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sean392
post Nov 12 2006, 07:15 PM

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hey guys
is it possible to change a 22fret guitar into a 24 fret??

i think its a matter of ripping of the fret board n putting a new one right??
then putting the fretwire n inlays

ignoring cost its possible aight?
pretty expensive to right?
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post Nov 12 2006, 07:25 PM

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It is very possible but two things that need to be taken into account.

First being most 21-22frets guitars' cutaway will not be deep enough for you to reach the 24th fret (noticed how 24frets guitars have a much deeper cutaway compared to the standard strat?)

And lastly, the extended fretboard will cover your neck pickup.
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post Nov 12 2006, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 12 2006, 07:25 PM)
It is very possible but two things that need to be taken into account.

First being most 21-22frets guitars' cutaway will not be deep enough for you to reach the 24th fret (noticed how 24frets guitars have a much deeper cutaway compared to the standard strat?)

And lastly, the extended fretboard will cover your neck pickup.
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hmmm
if its a 25.5" scale guitar?
say a V
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post Nov 12 2006, 09:00 PM

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The scale length has nothing to do with it though with a shorter scale length, the shorter the distance will be between the frets and this might make the last few quite hard to fret.

A longer or shorter scale length doesn't change the fact the neck pickup was first routed for a 22 fret neck. The cutaway on a V was never that great and with 24 fret it will only be worse.


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post Nov 12 2006, 09:53 PM

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I can back that up. Testing out anything over fret 20 on the RR3 just plain sucked.
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post Nov 12 2006, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 12 2006, 09:53 PM)
I can back that up. Testing out anything over fret 20 on the RR3 just plain sucked.
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I think being a bolt on adds to that though I have seen the heel of the neckthrough ones in videos and it doesn't look very accessible too. Those on neckthrough Ibanez on the other hand, they might as well call it heelless.

But it is no problem for you dude thumbup.gif

If you can solo on anything past the 15 fret of an LP you can solo on anything else.

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post Nov 12 2006, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 12 2006, 10:03 PM)
I think being a bolt on adds to that though I have seen the heel of the neckthrough ones in videos and it doesn't look very accessible too. Those on neckthrough Ibanez on the other hand, they might as well call it heelless.

But it is no problem for you dude thumbup.gif

If you can solo on anything past the 15 fret of an LP you can solo on anything else.
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Indeed i've to agree! its still one of the hardest necks to play when trying to solo above the 17th fret or so(its second to claptons V neck and too jeff becks super thick neck)
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post Nov 12 2006, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 12 2006, 10:39 AM)
The OFR is a direct drop in replacement. An OFR retrofits a LoTRS on an Ibanez without any modification and I don't see why it wouldn't be same on the RR3.
well, but the distance between the posts lengths might be different.
its pretty obvious that the design of the trems are different, there is no groove on the left side of the JT580 for the post to fit into, rather just a straight edge just like the ibanez trems.
so jackson for all you know could always move the left post a mm either side, preventing OFR's from fitting in without modding.

btw, just got this today from cash converters.
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shadow electric w/ hardcase, made in germany.
schaller trem, schaller tuners, the famed shadow EQ-5 active pickups.

spent about 30mins taking it apart tongue.gif
the trem knife edges are not worn out at all, but mostly got it for the pickups.
i have some work to do on it to bring it up to playable condition, but nothing hard.

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post Nov 12 2006, 10:48 PM

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with all the craze on the rr3, anyone knows the price for Alexi laiho's guitar and where i can get them?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 12 2006, 10:23 PM)
well, but the distance between the posts lengths might be different.
its pretty obvious that the design of the trems are different, there is no groove on the left side of the JT580 for the post to fit into, rather just a straight edge just like the ibanez trems.
so jackson for all you know could always move the left post a mm either side, preventing OFR's from fitting in without modding.

btw, just got this today from cash converters.
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shadow electric w/ hardcase, made in germany.
schaller trem, schaller tuners, the famed shadow EQ-5 active pickups.

spent about 30mins taking it apart tongue.gif
the trem knife edges are not worn out at all, but mostly got it for the pickups.
i have some work to do on it to bring it up to playable condition, but nothing hard.
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As different as the design is, still based on the OFR. I know what you mean but the right side has groove so it will sit proper in the stud and it has been proven that the OFR retrofits LoTRS and JT580 route without issues. Though if Blacktrix absolutely wants to be sure he should measure the distance between the two stud on the RR3.

Cool guitar, how much you paid for it?
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Nov 12 2006, 10:48 PM)
with all the craze on the rr3, anyone knows the price for Alexi laiho's guitar and where i can get them?
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You can find the LTD version in Guitar Collection Mid Valley. RM6k+++

I rather get the Edwards version from ishibashi. 90,000 yen before shipping.

I am currently saving hard to get it next year. thumbup.gif

I am such a fanboy I don't mind the single pickup.
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have to do a major cleanup of it which im abit lazy to now.
and the idiot who had it before had that big thin metal piece between the trem and block on backwards.
havent checked the bridge posts for wear yet, cheap to replace if worn out anyway.
as long as the trem edges are in good condition.

another guitar where the cost of the parts are worth more.

cant find much info on them online.
only these.
apparently Shadow guitars were handmade, and pretty expensive when released, and due to the high costs Shadow stopped making guitars in 1994.
the neck apparently is similar to the ibanez wizard.

but that one i dont care, its the pickups, Shadow sells brand new for Euro140.

Electric guitar humbucker with built in 5-band equalizer. 7 trim-pots on top of the pickup adjust the input level, master gain and 5-band E.Q.. Active E.Q. circuit can be switched on or off and can be used to E.Q. other passive pickups in the guitar. Humbucker is fully shielded and has four conductor output for all wiring possibilities.

now i need to get a manual from Shadow on how to on or off and use it for other passive pickups tongue.gif

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Alexi Laiho's LTD is hanging in MidValley's Guitar Collection....... 6K++
Thought of it, but need a double pickup option...... that's why went for the RR3. Also, had 2Vol and 1 Tone which I love already pre-wired.......

And as for that Shadow guitar............ super buy man. Congrats on your purchase......
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im gonna see what i can do with those shadow pickups.
its one that i've always wanted to try from a long time ago, just never saw one.
maybe the schaller trem can be a backup for my SG.

and why you want double pickup option? the JB pickup can be coil split.
and you can install a killswitch if you really want it tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2006, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 12 2006, 11:29 PM)
RM699.
have to do a major cleanup of it which im abit lazy to now.
and the idiot who had it before had that big thin metal piece between the trem and block on backwards.
havent checked the bridge posts for wear yet, cheap to replace if worn out anyway.
as long as the trem edges are in good condition.

another guitar where the cost of the parts are worth more.

cant find much info on them online.
only these.
apparently Shadow guitars were handmade, and pretty expensive when released, and due to the high costs Shadow stopped making guitars in 1994.
the neck apparently is similar to the ibanez wizard.

but that one i dont care, its the pickups, Shadow sells brand new for Euro140.

Electric guitar humbucker with built in 5-band equalizer. 7 trim-pots on top of the pickup adjust the input level, master gain and 5-band E.Q.. Active E.Q. circuit can be switched on or off and can be used to E.Q. other passive pickups in the guitar. Humbucker is fully shielded and has four conductor output for all wiring possibilities.

now i need to get a manual from Shadow on how to on or off and use it for other passive pickups tongue.gif
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Man, why can't I find great deals in cash converters here? All they have here are crappy cheap guitars at ridiculous price or decent guitars at even more ridiculous prices.
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post Nov 12 2006, 11:41 PM

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y are we never lucky like u to stumble upon gems that cost obliviously low???
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well, a couple months ago there was a gibson LP standard, i think a '92 at cash converters.
they placed a price of RM5k on it, couple weeks ago i asked a guy there how much it sold for...
he told me RM3200...
dunno if he was crapping or not.

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post Nov 12 2006, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 12 2006, 11:43 PM)
well, a couple months ago there was a gibson LP standard, i think a '92 at cash converters.
they placed a price of RM5k on it, couple weeks ago i asked a guy there how much it sold for...
he told me RM3200...
dunno if he was crapping or not.
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wheres this cash converters?
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post Nov 12 2006, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 12 2006, 11:43 PM)
well, a couple months ago there was a gibson LP standard, i think a '92 at cash converters.
they placed a price of RM5k on it, couple weeks ago i asked a guy there how much it sold for...
he told me RM3200...
dunno if he was crapping or not.
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Must be a fake LP, if it is one thing they know, they know the value of Gibson and Fender.

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