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dzi921
post Aug 24 2007, 10:54 AM

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Just left Public Bank and opened 2 accounts PISBF and PSMALLCAP

Now I'm drained out. Waiting for salary...
dzi921
post Aug 24 2007, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(shih @ Aug 24 2007, 11:04 AM)
Yeah, I can go to PM branch to switch my balanced fund to something else too.
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What you plan to switch to?
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post Aug 24 2007, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:51 PM)
dzi921, why on earth you opened so many funds? You got time to monitor? Reaping short term profit? It's not easy to break even in short period.
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I'm always on the net, even when I'm on the move (thanks to Celcom 3G)

I don't have that many accounts previously. Here are my list

PRSF (currently all my main bullets in here)
PGF (new - haven't get account number)
PSMALLCAP (new - haven't get account number)
PIEBF (new - haven't get account number)
PISBF (new - haven't get account number)

PEBF (zero units, cannot topup, so switch all out)
PRSEC (zero units, don't like the performance)

Right now all my bullets are in PRSF (RM70k), very dangerous to have all in one basket. I have to diversify my funds. So took this time to create the accounts first and prepare for the next correction.

My plan for the future,
When time is low (like now), I will switch all to equity (PRSF, PGF, PSMALLCAP) and wait
When time is high (like 1 month ago), I will switch all to bond (PISBF, PIEBF) and wait for correction

Anyway, my portfolio (even after minus service charges for new funds) is still profit 14.37%. So OK la regarding the service charge.


Added on August 24, 2007, 2:27 pmOn top of that, I'm not reaping for short term profit. The money I've invested in UT is for long term. I considered the money invested in UT is spent and not going to get it back for a very very very long time or serious emergency

I'm planning to switch here and there so that I can gain the most out of it

I'm setting my milestone to get mutual gold by this year or next. Then only I will play stock directly for fun. Currently only have IRIS (ESOS)


Added on August 24, 2007, 4:14 pm
QUOTE(leekk8 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:42 AM)
Dzi921,

Actually you can download the softcopy from Public Mutual website. Go to Fund Product, Fund Review, you must register as online member, sign in then you can download all the financial reports of the funds as well as the quarterly review, and even monthly review.

You also can get your agent to provide you hardcopy of it.
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Ok, found it
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/documents/F...007%20(eng).pdf



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post Aug 24 2007, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:22 PM)
Now I'm paying full attention on PFES and PAIF. Both are off-shore funds.
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Why is that so?
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post Aug 24 2007, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:28 PM)
Because those are the only two equity funds I have in my hand. Others are REIT and bond funds.
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How long you holding the two equity funds? Positive already?
dzi921
post Aug 25 2007, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(shih @ Aug 25 2007, 12:07 AM)
Indeed. You can do what you want to do with your money. If you opt for UTs, you have to pay for the profesional fund management. If you want to get a financial planner, you need to pay more for each consultation. Financial plan need to be follow up closely.

Normally people that go for UTs or other actively managed investment products is those who are busy with their own life and not be able to do frequent monitoring. If you have time, you can trade stocks like a full time player.

athon11, if you follow my post you should see I already clarify that everyone have their own taste and choice and they have their right what to do with their money.
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Or because they are like me, ignorant in Stock shakehead.gif
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post Aug 25 2007, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(ejleemy @ Aug 25 2007, 08:23 AM)
There are many scams around. Even the highly educated people like lawyers, doctors have fallen to these traps. We have heard about swiss fund, blackstone fund etc... People were investing millions in those and then found out the funds are non-existant. All the savings gone for that little greed..........

This is why we should only invest in SC approved funds.
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When things are too good to be true, then have to becareful

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dzi921
post Aug 25 2007, 03:59 PM

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I submitted a standing instruction on 24/07. Today 25/08, I received a letter saying rejected cause signature problem. Sux. How efficient is their work. 1 month to process, can compete with government service liao

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
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post Aug 25 2007, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 25 2007, 04:14 PM)
Which investment house and branches? one month only replying? market already can go very far.
We should avoid doing business with inefficient people, it might mean lots of money in stake in financial market.
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Public Mutual. Bangsar Branch. I did the standing there directly

Personally I don't like standing instructions, but have no choice cause PEBF is closed and can only be topup using SI
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post Aug 26 2007, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 08:20 AM)
Pressure to cut unit trust upfront fees

PETALING JAYA: Pressure is mounting for unit trust upfront sales charges to be reduced as new players emerge.

The matter was also brought up by the Employees Provident Fund (EPF). In recent talks with the Federation of Malaysian Unit Trust Managers (FMUTM) and its members, EPF asked them to consider lowering the charges to facilitate investment in unit trusts.

Industry observers said with Tune Money and InterPacific Asset Management Sdn Bhd coming onstream, there was greater pressure to lower the upfront fees and this should bode well for the investing public.

It is also learnt that EPF, in the past two to three months, had proposed to FMUTM that the maximum sales charges for unit trust investment be capped at 3% as opposed to the average 5% to 6%.

Sources said FMUTM had appealed to the Finance Ministry, saying the EPF's proposed charges were too low and that the federation would consider lowering the charges gradually.

The dispute is expected to continue and the pressure is growing in every meeting between the EPF and the federation, according to an observer.

The latest player to join the unit trust league is InterPacific, which currently does not impose any upfront sales charges. Tune Money, meanwhile, plans to launch funds online with zero or minimal sales charges.

With the entrance of these players, competition is getting intense and fund houses will need to review their charges to ensure they are able to sustain the public's interest in investing with them, according to an industry observer.

By not imposing any upfront fees, a unit trust management company can fully invest their clients' money in the funds, they added.

Sources said many fund houses were not very keen on the EPF proposal to reduce the charges as it would affect their distributors' income, leading to lower sales volumes. At present, many of them sell funds via agents and banks (as third-party distributors).

It is estimated that 60% to 70% of unit trust management companies sell funds through agents and banks. As of May 31, there were 39 unit trust management companies with a total 462 approved funds.

An observer, however, said while the industry trends might lead to a gradual lowering of upfront fund charges, distributors could still succeed by growing their assets under management over the long term.

They could do this by being more productive and further elevating their capability to ensure long-term retention of customers, he added.

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...52&sec=business
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I strongly support buy direct thumbup.gif
Else they should give us the choice. Have agent service charge more. No agent service charge less
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post Aug 26 2007, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 12:41 PM)
Don't miss the OSK-UOB Asian Real Estate Fund

For more info, visit:
http://www.maybank2u.com.my/highlights/oskuob/index.shtml
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You buying?
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post Aug 26 2007, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 02:53 PM)
I have bought PM PFEPRF. sleep.gif
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Mind to share what PM funds you have?
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post Aug 26 2007, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 07:21 PM)
Public Far-East Properties & Resorts Fund. Launched last month!
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No, I mean what other funds you holding other than this?
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post Aug 26 2007, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 07:44 PM)
My friend, how many times I have to repeat this? sweat.gif

PFES
PAIF
PFEPRF
PSBF

All from PM.
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Yakar, maybe I didn't notice gua notworthy.gif
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post Aug 26 2007, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 26 2007, 07:56 PM)
Nothing impressive. You might want to follow my portfolio. It may not suit your taste.
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I think I wouldn't be opening up new accounts for now unsure.gif
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post Aug 27 2007, 11:00 AM

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For me, they should give the choice of having an agent or no agent charges if I were to buy online
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post Aug 28 2007, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Aug 27 2007, 11:09 PM)
Yes, some investors need agent to explain everything about unit trust investment to them, and also monitor the fund for them...

Another good thing is, you can get agents who always keep track of the share market, thus he/she can recommend when to switch your fund.
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I wonder how efficient are those agents (if they have a lot of clients)
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post Aug 28 2007, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 28 2007, 10:37 AM)
I always keep reminding my agent to be more responsive.
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Then he should share his commission with you instead. Part of the work is done by you smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2007, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 28 2007, 04:34 PM)
Today my friend introduce me Public Mutual funds, she is an agent, but only 2 weeks plus experience in this industry.
My problems:
1. I plan to invest in Public Mutual funds, but I don't have any experiences, what should i do? (since my friend (the agent) and me both new in this industry)
2. She introduce me 3 types of funds, which are
(a) Public China Select FUnd (PCSF)
(b) Public Islamic Asia Balanced Fund(PIABF)
(C) Public Islamic Dividend Fund (PIDF)
which one should i choose?
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1) Before you start invest make sure you have at least 3 to 6 months of expense savings as backup (preferably to save this in FD). Reason of having this is because you do not want to withdraw your UT money when time is bad

2) Whatever money you invest in UT, don't expect to take it back anytime soon cause when you buy, you already loose -6.5% (equity funds). It will need some time before seeing positive

3) Now might be good time as market is under correction. Some say might be over, some say might be the beginning of doom's day. That up to you to decide. Personally my money is all out already. If the worse happened, UT have time to exit compared to those that invested direct in stock market. You can sell UT anytime

4) Learn what is switching fund all about. This is to maximize your earning. This requires some time to monitor
When Time is high / Met your target = Switch to Bond for parking
When Time is low / Correction = Switch to equity

5) Not all UT agents are doing their job well. You might need to monitor you own investment

6) Once you open a new account, it will take at least 2 to 3 weeks before you will receive you account number

7) If you to use standing instruction (buying a fix amount automatically from your bank account every month at a fixed date), allow this process to take up to 2 months. I would suggest you to use Public Bank instead of Maybank. Maybank is a bit slower in processing this.

8) If possible, you do not need to even use standing instructions. Use Public Ebanking. You can buy more units anytime and there is no charge. You have the flexibility of choosing when to topup

9) Choose you funds based on your stomach. Are you aggressive, moderate, or conservative. You can have a look at the funds past performance as a benchmark. Note that past results serves as reference. It doesn't mean it will be the same in future. But PM is known for consistent performance, so not too bad smile.gif

10) Remember to buy some equity and bond funds

My personal choice is to buy those funds which are already in the market for quite some time with consistent performance smile.gif But that is me la
dzi921
post Aug 29 2007, 05:06 PM

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Salary is out tomorrow. Thinking to shoot some more. Budget RM3k

Problem, I only have PRSF account active, the rest (PGF, PSMALLCAP, PIEBF, PISBF) are still too new. Don't even have the account number yet

So how? Any suggestion?

I don't feel like toping up PRSF. Should I open new account?

Which new fund should i try? PIX?

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