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anudora
post Sep 14 2015, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 08:31 PM)
I know where  tongue.gif

Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB), state-owned Employees Pension Fund (EPF) and Khazanah Nasional Berhad.
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Yeah just read about it.
My EPF Money!!!!!!!!!!
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post Sep 14 2015, 08:33 PM

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DEFINITION of 'Trade Surplus'

An economic measure of a positive balance of trade, where a country's exports exceeds its imports. A trade surplus represents a net inflow of domestic currency from foreign markets, and is the opposite of a trade deficit, which would represent a net outflow.


BREAKING DOWN 'Trade Surplus'

When a nation has a trade surplus, it has control over the majority of its own currency. This causes a reduction of risk for another nation selling this currency, which causes a drop in its value. When the currency loses value, it makes it more expensive to purchase imports, causing an even a greater imbalance.

Because a trade surplus usually creates a situation where the surplus only grows (due to the rise in the value of the nations currency making imports cheaper), there are many arguments against Milton Friedman's belief that trade imbalances will correct themselves naturally.


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trade-surplus.asp , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_trade and

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/balance-of-trade


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post Sep 14 2015, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 14 2015, 05:52 PM)
we'll see if this valuecap will be able to keep prices high or simply allow foreigners to get out at better prices.

seems no effect on rm today.

notice epf is in there? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 05:56 PM)
so PNB, EPF & Khazanah equally "own" ValueCap  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 08:31 PM)
I know where  tongue.gif

Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB), state-owned Employees Pension Fund (EPF) and Khazanah Nasional Berhad.
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QUOTE(anudora @ Sep 14 2015, 08:32 PM)
Yeah just read about it.
My EPF Money!!!!!!!!!!
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unker dreamer's prediction is coming true notworthy.gif
nexona88
post Sep 14 2015, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(blogomatic @ Sep 14 2015, 08:35 PM)
unker dreamer's prediction is coming true  notworthy.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 08:42 PM

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History of MYR increased Rm1.00 towards USD..
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post Sep 14 2015, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(anudora @ Sep 14 2015, 08:22 PM)
OMG!!! EPF inside.....my money!!!!!!!
Really prop up something at the expense of the people!
My hope did not come true.
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Incorrect as Valuecap is equally owned by Khazanah Nasional Berhad, Kumpulan Wang Persaraan (Diperbadankan) and Permodalan Nasional Berhad
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:10 PM

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some report say EPF, another report say KWAP @ gov staff pension fund blink.gif rclxub.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(anudora @ Sep 14 2015, 08:22 PM)
Told you already that the best measure they can come up is to prop up something using money.
But donno where the money come from. RM 20 Billion!
How will this affect the Budget? More deficit? That is why you dont see any effect on USDMYR.

OMG!!! EPF inside.....my money!!!!!!!
Really prop up something at the expense of the people!
My hope did not come true.
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ya, that much we can be sure of.

with a mighty budget and thousands employed in the dept, think tanks, task forces, committees, there r always only 3 possibilities:

.. more tax, more gst
.. use of epf n other pensions funds.
.. more debt

maybe, if lucky, can get 100bil donation from an alien nation. tongue.gif

never will there be a cut in the budgets for civil service, pm's dept, defense purchases, br1m, etc.

the party is still on, so u know which way the rm will go.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Sep 14 2015, 09:26 PM
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 05:56 PM)
so PNB, EPF & Khazanah equally "own" ValueCap  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(anudora @ Sep 14 2015, 08:22 PM)
Told you already that the best measure they can come up is to prop up something using money.
But donno where the money come from. RM 20 Billion!
How will this affect the Budget? More deficit? That is why you dont see any effect on USDMYR.

OMG!!! EPF inside.....my money!!!!!!!
Really prop up something at the expense of the people!
My hope did not come true.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 08:31 PM)
I know where  tongue.gif

Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB), state-owned Employees Pension Fund (EPF) and Khazanah Nasional Berhad.
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QUOTE(anudora @ Sep 14 2015, 08:32 PM)
Yeah just read about it.
My EPF Money!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 08:37 PM)
sad.gif  cry.gif
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Folks,

You have no choice but to pay EPF. This tied up 20+% of your gross income.

But, DUMMIES will top up their ASx VOLUNTARY and put money into PNB to support the bailout. There will be more rounds of ASx. And, you can count on the DUMMIES to put more of their money in.

How much COMMON SENSE does a person need to UNDERSTAND this SIMPLE statement??

Do not put all your eggs into ONE basket.

Dreamer

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post Sep 14 2015, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 14 2015, 09:23 PM)
never will there be a cut in the budgets for civil service, pm's dept, defense equipment, br1m, etc.
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Nvr cut on bonus to civil servants too as a lot of private sector(s) freeze increment n bonus


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post Sep 14 2015, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:25 PM)
Folks,

You have no choice but to pay EPF.  This tied up 20+% of your gross income.

But, DUMMIES will top up their ASx VOLUNTARY and put money into PNB to support the bailout.  There will be more rounds of ASx.  And, you can count on the DUMMIES to put more of their money in.

How much COMMON SENSE does a person need to UNDERSTAND this SIMPLE statement??

Do not put all your eggs into ONE basket.

Dreamer
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well if they do "open" another round of ASx. I'm not buying wink.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:45 PM)
well if they do "open" another round of ASx. I'm not buying  wink.gif
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nexona88,

Meanwhile, your existing ASx holding are being killed by USD/MYR drop...

Dreamer
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post Sep 14 2015, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:57 PM)
nexona88,

Meanwhile, your existing ASx holding are being killed by USD/MYR drop...

Dreamer
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Not just ASx lah, almost everything valued in MYR would be affected. Unless u diversified to overseas (as long as their currencies appreciate substantially against MYR).
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post Sep 15 2015, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:25 PM)
Folks,

You have no choice but to pay EPF.  This tied up 20+% of your gross income.

Do not put all your eggs into ONE basket.

Dreamer
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The above statements are true onlyif you are 50 and below. For those 'lucky' ones who have reached 50 yrs of age, they can withdraw all from their Account 2. For those who have reached 55 years of age they can withdraw all from the EPF.

This post has been edited by Hansel: Sep 15 2015, 08:08 AM
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post Sep 15 2015, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 14 2015, 10:38 PM)
Not just ASx lah, almost everything valued in MYR would be affected. Unless u diversified to overseas (as long as their currencies appreciate substantially against MYR).
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True,... but the difference here is you can move your ASX out if you wished to. You can't demand for your salary or your fees be paid in the USD, and you can't take out all your money from the EPF if you have not reached the required age.
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post Sep 15 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:25 PM)

Do not put all your eggs into ONE basket.

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post Sep 15 2015, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 15 2015, 08:11 AM)
True,... but the difference here is you can move your ASX out if you wished to.
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Hansel,

Which does not help if a person only move money out of ASx after RM drop XX%.

It is like the famous saying:

closing the stable door after the horse has bolted

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post Sep 15 2015, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 15 2015, 08:19 AM)
Hansel,

Which does not help if a person only move money out of ASx after RM drop XX%. 

It is like the famous saying:

closing the stable door after the horse has bolted

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Dreamer,...

One is not able to move ALL money out of the country that easily. There are just that many things 'tied' to this country, from your earlier eg : can you move out your EPF funds if you have not reached the required age ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 15 2015, 08:21 AM)
Dreamer,...

One is not able to move ALL money out of the country that easily. There are just that many things 'tied' to this country, from your earlier eg : can you move out your EPF funds if you have not reached the required age ?
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What dreamer is saying is EPF have no choice. Others one is given a choice to invest in GLC or not. Dreamer is asking us NOT to invest in GLC but remove that money and dump it overseas or simply hold cold hard cash under out pillow.
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post Sep 15 2015, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 15 2015, 08:21 AM)
Dreamer,...

One is not able to move ALL money out of the country that easily. There are just that many things 'tied' to this country, from your earlier eg : can you move out your EPF funds if you have not reached the required age ?
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Hansel,

I did not say ALL MONEY. I specifically say ASx. Do not add in words that are not in my post.

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