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post Oct 11 2015, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 11 2015, 04:15 AM)
Folks,

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=MYR&view=1M

Look at exchange rate chart.  MYR start to recover after TPPA reached agreement at 10/5...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/business...ached.html?_r=0

It might be a co-incidence..  But, I do not think so.  So, take advantage of this while TPPA is in the process of being pass by THE GOVERNMENT.

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Unker, the TPPA/RM thing is your own conspiracy theory or there are some good articles you read about ?

Why only RM appreciate so much while the other 10 TPPA currencies do not enjoy the "benefits" ? And Indonesia is not part of the TPPA but also enjoyed the "benefits" ?
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post Oct 11 2015, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 11 2015, 09:16 AM)
Showtime747,

<< while the other 10 TPPA currencies do not enjoy the "benefits" ?>>

Are you sure??

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=AUD&view=1M

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=NZD&view=1M
RM appreciate the most. Indonesia second. Indonesian is not a part of the pact. From USD point of view, it is more towards the interpretation of the minutes of FOMC meeting being made public than TPPA.

Just wonder why do you think USA depreciation is a "benefit" to other countries in TPPA ? In what way does the depreciation help the other countries ?



QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 11 2015, 09:16 AM)
Yes, it is my own theory.. 
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 11 2015, 09:16 AM)
We will know for sure soon enough.  Let's see what happened to those currencies after TPPA is signed...  We will know in a few months..

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TPPA takes time to sign. Before that, oil price, 2016 budget, political development and economic numbers in malaysia, china+USA news and annoucement (especially from FED) will affect the direction of RM ahead of the signing

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post Oct 11 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:41 AM)


Do you believe it will be easier or harder for THE GOVERNMENT to pass TPPA if the RM keep on dropping against USD?? Ditto for New Zealand, Australia and so on..


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High AUD and NZD is not good for commodity export economies like them.

I don't think TPPA has such immediate effect on the currency. You MAY have over-analysed
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post Oct 11 2015, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 11 2015, 11:50 AM)
unker dreamer don't believe in oil money
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Oil money looks like the single biggest determinant of RM direction now. If it increases to $60 by end of November, RM could very well breach the resistance of 4.00. If a Russian missile mis-fires into one of the oil well in Iraq or Iran, then $80, $100 also a possibility.

Then unker's prediction of 4.7/4.8 by year end is colder than water
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post Oct 11 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 11 2015, 11:55 AM)
i think so too.

fed's minutes were the key driver, driving up crude (up 10%) and commodities prices up since - this is major impact, i'll say.

it is possible tppa news had a hand in moving commodity prices but since crude as the big brother of commodities is very global, i would think at best tppa effect is minor.

indon not in tppa but rupiah actually gained more than the rm in the last week. so did rouble.

mexico and chile gained less, peru even less - all three in tppa.
tppa is agreed but not signed, will be much later.

fed is now expected to "do nothing" for now.

i will rather watch crude price as a guide where the usd/rm will go.
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Yes, in short term FED looks like not moving, and leave it to commodity prices.

Just a few days, the outlook is different already. Very interesting !
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2015, 01:14 PM)
Unker will reply now v r in marathon
U could b leading now but lets c who cross finishing line 1st  brows.gif
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Like that forever no winner or loser liao tongue.gif

The finish line is set - end of the year rclxms.gif
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post Oct 11 2015, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 11 2015, 01:41 PM)
dec 2014, crude 60, rm 3.3

may 2015 crude 60, rm 3.6

jul 2015 crude 55, rm 3.8

crude now 49.50.

i would expect:

crude 55, rm 4.0

crude 60, rm 3.8.

bijan chronicles still offers a hefty discount. tongue.gif

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RM3.80 ? shocking.gif

Too good to be true.... tongue.gif

If oil $100 and bijan issue is solved, then RM3.00 ? tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2015, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 11 2015, 05:59 PM)
i think 3.8 is possible - if crude returns to >60.

but i doubt 60 is easy to get to unless opec and the rest cut production like hell.

not likely in next yr as they will lose volume and suffer just the same.

of course, i am assuming no change in bijan money wasting/songlap projects.

100 and bijan gone... there'll be bijan2, bijan100. tongue.gif
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In bijan-1, RM was even RM2.9xxx. But that was QE time....

A lot of uncertainty now. No clear direction as any time news appear can change the course. The opinion in this thread alone is diverse.
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post Oct 11 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 11 2015, 06:19 PM)
We must decide if truly the MYR is tightly coupled with the price of crude next week. Crude has stopped appreciating in the last four days. And I don't see any news that will 'catalise' a further appreciation in the price of crude next.

Well,.... it is highly unlikely that crude will reach USD100/bbl in the near future,.... biggrin.gif

Bijan issues - hard to say,... but never crude price.
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Nobody knows the causes that set the ups or downs of RM. Its like gambling now. Even inaction is a gamble now
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post Oct 11 2015, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 11 2015, 08:34 PM)
Please do not post any political matter in the finance section.
If political risk could cause RM movement, just stated so as "political risk" the end and no further more.

Those further discussion should not be in the finance section.

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Huh ? shocking.gif

It is a fact that the 11b/42b company has a bearing on the direction of RM. Even Zeti acknowledged it. Bijan's saga causes forex reserves to come down is a fact also. Even some minister mention "trust deficit"

Politics is very difficult to be separated from national financing issue like RM depreciation. If no details is given, then the discussion may not be clear and meaningful

If it can be mentioned in RWI, it should be able to mention it here as long as it is related to the title of the thread
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 11:42 PM)
I guess it's a mix of higher crude oil, budget 2016, TPPA & hot money back to EM  icon_rolleyes.gif
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You sounds like unker liao. While unker put no time frame, you put every possible factors that affect RM movement. Both of you will never go wrong tongue.gif
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...later-this-year

A new piece of news emerge and US$ outlook will turn again. Today stock market will be down also ? doh.gif

If "some hands" are involved for TPPA, then he should be keeping quiet.
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post Oct 14 2015, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 14 2015, 02:42 PM)
Aud not good
Sgd not good due to easing (but it actually rises significant right now)
Yuan not good (as may devalue)
Yen Euro not good due to QE.
Emerging currencies not good due to commodities slump.
Gold also not good
Equities market also not good.

Everything not good then.  laugh.gif
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Seems like true, but for an optimist,

AUD is good when China recovers
SGD is good because they have inflation to worry if SGD too low, so they can't devalue too low
Yuan will be better than RM as when Yuan devalue, RM will follow too. Yuan cannot be worse than RM
Euro is good as now no more crisis like Grexit and they are recovering slowly. GBP is having low unemployment
EM has the potential when commodities recover, like oil now
Gold is good if US and Russia clashes in Middle East, like Afganistan in the 80s
Equity market for USA will soar when U.S. increase rates - proof that their economy is good
And RM is good too when the political noises in the countries are solved

Depends on how an individual investors see the future tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 14 2015, 03:17 PM)
good point!

at this time, it's more about how to lose less and not lose more! laugh.gif
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Can solve the lose-lose situation. In order not to lose now, he has to pick a position and gamble. No position now is not a strategy. Volatile market actually means opportunity thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 14 2015, 06:28 PM)
i think u, i and many others know - if do nothing and keep blood sweat n tears savings in rm/bursa/fd/local unit trusts, the result is simply joining the masses of the world, lost significant real net worth.
yes, must take a position! rclxms.gif

overall, my bet is still with #1 usd, #2, sgd.
aud - i will dive in when china shows a rebound - particularly BHP stock now at 5 yr low.
right now, all indicators still showing decline, weakness - no rush.

小心驶得万年船 - carefully sail 10,000 years. laugh.gif
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Ya, SGD, USD, GBP, EUR, JPY is the less riskier ones, although still a gamble.

I still see 2 long long Q at LG mid valley money changer be it RM stronger or weaker. The money changer must be having at least RM10m turnover a day. People still switching to forex. They are taking position and feel better with "diversification", although I doubt their amount is big. But still a move is better than none tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Oct 14 2015, 11:02 PM)
Is it too late to take positions?
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Many people asked me the same question when RM broke the historical 3.80 a few months ago
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Thread becomes cold tongue.gif

Maybe people feel it is not a threat anymore and RM will improve ?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 17 2015, 06:07 PM)
Next Fri 2016 Budget could b the new catalyst for USD/MYR
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I think people are reactive to crisis, rather than proactive. Now that RM shows some strength, they thought the crisis is over and problem solved tongue.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 22 2015, 11:14 AM)
the 3 big moves:

1. crude price - low, now at 45.40
2. budget 2016 - d-day fri tmrw, see if it's rm helping or rm busting
3. bijan chronicles - see if there'll be arrests soon, incl dr m

rm now 4.296.
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I think now market waiting for fresh leads. Many people wait and see. Including myself tongue.gif

Read somewhere budget 2016 going to increase tax ? (cannot find where I read already...)
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 22 2015, 06:09 PM)
Bank Negara's international reserves at US$94.1b as at 15 October 2015.
The reserves position is sufficient to finance 8.8 months of retained imports and is 1.2 times the short-term external debt
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Looks like the current level 4.20-4.30 is stable, no more exodus of foreign funds and already factoring in the domestic political issues and economic fundamentals

Only oil price will have the short term effect on RM. And budget this Friday should be positive for the RM. Until the FED interest rate threat resurface

Could be back down to 4.00 or even 3.xx if political issues are resolved by year end and FED's direction is no more an uncertainty.

Unker's prediction 4.7-4.8 looks vulnerable now...

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