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post Jul 9 2015, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 9 2015, 01:11 PM)
Dafuq, where did these people get their history knowledge?
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Jul 9 2015, 01:12 PM)
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No lah, from their butthole obviously!
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truth: they were horny after months in open sea. they finally came to a beach where naked exotic native women frolicking in the water. Thus they came to tanah melayu to piap-piap
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 9 2015, 01:22 PM)
Crusader went protected holy land.

Melaka ada holy land ke?
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Crusades does not only involve the levant. The Teutonic crusades was directed at pagan Baltic states, while the Albigensian Crusade was conducted in France.

After the fall of the Ayyubid Egypt and the rise of the Mameluks which manage to defeat all existing Christian kingdoms in the Levant there's no more crusades sent to the Holy Land.

Melaka was part of the crusades against the Ottman Empire.
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Gold, Gospel & Glory in essence are the same = for Money
Gospel & Glory were used to justify pillaging very much the same way the religion and race card is raised to protect the status quo, i.e. umno so that Gold stays in their hand brows.gif

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jul 9 2015, 01:28 PM)
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All wars were/are of economic reasons though some, like the Crusades and the Jihad were given religious flavor.
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jul 9 2015, 01:28 PM)
No lah, from their butthole obviously!
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Some BTN educated history scholar already reporting in

Need to grab more popcorn
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jul 9 2015, 01:30 PM)
All wars were/are of economic reasons though some, like the Crusades and the Jihad were given religious flavor.
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At least victim complex make ppl feel better.
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Chinese retaliation against Portugal

The Malay Malacca Sultanate was a tributary state and ally to Ming Dynasty China. When Portugal conquered Malacca in 1511, the Chinese responded with violence against the Portuguese when Portugal sent the diplomatic ambassador, Tomé Pires in 1516. After Pires reached Beijing in 1520 the Chinese decided to arrest the embassy. The deposed Malaccan Sultan Mahmud Shah sent another message to China, and this time, China responded by executing the Portuguese diplomatic embassy.

The Chinese Imperial Government imprisoned and executed multiple Portuguese diplomatic envoys after torturing them in Guangzhou. The Malaccan envoys had informed the Chinese of the Portuguese seizure of Malacca, to which the Chinese responded with hostility toward the Portuguese. The Malaccans told the Chinese of the deception the Portuguese used, disguising plans for conquering territory as mere trading activities, and told of all the deprivations they had passed at the hands of the Portuguese.

Due to the Malaccan Sultan lodging a complaint against the Portuguese invasion to the Chinese Emperor, the Portuguese were greeted with hostility from the Chinese when they arrived in China. The Malaccan Sultan, based in Bintan after fleeing Malacca, sent a message to the Chinese, which combined with Portuguese banditry and violent activity in China, led the Chinese authorities to execute 23 Portuguese and torture the rest of them in jails. After the Portuguese set up posts for trading in China and committed piratical activities and raids in China, the Chinese responded with the complete extermination of the Portuguese in Ningbo and Quanzhou. Pires, a Portuguese trade envoy, was among those who died in the Chinese dungeons. While Pires was imprisoned by the Chinese, he wrote that his cause was that of the Catholic religion's Crusade against Islam and it was worth dying at the hands of the Chinese for his cause.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Ma...gainst_Portugal

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Portuguese invading were Crusade, then these invasions were?

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QUOTE(azrinrar @ Jul 9 2015, 01:32 PM)
Chinese retaliation against Portugal

The Malay Malacca Sultanate was a tributary state and ally to Ming Dynasty China. When Portugal conquered Malacca in 1511, the Chinese responded with violence against the Portuguese when Portugal sent the diplomatic ambassador, Tomé Pires in 1516. After Pires reached Beijing in 1520 the Chinese decided to arrest the embassy. The deposed Malaccan Sultan Mahmud Shah sent another message to China, and this time, China responded by executing the Portuguese diplomatic embassy.

The Chinese Imperial Government imprisoned and executed multiple Portuguese diplomatic envoys after torturing them in Guangzhou. The Malaccan envoys had informed the Chinese of the Portuguese seizure of Malacca, to which the Chinese responded with hostility toward the Portuguese. The Malaccans told the Chinese of the deception the Portuguese used, disguising plans for conquering territory as mere trading activities, and told of all the deprivations they had passed at the hands of the Portuguese.

Due to the Malaccan Sultan lodging a complaint against the Portuguese invasion to the Chinese Emperor, the Portuguese were greeted with hostility from the Chinese when they arrived in China. The Malaccan Sultan, based in Bintan after fleeing Malacca, sent a message to the Chinese, which combined with Portuguese banditry and violent activity in China, led the Chinese authorities to execute 23 Portuguese and torture the rest of them in jails. After the Portuguese set up posts for trading in China and committed piratical activities and raids in China, the Chinese responded with the complete extermination of the Portuguese in Ningbo and Quanzhou. Pires, a Portuguese trade envoy, was among those who died in the Chinese dungeons. While Pires was imprisoned by the Chinese, he wrote that his cause was that of the Catholic religion's Crusade against Islam and it was worth dying at the hands of the Chinese for his cause.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_Ma...gainst_Portugal

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Nope,Nothing mentioned there about Crusades.
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