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post Sep 4 2015, 10:22 PM, updated 5y ago

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This is a thread to show off overclocking of your Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, Comet Lake and Rocket Lake CPU!
Please share your benchmark, stability, overclocking tips & guides etc...

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Introductions:

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Image Credits: <a href='https://benchlife.info/intel-500-series-chipset-z590-h570-h510-b560-specifications-summary/intel-z590-chipset-block-diagram/' target='_blank'>Benchlife[/url] NEW!

Z590 VRM List: NEW!
[OCN] Z490/Z590 VRM Discussion Thread

Z490 VRM List:
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Z390 VRM List:
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Monitoring Tools:
CPU-Z
RealTemp 3.70
RealTemp TI
CoreTemp
HWiNFO
HWMonitor RECOMMENDED for Temperature & Voltage Monitoring!
Speccy
MemTweakIt
ASRock Timing Configurator
Thaiphoon Burner - for checking RAM ICs in OS
ASUS TurboV Core
ASUS OC Tool

Stability/Stressing Tools:
LinX 0.6.5 (11.3.0.004)
Prime95 RECOMMENDED for CPU OC Stability!
Linpack
OCCT
Linpack Xtreme
RunMemTestPro 4.0 RECOMMENDED for RAM OC Stability!
Realbench v2.43
Realbench v2.56

Benchmarking Tools:
SuperPI Mod XS 1.5
HyperPI 0.99 Beta
AIDA64
Cinebench R15
Cinebench R15 Extreme Edition
Cinebench R20 NEW!!
Cinebench 11.5
wprime 2.09
pifast
maxxmem
AquaMark 3.1

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OC Tips & Guides

Z590: NEW!
[HWBot] ASUS Z590 OC Guide
[OCN] ASRock Z590 OC Guide

Z490:
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Z390:
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Z370:
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Z270:
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Z170:
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DRAM OC Guide: NEW!
[MemTestHelper] DDR4 OC Guide.md
cstkl1's 4266C17-RKL-BDIE-DR: Attached File  4266C17_RKL_BDIE_DR.pdf ( 1.33mb ) Number of downloads: 1898

cstkl1's 4800C19-RKL-DJR: Attached File  4800C19_RKL_DJR.pdf ( 1.01mb ) Number of downloads: 1847

cstkl1's How to reduce IOL and basically RTL/IOL guide: Attached File  cstkl1_How_to_reduce_IOL_and_basically_RTLIOL_guide.pdf ( 160.1k ) Number of downloads: 1658



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Latest News & Updates:

[HH] Intel Expands 9th Gen Core Portfolio With New Desktop CPUs Including Core i9-9900KF
[Anand] Playing Chicken: Kentucky Fried Intel Core i9-9900KFC Processor Listed
[Intel] Intel Delivers World's Fastest Gaming Processor NEW!
[VC] Intel 6C/12T Rocket Lake-S (11th Gen) CPU Spotted NEW!
[WCCFTech] Intel I225-V 2.5GbE Networking Affecting Z490, New B3 Rev Expected 2H 2020 NEW!

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Intel Core i7-10900K & Core i7-10700K Reviews: NEW!
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Intel Core i7-9900K & Core i7-9700K Reviews:
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Intel Core i7-8700K & Core i7-8600K Reviews:
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Intel Core i7-6700K & Core i5-6600K Reviews:
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Z490 Motherboard Reviews: NEW!
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DDR4 Reviews:

G.Skill
[OCer] G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3600MHz C17 2x4GB
[Proclockers] G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3000MHz C15 4x4GB
[Hexus] G.Skill Trident Z 16GB DDR4-3000
[OCD] G.Skill Ripjaws V 3000MHz C15 2x4GB
[OCX] G.Skill Trident Z Royal DDR4-4000C17D-16GTRS
[OCX] G.Skill DDR4-4600 C18 TridentZ RGB
[OCX] G.Skill FlareX DDR4-3200 C14-14-14-34

Corsair
[OCD] Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2800MHz C16 2x4GB
[Hexus] Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz C16 DDR4 4x4GB
[OC3D] Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB Series DDR4 Memory
[TH] Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB DDR4-3600 C16 Review: Bright Lights, Speed City

Team Group
[Clock'Em'Up] T-FORCE XTREEM DDR4-4500CL18 16GB

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Z490 RAM Compatibility (QVL): NEW!
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Corsair RAM IC:
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G.Skill RAM IC:
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BSOD Codes for OverClocking
BSOD code Message Action
0x124 WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR Add/remove Vcore or IMC voltage (usually Vcore, once it was IMC)
0x101 CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT Add Vcore
0x50 PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA RAM timings/Frequency, add RAM or IMC voltage
0x1E KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED Add Vcore
0x3B SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Add Vcore
0xD1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL Add IMC voltage
0x9C MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION IMC most likely, but increasing Vcore has helped in some instances
0x109 CRITICAL_STRUCTURE_CORRUPTION Add RAM voltage
0x0A IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL Add IMC voltage
0x1A MEMORY_MANAGEMENT It usually means a bad stick of RAM. Test with Memtest or whatever you prefer. Try raising RAM voltage. Can also mean more juice for the IMC
0x7E SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED Should do sfc /scannow
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General Qcode / Q-code / Post Code table for ASUS motherboards
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post Sep 4 2015, 10:23 PM

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Username | CPU | Highest OC | Motherboard | Cooling

LYN Rocket Lake Owners:

1) owikh84 | i9 11900K | 5.1GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Extreme | Custom WC
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LYN Comet Lake Owners:
1)
owikh84 | i9 10900K | 5.2 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus XII Formula | Custom WC
owikh84 | i9 10900K | 5.2 GHz | GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS Master | Custom WC

2) cstkl1 | i9 10900K | 5.3 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus XII Extreme | Custom WC

3) fezrul | i7 10700K | 5.2 GHz | ROG STRIX Z490-G GAMING (WI-FI) | Cooler?


LYN Coffee Lake Owners:

1) ALeUNe | i7 8700K | 5.0 GHz | MSI Z370M GAMING PRO AC | Corsair AIO 280MM

2)
owikh84 | i5 8600K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus X Apex | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 8700K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus X Apex | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 8700K | 5.3 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 8700K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 8700K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula | Custom WC
owikh84 | i9 9900K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus XI Gene | Custom WC
owikh84 | i9 9900K | 5.0 GHz | MSI MPG Z390i Gaming Edge AC | Custom WC
owikh84 | i9 9900KS | 5.2 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus XI Gene | Custom WC
owikh84 | i9 9900KS | 5.0 GHz | ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula | Custom WC

3)
keyo | i7 8700K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS TUF Z370-PLUS Gaming | Custom WC
keyo | i3 8350K | 4.9GHz | ASRock Z370 Fatal1ty Gaming K6 | Custom WC
keyo | i7 8700K | 5.1GHz | ASRock Z370 Fatal1ty Gaming K6 | Custom WC
keyo | i9 9900K | 5.0GHz | GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI-CF | Custom WC

4) koopa | Intel Core i7 8700K | 5.0 GHz | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X Hero | NZXT Kraken X52 AIO

5) Silverfire | 9700K | 4.9GHz | GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS Elite | NZXT Kraken X62 AIO

6) wongtheboy92 | 8700K | 5.0 GHz | ASRock Z370 Gaming-ITX/ac | CM Hyper 212 EVO

7) Diademz | 8700K | 5.0GHz | GIGABYTE AORUS Z390 PRO WIFI | Cooling?

8) wongtheboy92 | 8700K | 4.9 GHz | ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E GAMING | Cooling?


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LYN Kaby Lake Owners:

1) owikh84 | i7 7700K | 5.0 GHz | ASRock Z170 OC Formula | Custom WC

2) keyo | i7 7700K | 5.1 GHz | ASUS Z170M-PLUS | Custom WC

3) ah_khoo | Pentium G4560 | 3.6GHz | GIGABYTE Z170X-UD3-CF | Cooling?

4) bulibulizaimon | Intel Core i7 7700K | 5.2 GHz | Asus Strix Z270E | NZXT Kraken X52 push pull

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LYN Skylake Owners:

1) goldfries | i7 6700K | 4.6GHz @ 1.35v | ASRock Z170 Extreme4 | DeepCool Assassin II

2) terence_nwb | i7 6700K | 4.8GHz @ 1.404v | ASUS Maximus VIII Gene | Corsair Hydro H100i

3)
owikh84 | i5 6600K | 4.5GHz @ 1.376v | ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 6700K | 5.0GHz @ 1.536v | GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming G1 | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 6700K | 5.0GHz | ASUS Maximus VIII Extreme | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 6700K | 5.0GHz | ASRock Z170 OC Formula | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 6700K | 5.0GHz | ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming | Custom WC
owikh84 | i7 6700K | 5.0GHz | ASUS Z170i Pro Gaming | Custom WC

4) emy_xvidia | i7 6700K | 4.6MHz @1.31V | Asus Maximus VIII Hero | Corsair H110i GT

5) junkieG | i7 6700K | 4.8GHz | ASUS Maximus VIII Gene | Corsair H110 GT

6) lucidlts | i5 6600K | 4.9GHz | GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming 7 | Corsair H100i

7) ScivanShimitar | i7 6700K | 4.6GHz | GIGABYTE Z170XP-SLI | Cooling?

8) LeCat | i7 6700K | 4.6GHz | ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming | Swiftech H220-X

9) arffrhn | i5 6600K | 4.6GHz @ 1.32v | Aorus Z270X Gaming 5 | ID Cooling 240L

10) ah_khoo | i3 6300 | 4.5GHz @ 1.39v | GIGABYTE Z170X-UD3-CF | Air (GeminII M4 LP)

11) Skylinestar | i5 6500 | 4.257GHz | ASRock Z170 Gaming K6 | Cooling?

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DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability

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Username | RAM Model | DDR4 Frequency & Timing | vDIMM/ VCCSA/ VCCIO | Motherboard

1) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 2x8GB | DDR4-4500 CL19-19-19-39-2T | 1.45v/1.375v/1.3375v | ROG Maximus XI Gene

2) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 2x8GB | DDR4-4600 CL19-24-24-43-2T | 1.45v/1.425v/1.375v | ROG Maximus XI Gene

3) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 2x8GB | DDR4-4600 CL18-22-22-42-2T | 1.50v/1.45v/1.375v | ROG Maximus XI Gene

4) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 2x8GB | DDR4-4700 CL19-22-22-42-2T | 1.50v/1.55v/1.375v | ROG Maximus XI Gene

5) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4400 CL19-19-19-39-2T | 1.475v/1.30v/1.30v | ROG Maximus X Formula

6) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 2x8GB | DDR4-4700 CL19-22-22-42-2T | 1.50v/1.525v/1.400v | MSI MPG Z390i Gaming Edge AC

7) owikh84 | ADATA XPG Spectrix D80 DDR4-3600C17 2x8GB | DDR4-4600 CL19-24-24-42-2T | 1.50v/1.4625v/1.375v | ROG Maximus XI Gene

8) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 2x8GB | DDR4-4600 CL18-22-22-42-2T | 1.425v/1.36v/1.39v | ROG Maximus XI Gene

9) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4266 CL19-19-19-39-2T | 1.40v/1.25v/1.25v | ROG Maximus XI Formula

10) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4266 CL17-18-18-38-2T | 1.45v/1.25v/1.25v | ROG Maximus XI Formula

10) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4400 CL18-22-22-42-2T | 1.50v/1.40v/1.40v | ROG Maximus XI Formula

11) cstkl1 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3600C16 4x8GB | DDR4-4133 CL17-17-17-37-2T | 1.40v/1.28v/1.28v | ROG Maximus XII Extreme

12) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4133 CL17-17-17-37-2T | 1.40v/1.35v/1.30v | ROG Maximus XII Formula

13) cstkl1 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3600C16 2x8GB | DDR4-4400 17-18-18-37 | 1.45v/1.28v/1.28v | ROG Maximus XII Extreme

14) cstkl1 | G.Skill Trident Royal RGB DDR4-4000C17 2x16GB | DDR4-4400 18-18-18-38 | 1.40v/1.25v/1.25v | ROG Maximus XII Extreme

15) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4000C17 4x16GB | DDR4-4266 CL16-17-17-36-2T | 1.50v/1.25v/1.25v | ROG Maximus XII Formula

16) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4000C17 4x16GB | DDR4-4400 CL16-17-17-36-2T | 1.55v/1.35v/1.35v | ROG Maximus XII Formula

17) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4266 CL17-17-17-37-1T | 1.50v/1.35v/1.25v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

18) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4200 CL17-17-17-37-2T | 1.50v/1.26v/1.25v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

19) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4000C17 2x16GB | DDR4-3866 CL14-15-15-34-2T | 1.55v/1.50v/1.45v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

20) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4000C17 2x16GB | DDR4-4400 CL17-17-17-37-1T | 1.50v/1.35v/1.42v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

21) cstkl1 | G.Skill Trident Royal RGB DDR4-4000C17 2x16GB | DDR4-3866 14-15-15-28-2T | 1.50v/1.37v (LLC3)/1.38v | ROG Maximus XIII Apex

22) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266C19 4x8GB | DDR4-4133 CL17-17-17-37-2T | 1.40v/1.38v/1.30v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

23) cstkl1 | G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-4800C17 2x8GB | DDR4-3866 14-14-14-28-1T | 1.475v/1.35v/1.35v | ROG Maximus XIII Apex

24) cstkl1 | G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-4800C17 2x8GB | DDR4-5000 17-17-17-34-1T | 1.575v/1.40v/1.35v | ROG Maximus XIII Apex

25) cstkl1 | G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-4800C17 2x8GB | DDR4-3866 13-14-14-14-1T | 1.600v/1.45v/1.40v | ROG Maximus XIII Apex

26) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ Royal Elite DDR4-3600C14 4x8GB | DDR4-4133 CL17-17-17-37-2T | 1.40v/1.25v/1.20v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

27) owikh84 | G.Skill TridentZ Royal Elite DDR4-3600C14 4x8GB | DDR4-4133 CL16-16-16-36-2T | 1.45v/1.35v/1.30v | ROG Maximus XIII Extreme

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post Sep 5 2015, 12:56 AM

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Bro put up raja asus stuff. Very useful.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1568154/asus-no...-a-thread/0_100


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FIRST!!!!!

goldfries | Intel Core i7-6700K | 4.6Ghz @ 1.35v | ASRock Z170 Extreme4 | DeepCool Assassin II

The unit I have could reach 4.8Ghz and stay on Windows 10 fine but it is not stable.




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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 5 2015, 12:56 AM)
Bro put up raja asus stuff. Very useful.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1568154/asus-no...-a-thread/0_100
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Thanks bro, Raja's materials added.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 5 2015, 01:53 AM)
FIRST!!!!!

goldfries | Intel Core i7-6700K | 4.6Ghz @ 1.35v | ASRock Z170 Extreme4 | DeepCool Assassin II

The unit I have could reach 4.8Ghz and stay on Windows 10 fine but it is not stable.
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wahh so fasting grabbing a 6700K!
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goldfries, incredible vcore shocking.gif
QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 5 2015, 01:18 PM)
Thanks bro, Raja's materials added.
wahh so fasting grabbing a 6700K!
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im too far away to catch up sky lake sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 9 2015, 12:52 PM)
goldfries, incredible vcore shocking.gif

im too far away to catch up sky lake sweat.gif
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i just caught up on haswell-e LGA2011-v3, but looks like i'm already getting outdated sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 9 2015, 12:52 PM)
goldfries, incredible vcore shocking.gif

im too far away to catch up sky lake sweat.gif
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I can officially declare myself skylate because until now I still have no chance to get a hand on the i7-6700K yet.
ASUS Malaysia has recently loaned me an i5-6600K for the Maximus VIII Ranger review, quite a lemon chip i must say LOL

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post Sep 9 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 9 2015, 12:52 PM)
goldfries, incredible vcore shocking.gif

im too far away to catch up sky lake sweat.gif
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That Vcore tipu wan la, I also donno why it didn't show up correctly.

It's actually 1.35vcore. biggrin.gif

I tried to get it to run at 4.8Ghz but I can only reach Windows. Running benchmarks fail.

4.7Ghz no go too despite 1.4vcore.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 9 2015, 10:04 PM)
I can officially declare myself skylate because until now I still have no chance to get a hand on the i7-6700K yet.
ASUS Malaysia has recently loaned me an i5-6600K for the Maximus VIII Ranger review, quite a lemon chip i must say LOL
Usually ES samples don't work that well. sad.gif

And 1.7v is insane, I don't dare to pump that high.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 9 2015, 10:35 PM)
Usually ES samples don't work that well. sad.gif

And 1.7v is insane, I don't dare to pump that high.
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Bantai excessive vcore for the sake of MHz fun hehe.
Can't wait to get a retail i7 6700K... for RM1.5K!!!
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I feel like just going for i5 6600K.
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guys so far only asus boards are good? How about MSI Z170A Gaming M5?
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QUOTE(blizzzy @ Sep 13 2015, 12:41 AM)
guys so far only asus boards are good? How about MSI Z170A Gaming M5?
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dude. in haswell because IVR was inbuilt MSI/Asrock manage to getaway abit with low quality VRMs etc..

Asus Z97s... has always had one of the best on delivering consistent accurate voltages. So since skylake is back on mobo etc.. This should come back to play.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 13 2015, 05:00 AM)
dude. in haswell because IVR was inbuilt MSI/Asrock manage to getaway abit with low quality VRMs etc..

Asus Z97s... has always had one of the best on delivering consistent accurate voltages. So since skylake is back on mobo etc.. This should come back to play.
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Understood.
Which is the most recommended board? Asus Maximus VIII Hero? and which rams to go with it?
What would be the downside if I buy 2 sticks of Kingston (Fury (8GB x 1Pc) for 16gb. Will I lose dual channel because I didn't get a set?


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 13 2015, 04:41 PM)
terence_nwb | Intel Core i7 6700K | 4.8Ghz @ 1.404v | Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE | Corsair Hydro H100i
Total stability?

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 13 2015, 10:27 PM)
Total stability?
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Stable for nearly 2 days, so far so good thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(blizzzy @ Sep 13 2015, 10:20 PM)
Understood.
Which is the most recommended board? Asus Maximus VIII Hero? and which rams to go with it?
What would be the downside if I buy 2 sticks of Kingston (Fury (8GB x 1Pc) for 16gb. Will I lose dual channel because I didn't get a set?
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No idea. Seriously all the OC mobo's are not out yet. They usually will have magic options.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 13 2015, 10:38 PM)
Stable for nearly 2 days, so far so good  thumbup.gif
No no, i mean as in with stress test.

Even if not P95 also, what about other tests like say doing video rendering?

I could get mine to 4.8Ghz at 1.4 too but it works fine only on Windows. Stress test come in the fella hiccup here and there.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 13 2015, 11:27 PM)
No no, i mean as in with stress test.

Even if not P95 also, what about other tests like say doing video rendering?

I could get mine to 4.8Ghz at 1.4 too but it works fine only on Windows. Stress test come in the fella hiccup here and there.
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Did a test this afternoon, tried to convert a 20GB (.mov) clip to mp4 format, all cores are maxed out at 4.8GHz, no hiccup and successfully finished in 2 hours which is slightly faster than i7 4790K (also 4.8GHz).

Max temp is 74 C.

Will run P95 later for more stability test.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 13 2015, 11:27 PM)
No no, i mean as in with stress test.

Even if not P95 also, what about other tests like say doing video rendering?

I could get mine to 4.8Ghz at 1.4 too but it works fine only on Windows. Stress test come in the fella hiccup here and there.
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Note: Average temp 70, but not really satisfied with the temp due to the fact that I'm already using the H110i GT with push pull config. doh.gif and it's kinda loud as well with the WC on performance mode. Should've gotten the Kraken...

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emy_xvidia | Intel Core i5 6600K | 4.5GHz @ 1.376v | ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger | Corsair H110i GT

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Note: Average temp 70, but not really satisfied with the temp due to the fact that I'm already using the H110i GT with push pull config.  doh.gif and it's kinda loud as well with the WC on performance mode. Should've gotten the Kraken...

Should i upgrade the fans?
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Performance of Kraken X61 is very identical to H110i.
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Also, fan doesn't make much difference. How about custom WC? biggrin.gif

My 6600K @ 1.375v peaked at 58C in average under custom WC powered by 2x 360 rads.
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Received the GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming G1 along with i7 6700K recently. So straightaway decided to do a suicide OC on my testbench.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 22 2015, 11:55 PM)
Performance of Kraken X61 is very identical to H110i.
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Also, fan doesn't make much difference. How about custom WC? biggrin.gif

My 6600K @ 1.375v peaked at 58C in average under custom WC powered by 2x 360 rads.
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thinking to get the Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000rpm PWM fans to replace the crappy stock H110i GT fans. For the same setting of RPM, the Noctua's produce less noise, and if temp goes bonker can always set to max RPM! drool.gif theoretically on paper that is.

and damn, 1.5V Vcore for your i7...... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Sep 23 2015, 03:06 AM)
wallao kenot go for custom WC ler later I eat Maggi for one month.. tongue.gif

thinking to get the Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000rpm PWM fans to replace the crappy stock H110i GT fans. For the same setting of RPM, the Noctua's produce less noise, and if temp goes bonker  can always set to max RPM! drool.gif theoretically on paper that is.

and damn, 1.5V Vcore for your i7...... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Sep 23 2015, 03:06 AM)
wallao kenot go for custom WC ler later I eat Maggi for one month.. tongue.gif

thinking to get the Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000rpm PWM fans to replace the crappy stock H110i GT fans. For the same setting of RPM, the Noctua's produce less noise, and if temp goes bonker  can always set to max RPM! drool.gif theoretically on paper that is.

and damn, 1.5V Vcore for your i7...... shakehead.gif
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What's the point of adding more fans when the radiator is still of the same size?

It won't work any better.
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Guys do you know if the guide pinned can be applied for ocing i7 6600k on Z170 HD3 DDR3? Just moved from i7 860 3.66 @ 1.152v after 7 years. Looking to add 1-2Ghz on Dark Rock Pro 3 but i am unsure if DDR3 will be a showstopper since voltage is higher at 1.5v
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Guys do you know if the guide pinned can be applied for ocing i7 6600k on Z170 HD3 DDR3? Just moved from i7 860 3.66 @ 1.152v after 7 years. Looking to add 1-2Ghz on Dark Rock Pro 3 but i am unsure if DDR3 will be a showstopper since voltage is higher at 1.5v
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I thought GIGABYTE Z170-HD3 only supports DDR4.
Basically regardless of the brand the overclocking steps would be more or less the same but every CPU is unique, means each chip requires different CPU-related voltages, different strength of integrated memory controller (IMC) resulting in different memory overclock ability and ram-related voltages.

i5 6600K has 3.5GHz base clock and peaks at 3.9GHz with Turbo, generally can be overclocked to 4.3-4.4GHz stable on air cooling (depending on chip of course and cooler).



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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 27 2015, 08:27 PM)
I thought GIGABYTE Z170-HD3 only supports DDR4.
Basically regardless of the brand the overclocking steps would be more or less the same but every CPU is unique, means each chip requires different CPU-related voltages, different strength of integrated memory controller (IMC) resulting in different memory overclock ability and ram-related voltages.

i5 6600K has 3.5GHz base clock and peaks at 3.9GHz with Turbo, generally can be overclocked to 4.3-4.4GHz stable on air cooling (depending on chip of course and cooler).
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There is a DDR3 version for HD3 mobo. Using CL9 1600 hyperx savage 8gbx2. Managed to get i5 6600k running 4.3GHz @1.27 using 20% preset overclock profile (gigabyte performance upgrade) Reaching 62C on full load running small FFT on prime95 v28.5 after 1 hour without error.. No linpack or IBT to further testing. Arma 3 and watch dogs running fine so far. Will perform manual oc instead of using current preset to get better optimized system.

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QUOTE(SkillsScrapper54 @ Sep 28 2015, 12:33 AM)
There is a DDR3 version for HD3 mobo. Using CL9 1600 hyperx savage 8gbx2. Managed to get i5 6600k running 4.3GHz @1.27 using 20% preset overclock profile (gigabyte performance upgrade) Reaching 62C on full load running small FFT on prime95 v28.5 after 1 hour without error.. No linpack or IBT to further testing. Arma 3 and watch dogs running fine so far. Will perform manual oc instead of using current preset to get better optimized system.
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Not bad. Auto overclocking is a good starting point but manual overclocking is always the best of course.
Skylake CPUs' TJmax (max temp.) is 100C so looks like your chip still have plenty of headroom to overclock higher.
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Sep 23 2015, 03:06 AM)
wallao kenot go for custom WC ler later I eat Maggi for one month.. tongue.gif

thinking to get the Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000rpm PWM fans to replace the crappy stock H110i GT fans. For the same setting of RPM, the Noctua's produce less noise, and if temp goes bonker  can always set to max RPM! drool.gif theoretically on paper that is.

and damn, 1.5V Vcore for your i7...... shakehead.gif
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Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000rpm PWM fans are loud at max. you might not like it. 1500 pwm or maybe 2000 pwm is much quiet.
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Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC 3000rpm PWM fans are loud at max. you might not like it. 1500 pwm or maybe 2000 pwm is much quiet.
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yea I've been reading also bout it. But I think that'll be manageable since I plan to connect the fans to Corsair Link. The stock Corsair fans aren't just good enough. They make this annoying rattling sound at low speed.

Just one question though, for a push pull config, is it better to put the higher RPM fans to do the push job or vice versa?
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yea I've been reading also bout it. But I think that'll be manageable since I plan to connect the fans to Corsair Link. The stock Corsair fans aren't just good enough. They make this annoying rattling sound at low speed.

Just one question though, for a push pull config, is it better to put the higher RPM fans to do the push job or vice versa?
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the idea of having larger sized fans is to get rid of loud fan noise issues. larger fans spin at lower rpm but provide sufficient air flow or static pressure, hence they are more quiet.

i think we have derailed from this nice topic. just check out the water cooling section at lyn for better information.
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Nice Owi.....try BIOS F5d with some memory improvements....

Later this month, I getting Z170X-SOC Force, which is not coming in Malaysia shops..... sad.gif

Edit:
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QUOTE(stasio @ Oct 3 2015, 06:52 PM)
Nice Owi.....try BIOS F5d with some memory improvements....

Later this month, I getting Z170X-SOC Force, which is not coming in Malaysia shops..... sad.gif

Edit:
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Thanks for the new BIOS bro. Will try it out asap!

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Need to fix that efficiency though. Yet I'm still at 1.35v and with the old F4h BIOS.
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New F5d BIOS is awesome. 3600MHz boots easier than ever, efficiency is improved a lot here.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 25 2015, 03:11 PM)
What's the point of adding more fans when the radiator is still of the same size?

It won't work any better.
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64gb Gskill/Corsair/Klevv 3200-3400mhz Ram

64gb yo lets push this sucker
sourcing for some klevvs

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64gb Gskill/Corsair/Klevv 3200-3400mhz Ram

64gb yo lets push this sucker
sourcing for some klevvs
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Benching MAXIMUS VIII EXTREME + Ripjaws V DDR4 3000C15...

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All i can do here is envy...my 6700k refuse to go anywhere past 4.3, that thing runs windows fine at 4.8 but any stress test above 4.3 stopped in 3 minutes no matter what voltage i put.
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QUOTE(Killmeplsok @ Oct 11 2015, 02:33 PM)
All i can do here is envy...my 6700k refuse to go anywhere past 4.3, that thing runs windows fine at 4.8 but any stress test above 4.3 stopped in 3 minutes no matter what voltage i put.
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Mind to share your OC settings and what software you used for stressing?
Most 6700K chips should be able to do at least 4.5GHz, max out at 4.7/4.8GHz before thermal throttling.

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I cant remember much, but for 4.5 ghz I have tried 1.32v to 1.46v with increment of 0.2v each time.

Stress test using AIDA64 says I have a hardware failure each time after around 2 minutes, so I tried Prime95, which crashes my PC almost instantly each time, I finally went for a gentler Intel XTU, even trying to benchmark using XTU crashes my PC with a CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT error which usually indicates not enough voltage, but I figure that if this PC cant even go past 4.5 with 1.46 then it's not worth my time and electricity to OC.
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I cant remember much, but for 4.5 ghz I have tried 1.32v to 1.46v with increment of 0.2v each time.

Stress test using AIDA64 says I have a hardware failure each time after around 2 minutes, so I tried Prime95, which crashes my PC almost instantly each time, I finally went for a gentler Intel XTU, even trying to benchmark using XTU crashes my PC with a CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT error which usually indicates not enough voltage, but I figure that if this PC cant even go past 4.5 with 1.46 then it's not worth my time and electricity to OC.
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1.46v is way too much for a 6700K OC @ 4.5GHz. Probably worst chip that I've ever heard of so far (sorry).
It could be improper settings as well in the BIOS so you better check it out again.

My BIOS settings for 6700K OC @ 4.5GHz look like this: http://www.ocdrift.com/review-gigabyte-z170x-gaming-g1/3/

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Core: 100x45
Uncore: 100x45
vCore: 1.325v (1.320v at full load)
LLC: Turbo
Memory: XMP (3000MHz C15-15-15-35-2T)
VRAM: 1.35v
VCCSA: Auto (1.05v)
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1.46v is way too much for a 6700K OC @ 4.5GHz. Probably worst chip that I've ever heard of so far (sorry).
It could be improper settings as well in the BIOS so you better check it out again.

My BIOS settings for 6700K OC @ 4.5GHz look like this: http://www.ocdrift.com/review-gigabyte-z170x-gaming-g1/3/

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Core: 100x45
Uncore: 100x45
vCore: 1.325v (1.320v at full load)
LLC: Turbo
Memory: XMP (3000MHz C15-15-15-35-2T)
VRAM: 1.35v
VCCSA: Auto (1.05v)
VCCIO: Auto (0.95v)
EIST: disabled
C-state: disabled
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Going to check if I missed something, maybe this weekends, when I'm not working, I might forgot something as the last time I OC, it was several years ago with a 2500k.
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Amazing! ASUS MAXIMUS VIII EXTREME has more than 50 memory presets for the major IC vendors including Samsung, Hynix and Micron, so that you can have a start point for RAM tweaking.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 16 2015, 11:35 PM)
Amazing! ASUS MAXIMUS VIII EXTREME has more than 50 memory presets for the major IC vendors including Samsung, Hynix and Micron, so that you can have a start point for RAM tweaking.

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Together with G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4, ASRock Z170 OCF is such a great overclocking board specially designed by world's best overclocker Nick Shih!

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DDR4 4000 MHz is easy on AIR and should be able go higher with further tweaking:
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Highest SPI 32m stable clock is 3866MHz 19-20-20-42-2T @ 1.55v on AIR:
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You have latest BIOS by Nick here:
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You should also try the latest version of LinX posted in the post #1:

LinX 0.6.5 (11.3.0.004)


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:52 PM)
Nice try bro but what motherboard are you using?
You should also try the latest version of LinX posted in the post #1:

LinX 0.6.5 (11.3.0.004)
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Kinda new here + newbie lol.
The i5 6600K I've tried few months back then isn't doing any good on mem oc though.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 10 2015, 10:44 PM)
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming + Intel 6700K @ 5.0GHz

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 14 2015, 11:11 AM)
1.6v?  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
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I also have a retail 6700K which also doesn't seem to perform better than this one
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Testing Memory preset in ASRock Z170 OCF (BIOS v1.90)

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Wta sifu
If i increase my cache speed to 4500 do i need up any voltage.
Already tested hyper pi 32 ok
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QUOTE(keyo @ Feb 10 2016, 09:48 PM)
Wta sifu
If i increase my cache speed to 4500 do i need up any voltage.
Already tested hyper pi 32 ok
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Fairly new to this overclocking scene, here's my result.
Using GIGABYTE Z170XP-SLI

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1.728 Vcore or 1.308?

Don't fry your chip mate.
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Nice clocking here.. how about the benchmark?
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my 6700K runs near 90c on full load 4.5ghz with H220-X, on stock clock it runs around 85c cry.gif

I'm pretty sure i already mounted the cooler the right way hmm.gif

runs at 30-35c on idle stock clock, near 40c on 4.5ghz idle

EDIT : was using Prime95 and people say it'll hurt the cpu. did another test with cinebench, max temps 72c stock clock

EDIT 2 : got a stable 4.6ghz @ 1.355v unsure.gif

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Darn u guys really fast
Does Skylake do REALLY good than Haswell?
I mean is it really that wort the upgrade?
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Darn u guys really fast
Does Skylake do REALLY good than Haswell?
I mean is it really that wort the upgrade?
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If you're using Haswell now, I advise you to hold your horses. Jump for the Kabylake next year will be more worth it.
If you're using AMD APU/FX6### or Intel LGA775 stuff, you better jump now.  bruce.gif
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I overclocked my 6700k to a modest 4.4ghz (coz I sayang my CPU haha, my first high end rig for years. haven't changed since the IP-35 MOBO LGA775 where I used Dual Core CPU). I'm using ASUS ROG Maximus Hero VIII

Run RealBench (Asus) @ 1.20V for 2 hours without problem. But when I ran Prime95, 5 min into the test I get BSOD haha.

Eventually managed to keep it stable @ 1.23V - So I achieved 4.4ghz @ 1.23V. I'm using ID Cooling FrostFlow 240L - Stock @ 33c and max load usually around 65c (thanks to the low voltage). No aircond in my room, only kipas.

I have temptation to OC it further but it makes little to no differences in gaming performance, unless it's a CPU dependent game. Is my CPU good?

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QUOTE(latios507 @ Apr 8 2016, 01:38 AM)
I overclocked my 6700k to a modest 4.4ghz (coz I sayang my CPU haha, my first high end rig for years. haven't changed since the IP-35 MOBO LGA775 where I used Dual Core CPU). I'm using ASUS ROG Maximus Hero VIII

Run RealBench (Asus) @ 1.20V for 2 hours without problem. But when I ran Prime95, 5 min into the test I get BSOD haha.

Eventually managed to keep it stable @ 1.23V - So I achieved 4.4ghz @ 1.23V. I'm using ID Cooling FrostFlow 240L - Stock @ 33c and max load usually around 65c (thanks to the low voltage). No aircond in my room, only kipas.

I have temptation to OC it further but it makes little to no differences in gaming performance, unless it's a CPU dependent game. Is my CPU good?
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Lol, default speed is 4Ghz with turbo 4.2 correct?
It seems the Haswell overclock better than Skylake
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Lol, default speed is 4Ghz with turbo 4.2 correct?
It seems the Haswell overclock better than Skylake
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Does anyone here OC the non-K version ? i3-6100 perhaps ?


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Does anyone here OC the non-K version ? i3-6100 perhaps ?
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Sold it, if u intend to do OC, grab the "K" version instead
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Hehe dont have a budget for K version yet.. Have to play around wirh my i3 for now..

Does anyone here ever tried oc'ing those valueram ddr4? Kingston maybe? How high did u manage to go?

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Does anyone here OC the non-K version ? i3-6100 perhaps ?
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Hehe dont have a budget for K version yet.. Have to play around wirh my i3 for now..

Does anyone here ever tried oc'ing those valueram ddr4? Kingston maybe? How high did u manage to go?
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Sold & just top up a bit leh
Try find cheap one frm Garage Sales

My Corsair Vengeance just die, so currently I only run on Value Ram which default speed at 667
But, I manage to squeeze it to run at 800Mhz laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Sold & just top up a bit leh
Try find cheap one frm Garage Sales

My Corsair Vengeance just die, so currently I only run on Value Ram which default speed at 667
But, I manage to squeeze it to run at 800Mhz  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Your RAM  actually died ? You abused it too much ... LOL ...
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Luckily RAM has lifetime warranty, so I will just RMA it later
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I notice many people uses Vcore around 1.35V for 4.5-4.6Ghz OC ..

I wonder if mine 1.48V is ok ?
Saw in the Intel Spec sheet .. max Vcore is 1.52V ...
Temperature is fine.. even under Prime95 load .. its 68-73 Celcius ..

Btw in BIOS .. I use Override mode and set Vcore 1.375V (but in all sensor in it says 1.48V) .. any idea why ?

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Does anyone here OC the non-K version ? i3-6100 perhaps ?
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You no read my article. sad.gif

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...-asrock-sky-oc/

I got it to 4.5Ghz, no vcore adjustment.
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You no read my article. sad.gif

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...-asrock-sky-oc/

I got it to 4.5Ghz, no vcore adjustment.
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The SKY OC feature is removed in newer firmware BUT the function returns under the guise of HYPER BCLK Engine.

It's amazing how a Core i3-6100 (on stock already faster than i5-6400) can be overclocked to 4.5Ghz or more.

I could reach 4.6Ghz even but it wasn't stable so I had to back down to 4.5Ghz. Might be able to reach beyond 4.5Ghz if I were to boost voltage but my test was based on stock cooler, going vcore boost meant I'll likely go beyond the limit of the stock cooler.
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Apr 21 2016, 07:50 AM)
I notice many people uses Vcore around 1.35V for 4.5-4.6Ghz OC ..

I wonder if mine 1.48V is ok ?
Saw in the Intel Spec sheet .. max Vcore is 1.52V ...
Temperature is fine.. even under Prime95 load .. its 68-73 Celcius ..

Btw in BIOS .. I use Override mode and set Vcore 1.375V (but in all sensor in it says 1.48V)  .. any idea why ?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 21 2016, 11:27 PM)
You no read my article. sad.gif

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...-asrock-sky-oc/

I got it to 4.5Ghz, no vcore adjustment.
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hi,

i want to build a new mini itx pc.
planning to get i5 6400 non K and do mild overclock.
Any m-itx mobo you can suggest?

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 21 2016, 11:27 PM)
You no read my article. sad.gif

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...-asrock-sky-oc/

I got it to 4.5Ghz, no vcore adjustment.
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Btw ... no Vcore adjustment means you just set it to Auto ?
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Wow.. thank you ...  rclxm9.gif
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want to ask do u need to update bios or anything to oc i3 using msi z170

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Apr 22 2016, 10:22 AM)
Btw ... no Vcore adjustment means you just set it to Auto ?
Yes it's on AUTO.

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QUOTE(egoiste @ Apr 22 2016, 09:30 AM)
hi,

i want to build a new mini itx pc.
planning to get i5 6400 non K and do mild overclock.
Any m-itx mobo you can suggest?
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Im not an expert or anything .. but have a look at MSI .. they have this DDR4 Boost feature which is pretty good ...
It gives you plenty of options for DDR4 speeds ... not limited to 2133 2400 2666 3000 only ...

Easier to tune the right timing for your RAM.. can get high speed and good latency ..

It allowed me to OC my cheap Kingston Valueram 2133 up to 2928 (CAS 15, CR 1) with slight increase in Voltage (1.3).
Actually can go up to 4000 Mhz, but not stable lah

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QUOTE(keyo @ Apr 22 2016, 12:18 PM)
want to ask do u need to update bios or anything to oc i3 using msi z170
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Im using MSI z170m mortar (the cheapest Z170 around) ... the latest official bios (version A3) have that non-K OC feature ...

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Apr 22 2016, 03:55 PM)
Im not an expert or anything .. but have a look at MSI .. they have this DDR4 Boost feature which is pretty good ...
It gives you plenty of options for DDR4 speeds ... not limited to 2133 2400 2666 3000 only ...

Easier to tune the right timing for your RAM.. can get high speed and good latency ..

It allowed me to OC my cheap Kingston Valueram 2133 up to  2928 (CAS 15, CR 1) with slight increase in Voltage (1.3).
Actually can go up to 4000 Mhz, but not stable lah
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What ic cip that kvr you oc
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What ic cip that kvr you oc
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Its Valueram with Hynix chips... I think most in Malaysia is Hynix..check before u buy ...

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ May 1 2016, 01:13 PM)
Its Valueram with Hynix chips... I think most in Malaysia is Hynix..check before u buy ...
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QUOTE(keyo @ May 1 2016, 08:18 PM)
Me Micron d9tgg so sad
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No harm trying.. Look at my signatures for my ddr4 3100 OC RAM settings.. RAM is very hard to break .. Even if it break got lifetime warranty... LOL


I think this is the best OC guide for gaming rig..
If u use your system for scientific processing..maybe not suitable..

http://www.ronwoods.us/2014/06/how-to-safe...s-test.html?m=1

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custom watercooling but still 80 when full load
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Max 80 celcius for overclocked cpu is ok lor... as long as the voltage isnt high... seems like your voltages is good
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do i need to stress test when successful enter window after OC?
if yes, how long do i need to stress test?
mine is 6700k, AIO ID cooling 240, below is test result on xtu n realbench
xtu (benchmark)
4.6g@1.325 = result pass temp 86c (temp result in xtu app itself)
4.7@1.375 = result pass temp 93c (temp result in xtu app itself)

real bench (benchmark)
4.6g@1.325 = pass (temp hwdinfo 86c)
4.7@1.375 = pass (forgot)

I have run stress test using realbench 4.6g@1.325 for 1 hour, and it pass (before I install GC). then i try 4 hours test (after GC install) and go sleep. next morning, my pc was restart. So i dont know whether my OC is good or not. i use my pc 24/7 run at 50% load on CPU and RAM (16gb corsair lpx 3000). is something wrong with my setup?

another thing is, i'm consider to invest in custom water cooling, but i want to know, whether i can achieve below 80c when do benchmark or stress test? currently max temp around 86-88c on AIO cooling. please advise. thanks!

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QUOTE(tyja @ Jun 12 2016, 08:05 AM)
do i need to stress test when successful enter window after OC?
if yes, how long do i need to stress test?
mine is 6700k, AIO ID cooling 240, below is test result on xtu n realbench
xtu (benchmark)
4.6g@1.325 = result pass temp 86c (temp result in xtu app itself)
4.7@1.375 = result pass temp 93c (temp result in xtu app itself)

real bench (benchmark)
4.6g@1.325 = pass (temp hwdinfo 86c)
4.7@1.375 = pass (forgot)

I have run stress test using realbench 4.6g@1.325 for 1 hour, and it pass (before I install GC). then i try 4 hours test (after GC install) and go sleep. next morning, my pc was restart. So i dont know whether my OC is good or not. i use my pc 24/7 run at 50% load on CPU and RAM (16gb corsair lpx 3000). is something wrong with my setup?

another thing is, i'm consider to invest in custom water cooling, but i want to know, whether i can achieve below 80c when do benchmark or stress test? currently max temp around 86-88c on AIO cooling. please advise. thanks!
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If just gaming...

Run Realbench (Benchmark) 6 times .
Then Cinebench CPU test.. 1x time.

If the system survives these (not crashing and temperatures are ok) .. its good enough for gaming ..
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custom watercooling but still 80 when full load
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Well my i5 6600K managed to OC to 4.5 GHz with 1.29 on the Vcore. I guess that is pretty decent?

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Wanna check...

I saw in forums that 3200mhz ram will cause boot failure when using stock 6700k unless I oc it...true ah?
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Is this thread still active?

Planning to build an 6700k, Asus z170 pro gaming mobo, 16gb corsair lpx 3000 ram, corsair H100v2 rig.

I will follow linus tech tips overclocking guide and those benchmark u guys suggust.

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Oi mana kabylake????
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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Jan 6 2017, 02:06 AM)
Oi mana kabylake????
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Hi newbie here...trying my luck after retired from oc 5 years hahaha
i halt the test coz the temp r scary...funding for new cooler sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Is it compulsory to use prime95 and torture test an overclocked gpu for a day? I've seen people running prime95 for full 24 hours.
I did blend test for around 6 hours with no issues for 4.4GHz @1.3v, now I'm wondering whether to take a notch up to 4.5GHz with 1.31v because even on 1.325v for 4.5GHz during prime95 test there was an error on a worker in one large FFT.

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Not compulsory, it depends on how picky you are.

To some people, stability is a matter of Prime95 for 72 hours.

To some, stability is to get through their day to day activity without any unwanted operation failure.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 7 2017, 06:23 PM)
entahlah... sudah 3 hari belum nampak aksi 7700K lg sad.gif
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## to be listed you must post at least a screenshot of CPU-Z consisted of CPU & motherboard tabs.



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do we need to disable speedstep and c state tq
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do we need to disable speedstep and c state tq
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Power saving features such as EIST and C-states should be disabled while you’re overclocking.
Enabling these features while overclocking might cause some stability issues especially voltages.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 16 2017, 11:15 PM)
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susprise your cpu core temp are good
I saw in front two i7 7700k
All core temp very high
Even mine oc to 5.0ghz 1.3v same too high temp (80-90c stress test)

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QUOTE(qierdidi @ Jan 24 2017, 02:04 PM)
susprise your cpu core temp are good
I saw in front two i7 7700k
All core temp very high
Even mine oc to 5.0ghz 1.3v same too high temp (80-90c stress test)
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Are you referring to my Cinebench temp bro?
Cinebench is not so stressful actually hence the low temp.
AIDA64 stability test gave me 80-90c @ 5.0GHz 1.264v

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Are you referring to my Cinebench temp bro?
Cinebench is not so stressful actually hence the low temp.
AIDA64 stability test gave me 80-90c @ 5.0GHz 1.264v
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If i find the same batch as yours or batch that same the hwbot froum talking is it i can overclock same as yours or them very low voltage
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QUOTE(keyo @ Jan 25 2017, 09:14 AM)
If i find the same batch as yours or batch that same the hwbot froum talking is it i can overclock same as yours or them very low voltage
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Nah, it's all draw of luck bro.
Same batch doesn't mean they have similar OC capability.
For instance, many said L639 batch was generally great while there are a few other people saying they had a lot of bad L639 chips.
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is it ok with this volt to run daily


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QUOTE(keyo @ Jan 27 2017, 09:45 PM)
is it ok with this volt to run daily
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Each person might have different opinion/acceptance criteria when it comes to "safe" temperatures & voltages.

Some might be worried about chip degradation when overclocking with excessive voltages for a long period of time.

For me, keep the core temperatures lower than TJmax of 100 degrees Celsius and you should be fine. Well, nowadays most motherboards come with over-temperature protection feature so your CPU Is not going to be killed so easily.

Happy Chinese New Year and enjoy overclocking... smile.gif
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Check this out, guys!
The most comprehensive OC guide for Kaby Lake, written by Raja @ ASUS.

The Kaby Lake overclocking guide

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delid or not ???
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QUOTE(Spetre @ Feb 11 2017, 06:27 PM)
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delid or not ???
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Delid will reduce the core temps by 15-20C.

Nice try but one minute Prime95 won't suffice.
Pretty sure the core temps will shoot up drastically (at least +10C) at/after 20 minutes of priming.
Need a few hours to confirm stability, 3-6 hours etc biggrin.gif
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Delid will reduce the core temps by 15-20C.

Nice try but one minute Prime95 won't suffice.
Pretty sure the core temps will shoot up drastically (at least +10C) at/after 20 minutes of priming.
Need a few hours to confirm stability, 3-6 hours etc biggrin.gif
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Even with 1.248v still suffer with almost 80c full load in one minute
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QUOTE(Spetre @ Feb 12 2017, 12:48 AM)
Even with 1.248v still suffer with almost 80c full load in one minute
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Prime95 is very2 stressful bro.
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which one do you choose small fft,large fft ,or custom sir owikh84

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QUOTE(keyo @ Feb 12 2017, 11:44 AM)
which one do you choose small fft,large fft ,or custom sir owikh84
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Custom blend of course, min/max 1344 FFTs, with full memory capacity biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(keyo @ Feb 14 2017, 07:08 AM)
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Same VID as my L644 chip biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 12 2017, 01:02 PM)
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Custom blend of course, min/max 1344 FFTs, with full memory capacity  biggrin.gif
Don't do 4K?

As much as I like 1344, there are errors that can happen beyond 1344.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 14 2017, 11:48 PM)
Don't do 4K?

As much as I like 1344, there are errors that can happen beyond 1344.
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1344 FFT is like an acceleratedsystem stability study, so that you can test stability in a shorter time with Prime95.
Say if you can passed the 1344 with 90%+ available RAM for 15 mins, then your system should be stable for 12 hours of 4k FFT.

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Here's mine...
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Somehow 5.2GHz @ 1.424v freezes in Cinebench R15 so I think better stop here.
Got an offer for a 7700K binned at 5.2GHz @ 1.3v stable R15, $450 USD
Hmm, I think I will just wait for Ryzen first biggrin.gif

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i think the score with be same if i overclock to 5.1ghz compare with 7700k , haha
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i think the score with be same if i overclock to 5.1ghz compare with 7700k , haha
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Exactly, bcos of the identical core performance between KBL and Skylake.
But to get that 6700K overclocked to more than 4.8GHz is quite a challenging task LOL.
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Exactly, bcos of the identical core performance between KBL and Skylake.
But to get that 6700K overclocked to more than 4.8GHz is quite a challenging task LOL.
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Draw of luck.
For record, only 56% of 7700K has ability to do 5.0GHz+.
6700K would be less and rare.

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Hi all, glad that I found this thread. Just built myself a Core i7-7700K with Asus Z270E motherboard PC. I used Asus ROG forum Kaby Lake overclocking guide.

I was doing this stress test at room temperature last night, ~29'c room temp.

I can only achieve 4.7GHz @ 1.29v and stable with 16GB memory XMP to 3200 MHz. Stress test using RealBench v2.43.

I started with:
i) 1.3v and 4.9GHz it rebooted right away when I ran RealBench. Memory at default 2133MHz.
ii) Then 1.3v and 4.8GHz it ran OK, if I memory XMP it to 3200MHz it blue screen during RealBench
iii) Then 1.3v and 4.7GHz it ran OK, XMP memory OK, but quite hot when running RealBench, hit 87'C
iv) Then down volt to 1.29V with similar setting, temperature ~80'c to 83'c full load.


I will follow the guide here to try out other stress test software. Will post some photos this week if time permit.

Some question to bro owikh84:
1. owikh84 you have really good overclock results at such a low Voltage. Congrats! And your temperature runs cool too. Can you share with us your cooling solution?


I'm using 3 fans as front intake (2 fans from Corsair AIO H100i v2), and another 3 fans as exhaust for hot air (2 at top, 1 at rear). Using Corsair Carbide 400C case.
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QUOTE(tcsee @ Feb 22 2017, 09:49 AM)
Hi all, glad that I found this thread. Just built myself a Core i7-7700K with Asus Z270E motherboard PC. I used Asus ROG forum Kaby Lake overclocking guide.

I was doing this stress test at room temperature last night, ~29'c room temp.

I can only achieve 4.7GHz @ 1.29v and stable with 16GB memory XMP to 3200 MHz. Stress test using RealBench v2.43.

I started with:
i) 1.3v and 4.9GHz it rebooted right away when I ran RealBench. Memory at default 2133MHz.
ii) Then 1.3v and 4.8GHz it ran OK, if I memory XMP it to 3200MHz it blue screen during RealBench
iii) Then 1.3v and 4.7GHz it ran OK, XMP memory OK, but quite hot when running RealBench, hit 87'C
iv) Then down volt to 1.29V with similar setting, temperature ~80'c to 83'c full load.
I will follow the guide here to try out other stress test software. Will post some photos this week if time permit.

Some question to bro owikh84:
1. owikh84 you have really good overclock results at such a low Voltage. Congrats! And your temperature runs cool too. Can you share with us your cooling solution?
I'm using 3 fans as front intake (2 fans from Corsair AIO H100i v2), and another 3 fans as exhaust for hot air (2 at top, 1 at rear). Using Corsair Carbide 400C case.
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For my experience, u need adjust vccio voltage and system agent voltage to stable the overclock ram ,

For the temperature, i have same Celsius when full load , no matter how low my cpu voltage is , i think its time to delid
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 22 2017, 06:42 AM)
Draw of luck.
For record, only 56% of 7700K has ability to do 5.0GHz+.
6700K would be less and rare.

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Yes , u are right , i check the review and only 3% of 6700k able oc to 5.0ghz , im thinking if im the 3% , hehe
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QUOTE(tcsee @ Feb 22 2017, 09:49 AM)
Some question to bro owikh84:
1. owikh84 you have really good overclock results at such a low Voltage. Congrats! And your temperature runs cool too. Can you share with us your cooling solution?
I'm using 3 fans as front intake (2 fans from Corsair AIO H100i v2), and another 3 fans as exhaust for hot air (2 at top, 1 at rear). Using Corsair Carbide 400C case.
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I am using a custom watercooling solution as follows:
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Looks like this, except that the graphics card is now air-cooled biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tcsee @ Feb 22 2017, 09:49 AM)
Hi all, glad that I found this thread. Just built myself a Core i7-7700K with Asus Z270E motherboard PC. I used Asus ROG forum Kaby Lake overclocking guide.
I started with:
i) 1.3v and 4.9GHz it rebooted right away when I ran RealBench. Memory at default 2133MHz.
ii) Then 1.3v and 4.8GHz it ran OK, if I memory XMP it to 3200MHz it blue screen during RealBench
iii) Then 1.3v and 4.7GHz it ran OK, XMP memory OK, but quite hot when running RealBench, hit 87'C
iv) Then down volt to 1.29V with similar setting, temperature ~80'c to 83'c full load.
I think you have not-so-good chip.

Here's mine - http://valid.x86.fr/ih396n

I use Cooler Master Nepton 240M cooler, fan are 2x JetFlor running at max.

Passes OCCT (no AVX) 1 hour Linpack test. Memory is XMP profile at 3200.

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Wanted to try pushing further but temps are kinda worrying. Even with 1.32V offset mode voltage, core temps (core 1only, other core floating about 77c max) went up to 82c at the highest. So...yea...any ideas on how to improve temps? Currently rad is on top set to push config.

Thanks sifus.

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Anyone experiencing wrong readings on HWmonitor and CPU-Z?

I set my core voltage to 1.280 in BIOS on manual mode, 4300MHZ (100x43)
But when I run stress test at 100% CPU load
CPU-Z give 1.3+ to 1.38+ voltage used.

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QUOTE(arffrhn @ Feb 28 2017, 10:37 PM)
Wanted to try pushing further but temps are kinda worrying. Even with 1.32V offset mode voltage, core temps (core 1only, other core floating about 77c max) went up to 82c at the highest. So...yea...any ideas on how to improve temps? Currently rad is on top set to push config.

Thanks sifus.
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Nice OC, in future please also include a screenshot of the CPU-Z's motherboard tab in order to get listed in the Post #.
Sounds like you will need a better cooling. Here's my 6600K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.370v cooled by custom WC of course biggrin.gif:

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QUOTE(cattscratch @ Mar 1 2017, 11:52 PM)
Anyone experiencing wrong readings on HWmonitor and CPU-Z?

I set my core voltage to 1.280 in BIOS on manual mode, 4300MHZ (100x43)
But when I run stress test at 100% CPU load
CPU-Z give 1.3+ to 1.38+ voltage used.
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It is normal to have those vCore reading in Windows different from the value set through the UEFI BIOS.
It is different from one board vendor to another.
vCore shown in OS-based software is real time and correct one, but the most accurate is of course using a calibrated digital multi-meter (DMM).
The differences is also contributed by the level of CPU voltage Load-line Calibration (LLC) you're using.
Different LLC level will give you higher vdroop (lower vCore at load) or vdrop (higher vCore when loading). For instance,

My 6600K OC 4.5GHz BIOS set 1.35v, LLC 7, but inside Windows CPU-Z reads 1.360v (Idle) and 1.376v (Load).

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Nice OC, in future please also include a screenshot of the CPU-Z's motherboard tab in order to get listed in the Post #.
Sounds like you will need a better cooling. Here's my 6600K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.370v cooled by custom WC of course biggrin.gif:

Cannot afford for custom loop. cry.gif
Btw, Here is the pic with mobo tab. biggrin.gif

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Cannot afford for custom loop.  cry.gif
Btw, Here is the pic with mobo tab.  biggrin.gif

Very nice bro, welcome to the Club biggrin.gif

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Anyone experiencing wrong readings on HWmonitor and CPU-Z?

I set my core voltage to 1.280 in BIOS on manual mode, 4300MHZ (100x43)
But when I run stress test at 100% CPU load
CPU-Z give 1.3+ to 1.38+ voltage used.
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because the LLC settings u set to auto
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 2 2017, 07:12 AM)
It is normal to have those vCore reading in Windows different from the value set through the UEFI BIOS.
It is different from one board vendor to another.
vCore shown in OS-based software is real time and correct one, but the most accurate is of course using a calibrated digital multi-meter (DMM).
The differences is also contributed by the level of CPU voltage Load-line Calibration (LLC) you're using.
Different LLC level will give you higher vdroop (lower vCore at load) or vdrop (higher vCore when loading). For instance,

My 6600K OC 4.5GHz BIOS set 1.35v, LLC 7, but inside Windows CPU-Z reads 1.360v (Idle) and 1.376v (Load).
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QUOTE(Spetre @ Mar 2 2017, 11:25 PM)
because the LLC settings u set to auto
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Thanks for the replies guys...I appreciate it.
So if I want minimum deviation from the manual amount set of 1.280V
What level LLC should i set? 1 or 7 ?
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QUOTE(cattscratch @ Mar 3 2017, 03:36 PM)
Thanks for the replies guys...I appreciate it.
So if I want minimum deviation from the manual amount set of 1.280V
What level LLC should i set? 1 or 7 ?
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Every brand has different LLC behaviour, idle and load voltages.
I suggest you to try the LLC levels one by one.
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Hi guys, i overclocked my i7 6700k to 4.5ghz recently with 1.280v and with the h115i corsair. everything is fine with the stresstest using aida64,asus realbench and hwmonitor. but i have some questions for the cpu temp. in aida64 statistic, cpu temp 55c,CAM 60c,asus isuite3 58c, hwmonitor 71c and corsair link 71c as well(temp can go down to 58c and shoot up to 70c and drop again to 65c) ,all under full load.room temp 30c which one should i trust? confused.gif

after that i turn on msi afterburner to check in game cpu temp and i got around 60c (30-40% cpu load) with Rainbow 6 Siege. i've tried reapply the thermal paste and reseat the pump but no changes.

is my temp normal? im a newbie in oc ,sifu sifu pls advice, tq notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Mar 13 2017, 11:12 AM)
Hi guys, i overclocked my i7 6700k to 4.5ghz recently with 1.280v and with the h115i corsair. everything is fine with the stresstest using aida64,asus realbench and hwmonitor. but i have some questions for the cpu temp. in aida64 statistic, cpu temp 55c,CAM 60c,asus isuite3 58c, hwmonitor 71c and corsair link 71c as well(temp can go down to 58c and shoot up to 70c and drop again to 65c) ,all under full load.room temp 30c which one should i trust? confused.gif

after that i turn on msi afterburner to check in game cpu temp and i got around 60c (30-40% cpu load) with Rainbow 6 Siege. i've tried reapply the thermal paste and reseat the pump but no changes.

is my temp normal? im a newbie in oc ,sifu sifu pls advice, tq notworthy.gif
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Use Realtemp or Coretemp to monitor core temps, not CPU package temp like certain software.

Here's my 6700K running at 4.5GHz @ 1.312v, cooled by a custom watercooling kit comprising of dual 360 radiators:
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 3 2017, 06:37 PM)
Every brand has different LLC behaviour, idle and load voltages.
I suggest you to try the LLC levels one by one.
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I tried each LLC levels from 1-7, all gives similar results
My rig is i7-6700K and Asus z170 Pro Gaming

I set my bios to 1.280 VID at 4300MHZ

Readings at HWMonitor and CPUID goes from 0.773v at idle to 1.380v at full load.
Otherwise current readings usually at 1.320v...

My readings never show 1.280v
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QUOTE(cattscratch @ Mar 14 2017, 02:46 AM)
I tried each LLC levels from 1-7, all gives similar results
My rig is i7-6700K and Asus z170 Pro Gaming

I set my bios to 1.280 VID at 4300MHZ

Readings at HWMonitor and CPUID goes from 0.773v at idle to 1.380v at full load.
Otherwise current readings usually at 1.320v...

My readings never show 1.280v
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After doing some research...I have found that you need to switch the adaptive mode and offset values from Auto -> min value
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 13 2017, 09:42 PM)
Use Realtemp or Coretemp to monitor core temps, not CPU package temp like certain software.

Here's my 6700K running at 4.5GHz @ 1.312v, cooled by a custom watercooling kit comprising of dual 360 radiators:
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thanks for your reply. so yours full load 70c. what about in game temp?

also does your cpu temp fluctuating? like 50-64c and drop to 49c.
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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Mar 14 2017, 09:32 AM)
thanks for your reply. so yours full load 70c. what about in game temp?

also does your cpu temp fluctuating? like 50-64c and drop to 49c.
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It is normal for temps to jumps around a few C. Usually game will run on lower temps but will still fluctuates a bit not like gpu temps. As voltage is the main cause for cpu temps rise, the logical reasoning imo is because voltage supplied to the core is like a pwm signal that is regulated by the choke. So depending on your mobo, higher end mobo has more phases and more stable volt supply. More stable volt maybe less temp fluctuates. Either way, 70C on full load is nothing to worry about bro.
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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Mar 14 2017, 09:32 AM)
thanks for your reply. so yours full load 70c. what about in game temp?

also does your cpu temp fluctuating? like 50-64c and drop to 49c.
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CPU temp during gaming was hovering around 60-70c depending on the game titles.

Temp fluctuates as the CPU load level goes up and down. Look at this example:
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Hmm let me do some oc also with my 7700k haha
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 7 2017, 04:08 PM)
Hmm let me do some oc also with my 7700k haha
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What's your motherboard, RAM and cooling?
Can't wait to see your OC results biggrin.gif
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Benching time...

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7700K
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Stock memory frequency - DDR4-4266MHz CL19-19-19-39-2T @ 1.40v
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Board and RAM are strong overclockers, managed to push the memory to DDR4-4300MHz without touching the stock voltage of 1.40v
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 7 2017, 10:16 PM)
Benching time...

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7700K
ROG Maximus IX APEX
G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266MHz 2x8GB

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Stock memory frequency - DDR4-4266MHz CL19-19-19-39-2T @ 1.40v
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Board and RAM are strong overclockers, managed to push the memory to DDR4-4300MHz without touching the stock voltage of 1.40v
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Exact same as u. Hahaha
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Jus got the ram today also

Just got time to play around

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Retired so long already. Gimme some tips to oc
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 8 2017, 02:38 AM)
Jus got the ram today also
Just got time to play around
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 8 2017, 02:42 AM)
Retired so long already. Gimme some tips to oc
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Lol, so you're the one who ordered the RAM from IdealTech?

OCbility is huge on this Samsung B-die memory kit. The most important thing is you need to play a lot with VCCSA and VCCIO voltages.

But first of all, have you managed to get the RAM run at its specified frequency as of XMP @ DDR4-4266 C19?

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Lol, so you're the one who ordered the RAM from IdealTech?

OCbility is huge on this Samsung B-die memory kit. The most important thing is you need to play a lot with VCCSA and VCCIO voltages.

But first of all, have you managed to get the RAM run at its specified frequency as of XMP @ DDR4-4266 C19?
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haha yes idealtech

i wanna run with adaptive voltage so don wanna change the bclk
4133 will do for me

whats the best speed and timing u can get for 1t stable?

under 1.4v dram voltage

and what sa and vccio voltage? heheh
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 8 2017, 12:47 PM)
haha yes idealtech

i wanna run with adaptive voltage so don wanna change the bclk
4133 will do for me

whats the best speed and timing u can get for 1t stable?

under 1.4v dram voltage

and what sa and vccio voltage? heheh
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Kaby Lake doesn't like 1T and requires voltage bump, addition training, and skill that's why I don't bother using it. 2T for now.
Buying a 4266 kit but running at 4133 IMO kind of waste of money, you should just take the 4133 instead of this, just saying.
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Haha because I'm very stable at 5.1 now don't wanna mess with the bclk
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 8 2017, 01:28 PM)
Haha because I'm very stable at 5.1 now don't wanna mess with the bclk
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Pretty sure you can do that manually bro smile.gif
How much is your 7700K's load voltage @ 5.1?
What's your chip's VID bro? (Read through UEFI with everything default and power saving features disabled)
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Using llc 5
Vcore in bios 1.347
Readings in hwmonitor in 1.36
Temp max at 62-65 using aio
Thinking whether should I go custom wc
It's quite waste
Better to throw another 1080ti in better for the cost of custom wc

Vid I'm not sure
Got little time for the comp
Later midnight I'll find out
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Btw I'm using avx offset 1
To get to 5.2 need a lot more vcore
I guess the cpu hits the wall at 5.1
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 8 2017, 01:35 PM)
Pretty sure you can do that manually bro  smile.gif
How much is your 7700K's load voltage @ 5.1?
What's your chip's VID bro? (Read through UEFI with everything default and power saving features disabled)
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Bro what's ur phone number haha
Anything I don know can whatsapp u lol
I only got 1-2 hours for comp everyday only
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Here's what I found after few days playing with the 4266 kit

1) with XMP profile loaded at 4266 19-19-19-39 @ 1.40v, the RAM gives a lot of 55 code at reboot. This could be due to the PCB with the LED causing unncessary interferences or the mobo (BIOS) is not fine-tuned to achieve such a high mem frequency
2) the RAM runs fine with perfect reboot at 4133 19-19-19-39 @ 1.35v
3 G.Skill RGB software is still in beta stage, so it has compatibility/conflict issues with ASUS Aura software in which both software can't be used at the same time. In my case, I just use ASUS's software to control both mobo and RAM
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 9 2017, 02:15 PM)
Here's what I found after few days playing with the 4266 kit

1) with XMP profile loaded at 4266 19-19-19-39 @ 1.40v, the RAM gives a lot of 55 code at reboot. This could be due to the PCB with the LED causing unncessary interferences or the mobo (BIOS) is not fine-tuned to achieve such a high mem frequency
2) the RAM runs fine with perfect reboot at 4133 19-19-19-39 @ 1.35v
3 G.Skill RGB software is still in beta stage, so it has compatibility/conflict issues with ASUS Aura software in which both software can't be used at the same time. In my case, I just use ASUS's software to control both mobo and RAM
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hci 1000%

using it for 24/7
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 9 2017, 02:15 PM)
Here's what I found after few days playing with the 4266 kit

1) with XMP profile loaded at 4266 19-19-19-39 @ 1.40v, the RAM gives a lot of 55 code at reboot. This could be due to the PCB with the LED causing unncessary interferences or the mobo (BIOS) is not fine-tuned to achieve such a high mem frequency
2) the RAM runs fine with perfect reboot at 4133 19-19-19-39 @ 1.35v
3 G.Skill RGB software is still in beta stage, so it has compatibility/conflict issues with ASUS Aura software in which both software can't be used at the same time. In my case, I just use ASUS's software to control both mobo and RAM
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Btw I feel the best is to run this kit at 3866@c16
Performance diff is very small but latency should be much better

I'll try it out next weekend.

But I got to say I love this board n ram
Able to run such high CPU clock with so high speed ram with ease

Running integrated graphic atm
Maybe I might go higher after getting my gc and disable the 630graphic
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 9 2017, 03:48 PM)
Btw I feel the best is to run this kit at 3866@c16
Performance diff is very small but latency should be much better

I'll try it out next weekend.

But I got to say I love this board n ram
Able to run such high CPU clock with so high speed ram with ease

Running integrated graphic atm
Maybe I might go higher after getting my gc and disable the 630graphic
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Well I don't buy this kit just to see it will be downclocked
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Well I don't buy this kit just to see it will be downclocked
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Am encountering same thing as u. Not 100% post with 4266 xmp
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Well I don't buy this kit just to see it will be downclocked
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After done tuning with the ram settings, 4133 should be able to push more bandwidth n faster than 4266. Pls let me know if u find a way to get the 4266 to run stable
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If you run some synthetic benchmark, like Realbench, what is the temperature?
My Kaby Lake core i7-7700k, I can only OC'ed to 4.8GHz, Realbench temp reaching ~88'C max, if I clocked higher I'm really not comfortable with the temperature.
But come thinking of it, our daily tasks (surfing, gaming) we don't push the core going 100% utilization like what RealBench does, maybe I should go for 5GHz? (without running RealBench to stress test)...as long as it didn't blue screen when I game, I should call it stable and good enough. Is this a good way to judge a system as stable, meaning running my own apps and games, without doing RealBench?

QUOTE(acther @ Apr 8 2017, 03:22 PM)
Using llc 5
Vcore in bios 1.347
Readings in hwmonitor in 1.36
Temp max at 62-65 using aio
Thinking whether should I go custom wc
It's quite waste
Better to throw another 1080ti in better for the cost of custom wc

Vid I'm not sure
Got little time for the comp
Later midnight I'll find out
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QUOTE(tcsee @ Apr 14 2017, 02:56 PM)
Hi,
If you run some synthetic benchmark, like Realbench, what is the temperature?
My Kaby Lake core i7-7700k, I can only OC'ed to 4.8GHz, Realbench temp reaching ~88'C max, if I clocked higher I'm really not comfortable with the temperature.
But come thinking of it, our daily tasks (surfing, gaming) we don't push the core going 100% utilization like what RealBench does, maybe I should go for 5GHz? (without running RealBench to stress test)...as long as it didn't blue screen when I game, I should call it stable and good enough. Is this a good way to judge a system as stable, meaning running my own apps and games, without doing RealBench?
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My temps for realbench is 60c+ at 5ghz. CPU is delidded
u can use 2 or 3 offset for avx to keep the temps down
i guess avx is hardly used in games or software at the current point
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QUOTE(tcsee @ Apr 14 2017, 02:56 PM)
Hi,
If you run some synthetic benchmark, like Realbench, what is the temperature?
My Kaby Lake core i7-7700k, I can only OC'ed to 4.8GHz, Realbench temp reaching ~88'C max, if I clocked higher I'm really not comfortable with the temperature.
But come thinking of it, our daily tasks (surfing, gaming) we don't push the core going 100% utilization like what RealBench does, maybe I should go for 5GHz? (without running RealBench to stress test)...as long as it didn't blue screen when I game, I should call it stable and good enough. Is this a good way to judge a system as stable, meaning running my own apps and games, without doing RealBench?
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If i were u i will push the CPU to the highest with max temp under 80c
use p95 26.6 to test on the CPU stability. This version is without AVX
Then use a 2-3 offset for the AVX
Dont bother too much on the AVX haha

BTW you better off asking those sifu s here
im still new on this 7700k oc
but what i experience is 7700k is very simple to oc
its the memory part that is headache hahaha

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 14 2017, 01:35 AM)
my 1st adventure on ddr4...  sweat.gif
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I used to own the same Vengeance LED 3200C16 kit but never really had the time to push it until I decided to let it go.
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QUOTE(tcsee @ Apr 14 2017, 02:56 PM)
Hi,
If you run some synthetic benchmark, like Realbench, what is the temperature?
My Kaby Lake core i7-7700k, I can only OC'ed to 4.8GHz, Realbench temp reaching ~88'C max, if I clocked higher I'm really not comfortable with the temperature.
But come thinking of it, our daily tasks (surfing, gaming) we don't push the core going 100% utilization like what RealBench does, maybe I should go for 5GHz? (without running RealBench to stress test)...as long as it didn't blue screen when I game, I should call it stable and good enough. Is this a good way to judge a system as stable, meaning running my own apps and games, without doing RealBench?
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Realbench 85C max here at 5.0GHz under custom watercooling:
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Well, OC stability is still a debatable topic since ages ago because of different experiences by different overclockers.
You can choose to skip stability testing, gaming without instability issue and call it stable, but some other people might think achieving 100% stability is a mandatory because they need it for their work. I'd say it's up to you to decide what you need. biggrin.gif

RealBench uses AVX instructions thus generating a lot of heat. If you're not using AVX-based programs then there's no use of it. Gaming won't take any benefit of it. Like acther said, you can use the AVX offset to "control" the heat. For instance, 5.0GHz OC with AVX offset of 2 will reduce the frequency to 4.8GHz hence reducing the heat. For gaming you still get 5.0GHz with no speed reduction.
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 14 2017, 04:08 PM)
If i were u i will push the CPU to the highest with max temp under 80c
use p95 26.6 to test on the CPU stability. This version is without AVX
Then use a 2-3 offset for the AVX
Dont bother too much on the AVX haha

BTW you better off asking those sifu s here
im still new on this 7700k oc
but what i experience is 7700k is very simple to oc
its the memory part that is headache hahaha
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Regarding our 4266 RAM being unable to reboot at the rated frequency, yesterday I've actually contacted both G.Skill and ASUS HQ for advice.
Based on their reply, they are suspecting that weak CPU IMC might be the culprit.
Weak IMC means you will have to increase the VCCSA, VCCIO and/or VDIMM.

Looks like our journey is still long way to go, probably need another CPU to test out or even worse, a proper (extreme) cooling to "open" the IMC. bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 15 2017, 12:03 AM)
Regarding our 4266 RAM being unable to reboot at the rated frequency, yesterday I've actually contacted both G.Skill and ASUS HQ for advice.
Based on their reply, they are suspecting that weak CPU IMC might be the culprit.
Weak IMC means you will have to increase the VCCSA, VCCIO and/or VDIMM.

Looks like our journey is still long way to go, probably need another CPU to test out or even worse, a proper (extreme) cooling to "open" the IMC.  bangwall.gif
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I'm encountering some prob also here. I'm very stable on 4133 c18. I try to tighten up all the timings n lower to c17. Hci tends to fail at the 200% mark for 3 days trying to play around with the voltage n sub timing still no luck. Any idea?
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 15 2017, 01:44 PM)
I'm encountering some prob also here. I'm very stable on 4133 c18. I try to tighten up all the timings n lower to c17. Hci tends to fail at the 200% mark for 3 days trying to play around with the voltage n sub timing still no luck. Any idea?
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It sounds like you've hit the CAS wall at such a high memory frequency.
4133C17 is so tight AF.
I think 4133C18 should be good enough since you said it's stable.

Suddenly 4266C19 because of multiple failed reboot code 55/49, my OS corrupted sad.gif
I've got a few 7700K coming to sort out whether it's really due to weak IMC of my current chip. cool2.gif

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 16 2017, 12:07 PM)
It sounds like you've hit the CAS wall at such a high memory frequency.
4133C17 is so tight AF.
I think 4133C18 should be good enough since you said it's stable.

Suddenly 4266C19 because of multiple failed reboot code 55/49, my OS corrupted sad.gif
I've got a few 7700K coming to sort out whether it's really due to weak IMC of my current chip.  cool2.gif
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Are u sponsored? Can get so many CPU to try! Am trying to mess with rtl iol now to see if works
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 16 2017, 12:07 PM)
It sounds like you've hit the CAS wall at such a high memory frequency.
4133C17 is so tight AF.
I think 4133C18 should be good enough since you said it's stable.

Suddenly 4266C19 because of multiple failed reboot code 55/49, my OS corrupted sad.gif
I've got a few 7700K coming to sort out whether it's really due to weak IMC of my current chip.  cool2.gif
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Gskill just announced 4333 kit also haha
Get n try it out when available
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 16 2017, 04:37 PM)
Are u sponsored? Can get so many CPU to try! Am trying to mess with rtl iol now to see if works
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 16 2017, 04:43 PM)
Gskill just announced 4333 kit also haha
Get n try it out when available
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I also wish they are sponsored units lol.
Yeah that 4333 is crazy, can do 4500 19-19-19 on air

BTW, they also showcased 4500 16-16-16 during Computex 2016
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Not just that, G.Skill is currently binning for 4400 kit, coming soon.

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As an extra bonus sneak-peek, the screenshot below shows DDR4-4400MHz being stress tested. The specifications are still under development, and would require some time to be ready for market production.

http://www.ocdrift.com/g-skill-announces-d...-4500mhz-speed/

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 16 2017, 08:37 PM)
I also wish they are sponsored units lol.
Yeah that 4333 is crazy, can do 4500 19-19-19 on air

BTW, they also showcased 4500 16-16-16 during Computex 2016
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Not just that, G.Skill is currently binning for 4400 kit, coming soon.

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hahaha gonna order the 4500 when out woot!
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wow !
hahaha gonna order the 4500 when out woot!
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But... still need to figure out how to run this 4266 properly first bangwall.gif
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saw a lot of ppl able to run 4133@1T with low voltage

i think we are having some weak imc

im like only 20% able to successfuly boot with 4266 rclxub.gif

whats the best stable speed n timing u get on the ram?

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Are u sponsored? Can get so many CPU to try! Am trying to mess with rtl iol now to see if works
Good luck on that. Intel has shifted operations to Singapore, their involvement with Malaysian media has significantly reduced.

Even for past years I have to buy processors, I've been buying them since Haswell. sad.gif

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First Pentium G4560 here! rclxms.gif
I used to own the same Vengeance LED 3200C16 kit but never really had the time to push it until I decided to let it go.
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gave up already hahah
saw a lot of ppl able to run 4133@1T with low voltage

i think we are having some weak imc

im like only 20% able to successfuly boot with 4266  rclxub.gif

whats the best stable speed n timing u get on the ram?
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Kinda busy these few days, so max I tried so far is 4133 19-19-19-39-2T @ 1.35v lol. Super-stable and reboots flawlessly.
Right now I'm having issue with the Apex, so have to stop there. sad.gif

Btw, here's reply from G.Skill HQ regarding the kit being unable to run at the rated 4266 speed.

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First and foremost, I’d like to make clear that because your CPU hasn’t been tested to confirm the IMC’s capability of supporting 4266MHz, it’s likely the main reason why only XMP isn’t working.

However, I can help you through steps to find out how high of a memory frequency your CPU can support.

1.      To begin, please make sure that you go into BIOS and reset settings to optimal defaults. We need to make sure we start off from the most basic of settings, then apply setting changes to memory. It’d be good if you get into the habit of tweaking memory settings first, before making changes to the CPU, like the CPU frequency or CPU related voltages.

2.      Go into Ai Tweaker tab, and enable XMP. Then go down to the DRAM Frequency, and adjust it down to DDR4-3600MHz and change the DRAM Voltage to 1.350V. Save and exit. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If your system can’t boot at 3600MHz, please let me know. The CPU’s IMC is likely very weak.

3.      If #2 was successful, go back into BIOS, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-3866MHz. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If DDR4-3866MHz was not successful, then you might want to check the CPU thermal paste to see if it’s dried. Or if your CPU cooling fan is screwed on too tightly or not evenly. Then try #2 again.

4.      If #3 was successful, go back into BIOS, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-4000MHz. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If 4000MHz was not successful, then 3866MHz is likely your processor’s limit. In this case, make sure XMP is enabled, then change the following settings:
                                                              i.      DRAM Frequency = 3866MHz
                                                            ii.      DRAM Voltage = 1.35V
                                                            iii.      CL Timing = 18-19-19-39
                                                          iv.      Command Rate = 2

5.      If #4 was successful, go back into BIOS, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-4133MHz and change the DRAM Voltage to 1.40V. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If 4133MHz was not successful, then 4000MHz is likely the processor’s limit. In this case, make sure XMP is enabled, then change the following settings:
                                                              i.      DRAM Frequency = 4000MHz
                                                            ii.      DRAM Voltage = 1.35V
                                                            iii.      CL Timing = 18-19-19-39
                                                          iv.      Command Rate = 2

6.      If #5 was successful at 4133MHz, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-4266MHz with DRAM Voltage of 1.40V. If you are still getting error 55 or 49, hit a white “Retry” button just below the Reset button on the motherboard, and see if this helps booting into the system under XMP settings.


Kindly let me know how far you can go with the steps above. Please do note that XMP is enabled in all cases before manually changing BIOS memory settings.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 18 2017, 07:42 PM)
Kinda busy these few days, so max I tried so far is 4133 19-19-19-39-2T @ 1.35v lol. Super-stable and reboots flawlessly.
Right now I'm having issue with the Apex, so have to stop there. sad.gif

Btw, here's reply from G.Skill HQ regarding the kit being unable to run at the rated 4266 speed.
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that's d highest i can manage... temp aside limit wise it is almost there already... sweat.gif

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that's d highest i can manage... temp aside limit wise it is almost there already...  sweat.gif

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novice level at best only bro... console.gif

3600MHz on ram is a no go, should i pump more vdimm (than exisiting 1.35v)? looseen timing to 17-19-19 didnt help. vccio & vsa already @ 1.2v. sweat.gif

waitin for d delid kit to pop d chip for lower temp... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 20 2017, 10:27 PM)
novice level at best only bro...  console.gif

3600MHz on ram is a no go, should i pump more vdimm (than exisiting 1.35v)? looseen timing to 17-19-19 didnt help. vccio & vsa already @ 1.2v.  sweat.gif

waitin for d delid kit to pop d chip for lower temp...  tongue.gif

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I'd give that VCCSA a bump, say 1.35v. It's try and error to find the right VCCSA + VCCIO.
Some CPU IMC really need that much to achieve stability at higher memory frequencies.
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Finally got 4133c17 stable 1000% hci
High sa and vccio voltage has made it unstable previously
Lowered it down to 1.2 and 1.15 and everything passed with no errors
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 24 2017, 03:43 AM)
Finally got 4133c17 stable 1000% hci
High sa and vccio voltage has made it unstable previously
Lowered it down to 1.2 and 1.15 and everything passed with no errors
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Good job! Seems that your chip has a strong IMC. rclxms.gif
Any screenshot?

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Good job! Seems that your chip has a strong IMC.  rclxms.gif
Any screenshot?
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There u go the timings.
Best i could do at 1.4v for vdimm
1.15v vccio
1.2 sa
btw this is mode 1
mode 2 seems slower

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Best i could do at 1.4v for vdimm
1.15v vccio
1.2 sa
btw this is mode 1
mode 2 seems slower
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Saw a hwbot member managed to do it better with a 3600C15 kit...
4133 17-17-17-1T @ 1.375v shocking.gif
Somehow he's not able to push the same RAM up to 4266

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 24 2017, 09:39 PM)
Saw a hwbot member managed to do it better with a 3600C15 kit...
4133 17-17-17-1T @ 1.375v  shocking.gif
Somehow he's not able to push the same RAM up to 4266

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Ya saw that. I'm not able to even boot at 1T. This is the best I could do at 1.4v vdimm. Haven't try with higher voltage yet but I guess 1.4 should be ok to run 24/7.

Have u notice one thing? Their temp run way lower than ours. Almost 100% cooler. My temps are 55-60 running hci. His temp is only 32 hahah

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Benching 7700K with 2x ROG Strix GTX1080 Ti OC SLI.
Games now run ~50% faster biggrin.gif

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K @ 5.06GHz @ 1.328v
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus IX APEX
RAM: G.SKill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266MHz 2x8GB @ 4266MHz 19-19-19 @ 1.40v (XMP)
GPU: 2x ROG Strix GTX1080 Ti OC SLI @ 1708MHz GPU core/11100MHz VRAM (OC Mode)
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Cooling: Custom WC

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GPU temps (open-air): 50/52C Idle; 67/74C load (BF1 Ultra DX12) (OC Mode):
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Total system power consumption: 673.6W load (OC Mode):
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Some OC fun with Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3466 memory + ROG Apex + 7700K.

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RAM and board are strong, managed to get DDR4 pushed to 4133MHz @ 1.40v with minimal tweaking (timings are not optimized yet of course)

DDR4 3600 MHz 16-18-18-36-2T @ 1.35v:
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Some OC fun with Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3466 memory + ROG Apex + 7700K.

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RAM and board are strong, managed to get DDR4 pushed to 4133MHz @ 1.40v with minimal tweaking (timings are not optimized yet of course)

DDR4 3600 MHz 16-18-18-36-2T @ 1.35v:
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Benching 7700K with 2x ROG Strix GTX1080 Ti OC SLI.
Games now run ~50% faster  biggrin.gif

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K @ 5.06GHz @ 1.328v
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus IX APEX
RAM: G.SKill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266MHz 2x8GB @ 4266MHz 19-19-19 @ 1.40v (XMP)
GPU: 2x ROG Strix GTX1080 Ti OC SLI @ 1708MHz GPU core/11100MHz VRAM (OC Mode)
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Cooling: Custom WC

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GPU temps (open-air): 50/52C Idle; 67/74C load (BF1 Ultra DX12) (OC Mode):
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Total system power consumption: 673.6W load (OC Mode):
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Intel Advises Not to Overclock 7700K As Users Complain Over Temps
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Sifu,
Gonna get the following rig and start to OC by myself through the guides available online. Do I need to add anything to my build as I am going to place order preferably tonight.

i7 7700k
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GTX1080 MSI Armor
PSU 650W G 80 Full Modular
M.2 SSD WD Blue 500GB
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8GB RAM X 2 (Either Trident 3200 or 2600 normal one)

I supposed I have some few hundreds to spare is there any need to further improve it?

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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 23 2017, 02:15 PM)
Sifu,
Gonna get the following rig and start to OC by myself through the guides available online. Do I need to add anything to my build as I am going to place order preferably tonight.

i7 7700k
Asus Strix Z270G
Thermaltake Riing 3.0 240 Liquid Cooling
GTX1080 MSI Armor
PSU 650W G 80 Full Modular
M.2 SSD WD Blue 500GB
1TB WD Blue HDD
8GB RAM X 2 (Either Trident 3200 or 2600 normal one)

I supposed I have some few hundreds to spare is there any need to further improve it?
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That note that the Strix Z270G board doesn't offer a Debug LED that's supposed to be useful for troubleshooting error in the event of OC failure.
Other than that should be fine. biggrin.gif


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That note that the Strix Z270G board doesn't offer a Debug LED that's supposed to be useful for troubleshooting error in the event of OC failure.
Other than that should be fine. biggrin.gif
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Changing it to Z270E.
Thanks anyway.

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Hi Sifu's,

I am planning to over clock my i5 7600k. I got up to 4.6 @ 1.3v stable using the auto overclock feature on my Asus Z270F mobo. Temps was around 60-70 running on my AIO Corsair H100i v2.

Any tips or guide on doing the overclock manually? Im looking to get around 4.8 to 5.0. My biggest concern is what kind of temp I should look at and the max amount of power I should go to get those results. Thank you.
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QUOTE(frozenkid @ Jun 1 2017, 10:56 AM)
Hi Sifu's,

I am planning to over clock my i5 7600k. I got up to 4.6 @ 1.3v stable using the auto overclock feature on my Asus Z270F mobo. Temps was around 60-70 running on my AIO Corsair H100i v2.

Any tips or guide on doing the overclock manually? Im looking to get around 4.8 to 5.0. My biggest concern is what kind of temp I should look at and the max amount of power I should go to get those results. Thank you.
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Usually auto overclocking will set excessive voltage more than your CPU requires.
For 5.0GHz, I'd recommend to try out the 5GHz overclocking preset available in the UEFI BIOS. Save and reboot.
Your CPU Core Voltage is now on auto mode, you might want to reduce it to 1.25-1.3v depending on your chip and cooling limit.

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Run a stressful CPU-intensive benchmark such as X264 FHD Benchmark.
If your cooling is not able to handle the heat (>100c), reduce the CPU speed to 4.9GHz or 4.8GHz while at the same time decrease the CPU Core Voltage until you obtain the lowest possible voltage that's stable at that CPU frequency.

For more info, you might want to have a read on the OC tips and guides in the post #1 of this thread:
The Kaby Lake Overclocking Guide by Raja@ASUS
GIGABYTE Z270 (Kaby Lake) Overclocking Guide
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 1 2017, 08:36 PM)
Usually auto overclocking will set excessive voltage more than your CPU requires.
For 5.0GHz, I'd recommend to try out the 5GHz overclocking preset available in the UEFI BIOS. Save and reboot.
Your CPU Core Voltage is now on auto mode, you might want to reduce it to 1.25-1.3v depending on your chip and cooling limit.

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Run a stressful CPU-intensive benchmark such as X264 FHD Benchmark.
If your cooling is not able to handle the heat (>100c), reduce the CPU speed to 4.9GHz or 4.8GHz while at the same time decrease the CPU Core Voltage until you obtain the lowest possible voltage that's stable at that CPU frequency.

For more info, you might want to have a read on the OC tips and guides in the post #1 of this thread:
The Kaby Lake Overclocking Guide by Raja@ASUS
GIGABYTE Z270 (Kaby Lake) Overclocking Guide
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Hi Bro,

Thanks for the insight. I did try the pre-set for 5.0Ghz. The voltage was automatic as you said and it was set at 1.4v.

I was able to boot and used Aida64 to do a simple stress test. Temps was hovering around 70+celcius. However after pass 5 min into the test It went to blue screen. I did not have time to trouble shoot so I reverted back to standard config. But my guess it blue screen because of not enough voltage. So concluded that my chip may not be able to push at 5.0 in low voltage. That's why I want to do a manual over clock.

My question is, would it be blue screen even if the voltage are too high?
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Hi Bro,

Thanks for the insight. I did try the pre-set for 5.0Ghz. The voltage was automatic as you said and it was set at 1.4v.

I was able to boot and used Aida64 to do a simple stress test. Temps was hovering around 70+celcius. However after pass 5 min into the test It went to blue screen. I did not have time to trouble shoot so I reverted back to standard config. But my guess it blue screen because of not enough voltage. So concluded that my chip may not be able to push at 5.0 in low voltage. That's why I want to do a manual over clock.

My question is, would it be blue screen even if the voltage are too high?
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1.4v is kinda high for 5.0GHz, but it depends on the chip.
Some chips really love more voltage, not all 7600K can run 5.0GHz stable at low vCore.

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In your case, it looks like your chip could be a lemon. But I hope it's not smile.gif
Boot into the UEFI BIOS to check your VID (stock voltage with everything set to defaults).
Based on my experience, a good overclocking Kaby Lake CPU should have a low VID of not more than 1.2v.
These chips, specifically the 7700K in my case, should be able to clock 5.0GHz at 1.3v or lower.

Did you monitor the load vCore and what are the lowest and highest values?
FYI, vCore will fluctuate depending on the load level and the Load-line Calibration (LLC) you're using.
It could be that the lowest vCore is too low for your 5.0GHz OC at certain load time that it will trigger an insufficient voltage-related BSOD.

Speaking of the BSOD, can you see what it says on the screen? It could give you some clues on what's actually happening.
Could be other issues as well such as wrong BIOS settings (need to manually alter the loaded 5.0GHz OC profile), bad DDR4 memory etc...
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Guys, I am facing frequent BSOD in window 10 whenever I am trying to use the default preset at my MOBO to OC my rig a little. Most problem start when I launch a game.
My rig as below :
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G.Skill Trident 3200 8GB X 2

I have very minimal OC knowledge so I choose to just use the preset at my MOBO. I tried the XMP Profile to enable my 3200Mhz RAM but I encounter BSOD during gaming. I also tried the 5gb OC preset and also encounter BSOD. Resetting to default setting seems to solve the problem.
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QUOTE(starz92 @ Jun 3 2017, 09:16 AM)
Guys, I am facing frequent BSOD in window 10 whenever I am trying to use the default preset at my MOBO to OC my rig a little. Most problem start when I launch a game.
My rig as below :
i7-7700k
Asus Z270E
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I have very minimal OC knowledge so I choose to just use the preset at my MOBO. I tried the XMP Profile to enable my 3200Mhz but I encounter BSOD during gaming. I also tried the 5gb OC preset and also encounter BSOD. Resetting to default setting seems to solve the problem.
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Hi bro,

By the way, what "default preset" did you use? What are your core/cache/RAM frequencies and core/RAM/VCCSA (System Agent)/VCCIO voltages?

Getting BSOD with XMP @ 3200MHz is sometimes related to insufficient voltage issue. Try give the VCCSA and VCCIO a bump like 1.25-1.35v and 1.175-1.25v. It's chip dependent, every CPU has different strength of Integrated Memory Controller (IMC). Weak CPU IMC will require higher values to achieve stability and vice versa.

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As for "5.0GHz OC preset", how much is your core voltage (vCore)? It could be insufficient voltage, try increasing the CPU Core Voltage a bit. Again, it's also chip dependent. Every chip was born unique, hence they have different VID (stock voltage at default clocks). So to find the best voltage for 5.0GHz OC you will have to go with trial and error.


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Hi bro,

By the way, what "default preset" did you use? What are your core/cache/RAM frequencies and core/RAM/VCCSA (System Agent)/VCCIO voltages?

Getting BSOD with XMP @ 3200MHz is sometimes related to insufficient voltage issue. Try give the VCCSA and VCCIO a bump like 1.25-1.35v and 1.175-1.25v. It's chip dependent, every CPU has different strength of Integrated Memory Controller (IMC). Weak CPU IMC will require higher values to achieve stability and vice versa.

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As for "5.0GHz OC preset", how much is your core voltage (vCore)? It could be insufficient voltage, try increasing the CPU Core Voltage a bit. Again, it's also chip dependent. Every chip was born unique, hence they have different VID (stock voltage at default clocks). So to find the best voltage for 5.0GHz OC you will have to go with trial and error.
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Hey bro, tq for the reply.
The XMP Profile I just click the XMP Profile 1 (the only choice available at my Bios). Not sure of the setting but will look into it when I am home.
I realised that I am only able to choose either XMP or "5.0GHz OC preset" ? Will the 5.0GHz OC enable my RAM to run at 3200 Mhz?
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QUOTE(starz92 @ Jun 3 2017, 10:07 AM)
Hey bro, tq for the reply.
The XMP Profile I just click the XMP Profile 1 (the only choice available at my Bios). Not sure of the setting but will look into it when I am home.
I realised that I am only able to choose either XMP or "5.0GHz OC preset" ? Will the 5.0GHz OC enable my RAM to run at 3200 Mhz?
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You can choose to select either one or both of them together.
Afaik, loading the 5.0 OC preset will not automatically activate the XMP profile, and vice versa.
To use both, you will need to firstly select XMP profile and then load the 5.0GHz OC preset.
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You can choose to select either one or both of them together.
Afaik, loading the 5.0 OC preset will not automatically activate the XMP profile, and vice versa.
To use both, you will need to firstly select XMP profile and then load the 5.0GHz OC preset.
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will selecting 5.0Ghz OC preset after XMP profile reset the XMP Profile or both can work together?
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will selecting 5.0Ghz OC preset after XMP profile reset the XMP Profile or both can work together?
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As mentioned earlier, both can work together.
But must in XMP and then 5.0GHz order.
The 5.0GHz OC Preset will not overwrite RAM-related settings but only the CPU-related settings.
You can try it in UEFI BIOS.

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As mentioned earlier, both can work together.
But must in XMP and then 5.0GHz order.
The 5.0GHz OC Preset will not overwrite RAM-related settings but only the CPU-related settings.
You can try it in UEFI BIOS.
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Just now tried xmp then 5.0Ghz preset together with the voltage setting as shown in your screenshot but unable to in to window. Now I just used xmp with your voltage setting and can work smoothly already. Ltr will try on the 5.0Ghz preset again
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Just now tried xmp then 5.0Ghz preset together with the voltage setting as shown in your screenshot but unable to in to window. Now I just used xmp with your voltage setting and can work smoothly already. Ltr will try on the 5.0Ghz preset again
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Although the 5.0GHz OC preset will automatically set everything for you, some CPUs require further fine-tuning particularly the voltages.
I think you need to play around with the Digi+VRM settings such as the CPU Load-line Calibration (LLC) and other VRM power:

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Hi Guys,

Well here are my latest update over the weekend.

I am pretty pleased with the results. I am stable at 4.8Ghz with 1.35volts after 4 hours of stress test on Aida64 and 3 hours on intel extreme stress test. I am however facing issues with ROG stress test tool. The error I keep getting is "Luxmark is unresponding". I read somewhere that it is bugged.

The leading up to this results there are funny issues I faced. I did try the 5.0Ghz preset settings from asus but the voltage was set at 4.2volts which is too high for my taste. I tried bring the voltage down but anything below 4.2 would crash once I start Aida64. Even if I put 4.9Ghz at below 1.40v would crash.

What I find ironic is that even it is a 0.1 difference but the voltage increment is substantial.

Well as for temps @ 4.8Ghz I am hovering around 70-85 Degress on max load. It is below 80 degrees for most time during gaming.

I have a question. I am now using manual on my cpu volt/cache @ 1.35v. I plan to change it to adaptive. My stock volt is below 1.2v. So from what ive learnt is that 1.35v - 1.2v = +0.15v to be placed in the adaptive field. Can someone advise me on this? thank you.

Btw I will be uploading all my screen shots tonight.

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Hi Guys,

Well here are my latest update over the weekend.

I am pretty pleased with the results. I am stable at 4.8Ghz with 1.35volts after 4 hours of stress test on Aida64 and 3 hours on intel extreme stress test. I am however facing issues with ROG stress test tool. The error I keep getting is "Luxmark is unresponding". I read somewhere that it is bugged.

The leading up to this results there are funny issues I faced. I did try the 5.0Ghz preset settings from asus but the voltage was set at 4.2volts which is too high for my taste. I tried bring the voltage down but anything below 4.2 would crash once I start Aida64. Even if I put 4.9Ghz at below 1.40v would crash.

What I find ironic is that even it is a 0.1 difference but the voltage increment is substantial.

Well as for temps @ 4.8Ghz I am hovering around 70-85 Degress on max load. It is below 80 degrees for most time during gaming.

I have a question. I am now using manual on my cpu volt/cache @ 1.35v. I plan to change it to adaptive. My stock volt is below 1.2v. So from what ive learnt is that 1.35v - 1.2v = +0.15v to be placed in the adaptive field. Can someone advise me on this? thank you.

Btw I will be uploading all my screen shots tonight.
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Yes, that's how the adaptive method works smile.gif
You can also enter a value of 1.35 in the Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage box.

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Source: https://rog.asus.com/articles/guides/the-ka...clocking-guide/

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Yes, that's how the adaptive method works smile.gif
You can also enter a value of 1.35 in the Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage box.

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Source: https://rog.asus.com/articles/guides/the-ka...clocking-guide/
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Thanks a lot bro. Ill go check it out tonight. Cheers.
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Hi Sifus,

My rig is i7-6700K and Asus z170 Pro Gaming

I set my bios to 1.280 VID at 4300MHZ
I ran all bench mark and stress test and it passed good.
It is a mild overclock for my kind of rig...most would do 4500Mhz or even 5k with higher voltages.

My question is...everytime I boot up my computer
1 in 5 boot ups...it will not boot up and on AUTO will reBOOT(like pressing the restart button) and then 2nd time will boot up fine.
Only happens once every 5 times I switch on my computer, other 4 times is normal successful boot ups.

Is this ok? Or do I have to increase my voltage a little more for a stable boot up process. Like 100% success rate error free boot up...


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Hi Sifus,

My rig is i7-6700K and Asus z170 Pro Gaming

I set my bios to 1.280 VID at 4300MHZ
I ran all bench mark and stress test and it passed good.
It is a mild overclock for my kind of rig...most would do 4500Mhz or even 5k with higher voltages.

My question is...everytime I boot up my computer
1 in 5 boot ups...it will not boot up and on AUTO will reBOOT(like pressing the restart button) and then 2nd time will boot up fine.
Only happens once every 5 times I switch on my computer, other 4 times is normal successful boot ups.

Is this ok? Or do I have to increase my voltage a little more for a stable boot up process. Like 100% success rate error free boot up...
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Hi,

What benchmark and stress test did you run?
If those were CPU-intensive benchmark tools such as XTU, Cinebench, Realbench, etc, then I believe CPU voltage shouldn't be an issue here.
It could be a RAM-related issues such insufficient RAM/VCCSA/VCCIO voltages, wrong timing settings etc that your software didn't stress enough RAM.
Did you also experience the same auto reboot issue at default CPU/RAM/etc settings?
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Hi,

What benchmark and stress test did you run?
If those were CPU-intensive benchmark tools such as XTU, Cinebench, Realbench, etc, then I believe CPU voltage shouldn't be an issue here.
It could be a RAM-related issues such insufficient RAM/VCCSA/VCCIO voltages, wrong timing settings etc that your software didn't stress enough RAM.
Did you also experience the same auto reboot issue at default CPU/RAM/etc settings?
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Hi owikh84,

I did the Realbench like 5-6 times...
You might be on to something here...it could be the RAM. I hear that there are problems with the Corsair LPX Vengeance series(mine 3000mhz 16gb) with my Asus z170 Pro Gaming boards.
For the RAM overclock i just switched on XMP 2.0. without tweaking anything else...and i remember even before overclocking my CPU, there were some auto reboot instances.

Out of the box, stock configuration 4000mhz + 2333mhz ram = there is no auto reboot
4000mhz + 3000mhz ram = sometimes auto reboot- 1/5
4300mhz + 3000mhz ram = sometimes auto reboot -1/5

Let me try tweaking my RAM configurations...
Any tips ?
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Hi owikh84,

I did the Realbench like 5-6 times...
You might be on to something here...it could be the RAM. I hear that there are problems with the Corsair LPX Vengeance series(mine 3000mhz 16gb) with my Asus z170 Pro Gaming boards.
For the RAM overclock i just switched on XMP 2.0. without tweaking anything else...and i remember even before overclocking my CPU, there were some auto reboot instances.

Out of the box, stock configuration 4000mhz + 2333mhz ram = there is no auto reboot
4000mhz + 3000mhz ram = sometimes auto reboot- 1/5
4300mhz + 3000mhz ram = sometimes auto reboot -1/5

Let me try tweaking my RAM configurations...
Any tips ?
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Sounds like insufficient voltage issue, specifically the System Agent voltage (VCCSA).
After applying XMP, try increasing it a bit like 1.25-1.35v (depending on strength of your CPU's integrated memory controller AKA IMC).
Weak IMC means you will need to pump more VCCSA.
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Sounds like insufficient voltage issue, specifically the System Agent voltage (VCCSA).
After applying XMP, try increasing it a bit like 1.25-1.35v (depending on strength of your CPU's integrated memory controller AKA IMC).
Weak IMC means you will need to pump more VCCSA.
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I gonna try this...
1. Press F5 key while in BIOS to load optimized defaults
2. Press F10 key then OK to save and reboot
3. Choose XMP Ai Overclock Tuner setting while in BIOS
4. Move down to "DRAM Voltage" field then type 1.37 <ENTER>
5. Move to next field "CPU VCCIO Voltage" then type 1.20 <ENTER>
6. Move to next field "CPU System Agent Voltage" then type 1.20 <ENTER>
7. Press F10 key then OK to save and reboot

Repeat steps 4, 5 and 6 above using just the (+) key to increase voltage one press at a time if you still have issues.


Btw anyway to know if the RAM overclocking is stable ? because 4/5 times it will boot successfully, but 1/5 will fail.
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Btw anyway to know if the RAM overclocking is stable ? because 4/5 times it will boot successfully, but 1/5 will fail.
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I use Hyper Pi 32m or Memtest-HCI: http://hcidesign.com/memtest/

For Hyper Pi, pretty much straightforward. Just run the 32m test with full core/thread

For Memtest, use one instance for each CPU thread.
At least 500% no error
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brand new set from rma just got it yesterday.
im changing to x299 so not in use anymore

interested can PM me. Letting go cheap

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anyone here doing delidding service?
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anyone here doing delidding service?
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If you have the courage to do it by yourself, can consider buying this Delid kit

Good luck! icon_rolleyes.gif
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actually i have a used rock it delid kit (relid kit included) & a brand new liquid ultra to let go, anyone keen? back to amd so it's collecting dust now. tongue.gif
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actually i have a used rock it delid kit (relid kit included) & a brand new liquid ultra to let go, anyone keen? back to amd so it's collecting dust now.  tongue.gif
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Wow didn't know that you have a delid tool bro!
Actually I also have one Rockit as well, haven't used it yet.
I think I will not delid my 7700K, resell and buy 8700K instead bwahhaha biggrin.gif
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Anyone still active ocing skylake? Needed some help here.

I just setup 6700k with Asrock 170M Pro4. But it seems that i cant oc it to 4.5ghz. I have set the multiplier to 45 in bios, voltage at 1.35v. But in windows, it still said my proc is at 4.0ghz. Or am i doing it wrong? This is my first time ocing skylake.

Set multiplier at 45. Other setting untouched.
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Manually set voltage to 1.35v.
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Other setting untouched
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And, what whats bothering me is the temp. In bios the temp already reach 64c. But, in windows i check with HWMonitor and Speccy, the temp is around 38c during idle.
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Do a CPU LOAD test and see whether CPU-Z shows 4.5Ghz.
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Do a CPU LOAD test and see whether CPU-Z shows 4.5Ghz.
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Thanks for the reply. I run stress test on cpuz. Within 5 minutes of testing, it crashed. Wonder is it bcoz of the temp?

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I'm using custom loop with 360mm rad. GPU temp seems quite cool. Probably i didnt tighten the wb enough? Or the temp is not accurate? hmm.gif

Oh btw, the proc is running at 4.5ghz rite? Coz confuse with one showing the correct speed @_@

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Thanks for the reply. I run stress test on cpuz. Within 5 minutes of testing, it crashed. Wonder is it bcoz of the temp?

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I'm using custom loop with 360mm rad. GPU temp seems quite cool. Probably i didnt tighten the wb enough? Or the temp is not accurate?  hmm.gif

Oh btw, the proc is running at 4.5ghz rite? Coz confuse with one showing the correct speed @_@
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To be able to see your CPU operating at the desired frequency (4.5GHz in your case), change your power plan to "High Performance":
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Use CPU-Z to to check your CPU frequency.
Use Core Temp to monitor your CPU core temperatures.
Alternatively, HWInfo64 can be used to monitor both CPU speed and temperatures etc.
Download links available in the top post of this thread.

System crashing has many possibilities, check the BSOD message.
It could be due to overheat, wrong BIOS settings or insufficient voltages (vCore, vDIMM, VCCIO, VCCSA etc).
Most probably is insufficient vCore that feeds voltage to the CPU.
I saw your're using Load-line Calibration (LLC) level 4, which could cause too much vDroop (load vCore is too low). Perhaps you should try the lower level to reduce vDroop, best would be level 1 (minimum vDroop).
If LLC level 1 still crashing, then you should increase your vCore, notch by notch until your system is fully stable.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 13 2017, 10:33 PM)
To be able to see your CPU operating at the desired frequency (4.5GHz in your case), change your power plan to "High Performance":
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Use CPU-Z to to check your CPU frequency.
Use Core Temp to monitor your CPU core temperatures.
Alternatively, HWInfo64 can be used to monitor both CPU speed and temperatures etc.
Download links available in the top post of this thread.

System crashing has many possibilities, check the BSOD message.
It could be due to overheat, wrong BIOS settings or insufficient voltages (vCore, vDIMM, VCCIO, VCCSA etc).
Most probably is insufficient vCore that feeds voltage to the CPU.
I saw your're using Load-line Calibration (LLC) level 4, which could cause too much vDroop (load vCore is too low). Perhaps you should try the lower level to reduce vDroop, best would be level 1 (minimum vDroop).
If LLC level 1 still crashing, then you should increase your vCore, notch by notch until your system is fully stable.
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Ahhh, now i can see the clock speed at 4.5ghz after changing the power plan. Thanks for the tip. I also manage to stress the cpu (using cpuz only) for about 10 minutes with temp around 71-73c. Didnt proceed to with other test as i'm a bit worried bcoz my psu is only bronze rated (evga 500w). Will do a proper test when i managed to upgrade the psu.
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Ahhh, now i can see the clock speed at 4.5ghz after changing the power plan. Thanks for the tip. I also manage to stress the cpu (using cpuz only) for about 10 minutes with temp around 71-73c. Didnt proceed to with other test as i'm a bit worried bcoz my psu is only bronze rated (evga 500w). Will do a proper test when i managed to upgrade the psu.
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Easy right? Haha you're welcome bro biggrin.gif
Btw, CPU-Z is not a CPU stressing tool, not even a good software for benchmark.
Run Prime95, LinX, OCCT (these 3 very stressful and too hot), AIDA64 Stability Test (less stressful), XTU, Realbench, etc.
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Easy right? Haha you're welcome bro biggrin.gif
Btw, CPU-Z is not a CPU stressing tool, not even a good software for benchmark.
Run Prime95, LinX, OCCT (these 3 very stressful and too hot), AIDA64 Stability Test (less stressful), XTU, Realbench, etc.
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Quite easy playing with multiplier only. But, havent found sweet spot yet.

A little update. So, i changed my psu to Leadex 650w silver and running Prime95 at stock clock just to test whats the temp at full load @ stock clock. Quite shocking as the temp already reach 80C during 15 minutes of blend test blink.gif Is that normal for stock clock to reach that high temp? i'm using custom loop (360mm magicool rad with tt riing fan).

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Sep 14 2017, 11:03 AM)
Quite easy playing with multiplier only. But, havent found sweet spot yet.

A little update. So, i changed my psu to Leadex 650w silver and running Prime95 at stock clock just to test whats the temp at full load @ stock clock. Quite shocking as the temp already reach 80C during 15 minutes of blend test  blink.gif  Is that normal for stock clock to reach that high temp? i'm using custom loop (360mm magicool rad with tt riing fan).

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Unfortunately I have have any good temperature data to compare with yours, but my last 6700K at stock clock (4.2GHz) registered around 55-65C at full load in AIDA64 under a custom loop powered by a pair of 360mm radiators. It's hard to tell unless we have identical systems to compare with each other.

Recent gen Intel CPUs, including the 6700K have thermal issue due the ineffective Intel thermal paste used and excessive gap between inside the chip, which cause inefficient thermal dissipation between the chip die and the integrated heatspreader (IHS).

Anyway Prime95 is an unrealistic punishment of a CPU, generating a lot of heat compared to daily usage. So it's quite normal to see insane temperature during the stress test. Perhaps you should try reducing the vCore to shave off few degrees?
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actually i have a used rock it delid kit (relid kit included) & a brand new liquid ultra to let go, anyone keen? back to amd so it's collecting dust now.  tongue.gif
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hi, is 7700k worth to delid ? currently running 4.6 @ 1.230V. stability test using aida64 at 65-70c
whats the advantage to delid and go till 5.0?

tq all

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QUOTE(ChannelChan @ Oct 12 2017, 03:34 PM)
hi, is 7700k worth to delid ? currently running 4.6 @ 1.230V. stability test using aida64 at 65-70c
whats the advantage to delid and go till 5.0?
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Yes it's worth. 7700k is a hot chip right out of the box, due to the poor TIM and excessive gap between the IHS and chip's die.
At a mild OC like 4.6GHz you won't see much of the heat output, but when you go higher then only you will notice the hotness reaching 100C.
Delidding will give significant lower temperatures by around 20C off, which is a huge figure.

My chip runs at 5.0GHz @ 1.275v and the temp during gaming is 80C while stress testing can reach as high as 90C.
Hotter temp means my cooling fans will spin faster, resulting in the increase of noise level.
By delidding my CPU, my chip should be able to run at ~70C with a lower fan speed and much quieter.

Why OC till 5.0GHz? Because you can get extra performance and remove possibility of any CPU bottleneck.
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Yes it's worth. 7700k is a hot chip right out of the box, due to the poor TIM and excessive gap between the IHS and chip's die.
At a mild OC like 4.6GHz you won't see much of the heat output, but when you go higher then only you will notice the hotness reaching 100C.
Delidding will give significant lower temperatures by around 20C off, which is a huge figure.

My chip runs at 5.0GHz @ 1.275v and the temp during gaming is 80C while stress testing can reach as high as 90C.
Hotter temp means my cooling fans will spin faster, resulting in the increase of noise level.
By delidding my CPU, my chip should be able to run at ~70C with a lower fan speed and much quieter.

Why OC till 5.0GHz? Because you can get extra performance and remove possibility of any CPU bottleneck.
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yes fan noise is damn irritating , like driving a Turbo Jet!!
will consider delid it . bye bye warranty cry.gif
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QUOTE(ChannelChan @ Oct 12 2017, 09:48 PM)
but then, cpu damn lasting right wont suddenly GG right..  hmm.gif
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Pertamax for Coffee Lake.  tongue.gif

Corsair AIO 280MM with 70% speed of 1250rpm fan.
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Temperature almost 100 sweat.gif

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Temperature almost 100 sweat.gif
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Yes. It's normal for Intel chips when you push hard on the 14nm processors.
2 reasons.
It's running on 70% of 1250 rpm fans.
I didn't apply new thermal paste.
I took out my AIO from Skylake i7, I saw some residue paste there, I just fixed it on Coffee Lake.
I was lazy to apply new thermal paste because it was 3am in the morning when I installed the new processor and mobo.

I'm waiting for new grizzly thermal paste and delid kit.
Then only I'll apply new thermal paste.

P/S 4.8GHz @ 1.3v is the sweetest spot. With low rpm fan setup and old thermal paste, temperature doesn't go beyond 65c in games.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 17 2017, 01:28 AM)
Yes. It's normal for Intel chips when you push hard on the 14nm processors.
2 reasons. 
It's running on 70% of 1250 rpm fans.
I didn't apply new thermal paste.
I took out my AIO from Skylake i7, I saw some residue paste there, I just fixed it on Coffee Lake.
I was lazy to apply new thermal paste because it was 3am in the morning when I installed the new processor and mobo.

I'm waiting for new grizzly thermal paste and delid kit.
Then only I'll apply new thermal paste.

P/S 4.8GHz @ 1.3v is the sweetest spot. With low rpm fan setup and old thermal paste, temperature doesn't go beyond 65c in games.
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Congrats on your purchase, welcome to Coffee Lake club.

Is that your best vCore or can it go lower?
Did you notice any vdroop (load voltage drops too much from BIOS set)?
What's your vCore set in the UEFI BIOS, CPU-Z idle and load?

P/S: I'm also waiting for my 8700K from Active Lancing biggrin.gif

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Congrats on your purchase, welcome to Coffee Lake club.

Is that your best vCore or can it go lower?
Did you notice any vdroop (load voltage drops too much from BIOS set)?
What's your vCore set in the UEFI BIOS, CPU-Z idle and load?

P/S: I'm also waiting for my 8700K from Active Lancing biggrin.gif
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Yes, I think this is the best vcore.
There is an error in OCCT when I lower than 1.3v @ 4.8GHz.

I set 1.3v in bios.
The core voltage reading on CPU-Z is 1.288v under load.

I got my 8700K from Active Lansing last Wednesday. thumbup.gif
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What Prime95 version are you using?

v26.6 and below have no AVX/FMA3 instruction
v27.9 has less stressful AVX, no FMA3
v28.5 and newer has stressful AVX+FMA3

Edit: I can see FMA3 in your SS so should be one of the latest versions.
Your CPU core temps look great.

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OC Guide for GIGABYTE Z370 board, top post updated.

[JOOMAG] GIGABYTE Z370 OC Guide

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What Prime95 version are you using?

v26.6 and below have no AVX/FMA3 instruction
v27.9 has less stressful AVX, no FMA3
v28.5 and newer has stressful AVX+FMA3

Edit: I can see FMA3 in your SS so should be one of the latest versions.
Your CPU core temps look great.
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im using same prime95 at 7700k a few second temp rise to 100c

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Officially jump on the bandwagon...

ROG Maximus X Apex and TUF Z370-Pro Gaming are here.
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Let's start with the Apex rclxm9.gif
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First thing to do is of course to overclock the i5-8600K CPU to 5.0GHz (BIOS set 1.425v, LLC5) and run Cinebench R15:
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CPU score: 1221 cb (7700K @ 5.0GHz: 1087 cb)

Currently, I am also testing the LLC in Realbench 2.44 (AVX) to see the vdroop/vdrop. This is just part of the results:
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LLC works fine for me, vdroop = -0.016v, despite ROG Strix Z370-F users are complaining about 0.08-0.09v vdroop.

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Also note the core temps, idle @ 57.3C, load @ 85.3C, which are in my opinion a bit on the high side.
Cooling is custom loop lowered by a pair of 360mm radiators in push-pull fan configuration.



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QUOTE(keyo @ Oct 19 2017, 08:34 PM)
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ambient temp 30+ rumah tak ada ac
bios votage 1.39v
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Still under 100C rclxms.gif , not bad for a 8C/16T CPU actually.
Reducing the uncore/cache speed could shave the temps off a bit if you're not planing to delid the chip.
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Is it this need to adjust
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Extracted from KBL OC guide but should also apply to CFL as well.
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CPU Standby Voltage: Leave at Auto for all normal overclocking. Adjustment of this rail is only required for extreme overclocking with sub-zero cooling.

https://edgeup.asus.com/2017/kaby-lake-overclocking-guide/5/

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Officially jump on the bandwagon...

ROG Maximus X Apex and TUF Z370-Pro Gaming are here.
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Let's start with the Apex  rclxm9.gif
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First thing to do is of course to overclock the i5-8600K CPU to 5.0GHz (BIOS set 1.425v, LLC5) and run Cinebench R15:
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CPU score: 1221 cb (7700K @ 5.0GHz: 1087 cb)

Currently, I am also testing the LLC in Realbench 2.44 (AVX) to see the vdroop/vdrop. This is just part of the results:
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LLC works fine for me, vdroop = -0.016v, despite ROG Strix Z370-F users are complaining about 0.08-0.09v vdroop.

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Also note the core temps, idle @ 57.3C, load @ 85.3C, which are in my opinion a bit on the high side.
Cooling is custom loop lowered by a pair of 360mm radiators in push-pull fan configuration.
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is it tuf gaming pro have same issue vdroop like tuf gaming plus
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QUOTE(keyo @ Oct 22 2017, 11:27 PM)
is it tuf gaming pro have same issue vdroop like tuf gaming plus

No idea as I have not tested the TUF board yet.
All of the ROG Strix models except for Strix-H have recently received a BIOS update to fix the LLC issue.
Seems like LLC issue on the TUF series and Strix-H will not be fixed by ASUS.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?9...-UEFI-0419-0426

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Did I just hit the silicon lottery for my retail 8700K?
Batch L729B568 with VID 1.088v.
5.0GHz primed stable for 3 hours @ 1.280v at full load (BIOS set 1.30V, LLC5).
core temp 79C max (76.5C average, ambient @ 30C non-AC room).

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Mobo: ROG Maximus X Apex (BIOS 0601)
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3200 C16 2X8GB
GC: ROG Strix GTX 1080 Ti OC SLI
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
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Did I just hit the silicon lottery for my retail 8700K?
Batch L729B568 with VID 1.088v.
5.0GHz primed stable for 3 hours @ 1.280v at full load (BIOS set 1.30V, LLC5).
core temp 79C max (76.5C average, ambient @ 30C non-AC room).

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Mobo: ROG Maximus X Apex (BIOS 0601)
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3200 C16 2X8GB
GC: ROG Strix GTX 1080 Ti OC SLI
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Cooling: Custom WC

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Is it xtreme 4 batter then tuf tq
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Extreme4 (RM 800) has better VRM quality than the TUF-Pro/Plus, for smoother power delivery to the CPU.
Extreme4 does not have LLC issue with the latest BIOS update while there's no solution for the TUF.
However, both don't have debug LED for error troubleshooting.

If you have more budget, can consider the Fatal1ty Gaming K6 (RM900+) with a debug LED, onboard power/reset buttons, dual Intel LAN ports with teaming support.
Add RM 100 you can get the Taichi (RM 1000+) with dual Intel LAN + Wi-Fi, 3x M.2 slots.
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Some Cinebench R15 benchmarks with my undelidded 8700K...

5.0GHz @ 1.216v
5.1GHz @ 1.264v
5.2GHz @ 1.344v

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Of course, Prime95 29.3 would demand higher voltage hence hotter.




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Nice bro, what is your VID showed in the UEFI screen with everything set to default?
I believe 1.296v is your idle vCore. What is your BIOS set vCore, load vCore, and LLC used?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 30 2017, 04:59 PM)
Nice bro, what is your VID showed in the UEFI screen with everything set to default?
I believe 1.296v is your idle vCore. What is your BIOS set vCore, load vCore, and LLC used?
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at this board its show 1.12v. i think TUF show false vid
at bios i set 1.3v cpuz show 1.296v llc level 1(with this setting i can play battlefield 1 not crash)
i try 5ghz until 1.36 v the temp goes until 100c then i stop prime
lower then that 1.36v prime not run sad

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QUOTE(keyo @ Oct 30 2017, 05:41 PM)
at this board its show 1.12v. i think TUF show false vid
at bios i set 1.3v cpuz show 1.296v llc level 1(with this setting i can play battlefield 1 not crash)
i try 5ghz until 1.36 v the temp goes until 100c then i stop prime
lower then that 1.36v prime not run sad
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If you don't do video encoding, you can use Prime95 v26.6 (no AVX2/FMA3 instructions).
It's less stressful than the v29.3, hence requiring less vCore to stabilize.

My v26.6 with the 8700K OCed to 5.0GHz @ 1.248v load (BIOS set 1.280v, LLC5):
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 29 2017, 11:35 AM)
My first noob attempt at BCLK oc on Skylake. Prime95 v29.3, OCCT, AIDA64 stress test stable. (My last oc was on C2D E8400 sweat.gif )
Great to see BCLK OC is still allowed in the latest BIOS version.
I really thought that SKY OC function has already been removed from v2.10 but I was wrong, it is still there. rclxms.gif

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still rookie in oc just delid my 7700k with aoros gaming 5
4.8ghz 1.285 max temp 80?
, can anyone here guide me ?
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QUOTE(kaicherc @ Oct 31 2017, 01:21 AM)
still  rookie in oc just delid my 7700k with aoros gaming 5
4.8ghz 1.285 max temp 80?
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Hi, welcome to OC club.
To begin, what is your cooling setup?
What thermal paste did you reapply after delidding?
Regular TIM should shave off like 10-15C while liquid metal paste another 10C reduction.
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Benching retail ROG Maximus X Hero...
It appears to be a great board as well, requiring the same amount vCore as the Apex rclxms.gif

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i3 8350k

highest 4.9 bios 1.41v
5ghz tested until 1.45v crash
when using 8700k mr ram can oc to 3400 wiht this ican go 3200 only

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QUOTE(keyo @ Nov 2 2017, 12:33 AM)
i3 8350k

highest 4.9 bios 1.41v
5ghz tested until 1.45v crash
when using 8700k mr ram can oc to 3400 wiht this ican go 3200 only
Like I told you earlier bro.
It is expected that not all 8350K is able to OC to 5.0GHz at a reasonable voltage, most of them can't.
As far as I know, RAM OC of this quad CPU is also worse than 8700K. Must be lowly binned by Intel.
For OC, 8700K & 8600K are still the best choice.
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batch l730c305
vid 1.12v
custom wc
prime 95 1344 25min test
bios 1.36v
still have vrm drop

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QUOTE(keyo @ Nov 4 2017, 01:02 AM)
batch l730c305
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prime 95 1344 25min test
bios 1.36v
still have vrm drop

Did you mean vdroop? Load voltage drops too much?
For Prime95, I noticed that I'd need to increase the vCore a bit to get it stable at higher RAM frequency.
Which means your current vCore might not be sufficient if you don't stress the RAM at the same time.
Hence, I'd recommend to also stress the IMC preferably at 95%+ RAM usage. biggrin.gif
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Did you mean vdroop? Load voltage drops too much?
For Prime95, I noticed that I'd need to increase the vCore a bit to get it stable at higher RAM frequency.
Which means your current vCore might not be sufficient if you don't stress the RAM at the same time.
Hence, I'd recommend to also stress the IMC preferably at 95%+ RAM usage.  biggrin.gif
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bios set 1.35,1.36 its show 1.344 at cpuz
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Looks super fine for me, nothing to worry about.
Bad vdroops are 0.06-0.09v etc.
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Is it ok if i use below 1.45v daily use i3 8350k temp below 90
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QUOTE(keyo @ Nov 5 2017, 08:26 AM)
Is it ok if i use below 1.45v daily use i3 8350k temp below 90
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There's no safe voltage when it comes to OC but I'd recommend to stay below 1.5V under air/water and under 100C.

Intel recommended max vCore is 1.52v:
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rclxms.gif managed 4.6ghz on my 8700k without touching the voltage, did i win the lottery? undelided @ ~78c
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rclxms.gif managed 4.6ghz on my 8700k without touching the voltage, did i win the lottery? undelided @ ~78c
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noob overclocker here. i followed these steps on an Aorus Ultra Gaming + 8700k but it went into boot loop on windows logo with the circly things
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noob overclocker here. i followed these steps on an Aorus Ultra Gaming + 8700k but it went into boot loop on windows logo with the circly things
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Pump voltage not all proc same vid (stock voltage )
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QUOTE(azcromex @ Nov 16 2017, 01:25 PM)
noob overclocker here. i followed these steps on an Aorus Ultra Gaming + 8700k but it went into boot loop on windows logo with the circly things
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Can 5.2GHz vcore go lower?

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Hi bro,
Assuming that you've tried lower voltage, I'm afraid there's no other way to get any lower vCore.
Plus, your mobo is the Hero so should be among the best Z370 boards in terms of power delivery, voltage control etc.
Every CPU comes with its unique VID (stock voltage), so it may vary from one chip to another.
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Hi bro,
Assuming that you've tried lower voltage, I'm afraid there's no other way to get any lower vCore.
Plus, your mobo is the Hero so should be among the best Z370 boards in terms of power delivery, voltage control etc.
Every CPU comes with its unique VID (stock voltage), so it may vary from one chip to another.
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Maybe you can tell me how to OC properly? Sometimes I see just a single setting can decide how low the vcore can go or how stable the system is. You are using Maximus X Apex & Maximus X Hero, I would be thankful if you can share your BIOS settings.

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QUOTE(BroD @ Nov 22 2017, 02:04 AM)
Maybe you can tell me how to OC properly? Sometimes I see just a single setting can decide how low the vcore can go or how stable the system is. You are using Maximus X Apex & Maximus X Hero, I would be thankful if you can share your BIOS settings.
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Wait, tonight I will share my stable 5GHz OC BIOS settings.
Now I am testing an entry-level board. smile.gif
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QUOTE(BroD @ Nov 22 2017, 02:04 AM)
Maybe you can tell me how to OC properly? Sometimes I see just a single setting can decide how low the vcore can go or how stable the system is. You are using Maximus X Apex & Maximus X Hero, I would be thankful if you can share your BIOS settings.
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Here's my 5GHz OC settings for the following setup:

Attached File  M10H_setting.txt ( 72.86k ) Number of downloads: 35


Summarizing up those important settings:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


My PC specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 22 2017, 07:23 PM)
Here's my 5GHz OC settings for the following setup:

Attached File  M10H_setting.txt ( 72.86k ) Number of downloads: 35


Summarizing up those important settings:
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My PC specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K
MB: ASUS ROG Maximus X HERO (BIOS 0505)
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3200 CL16 2x8GB
Cooling: Custom WC
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Wow..thank you so much. That's a long list lol. Why are you still using BIOS 0505 instead of the latest BIOS 0802? Is it better?

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QUOTE(BroD @ Nov 23 2017, 12:31 AM)
Wow..thank you so much. That's a long list lol. Why are you still using BIOS 0505 instead of the latest BIOS 0802? Is it better?

These are the settings that I used last month with the older 0505 BIOS before testing other motherboards.
Now testing the 0802, should be better or worse biggrin.gif
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Here are my stable i7-8700K @ 5.0GHz/4.5GHz OC results on two Z370 boards with Prime95 v29.3 running for 3 hours.

ROG Maximus X HERO: 1.280v (Same as APEX)
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You can see that the TUF required 0.048v more voltage than the HERO.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 23 2017, 10:20 PM)
Here are my stable i7-8700K @ 5.0GHz/4.5GHz OC results on two Z370 boards with Prime95 v29.3 running for 3 hours.

ROG Maximus X HERO: 1.280v (Same as APEX)
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You can see that the TUF required 0.048v more voltage than the HERO.
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Hi bro...so, what do you think about bios 0802? Are you running the same cpu on both prime and hero? Were you using small fft test for both? By the way, the latest version of prime95 is 29.4.5

Edit: cpu package power on mine is almost 200w running prime95..is it normal?

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QUOTE(BroD @ Nov 23 2017, 10:36 PM)
Hi bro...so, what do you think about bios 0802? Are you running the same cpu on both prime and hero? Were you using small fft test for both? By the way, the latest version of prime95 is 29.4.5

Edit: cpu package power on mine is almost 200w running prime95..is it normal?
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I just tested the new 0802 BIOS, so need more time to really comment about it.
But initial testing found that it is better than the old 0505 BIOS, especially in terms of RAM OC.
New BIOS allows me to POST easy, run stably at DDR4-4200. Need to test more on this though.
With the 0505 BIOS, I had issue getting my B-die kit to POST at DDR4-4133+.
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Yes, exactly the same 8700K CPU was used on both TUF and HERO.
For Prime95, I always used Custom Blend 1344K min/max 14500MB RAM to stress both CPU+IMC/RAM altogether.
Prime95 is very stressful that your CPU power package could hit as much as 180-200W when highly overclocked/overvolted.
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DDR4-4200 CL18 @ 1.35v passed HCl ~500%...
(excuse me for the loose timing, need to go higher then only optimize it)
now testing CL17 @ 1.40v

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 25 2017, 10:05 AM)
DDR4-4200 CL18 @ 1.35v passed HCl ~500%...
(excuse me for the loose timing, need to go higher then only optimize it)
now testing CL17 @ 1.40v

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bro congrats on 4200mhz! also, isnt 1.40v too much for ram?
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QUOTE(crumpetss @ Nov 25 2017, 11:53 AM)
bro congrats on 4200mhz! also, isnt 1.40v too much for ram?
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1.40v should be fine, not gonna harm the RAM or the CPU at all. Ehh, my RAM kit is rated at 1.40v. biggrin.gif

Moreover, there are some 1.50/1.45v-rated DDR4 memory modules in the market:
1.50v: http://www.ocdrift.com/g-skill-announces-n...t-z-memory-kit/
1.45v: http://www.ocdrift.com/g-skill-releases-ul...4-4266mhz-kits/

Btw, I managed to run quick HCL test on DDR4-4200 CL17. Should have no problem for 24/7 stability.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 25 2017, 09:22 PM)
1.40v should be fine, not gonna harm the RAM or the CPU at all. Ehh, my RAM kit is rated at 1.40v.  biggrin.gif

Moreover, there are some 1.50/1.45v-rated DDR4 memory modules in the market:
1.50v: http://www.ocdrift.com/g-skill-announces-n...t-z-memory-kit/
1.45v: http://www.ocdrift.com/g-skill-releases-ul...4-4266mhz-kits/

Btw, I managed to run quick HCL test on DDR4-4200 CL17. Should have no problem for 24/7 stability.

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Wow...4200MHZ... I dont know how to oc RAM at all...I see you are using memtestpro..if Im using basic version of memtest, how to make it run like memtestpro?

I have been using your bios settings and it is stable but I also want to save power when not using my computer. So I try adaptive voltage mode but I dont know a thing about it. Question, if my OC is stable at manual mode @1.25v, how to set it to stay at 1.25v +0.01v @adaptive mode and stay stable when I run stress test and also decreasing vcore automatically when not using my computer?
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Wow...4200MHZ... I dont know how to oc RAM at all...I see you are using memtestpro..if Im using basic version of memtest, how to make it run like memtestpro?

I have been using your bios settings and it is stable but I also want to save power when not using my computer. So I try adaptive voltage mode but I dont know a thing about it. Question, if my OC is stable at manual mode @1.25v, how to set it to stay at 1.25v +0.01v @adaptive mode and stay stable when I run stress test and also decreasing vcore automatically when not using my computer?
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Everything comes at a price bro. For 4000+, you will need to get RAM kit that is based on Samsung's B-die ICs, those DDR4-3600+ rating kits.
Don't use Memtest86, as it is not relevant anymore for today's application and won't tell you anything conclusive at all.
I am using a paid HCI Memtest that is used by most RAM manufactures in the market.
Adaptive mode seems broken on the HERO, that's why manual voltage mode is still my favourite method.

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To use Adaptive mode, you just need to enter the full load voltage that you desired in the Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage box.
In your case, just insert 1.25v into the box. The target full-load voltage is shown in the Total Adaptive Mode CPU Core Voltage.




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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 25 2017, 10:40 PM)
Everything comes at a price bro. For 4000+, you will need to get RAM kit that is based on Samsung's B-die ICs, those DDR4-3600+ rating kits.
Don't use Memtest86, as it is not relevant anymore for today's application and won't tell you anything conclusive at all.
I am using a paid HCI Memtest that is used by most RAM manufactures in the market.
Adaptive mode seems broken on the HERO, that's why manual voltage mode is still my favourite method.

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To use Adaptive mode, you just need to enter the full load voltage that you desired in the Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage box.
In your case, just insert 1.25v into the box. The target full-load voltage is shown in the Total Adaptive Mode CPU Core Voltage.
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I did that and the voltage was shooting up to 1.35v when running stress test.
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QUOTE(BroD @ Nov 25 2017, 10:52 PM)
I did that and the voltage was shooting up to 1.35v when running stress test.
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Same here, I think it's broken (not working).
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any overclockers here has delidded your CPU ???

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any overclockers here has delidded your CPU ???
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Me not yet biggrin.gif

Btw guys, 4 sticks of 8GB B-die memories running at DDR4-4266 CL17 @ 1.45v.
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Me not yet biggrin.gif

Btw guys, 4 sticks of 8GB B-die memories running at DDR4-4266 CL17 @ 1.45v.
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how??? 8700k undelid 5ghz? no cooling problems meh
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Me not yet biggrin.gif

Btw guys, 4 sticks of 8GB B-die memories running at DDR4-4266 CL17 @ 1.45v.
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how??? 8700k undelid 5ghz? no cooling problems meh
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your running at 100c load?
man i nd to buy the tool for delidding
ramz OC will see any difference between 3200mhz and 4000mhz?
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QUOTE(crumpetss @ Nov 26 2017, 11:26 PM)
how??? 8700k undelid 5ghz? no cooling problems meh
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your running at 100c load?
man i nd to buy the tool for delidding
ramz OC will see any difference between 3200mhz and 4000mhz?
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Check few posts back, I did a few 3-hour Prime95 v29.3 (with AVX/FMA3) runs with CPU temps lower than 80c without delidding.
My 8700K is a really rare chip with a very low stock VID.

DDR4-3200 vs 4000+, I'd say very little to no difference but anything lower than DDR4-3200 will bottleneck the system.
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CL17/18 is not easy to stabilize, so going back to XMP at
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hi guys,

those of you using Asus board to OC your 8700k, what LLC level are you guys using? things have changed alot since I last OC'ed like 7-8 years ago and I'm learning back OC for these new processors.

whats the typical voltage to expect for pushing 5ghz? thanks in advance guys.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Nov 30 2017, 10:18 PM)
hi guys,

those of you using Asus board to OC your 8700k, what LLC level are you guys using? things have changed alot since I last OC'ed like 7-8 years ago and I'm learning back OC for these new processors.

whats the typical voltage to expect for pushing 5ghz? thanks in advance guys.
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Each motherboard's power design is different.
ASUS and other brands have LLC level 1 as the lowest and up to 8 for the highest.
ASRock has it backwards where level 1 is highest and level 5 is the lowest.

On my ROG boards, I chose level 5 because I find it gives the lowest vdroop.
Check few pages back for my 5GHz CPU OC.
LLC5 used, BIOS set 1.30v, load vCore 1.280v Prime95 AVX 0 offset stable.

Typical voltage is around 1.2-1.4v depending on your VID and board of course.

Check out 8700K OC database from Germany: https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f139/...ad-1178256.html
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 30 2017, 10:59 PM)
Each motherboard's power design is different.
ASUS and other brands have LLC level 1 as the lowest and up to 8 for the highest.
ASRock has it backwards where level 1 is highest and level 5 is the lowest.

On my ROG boards, I chose level 5 because I find it gives the lowest vdroop.
Check few pages back for my 5GHz CPU OC.
LLC5 used, BIOS set 1.30v, load vCore 1.280v Prime95 AVX 0 offset stable.

Typical voltage is around 1.2-1.4v depending on your VID and board of course.

Check out 8700K OC database from Germany: https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f139/...ad-1178256.html
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thanks dude, i'll give it a try, i've tried level 2-3 previously @ 1.3vcore but still failing p95 as soon as test starts.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Dec 1 2017, 01:52 AM)
thanks dude, i'll give it a try, i've tried level 2-3 previously @ 1.3vcore but still failing p95 as soon as test starts.
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Better check your chip's vid first before pumping any voltage.
For record, my 8700K comes with 1.088v vid.
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5 hours+ of HCl 500% 😁
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 1 2017, 06:48 AM)
Better check your chip's vid first before pumping any voltage.
For record, my 8700K comes with 1.088v vid.
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do you mean the cpu voltage when it's @ 3.7ghz like the one in the BIOS or when you boot up to windows and it's at 4.7ghz due to the asus MCE?

for BIOS, mine's showing 1.040v while in windows when the CPU gets stressed to 4.7ghz it shows 1.332-1.337

Everything was set to Auto on BIOS btw for the situation above,
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do you mean the cpu voltage when it's @ 3.7ghz like the one in the BIOS or when you boot up to windows and it's at 4.7ghz due to the asus MCE?

for BIOS, mine's showing 1.040v while in windows when the CPU gets stressed to 4.7ghz it shows 1.332-1.337

Everything was set to Auto on BIOS btw for the situation above,
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VID can be observed when your BIOS setting is set to default.
Hence, in your case your VID is 1.040v which is quite low even lower than my 8700K chip.
Hmm not sure why you need so much vcore but it's likely that the Strix mobo has a weak VRM power.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 1 2017, 05:00 PM)
VID can be observed when your BIOS setting is set to default.
Hence, in your case your VID is 1.040v which is quite low even lower than my 8700K chip.
Hmm not sure why you need so much vcore but it's likely that the Strix mobo has a weak VRM power.
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I've tried pushing it @ 4.7ghz with 1.32v vcore and LLC lv5 and was able to run prime95 without having any errors, but after a minute or so my speed gets throttled even though my temps are not above 80c.

I get the feeling the VRM is overheating thus throttling is occuring due to that.

do you touch any other VRM settings besides the LLC?
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I've tried pushing it @ 4.7ghz with 1.32v vcore and LLC lv5 and was able to run prime95 without having any errors, but after a minute or so my speed gets throttled even though my temps are not above 80c.

I get the feeling the VRM is overheating thus throttling is occuring due to that.

do you touch any other VRM settings besides the LLC?
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I killed one of my RAM stick (SK Hynix M-Die) after I hammered it with 2 hours of Prime95 v29.4.5 @max RAM usage, 1344K fft (All passed though) after being OC'ed to a modest 3466MHz with default timings and voltage (16-18-18-38,2T @1.35v). My Maximus X Hero showed Q Code 55 and 6E, now using only one stick. (Bad stick doesn't work with all 4 slots, good stick works with all 4 slots, tested 1 by 1)

Question;
1. Is there a possibility that my CPU memory controller is damaged too?
2. Could Prime95 kills a memory or is the stick already a bad stick to begin with?
3. What is the possibility that it could kill the motherboard or the CPU too?
4. Is memory OC'ing a bad thing? I didn't even touch the voltage, timings, VCCIO etc.

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I killed one of my RAM stick (SK Hynix M-Die) after I hammered it with 2 hours of Prime95 v29.4.5 @max RAM usage, 1344K fft (All passed though) after being OC'ed to a modest 3466MHz with default timings and voltage (16-18-18-38,2T @1.35v). My Maximus X Hero showed Q Code 55 and 6E, now using only one stick. (Bad stick doesn't work with all 4 slots, good stick works with all 4 slots, tested 1 by 1)

Question;
1. Is there a possibility that my CPU memory controller is damaged too?
2. Could Prime95 kills a memory or is the stick already a bad stick to begin with?
3. What is the possibility that it could kill the motherboard or the CPU too?
4. Is memory OC'ing a bad thing? I didn't even touch the voltage, timings, VCCIO etc.
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The bolded part sounds like a defective RAM module. It should have a lifetime warranty, so send it for RMA.

1) Most likely not, you're not pumping extremely high VCCSA like 1.4v+ etc.
2) Prime95 will not kill your RAM, unless you pump extremely high RAM voltage like 2.0v+ etc for long term without a proper cooling. The dead RAM module could be an already weak stick that suffered from ESD etc.
3) Prime95 will not kill your motherboard and CPU because the board itself has OC protection etc to prevent it from getting fried. When your CPU reaches 100C high, thermal throttling kicks in and your OC will be reduced at lower frequency to reduce the temperature. But chip degradation over time is undeniable, so best is to keep it as cool as possible.
4) Answered in number 2.


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The bolded part sounds like a defective RAM module. It should have a lifetime warranty, so send it for RMA.

1) Most likely not, you're not pumping extremely high VCCSA like 1.4v+ etc.
2) Prime95 will not kill your RAM, unless you pump extremely high RAM voltage like 2.0v+ etc for long term without a proper cooling. The dead RAM module could be an already weak stick that suffered from ESD etc.
3) Prime95 will not kill your motherboard and CPU because the board itself has OC protection etc to prevent it from getting fried. When your CPU reaches 100C high, thermal throttling kicks in and your OC will be reduced at lower frequency to reduce the temperature. But chip degradation over time is undeniable, so best is to keep it as cool as possible.
4) Answered in number 2.
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Thank you for the clarification. Now I don't have to worry about my CPU and motherboard. Yes, it's flying back to Taiwan soon lol



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CPU Load-line Calibration [Level 5]
CPU Current Capability [140%]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Auto]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
Active Frequency Mode [Disabled]
CPU Power Duty Control [Extreme]
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Thanks for the input, I've tried it and I'm still failing prime95 though I could definitely boot to windows without worrying of crashing halfway now.

considering I'm only on a Noctua NH-D15S and I've not delidded my CPU, I guess this is the limit for now sad.gif
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Thank you for the clarification. Now I don't have to worry about my CPU and motherboard. Yes, it's flying back to Taiwan soon lol
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Thanks for the input, I've tried it and I'm still failing prime95 though I could definitely boot to windows  without worrying of crashing halfway now.
considering I'm only on a Noctua NH-D15S and I've not delidded my CPU, I guess this is the limit for now sad.gif
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hmm I guess you will need a better mobo to confirm as I saw your VID is quite low so couldn't be your chip is worse than mine. hmm.gif
Btw, if you're not doing video encoding stuffs you can use Prime95 v26.6 that doesn't have AVX/FMA3 instruction.
It is less stressful but enough for your daily work. It also requires less voltage, so you should get lower CPU temperatures.
The legendary Noctua NH-D15S is a great air cooler that it performs even better than some AIO coolers in the market.
I also have the NH-D15S and the vanilla D15, maybe be will give it a try when I am free. brows.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 2 2017, 10:15 AM)
hmm I guess you will need a better mobo to confirm as I saw your VID is quite low so couldn't be your chip is worse than mine.  hmm.gif
Btw, if you're not doing video encoding stuffs you can use Prime95 v26.6 that doesn't have AVX/FMA3 instruction.
It is less stressful but enough for your daily work. It also requires less voltage, so you should get lower CPU temperatures.
The legendary Noctua NH-D15S is a great air cooler that it performs even better than some AIO coolers in the market.
I also have the NH-D15S and the vanilla D15, maybe be will give it a try when I am free.  brows.gif
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heh the default settings is also more than enough for what im doing which is just gaming, i've stopped video encoding for the time being. just thought i'd try to push this processor as far as I can while passing the prime95 stress test.

i'll try playing around with it again tonight to see if i can push it to 5.2ghz cpu-z validation able biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

thanks bro for the settings you gave, it really gave me more idea on what settings i could fiddle around to get more juice biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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heh the default settings is also more than enough for what im doing which is just gaming, i've stopped video encoding for the time being. just thought i'd try to push this processor as far as I can while passing the prime95 stress test.

i'll try playing around with it again tonight to see if i can push it to 5.2ghz cpu-z validation able biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

thanks bro for the settings you gave, it really gave me more idea on what settings i could fiddle around to get more juice biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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do you mean the cpu voltage when it's @ 3.7ghz like the one in the BIOS or when you boot up to windows and it's at 4.7ghz due to the asus MCE?

for BIOS, mine's showing 1.040v while in windows when the CPU gets stressed to 4.7ghz it shows 1.332-1.337

Everything was set to Auto on BIOS btw for the situation above,
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Dec 2 2017, 01:11 AM)
Thanks for the input, I've tried it and I'm still failing prime95 though I could definitely boot to windows  without worrying of crashing halfway now.

considering I'm only on a Noctua NH-D15S and I've not delidded my CPU, I guess this is the limit for now sad.gif
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hmm ok thats just the luck of the draw dude but generally most 8700k are at this voltage for 5ghz.. so ure not at the bad end.. Bad ones need 1.4-1.45v

from that 4.7ghz vid on auto.. with asus MCE.. thats ure 5ghz approximately... with AVX offset 2

so u can try 5ghz at 1.32-34 with avx offset 2 load line 5/6

owikh84 cpu will do it at 1.2-1.216v.... with MCE enable 4.7ghz.. on default.

with strix based on owi testing on TUF... expect increase of voltage around 0.03-0.04v.. ( might not be the case with offset -2)


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Dec 2 2017, 09:38 PM)
hmm ok thats just the luck of the draw dude but generally most 8700k are at this voltage for 5ghz.. so ure not at the bad end.. Bad ones need 1.4-1.45v

from that 4.7ghz vid on auto.. with asus MCE.. thats ure 5ghz approximately... with AVX offset 2

so u can try 5ghz at 1.32-34 with avx offset 2 load line 5/6

owikh84 cpu will do it at 1.2-1.216v.... with MCE enable 4.7ghz.. on default.

with strix based on owi testing on TUF... expect increase of voltage around 0.03-0.04v.. ( might not be the case with offset -2)
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I tried the settings you suggested above and was able to boot 5ghz @ 1.32v, managed to pull a 5.2ghz @ 1.36v with AVX offset 2 but my windows kinda bugged out with chrome not properly loading and I can't even shut down the PC properly due to the OS not being responsive.

will fickle around to try to get it cinebench stable for now biggrin.gif
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I tried the settings you suggested above and was able to boot 5ghz @ 1.32v, managed to pull a 5.2ghz @ 1.36v with AVX offset 2 but my windows kinda bugged out with chrome not properly loading and I can't even shut down the PC properly due to the OS not being responsive.

will fickle around to try to get it cinebench stable for now biggrin.gif
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after 5ghz u need to relax ure ram and theres a need to adjust vccio etc..
i would redo a hci every multiplier above 5 before attempting any cpu stress benchmarks

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Dec 3 2017, 06:13 AM)
after 5ghz u need to relax ure ram and theres a need to adjust vccio etc..
i would redo a hci every multiplier above 5 before attempting any cpu stress benchmarks
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I've set my RAM to auto during the OC as I don't want it to cause some instability issues, but at 5.2ghz it's pretty much fragile af
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I've set my RAM to auto during the OC as I don't want it to cause some instability issues, but at 5.2ghz it's pretty much fragile af
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auto wont do.
asus default on z370 is actually tight.

here is the kicker. on p95 i find alot of bsod errors 5.1ghz above are ram/imc related even on fft12.

5.1ghz relaxing rtl/iol passes fft12.
also passes hci.
but then i get some pcie issues ( tested on long stream)
games tested is deus Ex and now my new fav is fc4 with all gameworks enable.
did some tweaks in tweakers paradise and upped dmi/cpu standby voltage. m

5.2ghz again another imc related issue. tweaked some third timings,

5.3ghz was hci/priming with rams at 4200c18@1.3v.. thsts when i killed one of the cpu cores. lol.

pll bandwidth helps but becareful n dont use 6-8 as whats written on the description. default intel spec is 1.2v but asus runs it at 0=0.6v

hope this insight helps. i just backed down to 5ghz@1.2v offset 2 and called it a day. need months to validate above 5ghz since its causing other issues via dmi.

same issues i had with my 7820x when i oced 4.7gh fod ram 4kc17@1.3v. rb/p95/hci doesnt catch other issues as much as actual long session gaming.
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Officially jump on the bandwagon...

ROG Maximus X Apex and TUF Z370-Pro Gaming are here.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Dec 4 2017, 10:06 AM)
auto wont do.
asus default on z370 is actually tight.

here is the kicker. on p95 i find alot of bsod errors 5.1ghz above are ram/imc related even on fft12.

5.1ghz relaxing rtl/iol passes fft12.
also passes hci.
but then i get some pcie issues ( tested on long stream)
games tested is deus Ex and now my new fav is fc4 with all gameworks enable.
did some tweaks in tweakers paradise and upped dmi/cpu standby voltage. m

5.2ghz again another imc related issue. tweaked some third timings,

5.3ghz was hci/priming with rams at 4200c18@1.3v.. thsts when i killed one of the cpu cores. lol.

pll bandwidth helps but becareful n dont use 6-8 as whats written on the description. default intel spec is 1.2v but asus runs it at 0=0.6v

hope this insight helps. i just backed down to 5ghz@1.2v offset 2 and called it a day. need months to validate above 5ghz since its causing other issues via dmi.

same issues i had with my 7820x when i oced 4.7gh fod ram 4kc17@1.3v. rb/p95/hci doesnt catch other issues as much as actual long session gaming.
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Is it retail unit,
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tried adjusting the vcore to offset mode with -0.08v, and for some reason i'm p95 stable @ 4.7ghz with vcore reading around 1.184v-1.216v but when doing it manually i get error'ed on p95
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why when i test prime 95 29.3 its drop to 4.6ghz if prime 95 26.6 its ok 5ghz
avx i put auto tq
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QUOTE(keyo @ Dec 16 2017, 09:47 PM)
why when i test prime 95 29.3 its drop to 4.6ghz if prime 95 26.6 its ok 5ghz
avx i put auto tq
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hmm... couldn't be that ASRock set -4 as the AVX offset by default.
Inside Windows, you can check it through software like XTU or probably ASRock's own utility.
Inside UEFI, you can manually set it to 0 in case you want to disable this function.





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hmm... couldn't be that ASRock set -4 as the AVX offset by default.
Inside Windows, you can check it through software like XTU or probably ASRock's own utility.
Inside UEFI, you can manually set it to 0 in case you want to disable this function.
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If uefi avx setting i put 0 its became auto
Now i avx 1
Multiple 51 when prime its become 50

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vid 1.104v
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If uefi avx setting i put 0 its became auto
Now i avx 1
Multiple 51 when prime its become 50
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No zero offset option is odd. Auto being -4 offset is more weird confused.gif
It sounds like the AVX offset is not working properly, for me it's a big bug LOL.
Too bad I don't have any ASRock Z370 board with me, maybe you should contact ASRock for clarification haha.
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one noob Q guys....

I'm on 8700k, Z370 gaming k6, crucial ballistix sport ddr4 ram. for cooling, I'm using D15s.

I just play around with the OC tune settings which came with the mobo. I've selected the highest to 5GHz.

with the preset, the mobo set the cpu V to 1.4, and I play around by bringing it down to 1.2v.

at first I received BSOD, return to BIOS and change the value slowly upward, until I get 1.248v with no BSOD.

for ram, I didn't change any values. but it runs on 2400MHz.

for temperature, when stress test it hovers around 80c - 93c.

if I use CPU-z "stress cpu" button, it plays around 80c on load.

on normal usage, idle on 33c-37c and 65c on load.

am I doing anything wrong or I'm exposing the chip to danger?

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one noob Q guys....

I'm on 8700k, Z370 gaming k6, crucial ballistix sport ddr4 ram. for cooling, I'm using D15s.

I just play around with the OC tune settings which came with the mobo. I've selected the highest to 5GHz.

with the preset, the mobo set the cpu V to 1.4, and I play around by bringing it down to 1.2v.

at first I received BSOD, return to BIOS and change the value slowly upward, until I get 1.248v with no BSOD.

for ram, I didn't change any values. but it runs on 2400MHz.

for temperature, when stress test it hovers around 80c - 93c.

if I use CPU-z "stress cpu" button, it plays around 80c on load.

on normal usage, idle on 33c-37c and 65c on load.

am I doing anything wrong or I'm exposing the chip to danger?
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CPU-Z is not a suitable software to test stability of your OC, neither a good software for benchmarking purpose.

For CPU overclocking, the most standard people would go is Prime95, but take note that it is way too much stressful that your cooling can actually handle the heat.

For me, a couple of hours (3 hours minimum) of Realbench or AIDA64 are more representative of real-world applications.
Between these two, Realbench is better since it stresses both CPU and GPU at the same time.

Anything lower than 100c would be safe. Moreover you're using an air cooler, which is less worrying than custom watercooling with PETG tubing etc. Your normal usage at 65c max looks fine though, just need to retest with a proper stress tool as I mentioned earlier to confirm stability.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 17 2017, 11:09 PM)
CPU-Z is not a suitable software to test stability of your OC, neither a good software for benchmarking purpose.

For CPU overclocking, the most standard people would go is Prime95, but take note that it is way too much stressful that your cooling can actually handle the heat.

For me, a couple of hours (3 hours minimum) of Realbench or AIDA64 are more representative of real-world applications.
Between these two, Realbench is better since it stresses both CPU and GPU at the same time.

Anything lower than 100c would be safe. Moreover you're using an air cooler, which is less worrying than custom watercooling with PETG tubing etc. Your normal usage at 65c max looks fine though, just need to  retest with a proper stress tool as I mentioned earlier to confirm stability.
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hi owikh,

between prime95 v26.6 vs latest ones, which one would you rather base your overclock settings on?

the temp differences between these 2 versions are quite far apart and not to mention via voltage offset mode one is underload at 1.18v with vdroop and another is at 1.2v with vdroop so i figured i could go lower voltage with the prime95 v26.6 stress test but i'd fail the v29.4 stress test if i were to use the same offset
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hi owikh,

between prime95 v26.6 vs latest ones, which one would you rather base your overclock settings on?

the temp differences between these 2 versions are quite far apart and not to mention via voltage offset mode one is underload at 1.18v with vdroop and another is at 1.2v with vdroop so i figured i could go lower voltage with the prime95 v26.6 stress test but i'd fail the v29.4 stress test if i were to use the same offset
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29.4 have avx ft3 more stressful need more voltage
Mine 26.6 need 1.33v 29.3 need 1.38v
For gaming enough with 26.6 if video editing or else nedd 29.3

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Dec 17 2017, 11:42 PM)
hi owikh,

between prime95 v26.6 vs latest ones, which one would you rather base your overclock settings on?

the temp differences between these 2 versions are quite far apart and not to mention via voltage offset mode one is underload at 1.18v with vdroop and another is at 1.2v with vdroop so i figured i could go lower voltage with the prime95 v26.6 stress test but i'd fail the v29.4 stress test if i were to use the same offset
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Previously, I said go for the none AVX-based Prime95 v26.6 if you're not doing video encoding stuffs but it seems like I was wrong.
Nowadays more and more software including games are using AVX instructions. It is suspected that NVIDIA driver also has AVX instructions in it.
Hence, Prime95 v29.4 is definitely a better choice if you don't want to see the CPU speed fluctuating due to AVX offset.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 17 2017, 11:09 PM)
CPU-Z is not a suitable software to test stability of your OC, neither a good software for benchmarking purpose.

For CPU overclocking, the most standard people would go is Prime95, but take note that it is way too much stressful that your cooling can actually handle the heat.

For me, a couple of hours (3 hours minimum) of Realbench or AIDA64 are more representative of real-world applications.
Between these two, Realbench is better since it stresses both CPU and GPU at the same time.

Anything lower than 100c would be safe. Moreover you're using an air cooler, which is less worrying than custom watercooling with PETG tubing etc. Your normal usage at 65c max looks fine though, just need to  retest with a proper stress tool as I mentioned earlier to confirm stability.
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do u delid ur proc?

Btw, for the cpu V, why need until 1.3/1.35v ?

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Dec 18 2017, 09:06 PM)
do u delid ur proc?

Btw, for the cpu V, why need until 1.3/1.35v ?
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No delid, my chip is doing 5GHz @ 1.28v under custom wc with max temps never go above 90c.
Every chip was born unique, meaning each CPU comes with its own stock voltage (VID).
If you're lucky enough you will find a good chip, while some others might get bad chips with high VID.
It's all about draw of luck, silicon lottery.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 18 2017, 06:50 AM)
Previously, I said go for the none AVX-based Prime95 v26.6 if you're not doing video encoding stuffs but it seems like I was wrong.
Nowadays more and more software including games are using AVX instructions. It is suspected that NVIDIA driver also has AVX instructions in it.
Hence, Prime95 v29.4 is definitely a better choice if you don't want to see the CPU speed fluctuating due to AVX offset.
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thanks bro for the input, guess i'll leave it at 0.08v voltage offset for now
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 18 2017, 09:50 PM)
No delid, my chip is doing 5GHz @ 1.28v under custom wc with max temps never go above 90c.
Every chip was born unique, meaning each CPU comes with its own stock voltage (VID).
If you're lucky enough you will find a good chip, while some others might get bad chips with high VID.
It's all about draw of luck, silicon lottery.
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when I open the intel overclocking utility, the max frequency only show 4.99GHz, never went to 5GHz. in youtube video, I see people getting 5.01GHz, what I'm doing wrong?

the youtuber using the same bios and settings as me. he didn't change any values.

and, RAM only run on its specification? the memory I use stated 2400MHz, when I try change it to the higher number like 3000MHz, it wont boot.

so, when back to bios and change it back to the default values.

QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Dec 18 2017, 10:30 PM)
thanks bro for the input, guess i'll leave it at 0.08v voltage offset for now
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hi, how you install/use your thermal paste with NHD15s ?

pea style or spread style?

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Dec 19 2017, 09:52 AM)
when I open the intel overclocking utility, the max frequency only show 4.99GHz, never went to 5GHz. in youtube video, I see people getting 5.01GHz, what I'm doing wrong?

the youtuber using the same bios and settings as me. he didn't change any values.

and, RAM only run on its specification? the memory I use stated 2400MHz, when I try change it to the higher number like 3000MHz, it wont boot.

so, when back to bios and change it back to the default values.

hi, how you install/use your thermal paste with NHD15s ?

pea style or spread style?
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i used pea style. however based on my previous experience it doesnt really matter which style you use as long got enough tongue.gif

the 4.99ghz fluctuating to 5.01ghz is quite common I guess btw, that's just how core clock speed fluctuates. RAMs usually run at their stated specs, so maybe in your case it's 2400MHz @ 1.2v, making it go 3000MHz is basically overclocking.
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How about the CPU frequency showed in CPU-Z?
I would disable BCLK spread spectrum in UEFI to prevent/minimize the BCLK fluctuations
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i used pea style. however based on my previous experience it doesnt really matter which style you use as long got enough tongue.gif

the 4.99ghz fluctuating to 5.01ghz is quite common I guess btw, that's just how core clock speed fluctuates. RAMs usually run at their stated specs, so maybe in your case it's 2400MHz @ 1.2v, making it go 3000MHz is basically overclocking.
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I see, thanks bro. yes, the ram spec is 2.4ghz @ 1.2v.


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How about the CPU frequency showed in CPU-Z?
I would disable BCLK spread spectrum in UEFI to prevent/minimize the BCLK fluctuations
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ok already turn off the BCLK Spread Spectrum.

the difference is, I can get 5g or 4995mhz most of the time

in cpu-z, it shows 5000.0 MHz 50x100mhz

sometimes 5001,5002.

in AIDA it shows 5.00Ghz

only in intel extreme utility it barely go above 4995mhz. maybe it just a rounding problem, nothing serious.

edit: what is your proc cache value? 43 or 48, is it ok?

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Dec 19 2017, 01:05 PM)
I see, thanks bro. yes, the ram spec is 2.4ghz @ 1.2v.
ok already turn off the BCLK Spread Spectrum.

the difference is, I can get 5g or 4995mhz most of the time

in cpu-z, it shows 5000.0 MHz 50x100mhz

sometimes 5001,5002.

in AIDA it shows 5.00Ghz

only in intel extreme utility it barely go above 4995mhz. maybe it just a rounding problem, nothing serious.

edit: what is your proc cache value? 43 or 48, is it ok?
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Should be fine as CPU-Z is showing 5.0GHz.
Just ignore that value in XTU, sometimes I will see 4.99GHz as well. The benchmark score is more important, but expect to get lower score with slower RAM speed like DDR-2400.
My cache is slightly overclocked to 4.5GHz from 4.4GHz.


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Hey guys, new here in overclock. Just got one question.

Does cpu OC 4.5ghz i7 6700k can downclock to stock clock 4.17ghz on its own? Already check that in bios and stated the multiplier is 42.


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Hey guys, new here in overclock. Just got one question.

Does cpu OC 4.5ghz i7 6700k can downclock to stock clock 4.17ghz on its own? Already check that in bios and stated the multiplier is 42.


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QUOTE(scyter @ Dec 19 2017, 08:33 PM)
Hey guys, new here in overclock. Just got one question.

Does cpu OC 4.5ghz i7 6700k can downclock to stock clock 4.17ghz on its own? Already check that in bios and stated the multiplier is 42.
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Is it thermal throttling?
What are your temps idle and under load at 4.5GHz?
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@owikh84 will you be getting the Maximus X Formula as it seems available in MY already? biggrin.gif

Wonder if it will be able to give you the same clocks with lower voltages hmm.gif

Wanted to get Maximus X Code bus seems like wont be available in MY sad.gif
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QUOTE(arslow @ Dec 25 2017, 06:19 PM)
@owikh84 will you be getting the Maximus X Formula as it seems available in MY already? biggrin.gif

Wonder if it will be able to give you the same clocks with lower voltages hmm.gif

Wanted to get Maximus X Code bus seems like wont be available in MY sad.gif
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Hi bro, due to time constraints I've rejected ASUS MY's offer for reviewing the Formula few weeks ago, perhaps later when I become available again. biggrin.gif
All of the ROG series mobos have 10-phase power delivery design, so they should be able to give you the same CPU OC and voltage.
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Hi bro, due to time constraints I've rejected ASUS MY's offer for reviewing the Formula few weeks ago, perhaps later when I become available again.  biggrin.gif
All of the ROG series mobos have 10-phase power delivery design, so they should be able to give you the same CPU OC and voltage.
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Oh i see...kinda interested to get it review tho haha

Actually i also wanted the nice looking armor on code, without going all put for a formula

I gotta feeling if i go for formula i will want custom water cooling also later sweat.gif

One thing will lead to another lol
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Hi guys. I'm new to overclocking. I have overclock my i7 8700k with noctua nh d15 dual fan setup. I'm able to get stable at 4.8ghz at 1.26v in prime95 for 2 hrs. But the temperature is just spiking crazily from 70 to 85. Even in cpu intense game like battlefield 1 & assassin creed origin, temp are also fluctuating from 68 to 84. Is this even normal? Do i really need Aio to run at that kind of voltage?
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QUOTE(arslow @ Dec 26 2017, 01:27 PM)
Oh i see...kinda interested to get it review tho haha

Actually i also wanted the nice looking armor on code, without going all put for a formula

I gotta feeling if i go for formula i will want custom water cooling also later sweat.gif

One thing will lead to another lol
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Not sure why ASUS MY doesn't bring in the Code this time. It's a good board for those who want to have the appearance of the Formula but don't plan to go for custom loop and don't want to pay extra for the EK hybrid VRM heatsink/wb.

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Hi guys. I'm new to overclocking. I have overclock my i7 8700k with noctua nh d15 dual fan setup. I'm able to get stable at 4.8ghz at 1.26v in prime95 for 2 hrs. But the temperature is just spiking crazily from 70 to 85. Even in cpu intense game like battlefield 1 & assassin creed origin, temp are also fluctuating from 68 to 84. Is this even normal? Do i really need Aio to run at that kind of voltage?
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Hi bro, welcome to the OC club.
Your temps look normal at such CPU frequency, vCore and cooling.
D15 is the best air cooler that money can buy and it outperforms most AIO coolers. During my testing, with push pull fan configuration it performs on par with Cooler Master"s Nepton 240m AIO. Some higher-end AIO coolers especially those 360mm will win by 1-5 degrees Celsius.
Wait for Corsair H150i 360mm AIO cooler to be released on Dec 31. I read Vortez's leaked review (before it went down) they claimed that it beats the NZXT X62 by 14 degrees C. But be prepared to pay around RM 1k for the price lol.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 27 2017, 03:49 PM)
Not sure why ASUS MY doesn't bring in the Code this time. It's a good board for those who want to have the appearance of the Formula but don't plan to go for custom loop and don't want to pay extra for the EK hybrid VRM heatsink/wb.
Hi bro, welcome to the OC club.
Your temps look normal at such CPU frequency, vCore and cooling.
D15 is the best air cooler that money can buy and it outperforms most AIO coolers. During my testing, with push pull fan configuration it performs on par with Cooler Master"s Nepton 240m  AIO. Some higher-end AIO coolers especially those 360mm will win by 1-5 degrees Celsius.
Wait for Corsair H150i 360mm AIO cooler to be released on Dec 31. I read Vortez's leaked review (before it went down) they claimed that it beats the NZXT X62 by 14 degrees C. But be prepared to pay around RM 1k for the price lol.
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Thx bro! Ok at least i know the temp i get is within the normal temp at such vcore. Coz some ppl claim to be running 5ghz on air 24/7 make me have high hope of reaching there but it seems with our hot weather , i do not wan to run my cpu at low 90 Celsius everyday xD. Now i should decide either to finally venture into aio or delid.

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Thx bro! Ok at least i know the temp i get is within the normal temp at such vcore. Coz some ppl claim to be running 5ghz on air 24/7 make me have high hope of reaching there but it seems with our hot weather , i do not wan to run my cpu at low 90 Celsius everyday xD. Now i should decide either to finally venture into aio or delid.
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The vCore is depending on the CPU, quality of motherboard (MOSFETs, BIOS, etc), cooling (the lower the temperature, the lower the voltage required).
Good thing about air cooling compared to regular AIO is that the air from fans will blow onto the VRM heatsink, reducing the VRM temp. Some AIO coolers such as Cryorig A series are specially designed to have an additional fan to help chilling the VRM.
Of course, delid is the best way to go if you're aiming for higher OC at lower temp, if you don't mind losing the warranty.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Dec 27 2017, 12:50 PM)
Hi guys. I'm new to overclocking. I have overclock my i7 8700k with noctua nh d15 dual fan setup. I'm able to get stable at 4.8ghz at 1.26v in prime95 for 2 hrs. But the temperature is just spiking crazily from 70 to 85. Even in cpu intense game like battlefield 1 & assassin creed origin, temp are also fluctuating from 68 to 84. Is this even normal? Do i really need Aio to run at that kind of voltage?
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that is pretty low TBH, im getting 90c with a D15S and also dual fan setup, are you using the latest prime95?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Dec 28 2017, 05:58 PM)
that is pretty low TBH, im getting 90c with a D15S and also dual fan setup, are you using the latest prime95?
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I use prime95 v26.6. What I heard is the new version of prime95 have avx instruction. So I avoid using the new version since most games dont use avx instruction.
what overclock setting are you using now??


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avx instructions can generate quite a bit more heat. I believe that's why your temp is a lower than the other guy.

try one run with prime95 ver that supports avx and see, that'll show a sort of worst case scenario for the temps

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avx instructions can generate quite a bit more heat. I believe that's why your temp is a lower than the other guy.

try one run with prime95 ver that supports avx and see, that'll show a sort of worst case scenario for the temps
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Yeap. Thats when u need avx offset for the rescue. Btw anyone experiencing avx bug whereby even idle at desktop trigger the avx offset ?

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I use prime95 v26.6. What I heard is the new version of prime95 have avx instruction. So I avoid using the new version since most games dont use avx instruction.
what overclock setting are you using now??
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I only have offset of -0.08v to the core voltage @ 4.7ghz and everything else is auto. but yea I'm using the latest prime95 which has avx instruction so my temps are like 90c on core3/4, 1.200v under load.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Dec 30 2017, 10:39 AM)
I only have offset of -0.08v to the core voltage @ 4.7ghz and everything else is auto. but yea I'm using the latest prime95 which has avx instruction so my temps are like 90c on core3/4, 1.200v under load.
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Ya. Today i found quite a lot of ppl with d15 are reporting almost the same temp underload at 75-80 in game with no avx instructions. So i can said that our temp is normal and the other way around is to delid it which will bring our 8700k to 60c underload. Tempting to do it but i still dont want to void the warranty yet sad.gif. The tim from intel is just garbage.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Dec 30 2017, 01:58 PM)
Ya. Today i found quite a lot of ppl with d15 are reporting almost the same temp underload at 75-80 in game with no avx instructions. So i can said that our temp is normal and the other way around is to delid it which will bring our 8700k to 60c  underload. Tempting to do it but i still dont want to void the warranty yet sad.gif. The tim from intel is just garbage.
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if me its ok if under 85 mine also below 90 when gaming

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if me its ok if under 85 mine also below 90 when gaming
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under gaming i barely get 70c tbh cause not all cores are being under 100% load. for regular 100% load my temps are at 75c or so, though as @x800 pointed out the temps with FPU & cache stress would be the worst case scenario temps so I'd like to improve my thermals based on that biggrin.gif
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Am very new to OC and have been following guides on YouTube.
While I think I may have done as much as I can with the GPU OC using After Burner and Kombuster am still unsure on the CPU OC and stress test.
Some guide would be most appreciated.

My Rig that was just built:
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Dec 30 2017, 09:33 AM)
Yeap. Thats when u need avx offset for the rescue. Btw anyone experiencing avx bug whereby even idle at desktop trigger the avx offset ?
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AVX offset has been a debatable issue since Kaby Lake. Some said it's a bug while others saying otherwise.
It could be that you have certain OS software running in the background that's using AVX instructions, triggering the AVX offset thingy. Here's the list of AVX-based software: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/what-c...d-avx2.2498660/
Some games might be using AVX instructions, or NVIDIA driver itself is implementing it: http://www.overclock.net/t/1641867/avx-offset-bug
This doesn't happen with Skylake-X though or he needs more games to test: http://www.overclock.net/t/1643198/coffee-...ks-while-gaming
One guy said this bug is triggered when C-states are enabled in the UEFI: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/2704/psa-avx-offset-bug-real
I personally don't use AVX offset because I want my OC to be all out for worst case scenarios. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Xnet @ Dec 31 2017, 08:50 AM)
Am very new to OC and have been following guides on YouTube.
While I think I may have done as much as I can with the GPU OC using After Burner and Kombuster am still unsure on the CPU OC and stress test.
Some guide would be most appreciated.

My Rig that was just built:
Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7
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Check out the OC guide in the top post of this thread for GIGABYTE's Z370 GAMING 7. It will guide you OCing your 8700K to 5GHz.

But I don't think you can comfortably run 5GHz OC with your current air cooling, unless you hit silicon lottery with a really low VID (stock voltage with everything defaults) and delid. So it really depends on good is your CPU which varies from one chip to another. Get a bigger and better cooler like the NH-D15/S or 240mm+ AIO.

It is advisable to check your VID through the UEFI first before proceeding for OC. Check your CPU core temps with your CPU running at stock clocks with Realbench v2.56, then only proceed for 4.7GHz on all cores and so on.

For record, my 8700K has 1.088v VID and it's capable to do 5.0GHz running under a high-end custom loop at 1.280v on Prime95 v29.3 custom blend 1344K.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 12:21 PM)
AVX offset has been a debatable issue since Kaby Lake. Some said it's a bug while others saying otherwise.
It could be that you have certain OS software running in the background that's using AVX instructions, triggering the AVX offset thingy. Here's the list of AVX-based software: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/what-c...d-avx2.2498660/
Some games might be using AVX instructions, or NVIDIA driver itself is implementing it: http://www.overclock.net/t/1641867/avx-offset-bug
This doesn't happen with Skylake-X though or he needs more games to test: http://www.overclock.net/t/1643198/coffee-...ks-while-gaming
One guy said this bug is triggered when C-states are enabled in the UEFI: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/2704/psa-avx-offset-bug-real
I personally don't use AVX offset because I want my OC to be all out for worst case scenarios.  biggrin.gif
Check out the OC guide in the top post of this thread for GIGABYTE's Z370 GAMING 7. It will guide you OCing your 8700K to 5GHz.

But I don't think you can comfortably run 5GHz OC with your current air cooling, unless you hit silicon lottery with a really low VID (stock voltage with everything defaults) and delid. So it really depends on good is your CPU which varies from one chip to another. Get a bigger and better cooler like the NH-D15/S or 240mm+ AIO.

It is advisable to check your VID through the UEFI first before proceeding for OC. Check your CPU core temps with your CPU running at stock clocks with Realbench v2.56, then only proceed for 4.7GHz on all cores and so on.

For record, my 8700K has 1.088v VID and it's capable to do 5.0GHz running under a high-end custom loop at 1.280v on Prime95 v29.3 custom blend 1344K.
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wow! thanks for showing me the link as well. Appreciate your work notworthy.gif Yes I solve it by setting avx offset to zero now. so i can have 4.8ghz all day .
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 12:21 PM)
AVX offset has been a debatable issue since Kaby Lake. Some said it's a bug while others saying otherwise.
It could be that you have certain OS software running in the background that's using AVX instructions, triggering the AVX offset thingy. Here's the list of AVX-based software: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/what-c...d-avx2.2498660/
Some games might be using AVX instructions, or NVIDIA driver itself is implementing it: http://www.overclock.net/t/1641867/avx-offset-bug
This doesn't happen with Skylake-X though or he needs more games to test: http://www.overclock.net/t/1643198/coffee-...ks-while-gaming
One guy said this bug is triggered when C-states are enabled in the UEFI: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/2704/psa-avx-offset-bug-real
I personally don't use AVX offset because I want my OC to be all out for worst case scenarios.  biggrin.gif
Check out the OC guide in the top post of this thread for GIGABYTE's Z370 GAMING 7. It will guide you OCing your 8700K to 5GHz.

But I don't think you can comfortably run 5GHz OC with your current air cooling, unless you hit silicon lottery with a really low VID (stock voltage with everything defaults) and delid. So it really depends on good is your CPU which varies from one chip to another. Get a bigger and better cooler like the NH-D15/S or 240mm+ AIO.

It is advisable to check your VID through the UEFI first before proceeding for OC. Check your CPU core temps with your CPU running at stock clocks with Realbench v2.56, then only proceed for 4.7GHz on all cores and so on.

For record, my 8700K has 1.088v VID and it's capable to do 5.0GHz running under a high-end custom loop at 1.280v on Prime95 v29.3 custom blend 1344K.
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I managed to get 5.0 using some guide from internet.
I have attached a pix - your comments highly appreciated.


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I managed to get 5.0 using some guide from internet.
I have attached a pix - your comments highly appreciated.
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5.0GHz @ 1.344v seems like an average 8700K, so I think it's not going to run comfortably under air cooling/low end AIO etc.
What's your load temp in your daily applications/games and Cinebench R15?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 12:48 PM)
5.0GHz @ 1.344v seems like an average 8700K, so I think it's not going to run comfortably under air cooling/low end AIO etc.
What's your load temp in your daily applications/games and Cinebench R15?
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Do I bring it down lower to say 4.8Ghz?
BTW I am new to Windows having been on Mac all these while
And being new I dont even know much about the temp etc but I have attached another screenshot after running cinebench

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Alright guys, currently I am testing my 5.0GHz OC on the Hero X with the an air cooler in the form of Noctua NH-D15S (2x NF-A15 fans).
To my surprise, for some reason I need to pump more voltage as compared to my custom loop.

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Noctua NH-D15S: 1.328v, avg core temps: 39C Idle, 86C load
Custom loop: 1.280v, avg core temps: 37C Idle, 72C load

Yes that's right, 0.48v difference! blink.gif

At first I couldn't believe it so I re-tested using back my custom loop again I can confirm that there's no chip degradation in which I am still able to obtain stability at 1.280v under custom loop same like before, I don't know why LOL. rclxub.gif

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Do I bring it down lower to say 4.8Ghz?
BTW I am new to Windows having been on Mac all these while
And being new I dont even know much about the temp etc but I have attached another screenshot after running cinebench

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Cinebench R15 is a medium-load non-AVX based application that doesn't stress out your CPU that much but it is a good indication for your minimum cooling limit.
From your temps, I can see that you will have very high chance of hitting 100C mark in high-load software including gaming, resulting in speed throttling or worse, BSOD.
Either reduce your vCore (if possible), down your OC to 4.8-4.9GHz or upgrade your cooler.
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Alright guys, currently I am testing my 5.0GHz OC on the Hero X with the an air cooler in the form of Noctua NH-D15S (2x NF-A15 fans).
To my surprise, for some reason I need to pump more voltage as compared to my custom loop.

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Noctua NH-D15S: 1.328v, avg core temps: 39C Idle, 86C load
Custom loop: 1.280v, avg core temps: 37C Idle, 72C load

Yes that's right, 0.48v difference!  blink.gif

At first I couldn't believe it so I re-tested using back my custom loop again I can confirm that there's no chip degradation in which I am still able to obtain stability at 1.280v under custom loop same like before, I don't know why LOL. rclxub.gif
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interesting. So i might be able to get some voltage down when i pair my cpu with that new corsair 360mm AIO cooler xD.
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interesting. So i might be able to get some voltage down when i pair my cpu with that new corsair 360mm AIO cooler xD.
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I understand that the lower temps, the lower the voltage required but seriously did not expect as much as 48mV.. .Funny LOL.
Guess something is not right when the temps go above 80C, don't know...

btw, Corsair H150i Pro RGB 360mm AIO cooler appeared in a recent LTT video. Seems like the launch is not today, but most likely to be released during CES 2018 that will be held in Las Vegas between 7-12/1/2018.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 02:26 PM)
I understand that the lower temps, the lower the voltage required but seriously did not expect as much as 48mV.. .Funny LOL.
Guess something is not right when the temps go above 80C, don't know...

btw, Corsair H150i Pro RGB 360mm AIO cooler appeared in a recent LTT video. Seems like the launch is not today, but most likely to be released during CES 2018 that will be held in Las Vegas between 7-12/1/2018.

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thumbup.gif looking forward to it. hopefully it will arrive at our shore soon.
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thumbup.gif looking forward to it. hopefully it will arrive at our shore soon.
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Same here.
I'm curious because that review claimed that this 360mm AIO beats the NZXT X62 280mm by 13C, which is a huge figure. blink.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 01:13 PM)
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Alright guys, currently I am testing my 5.0GHz OC on the Hero X with the an air cooler in the form of Noctua NH-D15S (2x NF-A15 fans).
To my surprise, for some reason I need to pump more voltage as compared to my custom loop.

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Noctua NH-D15S: 1.328v, avg core temps: 39C Idle, 86C load
Custom loop: 1.280v, avg core temps: 37C Idle, 72C load

Yes that's right, 0.48v difference!  blink.gif

At first I couldn't believe it so I re-tested using back my custom loop again I can confirm that there's no chip degradation in which I am still able to obtain stability at 1.280v under custom loop same like before, I don't know why LOL. rclxub.gif
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that's quite a huge difference and prolly explains why I also had to pump the voltage that high. for the 72c custom loop, how long did you keep the rig under load?
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that's quite a huge difference and prolly explains why I also had to pump the voltage that high. for the 72c custom loop, how long did you keep the rig under load?
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That was a 3-hour run... check back few pages for the ss

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So this is the result after 2.5 hours priming with the NH-D15S... maximum temp hit 91C

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 1 2018, 02:07 PM)
So this is the result after 2.5 hours priming with the NH-D15S... maximum temp hit 91C

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On my NH-U14s its in the high 90s but passed the bench. I think I will add another fan for the noctua and test again
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Just went to chevk my bios setting again. Found out my vccio (auto) at 1.336v and voltage agent (auto) at 1.152v . Are these value too high??? My dram voltage it set to 1.35 default.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 1 2018, 04:20 PM)
Just went to chevk my bios setting again. Found out my vccio (auto) at 1.336v and voltage agent (auto) at 1.152v . Are these value too high??? My dram voltage it set to 1.35 default.
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Those values are almost similar to ASUS's boards running at auto setting.
At DDR4-3200, I have mine defaults at 1.3v and 1.125v respectively but I decided to reduce the VCCIO to down 1.125v and I can still run it stably. As a result, my CPU temp can be reduced a bit. biggrin.gif
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Seems like my MasterLiquid Pro 280 AIO cannot handle the heat, reaching 96C max and failed at 41 mins.
It could be that this AIO is a problematic review unit, so I guess I would need to pick another AIO cooler to the test.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 1 2018, 06:29 PM)
Those values are almost similar to ASUS's boards running at auto setting.
At DDR4-3200, I have mine defaults at 1.3v and 1.125v respectively but I decided to reduce the VCCIO to down 1.125v and I can still run it stably. As a result, my CPU temp can be reduced a bit.  biggrin.gif
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Which software are u using to test the ram stability? I have just tune both vccio and vccsa to 1.2v. I am now running prime95 blend test for 2 hrs. Kinda weird, when i click start blend, prime95 stop working msg pop out. but when i try to test again, it is running an hr without any crash. Not sure if the ram is stable or no.

Edit: After 2 hrs of prime95 blend test, no error or warning or crash. So i guess is stable.

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Mine is DDR4 3466Mhz what can I do to tweak it?
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Which software are u using to test the ram stability? I have just tune both vccio and vccsa to 1.2v. I am now running prime95 blend test for 2 hrs. Kinda weird, when i click start blend, prime95 stop working msg pop out. but when i try to test again, it is running an hr without any crash. Not sure if the ram is stable or no.
Edit:  After 2 hrs of prime95 blend test, no error or warning or crash. So i guess is stable.
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1) Prime95 custom blend 1344K 95%+ RAM usage
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Mine is DDR4 3466Mhz what can I do to tweak it?
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What's your RAM model specifically?
Activating XMP profile will automatically set your RAM speed/timings to the rating and voltage to 1.35v, VCCSA and VCCIO will be determined by your BIOS which might be excessive than your settings actually required.
You can try reducing or increasing them depending on the strength of your integrated memory controller (IMC) that's built inside your CPU IMC strength may vary from one chip to another so you will need to figure it out yourself by trial and error.
Obviously, weak IMC will require you to pump more VCCSA and/or VCCIO and vice versa.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 1 2018, 10:25 PM)
What's your RAM model specifically?
Activating XMP profile will automatically set your RAM speed/timings to the rating and voltage to 1.35v, VCCSA and VCCIO will be determined by your BIOS which might be excessive than your settings actually required.
You can try reducing or increasing them depending on the strength of your integrated memory controller (IMC) that's built inside your CPU IMC strength may vary from one chip to another so you will need to figure it out yourself by trial and error.
Obviously, weak IMC will require you to pump more VCCSA and/or VCCIO and vice versa.
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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jan 1 2018, 11:35 PM)
I am using the Corsair Vengeance CMR16GX4M2C3466C16
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That's a B-die RAM kit, awesome for OC with Coffee Lake.
But since you're still new, I'd suggest letting it run at XMP profile with default VCCSA and VCCIO.
No tweaks is necessary.
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Re-run Prime95 under custom loop just to make sure that my chip is not degraded. biggrin.gif
This time I monitored the VRM temp through temp sensor cable plugged on the T_sensor header on the board.
FYI, the Hero X doesn't come with a built-in VRM temp sensor out of the board that's why I used the temp sensor cable that came with my Extreme IX.
The VRM temp idles at 43C while registering 66C at full load, looks fine.

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As a comparison, VRM temps under...

Noctua NH-D15S: 42C idle, 59C load
CM MasterLiquid Pro 280: 42 idle. 69C load

From here you can see that the air generated by the fans mounted on the air cooler did help in chilling the VRM area.

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Not sure what really happen. I choose to run the prime95 custom and set everything according to your pic u share with 14000mb with 15min tome to run fft. Once i click start, a few worker stop immediately while others in self test mode. My cpu is not stress too coz the temp is at idle temp. Leave it for 2 hrs still not done. I try to stop the test but it wont let me do it. So i try to end task in task manager, an error pop out . I try again amd finally it close. Then i check my ram usage is now staying at 5.4gb. Really need help... Im very confuse now. One thing i notice is those worker who stop immediately are showing swap error something. ( Btw i shutdown my pc as i hv to go work)

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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 09:12 AM)
Not sure what really happen. I choose to run the prime95 custom and set everything according to your pic u share with 14000mb with 15min  tome to run fft. Once i click start, a few worker stop immediately while others in self test mode. My cpu is not stress too coz the temp is at idle temp. Leave it for 2 hrs still not done. I try to stop the test but it wont let me do it. So i try to end task in task manager, an error pop out . I try again amd finally it close. Then i check my ram usage is now staying at 5.4gb. Really need help... Im very confuse now. One thing i notice is those worker who stop immediately are showing swap error something. ( Btw i shutdown my pc as i hv to go work)
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Errors pop up means your OC is not stable. Most likely is due to imsufficient voltage etc.
Try launching Prime95 under Administrator mode to fix the RAM usage issue.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 2 2018, 09:27 AM)
Errors pop up means your OC is not stable. Most likely is due to imsufficient voltage etc.
Try launching Prime95 under Administrator mode to fix the RAM usage issue.
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Im still noob in prime 95. What can i do in prime95 administrator mode to fix the ram usage?

Edit : This is the error (Cannot initialize FFT code, errcode=1005 Unable to allocate memory. One possible cause is the operating system's swap area is too small)

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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 09:34 AM)
Im still noob in prime 95. What can i do in prime95 administrator mode to fix the ram usage?

Edit : This is the error (Cannot initialize FFT code, errcode=1005 Unable to allocate memory. One possible cause is the operating system's swap area is too small)
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Right click on the Prime95 icon on your desktop , run as Administrator.

The error pops up because you're attempting to stress a lot of RAM more than the available capacity.

Don't simply enter 14000 MB in the Prime95. Check your avaiable memory through the Windows Task Manager then only assign the capacity to stress.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 2 2018, 11:06 AM)
Right click on the Prime95 icon on your desktop , run as Administrator.

The error pops up because you're attempting to stress a lot of RAM more than the available capacity.

Don't simply enter 14000 MB in the Prime95. Check your avaiable memory through the Windows Task Manager then only assign the capacity to stress.
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I mean by fixing the ram usage , do u mean i just run as administrator and stop the test that is runing in background?

I have 16gb (2 x8gb) so i thought it should be fine for 14000mb since i have nothing open at that time only core temp and hwinfo.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 11:23 AM)
I mean by fixing the ram usage , do u mean i just run as administrator and stop the test that is runing in background?

I have 16gb (2 x8gb) so i thought it should be fine for 14000mb since i have nothing open at that time only core temp and hwinfo.
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Not sure if it's just me but there's a bug in the Prime95 that won't stress full RAM unless I run it in admin mode.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 2 2018, 12:19 PM)
Not sure if it's just me but there's a bug in the Prime95 that won't stress full RAM unless I run it in admin mode.
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Oh lol. I think you misunderstood. Usually my ram usage in idle will be 1.3gb but yesterday after i use task manager to end task the prime95 (since it wont allow me to stop it) n close the prime95. I found out my ram usage now idle at 5.4gb. so im worry did i do something wrong to the prime95 test that it mess up my ram usage?

Edit: in the task manager , the memory show memory composition with 2.5gb compress. Is this the result of setting too much ram in prime95 causes window to activate memory compression?

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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 12:36 PM)
Oh lol. I think you misunderstood. Usually my ram usage in idle will be 1.3gb but yesterday after i use task manager to end task the prime95 (since it wont allow me to stop it) n close the prime95. I found out my ram usage now idle at 5.4gb.  so im worry did i do something wrong to the prime95 test that it mess up my ram usage?

Edit: in the task manager , the memory show memory composition with 2.5gb compress. Is this the result of setting too much ram in prime95 causes window to activate memory compression?
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Seems like something else is running in the background and using quite an amount of your RAM.
Usually Prime95 won't cause that. When I click stop my RAM usage will go down to a very low percentage.
Rebooting Windows will fix this or not?
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Reboot seem to get back to default of 1.9 ram in used. Now I realise is my mistake for putting 14000mb as the size coz now i check the available ram is 13.8GB. Those stupid skype apps and window defender is eating up the ram to 1.9gb ram. Also forgot about the window cached that taking out 2.1gb sweat.gif no wonder my prime95 crash instantly...

In the task manager, I saw available ram is 13.6gb whereas inside the open resource monitor i saw free ram is 12gb. which one should I follow for prime95?

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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 08:10 PM)
Reboot seem to get back to default of 1.9 ram in used. Now I realise is my mistake for putting 14000mb as the size coz now i check the available ram is 13.8GB. Those stupid skype apps and window defender is eating up the ram to 1.9gb ram.  Also forgot about the window cached that taking out 2.1gb  sweat.gif  no wonder my prime95 crash instantly...

In the task manager, I saw available ram is 13.6gb whereas inside the open resource monitor i saw free ram is 12gb. which one should I follow for prime95?
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I think better use the free RAM of 12GB as showed in the Open Resource Monitor screen, keep the balance for the rest of the system.
I'm thinking that if you set it too high the OS will start using pagefile and memory won't be tested properly.



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Ok. Starting my prime test again now with 10000mb. Why after i press start already have a few workers stop working and show 0-minutes 0 error 0 warning? Is that normal? I can see my cpu is doing work becoz the temp raise to 60-70c.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 10:31 PM)
Ok. Starting my prime test again now with 10000mb. Why after i press start already have a few workers stop working and show 0-minutes 0 error 0 warning? Is that normal? I can see my cpu is doing work becoz the temp raise to 60-70c.
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Post the SS here with P95 screen, task manager etc.
Stressing 10000MB looks kinda small for a 16GB RAM.
Should take 95%+.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 2 2018, 10:35 PM)
Post the SS here with P95 screen, task manager etc.
Stressing 10000MB looks kinda small for a 16GB RAM.
Should take 95%+.
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Found out the problem. All along im using prime95 32bit =.=. Now running with 64bit prime. All workers is running now. I check the free ram before i start the test and it only have 11000mb so i set 10000mb.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 2 2018, 10:49 PM)
Found out the problem. All along im using prime95 32bit  =.=. Now running with 64bit prime. All workers is running now. I check the free ram before i start the test and it only have 11000mb so i set 10000mb.
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Sorry for the trouble >.<. thanks for the help. Now i will pray to the overclock god for smooth test.
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Bro Owikh84, the corsair h150i pro review is out.
(http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-h150i-pro-review,1.html). It seems like it is only slightly better than d15 . I guess delid would contribute more temp reduction.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 9 2018, 09:01 AM)
Bro Owikh84, the corsair h150i pro review is out.
(http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-h150i-pro-review,1.html). It seems like it is only slightly better than d15 . I guess delid would contribute more temp reduction.
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Seems like the thermal results vary from one review to another so I think we will need to read more reviews to compare. Different review sites used different CPUs and software to stress the coolers.

Mainstream Intel CPUs from Ivy Bridge till the newest Coffee Lake themselves have inefficient stock thermal paste and excessive gap underneath the IHS so these factors also need to be taken into the account. The thermal results won't be as accurate as the ones tested on the enthusiast-class CPUs (ie. 3930K etc) with soldered thermal interface. Furthermore, bigger chips like the 3930K have larger contact surface than the smaller CPUs.

G3D: performs similarly compared to Kraken X62 (based on 4790K)

Vortez: beats Kraken X62 by 13C (based on 3930K)

OC3D: outperforms Kraken X62 by 14.5C (7700K @ 5.0GHz)

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 9 2018, 10:26 AM)
Seems like the thermal results very from one review to another so I think we will need to read more reviews to compare. Different review sites used different CPUs and software to stress the coolers.

Mainstream Intel CPUs from Ivy Bridge till the newest Coffee Lake themselves have inefficient stock thermal paste and excessive gap underneath the IHS so these factors also need to be taken into the account. The thermal results won't be as accurate as the ones tested on the enthusiast-class CPUs (ie. 3930K etc) with soldered thermal interface. Furthermore, bigger chips like the 3930K have larger contact surface than the smaller CPUs.

G3D: performs similarly compared to Kraken X62 (based on 4790K)

Vortez: beats Kraken X62 by 13C (based on 3930K)

OC3D: outperforms Kraken X62 by 14.5C (7700K @ 5.0GHz)
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Totally agree with you. I think the most resemble one to i7 8700k will be the i7 7700k oc to 5ghz from OCD. The result is astounding.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 9 2018, 10:26 AM)
Seems like the thermal results vary from one review to another so I think we will need to read more reviews to compare. Different review sites used different CPUs and software to stress the coolers.

Mainstream Intel CPUs from Ivy Bridge till the newest Coffee Lake themselves have inefficient stock thermal paste and excessive gap underneath the IHS so these factors also need to be taken into the account. The thermal results won't be as accurate as the ones tested on the enthusiast-class CPUs (ie. 3930K etc) with soldered thermal interface. Furthermore, bigger chips like the 3930K have larger contact surface than the smaller CPUs.

G3D: performs similarly compared to Kraken X62 (based on 4790K)

Vortez: beats Kraken X62 by 13C (based on 3930K)

OC3D: outperforms Kraken X62 by 14.5C (7700K @ 5.0GHz)
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After all these years, you are still an enthusiastic overclocker who always do a lot of tests and reviews. Really thank you for surviving the "cpu overclocking" thread. And your 8700k bench scores are great, low Vcore @5.0 GHZ!
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After all these years, you are still an enthusiastic overclocker who always do a lot of tests and reviews. Really thank you for surviving the "cpu overclocking" thread. And your 8700k bench scores are great, low Vcore @5.0 GHZ!
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Thanks for your kind words... ehh without support from you guys this thread will be dead.
Regarding the low vcore 5GHz OC, I think I am just lucky to have found a nice chip.
No need to resell and buy another chip just to bin for better one like the old days.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 12 2018, 10:05 PM)
Thanks for your kind words... ehh without support from you guys this thread will be dead.
Regarding the low vcore 5GHz OC, I think I am just lucky to have found a nice chip.
No need to resell and buy another chip just to bin for better one like the old days.
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Did you still buy a lot of chip for lottery back in 4th, 6th gen? Back in our ivy bridge, a lot of people did that! Could it be due to good cooling and you able to lower the vcore to run at around 6x C during bench?
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QUOTE(wongtheboy92 @ Jan 12 2018, 10:41 PM)
Did you still buy a lot of chip for lottery back in 4th, 6th gen? Back in our ivy bridge, a lot of people did that! Could it be due to good cooling and you able to lower the vcore to run at around 6x C during bench?
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Yes, rechecking my paypal account found that I really wasted a lot of money just to buy from forumers who were willing to let go their good chips. My aim has been 5GHz at low vcore until now lol. Below is the list:

2600K 5.7GHz - $700 USD from XS forumer

3770K 6.75GHz - $600 USD from XS forumer
3770K IMC 2800+ - $450 USD from XS forumer
3770K IMC 2933+ - $480 USD from XS forumer

4770K x2 new - both were bad chips, didn't want to spend money to buy again
6700K x1 new - bad chip, lazy to bin
7700K x4 new - only one of them doing 5GHz @ 1.28v+
8700K x1 new - first chip strikes silicon lottery thumbup.gif

Good cooling is one thing, but most importantly is of course draw of luck in finding a decent chip with low stock voltage (VID).

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So, I went ahead and delidded my 8700K. It was super easy with the Rockit 88 delid tool, coupled with Coolaborator's Liquid Pro applied between the CPU Die-IHS and Kryonaut for IHS-waterblock.

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I managed to get a 12C drop in the load temperatures at 5GHz @ 1.280v. Because lower temps means less electrical leakage, I think I can still tune the vCore down a bit and go for higher OC like 5.1-5.2GHz.

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Delidded 8700K OC @ 5.1GHz requires exponential vCore bump, 1.344v from 1.280v (5.0GHz). Average load core temps registered at 67.5 degrees Celsius, when stressed with Prime95 v29.4 AVX for 3 hours.

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Hi guys, i am new to OC. i am using 8600k with gigabyte aorus 5 and deepcool ex 240 aio. I manage to get 4.5ghz around temperature 78 degree celcius when full load with prime95 without tweaking anything in the bios other than multiplier itself. Any suggestion from here for daily usage? Thanks
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QUOTE(ahteo9292 @ Jan 25 2018, 01:55 AM)
Hi guys, i am new to OC. i am using 8600k with gigabyte aorus 5 and deepcool ex 240 aio. I manage to get 4.5ghz around temperature 78 degree celcius when full load with prime95 without tweaking anything in the bios other than multiplier itself. Any suggestion from here for daily usage? Thanks
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Hi bro, welcome to OC club. biggrin.gif
With the auto BIOS settings, you let your motherboard to decide your voltages etc.
Depending on your board, auto CPU voltage (vCore) might be way set way too high than your CPU actually required.
For 4.5GHz, try manually setting the vCore at 1.1-1.2v (chip dependent).
For 5.0GHz OC guide, read this (shared in post #1 of this thread).
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Hi bro, welcome to OC club.  biggrin.gif
With the auto BIOS settings, you let your motherboard to decide your voltages etc.
Depending on your board, auto CPU voltage (vCore) might be way set way too high than your CPU actually required.
For 4.5GHz, try manually setting the vCore at 1.1-1.2v (chip dependent).
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hi, i trying to change the setting in my bios but it seemed that it dont let me to change anything about cpu clock ratio those. Any solution to this problem?
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hi, i trying to change the setting in my bios but it seemed that it dont let me to change anything about cpu clock ratio those. Any solution to this problem?
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First of all, it is advisable to update the BIOS to to the latest version. For your board, F5f: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z370-A...v-10#support-dl

Secondly, you have to go inside BIOS and set manual settings such as CPU core ratio/multiplier, core voltage, Load-line Calibration LLC, disable those power saving features such as C1E etc.

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anyone interested in buying a highend rig?
wanting to sell around 30k++
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wanting to sell around 30k++
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It would be better if you could list down the parts included as well as some pictures showing the setup etc.
I also noticed you have a WTS thread separately, perhaps you can put up more details there.
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High end rig for sale!  rclxms.gif
It would be better if you could list down the parts included as well as some pictures showing the setup etc.
I also noticed you have a WTS thread separately, perhaps you can put up more details there.
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yup list down the parts pls, wanna drool abit drool.gif
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High end rig for sale!  rclxms.gif
It would be better if you could list down the parts included as well as some pictures showing the setup etc.
I also noticed you have a WTS thread separately, perhaps you can put up more details there.
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No let wait for someone really interested n ok with the price only pm me haha most of the time is waste of time list everything
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Anyone here using single 240 radiator oc 8700k can i know what the temp tq want to change to itx
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Want to ask . If im planning to build an OC rig with a i5 8600k aiming 5ghz. I have shortlisted 2 mobo in mind. Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 5 and Asus Strix Z370-F .
I am aware Asus mobo had some vdroop issues in the past and seems like solved with a bios update.
Assuming both mobo is same price, which one to pick?

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Want to ask . If im planning to build an OC rig with a i5 8600k aiming 5ghz. I have shortlisted 2 mobo in mind. Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 5 and Asus Strix Z370-F .
I am aware Asus mobo had some vdroop issues in the past and seems like solved with a bios update.
Assuming both mobo is same price, which one to pick?
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Both ROG Strix Z370-F (RM875) and AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 (RM932) have almost identical VRM configurations (8 power phases), good looking RGB illumination, but the Strix doesn't have Debug LED for error troubleshooting and lacks one M.2 sockets compared to the Gaming 5 (triple M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4).

Or if you don't mind an inferior RGB, take a look at the ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6 (RM830) that has a stronger VRM (12 power phases) and comes with Debug LED.
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QUOTE(keyo @ Feb 15 2018, 05:25 PM)
Anyone here using single 240 radiator oc 8700k can i know what the temp tq  want to change to itx
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 10 2018, 07:28 PM)
Both ROG Strix Z370-F (RM875) and AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 (RM932) have almost identical VRM configurations (8 power phases), good looking RGB illumination, but the Strix doesn't have Debug LED for error troubleshooting and lacks one M.2 sockets compared to the Gaming 5 (triple M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4).

Or if you don't mind an inferior RGB, take a look at the ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6 (RM830) that has a stronger VRM (12 power phases) and comes with Debug LED.
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I couldnt find the asus board at your price. I only manage to get it at RM950.
Or should i step up to Gigabyte Aorus Z370 gaming 7 ? Seriously difficult to pick.
No. Im not taking Asrock. I had a bad experience with warranty claims previously.

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Mar 11 2018, 08:06 PM)
I couldnt find the asus board at your price. I only manage to get it at RM950.
Or should i step up to Gigabyte Aorus Z370 gaming 7 ? Seriously difficult to pick.
No. Im not taking Asrock. I had a bad experience with warranty claims previously.
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Gaming 7 is good, same tier as the ROG Apex. Previously it had VRM overheat issue but I heard it has been fixed in the new batch.

ASRock has two authorized distributors in Malaysia, SunCycle is good, AMT is bad.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 10 2018, 07:28 PM)
Or if you don't mind an inferior RGB, take a look at the ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6 (RM830) that has a stronger VRM (12 power phases) and comes with Debug LED.
This board rocks. I like it very much, affordable and comes with the Debug LED + ON / RESET button.
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QUOTE(koopa @ Mar 23 2018, 02:15 PM)
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What's the exact model of your NZXT AIO cooler?
How do your CPU temperatures look like?
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Welcome to the 5.0GHz OC club biggrin.gif
What's the exact model of your NZXT AIO cooler?
How do your CPU temperatures look like?
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Temperature is awesome. I actually do mining with the CPU too so it's on full load. I get around 63C. Sometimes it peaked at 76C I think. GPU I throttle at 80C.

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last week I update to latest bios for my mobo

I didn't realize it wiped my 5GHz (8700k) settings (my bad I didn't save it). I only realize it when I see my pc didn't run at 5GHz on load.

so I just play around again and include all values that I remembered. I'm not a extreme overclocker where by I can remember everything laugh.gif (learning from utube only... blush.gif )

after I key in everything and let my pc run. do some stress test, I found out my cpu speed wont go down to stock when on idle. what did I went wrong yea?

my cpu now stays at 5GHz all the time. but the temp around 40-45c on idle. on load it will go up to ~57c. speed remain.
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QUOTE(hafiez @ Apr 19 2018, 10:42 AM)
last week I update to latest bios for my mobo

I didn't realize it wiped my 5GHz (8700k) settings (my bad I didn't save it). I only realize it when I see my pc didn't run at 5GHz on load.

so I just play around again and include all values that I remembered. I'm not a extreme overclocker where by I can remember everything laugh.gif (learning from utube only... blush.gif )

after I key in everything and let my pc run. do some stress test, I found out my cpu speed wont go down to stock when on idle. what did I went wrong yea?

my cpu now stays at 5GHz all the time. but the temp around 40-45c on idle. on load it will go up to ~57c. speed remain.
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Your CPU is running at 5GHz constantly even on idle because power saving features have been disabled in the OS and BIOS settings.

In OS, go to Power Options, select Power Saver power plan.

In BIOS, go to CPU Configurations, look for power management settings, enable Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology (EIST) and C1E.

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Your CPU is running at 5GHz constantly even on idle because power saving features have been disabled in the OS and BIOS settings.

In OS, go to Power Options, select Power Saver power plan.

In BIOS, go to CPU Configurations, look for power management settings, enable Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology (EIST) and C1E.
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all are enable. this is what makes me wonder though...

and, is it normal for the temp to go up to 100c when doing Small FFTs test? I stop the test.

on Blend test, the temp seems normal for me.

edit:

OK, now I understand what u mean by OS Power Plan.

I change from High Performance to Balanced now.

Previously I changed to HP from Bal.

the speed now are at stock or lower on idle.

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all are enable. this is what makes me wonder though...

and, is it normal for the temp to go up to 100c when doing Small FFTs test? I stop the test.

on Blend test, the temp seems normal for me.

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OK, now I understand what u mean by OS Power Plan.

I change from High Performance to Balanced now.

Previously I changed to HP from Bal.

the speed now are at stock or lower on idle.
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It's normal that Small FFTs being hotter than Blend test.
Small FFTs demand less memory than the Blend test, so the CPU spends more time processing data and less time waiting for data.

I think this can be explained here: https://superuser.com/questions/981466/in-p...0-for-al/981477

In most situations you will find Small FFT can easily pass the test but fails almost quickly in Blend.
I'd use custom Blend 1344K min/1344K max FFT with 90%+ RAM capacity stressed.

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It's normal that Small FFTs being hotter than Blend test.
Small FFTs demand less memory than the Blend test, so the CPU spends more time processing data and less time waiting for data.

I think this can be explained here: https://superuser.com/questions/981466/in-p...0-for-al/981477

In most situations you will find Small FFT can easily pass the test but fails almost quickly in Blend.
I'd use custom Blend 1344K min/1344K max FFT with 90%+ RAM capacity stressed.
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ok, prior to ur reply i did some googling and the results said about the AVX which are enabled in newer version of PRIME. Version 26.x seems no AVX, so that the temp tested using this version will produce lower temp reading. Im on v29 btw.

Regarding the test, on the current settings i manage to get stable on Blend with 1.25v. But when on Small FTTs, immediate BSOD..

I increase the v to 1.27, run small FTTs, no BSOD after several minutes BUT the temp went high 😅...

Whats ur advice regarding the test. Im just normal user with gaming, surfing net n doing some minor work on PC.

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Apr 19 2018, 12:12 PM)
ok, prior to ur reply i did some googling and the results said about the AVX which are enabled in newer version of PRIME. Version 26.x seems no AVX, so that the temp tested using this version will produce lower temp reading. Im on v29 btw.

Regarding the test, on the current settings i manage to get stable on Blend with 1.25v. But when on Small FTTs, immediate BSOD..

I increase the v to 1.27, run small FTTs, no BSOD after several minutes BUT the temp went high 😅...

Whats ur advice regarding the test. Im just normal user with gaming, surfing net n doing some minor work on PC.
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I believe you did not run Blend correctly like I suggested earlier, which is 1344K/1344K FFT (min/max) and with 90%+ RAM tortured.

Small FFT won't stress the IMC like the Blend does.
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I believe you did not run Blend correctly like I suggested earlier, which is 1344K/1344K FFT (min/max) and with 90%+ RAM tortured.

Small FFT won't stress the IMC like the Blend does.
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ok, I'm running the custom test now.

suggested time to test, 3 hours plus OR 10 minutes?
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ok, I'm running the custom test now.

suggested time to test, 3 hours plus OR 10 minutes?
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At least 3 hours, up to 8 hours.
10 minutes is seriously too short to find errors.
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At least 3 hours, up to 8 hours.
10 minutes is seriously too short to find errors.
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alright I've done my observation for several hours

I re-do all my settings and I start from 0

previously I'm using 5GHz preset by asrock but I edit few things;

max core ratio 50
cpu cache ratio 43
BCLK freq 100
AVX ratio offset Auto

Core voltage 1.25-1.30 (fixed)
Load Line Calibration Level 1

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then I cleared everything but only edit these ^^ 6 settings, instead of using preset+self edit

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when running Prime95 - Custom 1344 Min/Max 90% RAM ;

on 1.25v, BSOD

on 1.27v, System Freeze

on 1.28v, I get worker stopped windows only 7/12 cores working

on 1.285v, only 11/12 workers working after 1 minute

on 1.29v, only 11/12 workers working after several minutes

on 1.30v, all workers working fine on 10 minutes test <-- this I need to test overnight because I do short test to see the workers failing or not upon increasing the V.

++ in CPU-z it shows 1.296v-1.312v during stress test and during idle.

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owikh84, let say only one worker failed or stopped during the prime test, what should I do?

increase RAM voltage?

I read, some said increase the ram voltage

problem is, my ram is 2400MHz and 1.2v

I'm using crucial ballistix sport lt 8gb and single

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right now I'm running at 1.3v 5GHz on normal usage.

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owikh84, let say only one worker failed or stopped during the prime test, what should I do?

increase RAM voltage?

I read, some said increase the ram voltage

problem is, my ram is 2400MHz and 1.2v

I'm using crucial ballistix sport lt 8gb and single

--edit

right now I'm running at 1.3v 5GHz on normal usage.
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