or even fx reserves. tongue.gif

really, in the absence of other factors like fed, china and bijan, crude price is driving the rm.

but do watch the exotic bijan chronicles - i got a hunch something big is brewing there - can swing big either way.

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post Oct 13 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 13 2015, 11:37 AM)
As per my post last week,... this morning, about two-third of the economists Bloomberg surveyed said that the MAS will be forced to ease tomorrow, but in what form is not made known.

For me, I am nor really concerned about which of the three forms they will take, or what combination of the forms thereto. I am more concerned of the SGD will really weaken for me to buy more, when will it weaken and will it weaken long enough for me to buy-in...

As per Maybank's forex - TT Sell - the cheapest to buy the SGD was back on Oct 9 - 2.9730.

The window of purchase will be small, or will be unpredictable of when the window will come.

Long live the Singapore Dollar !
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if u r right and markets are factoring this in, sgx stock and reit prices should rise by now.
but i see stock prices down but reit price going up... any thoughts on this? hmm.gif

passed by money changer today, buy sgd at 3.00, no cheap! biggrin.gif



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post Oct 13 2015, 03:08 PM

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crude... 47.50, rm 4.18x.
aug 31, sep 17. crude 47.50, rm 4.19.
very tight correlation.
if crude falls below 47 tonite, rm will go >4.20 tmrw.

most unlikely for crude to return to 60 or 40 in the near future.
most likely to stick around 45-48 like it has since sep 1.
so, rm most likely to stay around 4.15-4.25.
in the absence of major developments.

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post Oct 13 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 13 2015, 03:11 PM)
I don't have access to an internet terminal now. What was the reading this morning on China Trade Balance ? Worse than August's number ?
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China's dollar-denominated exports fell 3.7 percent in September from a year earlier, while imports plunged 20.4 percent to chalk up their eleventh consecutive month of decline, official data showed on Tuesday.


shanghai finished a touch green, sti -0.8%.
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post Oct 13 2015, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 13 2015, 03:38 PM)
Analysts and Hedge Funds are betting on crude price improving next year,... from which month onwards is unsure.
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opec and hedge funds are, so far.

goldman is not.

latest, iea is not.

so, all is unclear - that's a certainty. biggrin.gif

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Oil demand growth to slow, IEA says, but is OPEC listening?
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/13/oil-demand-...-listening.html

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post Oct 13 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 13 2015, 05:00 PM)
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...band/?style=biz

possible move of MAS, which wan you like?
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Singapore is about to enter technical recession
"Exports and industrial output have slumped hard alongside port activity as a consequence of China wobbles exacerbating global demand deficiency. And while not as dire as externally-focused activity, domestic demand has also been dented by a confluence of softer credit growth, labor supply constraints and broader economic drag from the cooling property market," Vishnu Varathan, senior economist at Mizuho Bank, wrote in a note released Monday.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/12/singapore-t...-recession.html

what is interesting is the troubles sg has are the same as msia except msia has no "labor supply constraint" - >200k jobless grads and millions of foreign workers and more ready to come.

the thing to watch out is how long will it take for msia to slip into recession as well.

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post Oct 13 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 13 2015, 05:02 PM)
Ringgit to weaken between RM4.45 and RM4.50 if China devalues yuan

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...yuan/?style=biz
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china WILL devalue again if its exports and stock market get worse further.

and...UK economy falls into deflation in September (heck, and we're inflating too much - gst, toll hikes, rm depr... sad.gif )

crude now <47, rm likely to go >4.20 tmrw.



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post Oct 13 2015, 11:28 PM

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thought this is interesting, just to share...

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Global wealth shrinks for the first time since Lehman
Jenny Cosgrave | @jenny_cosgrave
1 Hour Ago
CNBC.com

Sharp swings in the currency markets have taken their toll on overall global wealth, shrinking it for the first time since the global financial crisis.

But while the overall pool of cash has declined, the gap between rich and poor has widened, with the top 1 percent of global wealth holders now in possession of 50 percent of all household assets in the world, according to the annual Credit Suisse global wealth report.

Total wealth has doubled since 2000, with a fivefold rise in China and lower, but still rapid, growth in India according to the research.
"Wealth inequality changes slowly over time, so it is difficult to identify the drivers of these trends. However, the value of financial assets – especially company securities – is likely to be an important factor because wealthier individuals hold a disproportionate share of their assets in financial form," the report found.

Total global wealth decreased by $12.4 trillion to $250.1 trillion, with the strength of the U.S. dollar weighing on the overall global wealth picture, as when valued in U.S. dollars, net worth fell in every region except China and North America.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/13/global-weal...nce-lehman.html


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post Oct 14 2015, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 13 2015, 11:22 PM)
Start to long MYR
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long rm = long crude = no fed hike

sure or not? biggrin.gif

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post Oct 14 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 14 2015, 08:39 AM)
Good morning to all.

I don't get it,... you said you are of the view earlier: crude now <47, rm likely to go >4.20 tmrw.

So, it means crude will start another drop, and RM will be starting another bout of weakening. If you are a currency trader, you should start to sell the RM now since it commands more USD, and stocks up more USD as the USD appreciates.

As we speak, the RM has weakened this morning.
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i was asking why wiliam want to long rm now...

yep, crude 46.70... rm approaching 4.23.

china continues to show weak data.
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The producer price index (PPI) fell 5.9 percent, in line with expectations and after a 5.9 percent fall in the previous month.

The PPI, which measures wholesale prices, clocked its 43rd straight month of declines as overcapacity in a number of sectors coupled with a lack of demand kept a lid on prices.

crude has room to move further to below 46 below stabilizing this round.

rm should then cross 4.30... again.

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post Oct 14 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 14 2015, 09:05 AM)
SG easing but SGD gaining vs USD? 1.3997    rclxub.gif
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gdp better than expected, confidence still good, mas move not agressive enough...

sgd strengthens! biggrin.gif

1.397, 3.026.
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 13 2015, 06:01 PM)
seriously  cry.gif
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the case for more china easing is building up:

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China’s Lingering Deflation Risks Offer Room For More Easing
  Bloomberg News
October 14, 2015 — 9:31 AM MYT Updated on October 14, 2015 — 10:02 AM MYT

Food price inflation slows to 2.7%, non-food prices rise 1%
Factory gate deflation reflects commodity price declines

China’s consumer inflation moderated and factory gate deflation extended a record stretch of declines, signaling the People’s Bank of China still has room to ease monetary policy further to support a slowing economy.
The consumer-price index increased 1.6 percent in September from a year earlier, slowing from a 2 percent rise in August and compared with a 1.8 percent median estimate in a Bloomberg survey. The producer-price index fell 5.9 percent, extending its streak of negative readings to 43 months, the National Bureau of Statistics said Wednesday.

With consumer inflation well below the government target of 3 percent all year, the central bank has further capacity to spur lending even after cutting interest rates five times since November. A property downturn has capped prices for households, while industrial overcapacity, a commodities rout and sluggish global demand have weighed on factory prices. Asian stocks retreated with industrial metals and the Australian dollar declined.
"It’s clear that price pressures are on the deflationary side," said Xu Gao, chief economist at Everbright Securities Co. in Beijing. "As consumer prices moderate, the PBOC will continue to expand credit."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...for-more-easing


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