That is where the monitoring of financial results and market trends come in.
Buy and forget?
Got...buy a Nirvana burial plot. Sure profit.
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Sep 13 2015, 10:30 AM
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Hold forever? Things that rule the world now may be obsolete in a few years time.
That is where the monitoring of financial results and market trends come in. Buy and forget? Got...buy a Nirvana burial plot. Sure profit. |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:15 AM) I'm looking for something that has a yield above FD rates, that I can hold forever (that is pretty much guaranteed to be here all our lives.) That is all. I can find so many in so many markets, but not in the KLSE. Well then there's one thing you can do: be patient, wait for our currency to recover, and invest in those markets. Opportunities always come, you just have to be patient. By that time you will probably have even more capital for extra earnings or flexibility. |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 13 2015, 10:24 AM) There are 2 types of remisier. One that have syndicate connection, and one that don't know anything. hahaha don't so negative thinking... not every remisier want you to die ...Just ask you to buy, end of the day they ask you sell earn commission. Second is with syndicate connection. They buy follow syndicate, ask you buy. They sell after. Lol. market is tough nowadays ... it is not everyone can be so accurate... even with wok also hard to goreng QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 13 2015, 10:28 AM) I don't even have remiser lol, brokage only change your account to my side..Read the edge what company get new contract, hire new CEO, etc2 one of the way ? Will do ? pm me your email |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:29 AM) You came across as a NATO. If you've taken any action before, you would not be asking any such questions anymore. You would have been invested in those many stocks in foreign markets that you have identified as great holdings. These actions would have more than answered all your questions as you're the beneficial owner. I was. But he said something else "don't lose money". QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:29 AM) By they way, why don't you share the long list of those many great stocks for the benefit of other readers? Some readers of this forum are not aversed to foreign market investment even at this exchange rate. They may already have cash holding in foreign currency; forex is not a concern. ROI or yield is. Tell you what, we will go one for one. It's only fair that way. |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:01 AM) You got all that from the posts? Actually we have that data and it is in and taken into account. But yes I am a KLSE n00b. Everything I look at seems either too risky or too overpriced. Alternatively I would be happy to pay someone a percentage to get me a better return, but only as a last resort, since that means I don't get to learn anything. Yes, looking at your confused postings, I came to that conclusion. Pretty accurate ? If not, what is your situation on your retirement planning now ?I read in one of Buffett's letters "don't buy anything you are not prepared to hold forever" so I'm looking for something that has a yield above FD rates, that I can hold forever (that is pretty much guaranteed to be here all our lives.) There are many like that in the foreign markets, but with the rate being what it is, it's gotten to the point where we have to look locally for the same thing. That's the only criteria really, something that has a yield above FD rates, that I can hold forever. So, any ideas? I have given up trying to talk sense to you. You hold very tight to your point of view in approaching your way of investment in stock market. No investment can satisfy your "ideology" Basically, you want "100% guaranteed and a company which will last forever" (ie no risk like FD), and expect "cheap undervalue and significantly higher return than FD". How old are you now to expect that ? |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:39 AM) I have given up trying to talk sense to you. You hold very tight to your point of view in approaching your way of investment in stock market. No investment can satisfy your "ideology" Actually quite a few do.. just that I can't seem to find any in the KLSE. And if you're wondering why I'm not in them now, it's because the cross rate is kind of screwed right now. QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:39 AM) Basically, you want "100% guaranteed and a company which will last forever" (ie no risk like FD), and expect "cheap undervalue and significantly higher return than FD". How old are you now to expect that ? Is that unreasonable? I can find that in so many markets, just not in the KLSE. And if you wonder why I'm not in them now, it's because of the cross rate. This post has been edited by wodenus: Sep 13 2015, 10:51 AM |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:48 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 10:49 AM
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"I know of this and what u guys been doing is wrong. Prove me wrong...
... ...no lar u guys are still wrong" "I know of this yet I won't act because of that that that and that" LOL Just like if not worse than the super-loud-tin-kosong and the dreaming old man Guys, give up ba This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 13 2015, 10:51 AM |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:52 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2015, 10:49 AM) "I know of this and what u guys been doing is wrong. Prove me wrong... ... ...no lar u guys are still wrong" Sorry where did I say anyone was wrong? QUOTE "I know of this yet I won't act because of that that that and that" Yes obviously.. it's not so simple as that. |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:54 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 10:55 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:48 AM) Ok as I mentioned in an earlier post.. Con Ed is one. Southern Co is another one. Royal Mail is yet another. I could just go on and on. So you see, what I am asking for is not unreasonable, but for some reason it does not exist on KLSE. |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:56 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 10:57 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:57 AM) Inaction at least is an "known' action No, what I said was specifically, I can't find a stock I can hold forever, that has a higher yield than FD.What he did was just saying "Foreign markets so many good things. KLSE is no good. Prove me wrong" This post has been edited by wodenus: Sep 13 2015, 11:00 AM |
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Sep 13 2015, 10:58 AM
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Sep 13 2015, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:58 AM) Then your "foreign markets so good" is just your imagination ? All the sifu here are wasting their time on your imagination ? QUOTE Ok as I mentioned in an earlier post.. Con Ed is one. Southern Co is another one. Royal Mail is yet another. I could just go on and on. So you see, what I am asking for is not unreasonable, but for some reason it does not exist on KLSE. And now I have repeated this 3 times already |
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Sep 13 2015, 11:03 AM
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