Fundsupermart.com v11, Grexit or not, Europe will sail on...
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 Sep 10 2015, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 10 2015, 11:15 AM)  My credit strength allows me to borrow at FD + 2% I issue bond at 3% + 2% = 5% That bond matures in 10 years Tomorrow FD rate drops to 2% By right I can borrow at 4% now But the holder of the bond still enjoys 5% (1% excess) interest payment for 10 years  |
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Sep 10 2015, 11:44 AM
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Relationship Between Bonds & Interest Rates
https://www.wellsfargoadvantagefunds.com/wf...bonds/rates.jsp How Do Interest Rate Changes Affect Bond Prices? http://www.abcsofinvesting.net/how-do-inte...ct-bond-prices/ Why do interest rates tend to have an inverse relationship with bond prices? http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/04/031904.asp How Do Interest Rates Affect Bonds? http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4912953_inter...fect-bonds.html This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 10 2015, 11:44 AM |
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Sep 10 2015, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 10 2015, 11:40 AM) ohh means ur bond value higher(ROI is higher) if FD drop, but only if u sell to other ppl la right? I think bond fund and bond concept is abit different.. When bond value rise, your bond fund NAV naik lor  |
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Sep 10 2015, 12:07 PM
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303 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Kurau Stone
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 10 2015, 10:14 AM) Relationship Between Bonds & Interest Rates Superb https://www.wellsfargoadvantagefunds.com/wf...bonds/rates.jsp How Do Interest Rate Changes Affect Bond Prices? http://www.abcsofinvesting.net/how-do-inte...ct-bond-prices/ Why do interest rates tend to have an inverse relationship with bond prices? http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/04/031904.asp How Do Interest Rates Affect Bonds? http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4912953_inter...fect-bonds.html |
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Sep 10 2015, 01:10 PM
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10,859 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 10 2015, 11:54 AM) When bond value rise, your bond fund NAV naik lor okok jangan geram  thanks for all the sharing ya |
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Sep 10 2015, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 10 2015, 11:15 AM) My credit strength allows me to borrow at FD + 2% I issue bond at 3% + 2% = 5% That bond matures in 10 years Tomorrow FD rate drops to 2% By right I can borrow at 4% now But the holder of the bond still enjoys 5% (1% excess) interest payment for 10 years FD rate = 2% => investors' expected yield for bond = 4% yield lower = price higher |
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Sep 10 2015, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 10 2015, 02:39 PM) How about this explanation? lowering of current interest will make outstanding bonds more attractiveFD rate = 2% => investors' expected yield for bond = 4% yield lower = price higher |
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Sep 10 2015, 06:21 PM
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wow many of my funds turned green after quite a while today
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Sep 10 2015, 10:10 PM
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IRR at all-time high...7.2%
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Sep 10 2015, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 10 2015, 11:54 AM) When bond value rise, your bond fund NAV naik lor The yield will become less attractive when the higher priced bond mature... |
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Sep 11 2015, 05:46 AM
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Big profit after checking my portfolio performance.. Hehe
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Sep 11 2015, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Sep 10 2015, 06:21 PM) wow many of my funds turned green after quite a while today yeah, over few days porfolio can increase by 7k.... roller coaster ride..up and down is damn fast. |
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Sep 11 2015, 09:35 AM
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303 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Kurau Stone
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 11 2015, 07:32 AM) yeah, over few days porfolio can increase by 7k.... roller coaster ride.. Good hint on how much one^s invested ;pup and down is damn fast. |
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Sep 11 2015, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Sep 11 2015, 09:35 AM) Good hint on how much one^s invested ;p Biggest few days gain I've ever experienced is only 2K+/-. That guy sure is a big shark  |
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Sep 11 2015, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2015, 08:13 AM) Biggest few days gain I've ever experienced is only 2K+/-. That guy sure is a big shark Way to go pinky #hi5ive |
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Sep 11 2015, 09:51 AM
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Now everyone can make monies as compared to last week of Aug 2015 when everyone is extremely doom n gloom
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Sep 11 2015, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 11 2015, 09:51 AM) Now everyone can make monies as compared to last week of Aug 2015 when everyone is extremely doom n gloom Say thanks to what/who?Weak Ringgit! |
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Sep 11 2015, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 11 2015, 10:02 AM) yeah, over few days porfolio can increase by 7k.... roller coaster ride.. up and down is damn fast.  |
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Sep 11 2015, 01:10 PM
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if can win big, sure also can lose big. so all same same la.best IRR 13.16% on 14.4.15
profit 23+k, now only 10+ @ 6.2% would rather take profit when it is up back to target, sell and lock it. see the ups and down in huge swings ...  .....is like gambling |
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Sep 11 2015, 02:34 PM
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In one week, my port swing from -3% to -0.7%.
Nowadays all asset classes are sooooooooo positively correlated. It is so darn difficult to find a negatively correlated asset class. The world is just too connected. Sigh! Xuzen |
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