Any good doctor around? Thanks.

dont want to get kids after marry?

dont think its easily reversible.
think twice

There is actually some reversible process for men. The process can be reversed in 10 years period with reducing success rate over the years.

yup

more than twice

if u want kids, but not immediately after marriage.. why don't just use condoms???

no, we don't plan to have any kids at all.

does vasectomy kills off your sexual urge?

EDIT: can vasectomy kill your sexual urge?

This post has been edited by imhereto: Aug 12 2015, 08:39 PM

according to science it won't.

you still generate testosterones, which drive your libido

i see. not for me then.

how old are you? testosterones naturally decreases as you get older.

I did consult with doctor regarding this with my gynae when he was asking me about my birth control plan.

He said logically, this is an small operation, when compare to female's one.
However, vasectomy is not common, not many doctor had much experience in doing this.
If you wish to do, better look for doctor who had good experience in doing this operation.

Yeah. That's why I check if there's anyone can recommend.

hmmmm do you know any medication/pills i can take to reduce testosterone ? not significantly, just for 'the days' la.

EDIT: btw, sorry i cant help u with what u're looking for.

This post has been edited by imhereto: Aug 13 2015, 04:15 PM

I'm not sure about that. I often heard guys want to increase testosterone, not decrease.

It's not common here.. but yes.. compare to female sterilization.. vasectomy is a minor procedure, can be done under local anaesthesia..
Sorry to ask.. why dun plan to have kids?
Genetic issues? Sorry if i offended..

Not genetic issue. There are many factors involved. One of them is that we wish to dedicate our lives to fellow human beings and the world, not just our own little family unit. Also, the current state of the world discourage me to bring another human being in this world, unless it's improving. But by the look of it, it seems to be worsening.

erm..why don't you go to a fertility clinic. You know, your sperm mortality rate might be 0%. Could save you some money.

yeah but you won't know when they'll be alive. and isn't mortality rate 0% = fertility rate 100%? you mean mortality rate 100%

I think he meant 'motility'...

This post has been edited by hairybelly: Aug 18 2015, 10:50 AM

How bout the cost? Any idea how much?

a few thousands I assume?

Who's getting it, you or the wife?

me

How old are you J1g54w...? same age with your partner

32 and 31

Well, I'm lost for words by the way good luck & congratulations to both of you. One more thing, what religion do you practice...?

Don't want your wife to get pregnant, don't make love, simple as that. Making love is a sin to begin with.
Follow too many Singaporeans already? Do you think you can have enough money for your old days? I can't, so I need to make 1-2 children so that when I'm old and no money, they will support me.

Why not get an IUD for the wife? That way if you change your mind can just take the IUD out.

how is god even related to this topic

maybe
and i say again maybe

after working his ass off for 50+ years,and suddenly have to retire. they just can't sit still and retire
even now im 35 only, i can't stand staying at home retiring for more than 3 days. i will go crazy wanna go back to work.

Kids are God gift. You will missed out the happiness. Trust me it is worth to go through the ordeal of having children. Indeed it's tough and worrying, but that's part of going through the cycle of life.

You may not be able to get the vasectomy surgery that you want. Ask your wife to get Implanon. Last for 5 years. If in between you two change mind in having kids, just remove the Implanon. If still don't want, just continue get a new Implanon

Wow since when this thread has turned into a judgmental, kopitiam-styled topic? If you guys can't respect people's decisions, please don't bother to reply here. I have went though deep considerations over this so don't shove your self-righteousness around here as I don't want to turn this thread into a fight, even though I know I will win the argument if I do.

So please, if you have nothing better to say in reply to what I have actually asked on the topic, please just stay away. Thanks.

Thanks for the recommendation. Will check it out.

This post has been edited by J1g54w: Sep 12 2015, 02:51 PM

to reduce testosterone usually will need to take oestrogen hormone la...try take in female morning pills..

thanks. do you have experience with its side effects though?

never take any supplements to surpress my testosterone level.

In fact I have been working hard to improve my T hormone in healthy manners and maintain it at healthy level

too little of T hormone / too much estrogen hormone causing our body easily to keep fats

too much T hormone make us more prone to anger and attitude issues, as per articles that I read which pointed out these facts according to research journals they refer

eh sorry for not replying your answer

but I think rather than vasectomy...you might want to consider other long term temporary method like copper coil ke apa nama tah. got one type of device that doctor will fit into ladies punya apa tube tu...forgot already

oh ok... I'm looking for male solutions only.

is that true in Bold? My friends catholic or christian don't have that view.

best to check with your doc.. getting married but don't want to generate testosterone want to be less manly or not manly...

U need vasectomy recommendations.. U have to disclose where you located...
someone may have done it overseas, that recommendation may not be feasible.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 22 2015, 03:59 AM

klang valley

Refer back to Adam and Eve
But if they never committed this sin, there's no huam

I am sure you are the type of people who see a house on fire and just stay there "not my problem". useless human on earth.

to TS, you better open a discussion topic over vasectomy first. your mind is so narrow. open up and discuss first pro and con. everyone have their own choice. but your choice is not from the suppose one. your choice never will be necessary. Bye.

Bro, TS already told us at first post and posts after that he has already discussed this matter with HIS FAMILY , HIS WIFE, and has THINK ABOUT THIS MATTER MORE THAN TWICE.

It is his fuckin choice, who are you to order him to have another round of discussion?

This is just A FUCKING GODDAMN SIMPLE QUESTION, man. Do you know any good vasectomy? If yes, GIVE YOUR FUCKING ANSWER, TOLD HIM "HEY I KNOW THIS DOCTOR GOOD, MEET HIM"

If you don't know, THEN JUAT SHUT THE FUCK OFF AND BRING YOUR OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT VASECTOMY TO OTHER PLACE.

God damn whats wrong with people nowadays? People asking simple yes/no question, but still wanna beat around the bush. Bodoh tak bersuap, nak tunjuk pandai tak bertempat.

Making love? Adam and Eve sin was making love?
I thought it was not obeying God and makan the forbidden fruit! Or u meant the fruit was sex? God told them not to have sex but they did? Still the sin is not obeying God.
Did the Christians interprets it as having sex? My old paster didn't very view it this way

oh just now "not my problem", now you want to be "why you help them?!! Let the house in fire! Let the people die!" person. Congratz bro. You are truely a hero. Thumbs up!

I don't need a discussion topic over vasectomy just as you don't need a discussion topic on whether god exists. If you want to preach, please go to the religious sites. Thanks.

Woo calm down bro. Don't feed the troll, don't fan the fire. Thanks for moderating the thread on my behalf though.

And it'd be best if religious topic is discussed here.

I know you dont. I just have to do it. Thanks anyway. Enjoy your life.

I just remembered my auntie got do vasectomy once, but on herself la.

I'll check with her in few weeks. Will bookmark ur thread. You may tag my name next week to ask for update.

U try googling what if vasectomy? Auntie is female but has male parts to do it on?

After 3 pages of getting no where not hard to google it and check for reviews.

Such procedure not commonly perform in this part of the world.

Ppl around me had it done in states but they all Ang mo

This post has been edited by patryn33: Oct 22 2015, 09:57 AM

I'll ask my aunt for the doctor detail first, then i engage the doctor la to check with him whether he can do vasectomy or not.

Relax bruh. Chill.

Sorry u got worked up...
I didn't just cannot comprehend what is written.

Finally kind soul helping him out.

I have tried google and like you said, difficult to find reviews here. Hence, I need to try word of mouth (recommendation) and thus here. At least I got a lead like vanpersie91

Also, thanks to the majority of people in this part of the world condemning a lifestyle without reproduction, some people just don't want to argue and prefer to not talk about it.

Thanks a bunch! At the moment I'm using an app called iCycleBeads for contraception planning but I'd still want to reduce 99% to 99.99%.

Check with your doctor. Vasectomy is not really a complicated surgery, so most doctors who do do it should be good enough.

Bruh

I tried asked my aunt, she do her litigation at hospital serdang. But she also told me that malaysia not allow male to do vasectomy, based on what her doc told her la. Probably yeah u had to do it overseas..

Another contacts (shes taking medic) said probably can do vasectomy but need to provide very strong reason.

Thats all i got.

wah... outlaw personal decision... if this is not fascist then what it is?

thanks anyway

I'm not sure la whether is there anywhere written Malaysia actually outlaw its citizen from performing vasectomy, but probably you can check further with your doctor, i guess.

No prob mate

you seem mature......you should have at least one kid =) ..... its an experience, I know more than a few who have gone through the same thought process...guess what....some remorse is always felt....whatever your decision is...I respect that. good day.

I don't want to bring a human life into this system just because for my selfish 'experience'. If all the governments stop behaving immaturely and actually improve the world to be a better place for everyone, then I will reconsider.

What has government got anything to do with the act of procreation?

This planet lacks parents who are mature enough to handle the upbringing of healthy, well-adjusted children.

bad government > bad social environment > bad people > bad government (cycle)

to break this cycle a conscious effort to change the system has to happen

guess what, I am putting my boy in such an environment with some advice 'la' ..... I told him he had two choices.....be glum about it or breakout and thrive.....guess what the 12 year old chose ?

Dunno about you, I am of the thought that the greatest and the worst thing on this planet are humans. But I wont let a few rotten apples spoil my day.

Anyways we need more good peeps to break that cycle =) by not procreating the ALLEGEDLY BAD GOV wins, dude.

You have a point. That's not my only concern though. If I'm going to have a child I want to home-school him and spend most my time taking care of him. I wouldn't trust anyone else to take care of him, even my parents or relatives. Since I wasn't born with a silver spoon and I have to work, it's in the best interest not to have a child.

I hope you have not snipped yet =D

You worry too much, people were having children through the worst of times throughout the history of humanity.

I have a son and I know more than a few couples intimately who have ummm 'furkids' (a rather demeaning word to actual children all over the world and those of us who were once and still are).

You have to talk to people who are in the 50s who are childless. Get more insights into it before actually committing and pls pls dun think one can replace a child (who talks back =D) with a PET.

Good luck!

Why do you want to be sterilized permanently?
If you want your wife to be unable to get pregnant, get her hormonal implant.

She will not be able to get pregnant for 3 YEARS per implant.

See below:

http://www.implanon-usa.com/en/consumer/index.xhtml

It is not available in Govt Clinic/Hospital. You will have to get your wife implanted with it in private hospital.

never know that it exists.

It does. You can try inquiring private hospitals for it.
You wont have to become permanently sterile with implanon available.

Implanon is available at LPPKN. Subsidised. 3 yrs pregnancy free, no pills needed.

Nah, I've seen too much. People have children all for their selfish reasons. I'm not interested.

Wow, people sure are harsh towards others who do not want kids. Why can't we all just respect each other choices in life instead of forcing our beliefs onto each other?

TS, looks like you might need to go overseas for the procedure or look at other methods of birth control for your wife, such as implanon stated above. Me and my partner talked about this too and I didn't know vasectomy isn't available in this country. Guess I'll speak to my Gynae about implanon soon. Thanks for the thread and all the best to your search

who told you this rubbish?

Interesting. I was not aware that Malaysia doesn't have the vasectomy procedure.

please keep your backward thinking to yourself. btw i dont share the same view with ts either. having children is not hoping for any returns. its the joyful moments spent with the kids, the satisfaction gained in showing your kids to the world, those are just priceless.

Must one be married to have that done at LPPKN? Or any female can walk in and get it done?

Yea, me too. Thought it was available since I'm pretty sure I've studied about it in school years back. I know ligation is available as I have relatives who had it done, but this is new to me too.

I think need to be married to get it done at LPPKN/KK for it to be subsidised.. but private clinic can do it for singles, just not subsidised.

Thanks for the info.

It is not backward thinking basically. What ever we do, we need to think of the cause and effect of our act.
Is something like you want to steal everyday, but don't want to get caught.

No one is asking for your opinion on whether society (or you) deems it's alright or its wrong to not want to have kids. And no one can force their opinion on someone else.

So if you have nothing better to say, please stop derailing the topic or actions will be taken.

If an implant under your skin is not your thing, another good alternative is Mirena (about 3-5yrs) or copper IUD.

Mirena helps with pain/bleeding etc..no systemic hormonal effect. But way more expensive.

Nurses in KK often prefer copper IUD than Implanon (cheap, can take out easily).

This post has been edited by Syd G: Dec 19 2015, 06:54 PM

Pain/bleeding as in menstrual cramps and bleeding? Sounds good.

My hormones are quite sensitive too so preferably something that will not or least affect the hormones. Will look into Mirena as well.

Yes menstrual cramps and bleeding. Very light periods afterwards because the mechanism is to thin out the endometrium. Not because you're going into menopause or something

Implanon works via systemic circulation (spread hormones from your arms to your body, and hits your reproductive organs), but Mirena works by local release of hormone. But do get your gynae's advice. Not some stranger on the Internet

Ooh interesting. Thanks so much for the info
The IUD sounds ideal haha. Now I know what to ask and look up already

vasectomy seems to be common thing for the western. In Msia, anyone heard of it done on your relatives or friends? I'm worry that the doctor here are so out of practice that complication might occur.

We are planning to stop having kids, but so far, still not sure which option to go yet.

My cousin in law had his done in Sydney. He mentioned that the recovery period is much better to deal with than circumcision, the morning erections won't hurt that bad. Which is probably the reason how he's able to fly back to Malaysia just one day after surgery.

I was told by someone who is working in a fertility clinic that vasectomy is indeed available in Malaysia. Try asking your urologist about it.

Stumbled upon this thread/Q.... Wow so many people on high horses here. It's TS choice lah. Ppl ask question obviously already researched and thought about it. Suddenly religion get pulled in, then ask ladies side to do and bla bla bla..... Zzzz.

TS, I have friends who did this in DSH (damansara specialist hospital). Was a simple procedure it seems, no need to stay. Give them a call and hope you can start there.

Respect your choice and decision man, all the best!

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Interesting.... nowadays with high cost of living, doubt that next generation will take care of parents....

Is supersound has a sound mind? Who on earth will label Making love as sin? WTF!

Having sex doesn't mean u need to procreate.

This post has been edited by Amanda85: Apr 4 2016, 11:20 AM

Nowadays many children still depend on their parents even after working. Live in parent's house, feed on parent's food, depend on parents for laundry, homemaking, etc. Some more it's becoming increasingly harder for younger generations to own a house, can't imagine for children in future.

Rarely hear this from a female
I agree, it's to increase intimacy and production of good hormones. It's really funny to have weird traditions dictating how you should live your life.

Hello Jigsaw,

As I can see from your first comment to the latest. You are currently still having another mindset of not having future generations. Life in this world might be cruel due to environment and the country's currency. Supportive for a children is also not a cheap price. Before born, you have to take care of your wife, guiding her before delivery. While on the way to the hospital, First comes is the payments for the children is Gasoline. After born, needs to pay Hospitality Fees for hundreds. If it is in a private Hospital, might costs thousands !!

Planning for future education, pocket money, school fees etc. It will become an unbelievable commitment.

In the other hand, you will enjoy the life with your future generation and having memories together. Imagine and remember back, how did our parents worked so hard to give us a comfortable lifestyle? And how did you give your parents a living lifestyle after you went to work in a company?

Pocket money for parents is a fair thing to do. At least at old age, the old generation will not starve to death and looking for a job. Don't be so negative, life will goes by every single day. So it's time to change your mindset bro~! Peace

are you effing kidding me. already people say don't force your effing stupid uneducated and completely personal opinion onto others still don't understand ka?

are you bloody stupid or what? what the fark is wrong with with you idiots, why do you think your damn perspective of life is more superior than another person's choice? how bloody bigoted can you people be?

I notice this very consistently in all those who preach about having kids. It's all about THEIR lives. I can enjoy life with everyone's future generations, not necessarily only with MY OWN family or children. People are too focused on their own lives and own family and forget that the world is a big family.

TS, have u got it done? Pls share.

Hi.. Have u done it? Can share with me?
Coz my hubby also looking for Doctor to do the vasectomy..

I know ukm hospital provide vasectomy

This post has been edited by codeiki: Dec 10 2018, 12:16 PM

Christian belief of the state of sin in which humanity exists since the fall of man, stemming from Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden, namely the sin of disobedience in consuming the forbidden fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

*btw i’m a Christian ☺️

This post has been edited by coca^cola: Dec 12 2018, 10:54 AM

Save some in sperm bank, just in case.. 😉