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 USD/MYR drop, V2

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post Nov 11 2015, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 11 2015, 12:34 PM)
Unker Dreamer TP of 4.70 year end would be achieved or not  brows.gif
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If I don't put in my signature, everyone forget already tongue.gif

I think unker will lose. Because unty will not increase rates. ASx people is not dumb after all. In fact if RM stay below 4.40, it was a good decision not to convert to USD at that time
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post Nov 11 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 11 2015, 03:38 PM)
let's try this:

TODAY.

if u have rm50k, will u buy usd (zero int) at 4.38?

or put in asx or fd or bursa or something else but local?
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Neither. I will convert to SGD and transfer to Singapore and put in SGX when those bank stock/telco/reits fall further tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2015, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 11 2015, 07:11 PM)
I will convert one-third into the SGD and invest into the SGX and into the other new vehicle.

I will convert another third into the USD and invest into USD-denominated High-Yield Bonds Funds with the underlyings of US-based companies.

I will convert the last third into the Euros and invest into Euro-denominated High-Yield Bonds Funds with the underlyings of Europe-based companies.
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All these using RM50k ? shocking.gif
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 12 2015, 10:47 AM)
how will "domestic issues" be resolved?
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Following the "rumours" last time, the update says the "domestic issues" will be solved by 1H16 when "the company" passes the debt to other companies and wind down the exposure. This is the only worry by foreign funds now. Other fundamentals like current account, budget deficit, inflation, unemployment, etc will go back to the "old normal". By then, RM will back to stable like past few years and only the usual external factors like oil price, USD rates hike, Euro/Japan/China QE will affect the RM drastically

The above is from my "source", who predicted <4.00 by 1H16. Sounds plausible to me
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2015, 11:10 AM)
After wiping 1MDB's arse and cleaning it, ALL will be well. And they are using the perceived increase in NTA to clean up the mess.
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He told me that is the single most important issue to solve now. And they are facing a "do or die" maneuver because "someone" is chasing them hot on their arse. Foreign funds and rating agencies do not care about other "domestic issues" like 2.6b, but this "systematic threat" to them will affect the whole financial system.

Yes, "the company" will eventually be downsizing, make some decent profits and is asset rich instead of deep in debt after the restructuring

I believe there will be other new issues crop up after the conclusion of this episode. Which will bring up a new set of drama. Until then, it will be a big sigh of relieve for everyone
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 12 2015, 11:10 AM)
at this time, you don't think it will get worse better it gets better? biggrin.gif
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Don't know leh....I think Fed rates hike and oil price will still affect the RM very much. According to my source, the restructuring will be done, just a matter of time. If he is true, then RM will be back to <4.00, all else being equal

With the recent obvious government moves to cut down subsidies, mooting GST rate increase, tol rates, sin taxes rise and all those unpopular policies, they seemed to be more interested to please the foreign funds and rating agencies than their voters. Maybe they think there is still time before the next election

If all these are taken into account, I think RM will not be worse off than now
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 12 2015, 11:14 AM)
1H16 = 16/11 or 16/12?
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2015, 11:30 AM)
Sorry

Are you saying its not 1MDB, but something else?
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Its "the company" everybody (including you) is talking about now tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2015, 11:33 AM)
Our gomen thrives on DEBT. They have to be pleasing the foreign ex colonists of rating agencies.
Otherwise its high borrowing coming in.
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Exactly. They cannot afford a rating downgrade. A rough calculation - interest cost will be RM6b for every 1% (assuming RM600b debt). If MGS become junks, then it could be 6-8% (?) difference from now

The effect to the economy will definitely bring them down from power

The pressure from foreign funds and rating agencies is definitely greater than their rural voters
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post Nov 12 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2015, 11:34 AM)
My guess is inflate the property prices.

Get several GLCs to acquire them and walah!  Problem solved
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If you can think of this, so will they thumbup.gif
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post Nov 12 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2015, 11:48 AM)
See?

A sochai like can be gomen!    laugh.gif
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They are not sochai. In fact they are very smart. In the sense that they know who matters the most to them

Contrary to most of us believe, "his" position is very secured. No one can touch him now. He actually sleeps very soundly at night. He has his grassroot firmly behind his back. Depending on the situation closer to GE14, he can choose to continue or pass the baton to his own people. He can "cross control" them just in case any one of them go against his will, one can replace the other. He already has this plan B. If he thinks the 2.6 issue fades away before 2018, then he will carry on with the desired plan A

Now all he needs to do is manage the "elders" and "foreign funds and credit agencies". Urban voters is the least of his worries. Tol will not affect them. Subsidies like petrol, rice, electricity etc can be reimburse through brim. Whereas GST increase will make the credit agencies happy

Looking at his position and what he can do, RM appreciation will be the by product

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 12 2015, 12:14 PM)
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but... the demi god has been at it for >1 yrs now. rm still going down wor... tongue.gif
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Yes, the sh*t is caused by the demi god, and must be solved by the demi god tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kerbau @ Nov 12 2015, 12:38 PM)
So am guessing whatever can be dug out abt the donations cannot touch him in anyway inside this country?
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Looks like it. He plays the game very well
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post Nov 13 2015, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 13 2015, 08:13 AM)
Why is RM thingy affecting you?

i am sending 2 children to Aus. That's how it's affecting me.  sad.gif
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Look at the 10 year AUD/MYR chart. You are still below the highs between 2009-2013. RM strengthen only since 2013-2015. Aussie dollar is still relatively low compare to US$/SGD/RMB/GBP

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 13 2015, 08:47 AM)
Aussie fundamental actually is much weaker than RM.

Slow growth, low interest rate (potential being cut further), current account deficit, trade balance deficit.
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Actually both countries are affected by commodity prices. Both currencies closely move in roughly same direction. Maybe affected by data such as the recent job creation numbers or political deveopment

I would prefer AUD to RM over long term. But because of the tax laws, investments other than own stay residence in Australia is putting me off


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post Nov 13 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 13 2015, 09:52 AM)
Over long term i would place my bet on SGD. The up trend has never been broken.
Whereas AUD has fluctuated a bit vs MYR.
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Agree. I remember a few months back in my reply to you about USD/AUD/GBP/SGD which is better, I said I would rather put my investment funds in SGD on Singapore soil. But if only have the choice of AUD vs RM over long term, I would choose AUD
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 13 2015, 10:51 AM)
Yes, Sgd is one of most stable currency, but it gives almost no interest throughout.

I converted to SGD at about (about 2.50) on 2008 years ago, the interest rate was so low across, basically earn less than 2% over the 7 years period.

Today it becomes 3.05 + 2% = 3.11 worth

compared to 2.50 of RM that placed with average 3.x%  now compounded (total up about 23%) now roughly worth 3.08.

I merely gain much 0.03 by holding Sgd, over the 7 years period, unless one just converted last year at about 2.6~2.7 time, then different story.
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Convert to SGD for FD interest would definitely give low return. Have to take more risk like stock market to achieve higher returns
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 13 2015, 11:02 AM)
Wow,... so many are confident abt the republic (me included, I believed I was one of the first to signal out in this forum of the everlasting strength of the SGD throughout the years).  rclxms.gif

However, as in everything, will Sgp ever fall due to any reason,... and the SGD depreciates badly ?
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Possibilities are always there. Maybe when a new government is voted in and the new people are not tried and tested and screw up the whole economy ?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 13 2015, 11:09 AM)
if sg/sgd screws up big time, what u think will happen in msia/rm? biggrin.gif
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The screw up in msia/rm is happening right before our eyes tongue.gif

So if there is a new government in Singapore, I will flee sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 13 2015, 06:06 PM)
USD/MYR close:4.37947 low:4.36226 high:4.39208
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Am surprised RM is holding up well even when WTI is 41.xx now. Not bad...

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