Just wondering...why did you sold the GTX980Ti before?

980ti reference under water.
3dmark max 46c <3 so much better

errr...you water cool it or put it "under" the water?

care to give pics or how to do?

errr...you water cool it or put it "under" the water?

care to give pics or how to do?

i thought everyone saying like this also? under air/under water = air cooling/water cooling

Thinking of watercool my gtx980ti, our ringgit so low the block +backplate nearly cost RM700

Short answer:
Nickel plated blocks are slightly more corosion resistant.

Long answer:
As stated nickel is corrosion resistant. Also as stated copper is the best option for a heat sink. Nickel plated copper blocks do only have a thin layer of nickel.

The major benefit of a nickel plated copper water block is that if the surface to be mounted against the cpu is nickel plated it will most certainly be mirror smooth and will allow the thermal grease to flow without entrapping air bubbles. A non plated block could also be polished on the mating surface but will tarnish upon exposure to air so it would have to be done immediately before mounting and any buffing compound would have to be removed.

For corrosion resistance of an uncoated copper water block you could simply use some clear coat on the externally exposed copper except for the mating surface. Assuming you don't have large quantities of dissimilar metals in your system internal corrosion wouldn't be an issue. Keep in mind that any two dissimilar metals in contact or in the presence of the same electrolyte(A liquid which supports the flow of electrons) will incur a galvanic reaction. Most water based solutions are an electrlyte to some extent especially when you factor in contaminants.

If I were to design a small scale cooling system I would use all copper and solder which is meant for it to limit corrosion. Silver is a natural anti-microbial and would inhibit mould growth. Many potable copper pipe solders are silver bearing. The use of an automobile heater core which would be almost all copper would be perfect as a radiator. Standard car coolant of 50/50 mix would be fine as a coolant.

sifu wanna ask, what is the different between Acetal+Nickel waterblock and just the Acetal waterblock? i read it is the same performance is it true? do i need the anti corrosion coolant?

and on ek website, it says the block designed to accommodate a weak pump, so if i want to cool just my gc, suffice for me to get the cheapest and weakest pump right?

thanks in advance

Even liquid with a corrosion inhibitor won't last long. You'll likely be changing coolant very often. It's best not to use them together at all.

The most damage would be to the aluminum radiator, not so much the block (which is unfortunate, because you can't see the damage inside the rad). Eventually, you'll probably end up with pinhole leaks in your rad.

I'd recommend getting a copper radiator or a nickel plated block..... or a lot of anti-corrosive liquid.

Liquid usually turns into a milky color when corrosion is occurring in your loop.

There is no difference really.

Nickel plated and full nickel are the same thing just worded differently.
Acetal is a type of plastic that the top is made of, it will either be acrylic or acetal.

EN nickel is a newer type of nickel plating that EK uses and is supposed to reduce the likeliness of the nickel flaking.

Copper and nickel are almost the same chemically so there isn't any problem mixing them.

EK only sells EN nickel now as they had some major problems with the nickel plating flaking off.

Some people will say not to use EK due to the nickel flaking problems which still seems to happen sometimes with the EN but I have had no problems with mine (running since May)

Distilled water is water that has many of its impurities removed through distillation. Distillation involves boiling the water and then condensing the steam into a clean container.

so much info! thanks a lot! now i think i have more confidence in starting water cooled setup

lol i dont care about my cpu (well actually i do but less then my gpu) coz i could buy an aio for it and forget about it for at least a year...

but for my gpu...it is hard to make it cool (it is cool and hot at the same time if you catch my drift    ) coz a complete water cooled setup will require a maintenance which im too lazy to do...so i guess the easiest path is aio with the gpu bracket like kraken g10 or evga hybrid solution.

all in all, i hope malaysia will get snow soon so i could oc my gpu to crazy level with stock cooler lol.

The day Malaysia gets snow is when the world will perish... logically and scientifically speaking.

But on a more on-topic note, I don't know where the assumption comes from if snow = super low temps for PC? Okay sure, definitely lower than in hot countries but the perception of living in a cold country and having low temps on PC is wrong. I stayed in the US during winter, several times. Guess what? We have to turn on the heaters.

The house is actually dryer and hotter with the heaters than in Malaysia where you'd just have the fan on instead. Ironic? Yeah.

Don't turn on the heaters? Well, if you enjoy wearing 3 layers of clothes, then be my guest.
Also, one of the main reason for going water is for looks. I don't know why people found it pleasing to have 2 AIOs in their system, it's so tacky and n00bish looking. I mean, I'm not trying to even sound like a snob here but it is what it is. Might as well just optimize for air cooling instead, because good air cooling is nearly as effective as AIOs (in some cases, even better), cost less and guess what? It won't break (where as AIOs will, just read up the numerous amount of stories about AIOs dying prematurely).

weird how nvidia gpu is performing different on linux and windows
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=arti...n10-linux&num=2
*short story

play game only on windows lel
i'd spend my buck on pc, gpu, hdds, etc etc.... water cooling really is the last resort when you run out of things to upgrade. that and mkb 

i understand the temptation of the bling, but in all honestly the primary concern should be the temp. just run a few temp program to track your cpu and gpu temps. if it goes 70-80+ should really go water cooling for sure :]

or even the sound issue. for me this was important :}

sir, i am a NOOB and my chassis is mitx type so i dont care about the internal looks 

errr...i thought it is normal to turn on the heater during winter? because outside is cold and you want the warmth inside the house. Well yeah the wishing for the snow to cool the rig are plain stupid so I apologise for that lol.

I dont know about the AIO dying prematurely, never occurred to me thank god for that but I still favored the AIO coz the simpleness and troubled free (again this may varied).

Again, this is my current opinion, maybe will change later 

The house is actually dryer and hotter with the heaters than in Malaysia where you'd just have the fan on instead. Ironic? Yeah.

There are 3 main reasons for water, temps obviously, looks and noise.

There are 3 main reasons for water, temps obviously, looks and noise.

I personally don't like AIOs at all. They're inconsistent, could either be noisy, look terrible, or just like I said... prematurely fail without you knowing.
That's why I said if AIO is the last resort for lower temps, that I do not agree at all. A very well optimized case for airflow and airblow is just as good as AIOs, if not better (the latter, if you bring cost into the discussion).
Keep those fingers crossed. I'm not trying to hate on AIOs, but when I open up and see how low quality the stuff are in there, it cringes me when people go around and say AIOs are awesome. They didn't even know what they paid for. AIO isn't even leak-proof to begin with, yet it is being marketed as being so...?

Good that your AIO has not died. But just keep an eye on it when you start hearing the pump squeel. Have seen several systems died because of a failed AIO and the system was left running at very high temps for a long period of time.

At the top of the pack are a pair of water-cooled cards. The GTX 980 Ti HYBRID uses a closed loop water cooler with a 120 mm radiator and retains the cooling fan to keep the rest of the card cool, similar to the solution used for AMD's R9 295x2. EVGA claimed the hybrid cooler significantly lowers GPU temperatures.

Also announced is a Hydro Copper edition with dedicated water block that includes G1/4 threads for use with standard water cooling fittings.

There are 3 main reasons for water, temps obviously, looks and noise.

I personally don't like AIOs at all. They're inconsistent, could either be noisy, look terrible, or just like I said... prematurely fail without you knowing.
That's why I said if AIO is the last resort for lower temps, that I do not agree at all. A very well optimized case for airflow and airblow is just as good as AIOs, if not better (the latter, if you bring cost into the discussion).
Keep those fingers crossed. I'm not trying to hate on AIOs, but when I open up and see how low quality the stuff are in there, it cringes me when people go around and say AIOs are awesome. They didn't even know what they paid for. AIO isn't even leak-proof to begin with, yet it is being marketed as being so...?

Good that your AIO has not died. But just keep an eye on it when you start hearing the pump squeel. Have seen several systems died because of a failed AIO and the system was left running at very high temps for a long period of time.