i didn't know picking also got technique. All i did last time was to use the pick whenever i play rhythm. That's it. I'll use my fingers during plucking or any other time.

That was what my teacher first taught me, i could play without looking at the strings then.

There are alot of picking techniques, just do research on them. The most common and famous one is the alternate pick nuff said

and is the circular motion like Beck style on one string?

Now i'm working on sweep picking(not really progressing yet)
still doing some simple patterns like
12---------------------------13
---13---------------------14
-----14-----------------15
-------15------------14
---------14-------13
-----------13--12

over and over

well, if u're not serious and love all the extra fancy fancy features, line 6 UX1 is the way. however i think m-audio do make better audio interfaces resulting in better recordings. all without the fancy features that comes with ux1/ux2. however, it depends on what suits you.

as for me i would love to have a firewire audio interface by m-audio. know anyone selling second hand ones? however, if the price is right, line 6 UX1 and UX2 arent bad too. if im not mistaken someone selling off his UX2 for rm550 (but that was quite a while ago).

blacktrix, seriously, the kb37 isnt as good as i initially hoped for. the midi controller is really clumsy. plus, all u get is some keyboard keys. u'll be much better off using that amount of money getting a UX1 and then a midi controller.

and if u're really really into midi controllers, u can check out the AXIOM series by m-audio. keyboards, knobs, 2 wheels(pitch and modulation) plus 8 touch sensitive pads!!!! no faders though. plus its built like a freakin tank compared to other controllers in the market(including previous m-audio ones). the 25 key one is rm900 i think. sadly, its not small enough to slide into a backpack like my current oxygen 8v2. if i had rm900 before getting my oxygen, i wouldve gotten the axiom. now, i still have to get a m-audio finger trigger. if i manage to, then i would have alot more buttons and stuff to play with compared to an axiom.

hey guys, this discussion shouldnt be in this forum. this is the guitar spam forum.

edit: i dont think kb37 is that expensive, coz 1.2k is the price when it first got out.

This post has been edited by echobrainproject: Feb 22 2007, 01:28 AM

Chromatic sweeps =D

My advice in tacking Sweep Techniques is by first working on 1 string, then 2, then 3 and slowly move to 6 or 7 string sweeps.

and when working on sweeps you should seperate your left and right first. geting your left to hit each notes hard and clear so each note can be heard clearly and no over tones and your right hand being able to reach a staccato like sound when sweeping for your right isntead of a strum. then put them together. This is how i usually tackle sweeps

i started out doing 3 string runs then slowly increase now i'm on 6 string runs, haven't moved on to adding hammer-ons and pull offs yet, wanna get the coordination right first

Oh btw, one more thing about picking. Im sure you veterans know this, but for those beginners, heres an important thing i must emphasize on. RELAX your hand when playing! especially fast licks. the more relaxed you are, the better coordination you have. I've to endure hours and hours of sitting down in front of the tv and playing the same alternate picking lick over and over again till i get the technique right(though now im lazy! )

must be some good pron on your tv

yea relax your left. . no matter how hard you press your left the volume and tone will still be the same(up to a certain degree)

tone and volume and attack is actually based on your right hand, how you pick the note.

pressing to hard may even increase your note by 1/2 step lolz. . .

If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by overtones? Like when you tap a note on the 12th fret with your left hand and when you lift your finger, there's a harmonic-like sound?

overtones are like tones over tones? haha i dunno how explain but i can give examples. when performing pinch harmonics you're eliminating the note and just letting the overtone ring. or like randy blythe from lamb of god when he reaches high notes he uses overtones to get there(cant really do it yet)

I just checked the almighty Wiki , and it says that overtones are basically harmonics. Or something like that... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtones)

I think I'm starting to understand what Equilibrium777 is talking about... sometimes if I sloppily tap a note with my left hand, the harmonic sounds instead of the actual note. ...then again, I may be completely off the mark...



...argh, I think the hardest part about sweeping is the left-hand muting...

If I'm playing an ascending arpeggio, I can rely on me trusty right-hand to mute the lower strings as I ascend. But for descending arpeggios, I gotta rely on me not-so-trusty left hand to mute the higher strings as I descend. And as a result there's usually way too much noise in my descending arpeggios.

...and no, valkyrie1232, I will not back off on my gain knob, since it goes to 11!...

Tones over tones?... I like that. Simple words, and does describe what overtones are basically.

QUOTED from Perfect Pitch handbook (Just sharing some further info).

"Overtones are faint tones produced when a basic pitch is sounded.

Take a piano for example. When a string is sounded, it vibrates back and forth right? But did you know that each string also vibrates in halves, thirds, fourths, ad infinitum? These subtler vibrations cause faint overtones. So when you play C, you're not just playing C; countless overtones are also sounding, and you can hear some if you listen closely.

Try this experiment on any instrument: Using C as a starting point, play the G that is eleven scale tones higher. Listen to this G and get this pitch in you ear.

Now, play your C, but listen instead for the G. Let your ear relax into the sound, and soon you may be surprised to clearly hear the G - while you play the C! This G is an overtone of C, and remember, it will be much fainter"

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 22 2007, 03:25 PM

Just came back from Bents.
Drooling all over the JCM800. Careful when you touch it. That wet part could be my drool.

Also, wallet damn itchy for the Digitech Whammy. RM998...... sigh......

And they said they are NOT bringing in the Zakk Wylde Microstack.
The original Microstack was selling for RM1250. SOoooooooo tempted to whip out the credit card..... but will save up for the CeriaTone JCM800 instead.
sigh..... I'm REALLY working for this one man......

@ rust reaver: yeah same problem here when i go descending its very messy.

can you guys sing and play at the same time?

i can sing a little, very teeny tiny little

i can play chords and sing a little bit but when the strumming pattern changes my singing goes wayy off. and don't start on plucking and singing

Depends on the song....... War Pigs damn easy!

i can sing "When you say nothing at all"