QUOTE(beemaro @ Jul 22 2015, 08:32 PM)
review n picture pls...LYN Scuba Divers Club V6.0, Say hi to the fishes..
LYN Scuba Divers Club V6.0, Say hi to the fishes..
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Jul 22 2015, 09:11 PM
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Jul 22 2015, 10:29 PM
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Jul 22 2015, 10:55 PM
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I feel that tec diving confers risks that may not be acceptable to many. Consents are easily taken, but whether or not they truly understand what they're gonna go through remains doubtful. Recreational diving is generally safe as there is acceptably adequate evidence from previous accumulated data which makes the dangers more predictable. To be more specific, it is up to the 20-22m mark only. In other words, diving safely up to those depths will almost guarantee no harm, but past those depths, no matter how safely you dive, with all the safety stops and added conservatisms, the risks are still assumed to be higher.
Scuba diving is still relatively 'uncharted territory'. There is insufficient evidence on many aspects of diving; for example the long term effects of diving on the body, thresholds of diving limits between people, the whole decompression theory itself etc. Unfortunately, the algorithms that define dive planners and comps are still 'models'. Bounce diving causes unacceptable DCS risks, yet it is allowed by some dive comps. With all that being said, aren't we all risk takers in the first place the moment we decided to dive? This post has been edited by demetrius: Jul 22 2015, 11:12 PM |
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Jul 23 2015, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(ukiya @ Jul 22 2015, 09:11 PM) Went to dive concepts (owned by french guy)Day trip from seminyak, they picked me from hotel and send back each way 3 hrs! total cost is 1.2 mil rupiah It's best stay in tulamben area cause I went Bali with non divers Dived at drop off, coral garden and liberty Obvious liberty is best. Now is good weather to visit Bali with cool winter breeze from australia Sorry not much pic as using iPhone 4 + casing Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jul 23 2015, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(demetrius @ Jul 22 2015, 10:55 PM) I feel that tec diving confers risks that may not be acceptable to many. Consents are easily taken, but whether or not they truly understand what they're gonna go through remains doubtful. Recreational diving is generally safe as there is acceptably adequate evidence from previous accumulated data which makes the dangers more predictable. To be more specific, it is up to the 20-22m mark only. In other words, diving safely up to those depths will almost guarantee no harm, but past those depths, no matter how safely you dive, with all the safety stops and added conservatisms, the risks are still assumed to be higher. Is it safe to dive at 20-22m mark? Recreational diving has caused deaths every year too. For me it is all about calculated risks and training. I think that certain technical diving is quite mature but for me I am too lazy to do the training and calculations. Did I mention the price tag? Scuba diving is still relatively 'uncharted territory'. There is insufficient evidence on many aspects of diving; for example the long term effects of diving on the body, thresholds of diving limits between people, the whole decompression theory itself etc. Unfortunately, the algorithms that define dive planners and comps are still 'models'. Bounce diving causes unacceptable DCS risks, yet it is allowed by some dive comps. With all that being said, aren't we all risk takers in the first place the moment we decided to dive? |
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Jul 23 2015, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(b5n111 @ Jul 22 2015, 08:00 PM) no no... you know me lah... I where got interested in extended dive wan... only reason I do deco dives is when I go really deep or wreck dives... happened a few times unplanned deco without stage tank..... so it would be good to do tec40 to know more about deco just in case..... |
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Jul 23 2015, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(beemaro @ Jul 23 2015, 12:05 AM) Went to dive concepts (owned by french guy) Cool bro..total how many dives u did at there? And total cash burn for diving how much bro..Day trip from seminyak, they picked me from hotel and send back each way 3 hrs! total cost is 1.2 mil rupiah It's best stay in tulamben area cause I went Bali with non divers Dived at drop off, coral garden and liberty Obvious liberty is best. Now is good weather to visit Bali with cool winter breeze from australia Sorry not much pic as using iPhone 4 + casing |
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Jul 23 2015, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(beemaro @ Jul 23 2015, 12:05 AM) Went to dive concepts (owned by french guy) GOING IN NOVEMBER WITH munkeyflo !!! SO EXCITED!!! Day trip from seminyak, they picked me from hotel and send back each way 3 hrs! total cost is 1.2 mil rupiah It's best stay in tulamben area cause I went Bali with non divers Dived at drop off, coral garden and liberty Obvious liberty is best. Now is good weather to visit Bali with cool winter breeze from australia Sorry not much pic as using iPhone 4 + casing |
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Jul 23 2015, 10:08 AM
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Jul 23 2015, 10:16 AM
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Jul 23 2015, 10:19 AM
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Jul 23 2015, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(b5n111 @ Jul 22 2015, 07:39 PM) Udive is the new dahop there right? Well organise n fun? yup, quite new, been there since beginning of this yearClean room, comfy bed? Mind sharing which resort? yep, slept soundly and peacefully, i forgot which resort, but it's the one nearest to udive, right next to the chinese restaurant opposite udive This post has been edited by pm_me_nasilemak: Jul 23 2015, 11:48 AM |
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Jul 23 2015, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jul 23 2015, 09:55 AM) QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jul 23 2015, 10:08 AM) Going NEXT Month!!! Tulamben - Amed - Nusa Penida - Manta Point - Blue Corner Sum up about ~7 million rupiah (~RM2000) for 8 dives over 3 days for 2 person (one person bout 3.6 million rupiah bout RM1k)... own equipment except 5mm wetsuit... everything included, pickup transfer, lunch bla bla bla... Cant wait to see my mola-mola... QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jul 23 2015, 10:19 AM) Another 31 days to go This post has been edited by ukiya: Jul 23 2015, 01:32 PM |
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Jul 23 2015, 01:39 PM
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Jul 23 2015, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(demetrius @ Jul 22 2015, 10:55 PM) I feel that tec diving confers risks that may not be acceptable to many. Consents are easily taken, but whether or not they truly understand what they're gonna go through remains doubtful. Recreational diving is generally safe as there is acceptably adequate evidence from previous accumulated data which makes the dangers more predictable. To be more specific, it is up to the 20-22m mark only. In other words, diving safely up to those depths will almost guarantee no harm, but past those depths, no matter how safely you dive, with all the safety stops and added conservatisms, the risks are still assumed to be higher. u gt some points there ...Scuba diving is still relatively 'uncharted territory'. There is insufficient evidence on many aspects of diving; for example the long term effects of diving on the body, thresholds of diving limits between people, the whole decompression theory itself etc. Unfortunately, the algorithms that define dive planners and comps are still 'models'. Bounce diving causes unacceptable DCS risks, yet it is allowed by some dive comps. With all that being said, aren't we all risk takers in the first place the moment we decided to dive? Diving is all about adventure and adventure comes with risks. And diver are trained to understand and cope with the risk when they taking up open water courses. |
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Jul 23 2015, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(ukiya @ Jul 22 2015, 01:38 PM) Yeah... They have to make sure individual are fit to take the challenge. Tec is not for everyone. But for anyone who interested to learn, they can give it a try. But again... all is in the mindset of an individual whether he/she wanna do it or not only. Have a calm mindset and think logically, everything may end well... Hints: Calm mindset... (about same like Free Diving) QUOTE(demetrius @ Jul 22 2015, 10:55 PM) I feel that tec diving confers risks that may not be acceptable to many. Consents are easily taken, but whether or not they truly understand what they're gonna go through remains doubtful........... QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Jul 23 2015, 09:06 AM) no no... you know me lah... I where got interested in extended dive wan... only reason I do deco dives is when I go really deep or wreck dives... happened a few times unplanned deco without stage tank..... so it would be good to do tec40 to know more about deco just in case..... One should have a valid reason to go Tec. (eg. wreck, cave) If it's just for the purpose of going deeper, IMHO it's just not worth the risk and wallet. Moreover, you will need to have a group of divers you frequent with who are willing to go the distance. It's somewhat a lonely road as you progress further up the qualification chart. Being here in Malaysia does not help with the situation either. Gears are more expensive, hard to come by and good Tec instructors are scarce. Is there any Tec diver in this forum? Do u guys have any info on any Tec community that is based here in Malaysia? |
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Jul 23 2015, 03:37 PM
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Jul 23 2015, 04:35 PM
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What is the most common regs that you guys use? I did some research on the internet and found that mk25/s600 is quite hot. Anyone uses A700? is it worth the upgrade from S600?
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Jul 23 2015, 05:13 PM
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Looks/Quality wise.. A700 wins..but in terms of performance.. i don't think can really tell the difference unless see results from lab test.
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Jul 23 2015, 05:13 PM
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*double post*
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