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post Jul 27 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 27 2015, 10:14 AM)
Market or index =/= Fund

If the index goes up and up and up and up, yeah correction may be due.

But if index yo-yo but fund goes up and up and up, the fund manager is doing a good job buying undervalued stocks and dumping overvalued stocks (repeat this over and over and over and over the years)

This is the simplistic view of things. wink.gif
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Jul 27 2015, 10:31 AM)
hmm.gif didn't think of that in that perspective. icic... hmm.gif 

is there any chance a fund still do good, while global bear is ongoing?
Fund manager have to be very picky about what they pick i think .  hmm.gif
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I stand corrected but my understanding is this.....

A fund manager may want to buy when the market is down and the stocks are undervalued. But if there is not enough cash reserve and the investors in the fund are doing panic selling, then the fund manager will have no choice but to sell even if she wanted to hold on to the shares and buy more undervalued shares.

I wonder how the fund manager juggle the above scenario.
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post Jul 27 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 27 2015, 10:36 AM)
Don't need to look far...

Not to say I boasting...just to prove a point... notworthy.gif

Past 1 year plus KLSE churned out negative annual return... doh.gif

But my stocks portfolio gave me 18% annualised return for the past 3 years wink.gif
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Ini orang main penny-stock / small cap punye!

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post Jul 27 2015, 03:02 PM

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China Stocks Sink Most Since 2007 as State-Induced Calm Shatters
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ustrial-profits

Panic selling to continue?
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 27 2015, 02:57 PM)
Ini orang main penny-stock / small cap punye!

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Not really penny, just stocks that typical institutional investors/large cap UTs usually won't look at.

And u will be surprised to see that I'm getting annualised return of >10% on a few of my REITs wink.gif
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post Jul 27 2015, 03:35 PM

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Next month end only enter euro. Hopefully not too late. haha. Waiting my moolah.

Current Holdings:
Kenanga Growth
Cimb APAC Dynamic Income
EI Small Cap MY
--->Next Target---> TA Euro

Spreading out ....
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:15 PM

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China stocks tumble, suffer biggest one-day loss in 8 years sweat.gif
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Chinese shares tumbled more than 8 percent on Monday amid renewed fears about the outlook for the world's No. 2 economy, reviving the spectre of a full-blown market crash that prompted unprecedented government intervention earlier this month.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...mble/?style=biz
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 27 2015, 04:15 PM)
China stocks tumble, suffer biggest one-day loss in 8 years  sweat.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...mble/?style=biz
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China is menstruating
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sure a lot of retailers there got burn sweat.gif
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Jul 27 2015, 04:39 PM)
China is menstruating
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And what will happen after that? brows.gif

Fertile window...shoot inside, Happy Father's Day tongue.gif

So, who's shooting now? rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 27 2015, 04:45 PM

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Shanghai Composite-8.48%
China – Market closed

Hang Seng-3.07%
Hong Kong – Market closed

Nikkei-0.95%
Japan – Market closed
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post Jul 27 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 27 2015, 10:36 AM)
Don't need to look far...

Not to say I boasting...just to prove a point... notworthy.gif

Past 1 year plus KLSE churned out negative annual return... doh.gif

But my stocks portfolio gave me 18% annualised return for the past 3 years wink.gif
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I also got +12% return (excluding dividend) last year rclxm9.gif
This year likely to be less sad.gif
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post Jul 27 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 27 2015, 04:44 PM)
And what will happen after that? brows.gif

Fertile window...shoot inside, Happy Father's Day tongue.gif

So, who's shooting now? rolleyes.gif
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shot already. topped up all funds last night. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Nauts @ Jul 27 2015, 04:45 PM)
Shanghai Composite-8.48%
China – Market closed

Hang Seng-3.07%
Hong Kong – Market closed

Nikkei-0.95%
Japan – Market closed
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post Jul 27 2015, 05:39 PM

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I know I'm late, but still, WA laoooOO Shanghai index drop 8.5%.

Anyway, probably most of the sifus here has already anticipated this kinda avalanche coming somewhere, somehow.



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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 27 2015, 05:54 PM)
S&P keeps Malaysia's A- sovereign rating, outlook stable
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/s...le?type=Markets
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And MYR hit 17-years low! rclxms.gif
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Portfolio IRR < 3% cry.gif

Tomorrow will be more bloody!
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2015, 10:25 PM)
Personally, i think the Platinum thinggy is useless.
I mean, if i have 750K to invest at "one place", U'd think i'd be better informed and have ways to do ETFs right?
ETFs with lower upfront cost and yearly costs.

IF FSM wants to encourage people to really go for Platinum,
do lar 0.5% or even 1% entry cost / service charge (average now 2%)
AND 0.88% yearly costs (average now being 1.75%+/-)
That's a simple half of the current average costs.

Until then, i'm still plonking mostly into ETFs these days,
just shuffling around my holdings in FSM & perhaps EPF investments since can't do direct stocks liao since May/June.

Just a thought  notworthy.gif
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Our Ringgit is so bad I'm reluctant to TT any new fund to TDA except moving my stocks given by company to TDA and sell options on it. Hoping for pullback on USD for a chance to do that.
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QUOTE(Nauts @ Jul 27 2015, 04:45 PM)
Shanghai Composite-8.48%
China – Market closed

Hang Seng-3.07%
Hong Kong – Market closed

Nikkei-0.95%
Japan – Market closed
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topped 500RM liao on Friday. lolz sweat.gif doh.gif rclxub.gif
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