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desmond2020
post Jul 9 2015, 01:11 PM

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Dafuq, where did these people get their history knowledge?
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post Jul 9 2015, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jul 9 2015, 01:28 PM)
No lah, from their butthole obviously!
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Some BTN educated history scholar already reporting in

Need to grab more popcorn
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post Jul 9 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(hippihippo @ Jul 9 2015, 01:34 PM)
Portuguese invading were Crusade, then these invasions were?

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post Jul 9 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jul 9 2015, 01:37 PM)
Blame the baba and nyonya lol.
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Didn't LGE and LKS was born in malacca?
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post Jul 9 2015, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jul 9 2015, 01:38 PM)
and the reference from that wiki itself quoted:
Mohd Fawzi bin Mohd Basri; Mohd Fo'ad bin Sakdan; Azami bin Man (2002). Kurikulum Bersepadu Sekolah Menengah Sejarah Tingkatan 1. Kuala Lumpur: Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka. p. 95. ISBN 983-62-7410-3. biggrin.gif
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They are respected history scholar

What they write must be the truth
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:14 PM

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Holy cow, hangpc dan masuk
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 9 2015, 02:13 PM)
Of course Soloman la.

you can blame heckline for turning everything upside down, next in line would be this aliesterfiend.
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Musa or Abraham?
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(YellowKingValley @ Jul 9 2015, 02:14 PM)
Gold, God and Glory. Crusade (God) is just ONE OF the reasons.

Teaching it as the only reason (MOE) or saying that it is not a reason (detractors) is stupid. Malaysians are stupid.
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To spread gospel, yes.

To continue crusade? Gotta be kidding me?
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 9 2015, 02:17 PM)
You mean Moses came first or Musa came first?

You mean Abraham came first or Ibrahim came first?

One thing for sure, Moses and Abraham would give you the face of WTF if you call them Musa and Ibrahim.
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My bad, mess up the name


But they would say their scripture is untempered version
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post Jul 9 2015, 03:13 PM

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Too much weed here
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post Jul 9 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jul 9 2015, 03:13 PM)
the people at moe should play more europa universalis. only the pope could call for crusades.
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To these people, even recent Iraq invasion can be considered as crusade by USA
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post Jul 9 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(hammer2014 @ Jul 9 2015, 03:17 PM)
Not really. The statement is not entirely untrue. Just not accurate.

The Gomen is trying to frame the colonialism of Malacca by western powers as a religious act first for their political reasons.

The truth is, the Europens want money first and convert the infidels second.

It is all about the money.
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But to call it a crusade is just mind blowing
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post Jul 9 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(tdzheng @ Jul 9 2015, 03:21 PM)
It's too far to call it a crusade, but it's absolute fact that the Portuguese wanted to convert the local population into Catholics
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It is clear that European countries that time want to spread gospel

But to call it as crusade, meh.
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post Jul 9 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(tdzheng @ Jul 9 2015, 03:28 PM)
Crusade stopped after they sacked Byzantium, during Portuguese conquering malacca, there was no unified Christian agenda. Hence why Spain get America, and Portugal get the other side of the map. Else there would b open war between these two countries
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Pope just want two of his remaining loyal Catholic country to make peace.

But Portugal use superior geography knowledge to trick huge chunk of South America, Brazil from Spain. This teach us that knowledge is important and


Don't always look at rear view mirror and engage in self serving fantasy of past glory.
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post Jul 9 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(learn2earn8 @ Jul 9 2015, 05:45 PM)
they all exhibit the same behaviour when I jus want 1answer/1jawapan, the future of msia is so bright and sunni  laugh.gif
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same kind of people that cook up ancient malay pyramid at bottom of Japan Sea

nothing surprise me anymore.
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post Jul 10 2015, 05:07 PM

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Wow, a Muslim preach about Christianity after some googling lol


Anyway, back to topic of our retarded moe that change history as what they see is fit.

Shall we?
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post Jul 11 2015, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(allanlee89 @ Jul 11 2015, 09:07 AM)
WTF, who go report my reply. come out u punk, fight me in real world, i m waiting u. i bet u cant even lift 40kg...ptuih
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Lol, must be culiban at work
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post Jul 11 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 11 2015, 12:46 PM)
As explained in Post #408.

The Purpose of the Law was designed to show up sin in us.
The More you try to fulfill it, the more you'll end, unable to keep it.

The Bible calls it a Ministry of death.

And Because there is Sin, There is Judgement in the Old Testament.
Man had to pay the price for every Sin committed.

God is a Holy God. He will not let sin go unpunished.
This is a given, no need to argue, Even by Today's standard we want Wrong Doers to be punished by the court of Law. Thieves, Robbers, Songlap etc.
That is why There is such a mess in the OT. You know why?

Because Man asked for it.

So when people quote the OT, saying "see there's so much killing in the OT, Murdering, your God is a killing God..... They don't understand the context of the whole Story, why things happened the way it happened in the OT.

For the longest time, opponent of Christians always uses the OT to try and discredit Christianity. Today I can tell you, that is debunked.
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hey bro, no need to explain to him lah

obviously he is not a believer as he trying to justifying his so called faith with logic and science. A truly reborn man will not think that bible or part of bible make not sense.





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