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Investment GAMUDA GARDENS & KUNDANG ESTATES @ RAWANG, Together 2 townships worth RM11 billion

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post Jan 4 2021, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ask.Property @ Jan 4 2021, 06:29 PM)
how to next to gamuda garden bro? u got try travel from elmina to gamuda garden before ma? 20km away bro... lol
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umm.. look closer. its the greenish stuff callef lagong..future developments as mentioned in Legend.q
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post Jan 4 2021, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ask.Property @ Jan 4 2021, 01:57 PM)
for now... canal city sure > semenyih at the southern part in term of livability... PA sure > GG at northern side in term of livability.. and lagi teruk GG also leasehold which not compensating anything other than the gamuda brand name
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have you been to GG? Its not just the brand name. Gamuda has made this place look extremely desirable to live in, with the waterfalls, natural lake, a towncentre for the residents to meet etc not forgeting the impeccable workmanship that past gamuda owners have continuously raved.

whats diff from semenyih is largely this. Kundang has nothing I agree but GG will have its own town centrwle with amenities all developed by Gamuda, just 3 minutes to NSE and 20minutes to Damansara, a plethora of offices and commercials. call it a satellite town if you like.

The main reason why I bought this is due to the vision that Gamuda founders have for GG- they want to create a town that has a personality that makes people want to stay and belong. watch it on youtube. You can call it a marketing gimmick but i was really smitten by it mostly by the sincerity and genuineness shown. I only wish that the sales staff adopts the same belief and passion when they sell the property. Not enough sharing between Gamudians, definitely.

i bought a unit for investment eventhough I know renral will not be good for the early years. I do wish I can live here and would if its entirely up to me.
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post Feb 1 2021, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 1 2021, 10:37 AM)
like i said le, how long do you think the amenities able to survive based on the current population around there now? and how long it take to be semi self sustainable? i passed by GG alot and i went to other gamuda townships before... workmanship and design is okay, but whether its convenient to the residents there is another matter... the most successful example should be kota kemuning which also took alot of time to come to where it is now... but since already committed, good luck and enjoy the township, thats all there is to be...
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Valid points. Great for stay. For investor, would need to pay the instalments for 5 years at the min.. as we speak, therre are many developers launching their houses near GG though affordable (400K range) which will bring in population to GG waterfront commercial (about 20 shops). These will give them sustaininance cos these guys got nowhere to go. Well, if its proven to be a chic place, surrounding rawanians will drop by too. But it will bring in a different crowd, than those DPC.

It also depends largely when Gamuda will develop the city centre (shopping mall, medical centre, commercials) which will be next to NSE. IOIPutrajaya mall comes to mind
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All in all, I hear you. Great for stay. For investors, would need to pay instalments for 5 years or more- as rental would be hard to source.

Thats my novice thoughts. Appreciate all the sifu's advice esp on the investing part. Also, you guys think its worthwhile to invest in those affordable freehold developments around GG? Cheaper entry and leverage on GG? But again would need to sustain instalments for the next 5 years.
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post Feb 24 2021, 01:06 PM

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Good analysis.

The waterfront will need some support as GG is the only high end developer here sadly. This development which consists of landed will give you a max of not more than 3000 houses? The rest of the development around GG are really budget and
nonlifestyle evelopers like scientex. Even tan and tan is only developing props at 400 to 500k, similar to scientex. Meaning residents with low to medium purchasing power.

The success of the proposed mall, offices, medical centre etc adjacent to NSE remains to be seen. A similar concept which is IOI putrajaya mall which is also adjacent to the highway in a far away place is doing well. But this probably will be completed in the next 10 years especially with this covid hanging on our heads.

The park will be handed back to the majlis. Desaparkcity similarly will do so to dbkl. we all know what our majlis is capable of. Dbkl is more experienced in landscaping and should do a good job. Other majlis? I don't think so. Without proper maintenance, the beautiful lake will turn into a retention pond in no time.

Anyway these are the risks which may or may not happen. At least its started with good intentions. Love the ideology of Gamuda but doubt the execution by our govt.
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post Mar 31 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(jjtan1984 @ Mar 31 2021, 03:38 PM)
Seems like the property not selling well 🤔
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Dont think its location dependent right? If the owner is financially distressed, all his properties will have to go on fire.

Of course unless your point is that GG feng shui is not good that caused the owner to be financially distressed and thus had to sell his property... which is very remote.
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post Apr 2 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(jjtan1984 @ Apr 2 2021, 02:12 PM)
https://klfoodie.com/gamuda-gardens-has-ove...-weekends-only/

A lot of event there though...
Doing events while trying to sell house...
Wonder how many house sold with this tactic
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You will be surprised.

Lets face it. Kundang means nothibg to most people. Gamuda really transformed the place to be a tropical paradise. Kid you not. Dpc equivalent without the actual shops yet. You need to be at the place to feel, breathe and live the place. Thats why they want you to be there.
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post May 20 2021, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(soulred777 @ May 20 2021, 01:12 PM)
Extra cost is for the branding that you pay for 😅
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GG price is driven by the landscape architect that designed DPC. So there you go. And the latest illaria 20 x 65 built up is about 1600sf only and alrdy costing 660k.

GG needs to bring in more quality tenants to their waterfront to bring future purchasers in.

Eco Majestic just brought in Starbucks Reserve which is going to open very soon. Can read in the other thread.

Malaysians are not like londoners where gardens are top priority but instead yearn for malls and likes.
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post May 21 2021, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(soulred777 @ May 20 2021, 11:58 PM)
This is the reason I skipped GG. I rather buy a place where the place enjoys the spillover effect of its surroundings where it’s enjoyed by the community living in that district/area. Glad I found one ✌️
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Can zi ask what did you get eventually
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post Sep 29 2021, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(soulred777 @ Sep 29 2021, 03:49 PM)
Hi. This is some good info. Could the house be over inflated which made the huge difference with bank valuation?
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I think because GG has no amenities now but a 50 acre park and clubhouse. No commercials.

I think this is the reason why they are pushing hard for Gardens Square (the new commercial square) ala DPC to be built and completed by next year eventhpugh it was launched only last month. Somehow horse riding, award winning park and clubhouse are not the bank priorities smile.gif once Gardens square is up the valuation should be higher...

Hey if can share whats the valuation of Nara house that woukd be great .. so we can gauge the value now.

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post Sep 29 2021, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Iamgnate @ Sep 29 2021, 08:43 PM)
I see. Yup that would be really great. But Where is the Garden square located? Is it where the sales gallery is at the moment? I heard from agent last time that KFC was supposed to come in. But now KFC also pulled out due to some reasons. In terms of grocers, they are getting some brand which i have not heard of. I heard jaya grocer did not want to come in because not enough people yet. Maybe eventually.

Me and wife really love this place, but because of the bank valuation, we are not able to get an Unit here. the current valuation is between 650K-700K. Scarry! Selling price is around 950K. So much of difference.
But suitable for those who can afford to put in cash and take lesser loan.
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Gardens Square is not the waterfront area. GS is located at the front of the township. See pic. Stargrocer comin in to occupy 20000 sf of space. Gs will be a Dpc lookalike. GG has good vibes. Just that the development is in its 6th year so many things are not ready yet. But since this GS will be ready in 2023 thinga will pick up very soon. Esp with The Luge launching in 2023 will make this place a tourist hotspot too

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post Sep 29 2021, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(gagashi @ Sep 29 2021, 10:10 PM)
My friend bought lavena type in gamuda garden,  but the valuation get 700k only. so the down payment total need to pay 120k.  sweat.gif
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Is it a developer or a subsale unit?
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post Sep 29 2021, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(gagashi @ Sep 29 2021, 10:13 PM)
developer unit, but that time already VP.
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Thats a big downpayment. The reason for the price is that tge architects and landscape architects are all branded- similar to those appointed for desa parkcity. Pretty is definitely not cheap
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post Sep 30 2021, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(leyhay @ Sep 30 2021, 03:27 PM)
wahliao tourist hotspot meh. gamuda cove at sepang could be more potential for tourist ?
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Different crowdla. Isnt the Luge a tourist attraction? Tourists can constitute local and international tourists too. Of cos there will be more local tourists here and more internatiknal tourists at the Cove

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Sep 30 2021, 03:31 PM)
KLK vs Gg, which one more potential and better for KL worker?
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GG. Nearer and next to highway
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post Sep 30 2021, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(vicky.max @ Sep 30 2021, 05:00 PM)
2 ~ 3 years ago, GG hung banners all over and claimed that KFC, Tealive, 7-eleven and Mr.DIY will be opened 'soon'. Well, the rest was history.
Not really sure if these shops pulled out or are just delaying their entry.
The only business that might open soon (after Freshii) would be Union Artisan Coffee and that too, seems to be very slow or delayed.

GG is simply overpriced and will be very difficult for them to sell off rest of their upcoming houses - knowing the fact that the whole development is leasehold and the whole area is still 'new'.
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Well there is Covid for these 2 years... hence understandable shops are reluctant to open.

Its sold as a premium product (anor Dpc). Some may pooh pooh but all the traits are there. Same landscape architect. Same waterfront. Same architect for their commercial centre. All these costs money. Give this place a chance. There is really no replacement for dpc except this and peoplw who feels dpc is overpriced will consider this. As in all new places which are perceived far, they will eventually grow into their own.

And the Luge is not cheap to bring in. A theme park will bring life to this quiet and quaint area. The plan is for the tourists to enjoy themselves at the luge and then chill at Gardens Square. Theres a Star grocer occupying 20000 sft in Gardens Square operational next year. That could add much needed life.

Havjng said that nobody mentioned anything about the really beautiful and award winning 50 acre pet friendly park and the clubhouse... guess everyone is into commercials etc. Im more on nature so Im considered bias.

But it is expensive. But 600k up is a norm these days...

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post Oct 1 2021, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(edkhan26 @ Sep 30 2021, 06:06 PM)
Different crowdla. Isnt the Luge a tourist attraction? Tourists can constitute local and international tourists too. Of cos there will be more local tourists here and more internatiknal tourists at the Cove
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Thanks. Im more interested in props and landscaping them to be resorts for airbnb. Such a pretty hpuse and renting it makes a hole in my heart

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post Oct 11 2021, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(amy_sam @ Oct 11 2021, 02:51 PM)
latest progress,

VP for rumah selangorku,

in progress for joya and jovita

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Beautiful houses. How much is launch price?
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post Jul 11 2022, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Moshpit94 @ Jul 11 2022, 02:50 AM)
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Confirmed Guardian, Switch, Jaya Grocer, Coffee Bean Drive Thru, and Urban Republic will open their shop at Garden Square.
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Article didnt mention jaya grocer coffee bean and urban republic thoughm where do u get that
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post Jul 11 2022, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Jul 11 2022, 01:34 PM)
U can see urban republic and coffee beans logo at the back drop. Not sure about jaya grocer though
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Thanks. You are very observant. Funny that their PR team didnt mention the 2 names as rhey are big names. For jaya grocer, heaed from the sales stadd. Originally rhey announcerd star grocer during launch but heard subsequently jaya agreed - they initially didnt as they agreed to open at emerald rawang. All these hearsay ya
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post Jul 21 2022, 08:31 PM

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Guys this is demographics of the area. Please stop all these discrimination.

Poor people cannot enjoy the park? Unless its a private park within a condo or within a strata development like inside Illaria or in a condo yes.

Not a public park like Gamuda park.

Pleaae. We are all Malaysians entitled to fresh air and space.

And for those of you who srill have yoir nose up in the air Majlis Perbandaran Selayang will take over the park when Gamuda finishes the project not unlike Desapark city which is also scheduled to deliver their waterfront park to DBKL in due time.

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