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SUSPink Spider
post Sep 13 2015, 10:30 AM

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Hold forever? Things that rule the world now may be obsolete in a few years time.

That is where the monitoring of financial results and market trends come in.

Buy and forget?

Got...buy a Nirvana burial plot. Sure profit. smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:15 AM)
I'm looking for something that has a yield above FD rates, that I can hold forever (that is pretty much guaranteed to be here all our lives.) That is all. I can find so many in so many markets, but not in the KLSE.
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Well then there's one thing you can do: be patient, wait for our currency to recover, and invest in those markets. Opportunities always come, you just have to be patient. By that time you will probably have even more capital for extra earnings or flexibility.
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 13 2015, 10:24 AM)
There are 2 types of remisier. One that have syndicate connection, and one that don't know anything.

Just ask you to buy, end of the day they ask you sell earn commission.
Second is with syndicate connection. They buy follow syndicate, ask you buy. They sell after. Lol.
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hahaha don't so negative thinking... not every remisier want you to die ...

market is tough nowadays ... it is not everyone can be so accurate... even with wok also hard to goreng

QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 13 2015, 10:28 AM)
I don't even have remiser lol, brokage only

Read the edge what company get new contract, hire new CEO, etc2 one of the way ? Will do ?
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:29 AM)
You came across as a NATO. If you've taken any action before, you would not be asking any such questions anymore. You would have been invested in those many stocks in foreign markets that you have identified as great holdings. These actions would have more than answered all your questions as you're the beneficial owner.


I was. But he said something else "don't lose money".

QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:29 AM)
By they way, why don't you share the long list of those many great stocks for the benefit of other readers? Some readers of this forum are not aversed to foreign market investment even at this exchange rate. They may already have cash holding in foreign currency; forex is not a concern. ROI or yield is.


Tell you what, we will go one for one. It's only fair that way.

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post Sep 13 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:01 AM)
You got all that from the posts? Actually we have that data and it is in and taken into account. But yes I am a KLSE n00b. Everything I look at seems either too risky or too overpriced. Alternatively I would be happy to pay someone a percentage to get me a better return, but only as a last resort, since that means I don't get to learn anything.

I read in one of Buffett's letters "don't buy anything you are not prepared to hold forever" so I'm looking for something that has a yield above FD rates, that I can hold forever (that is pretty much guaranteed to be here all our lives.)

There are many like that in the foreign markets, but with the rate being what it is, it's gotten to the point where we have to look locally for the same thing. That's the only criteria really, something that has a yield above FD rates, that I can hold forever. So, any ideas?
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Yes, looking at your confused postings, I came to that conclusion. Pretty accurate ? If not, what is your situation on your retirement planning now ?

I have given up trying to talk sense to you. You hold very tight to your point of view in approaching your way of investment in stock market. No investment can satisfy your "ideology"

Basically, you want "100% guaranteed and a company which will last forever" (ie no risk like FD), and expect "cheap undervalue and significantly higher return than FD". How old are you now to expect that ?
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:39 AM)
I have given up trying to talk sense to you. You hold very tight to your point of view in approaching your way of investment in stock market. No investment can satisfy your "ideology"


Actually quite a few do.. just that I can't seem to find any in the KLSE. And if you're wondering why I'm not in them now, it's because the cross rate is kind of screwed right now.

QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:39 AM)
Basically, you want "100% guaranteed and a company which will last forever" (ie no risk like FD), and expect "cheap undervalue and significantly higher return than FD". How old are you now to expect that ?


Is that unreasonable? I can find that in so many markets, just not in the KLSE. And if you wonder why I'm not in them now, it's because of the cross rate.


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post Sep 13 2015, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:45 AM)
Is that unreasonable? I can find that in so many markets, just not in the KLSE. And if you wonder why I'm not in them now, it's because of the cross rate.
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Tell everyone here then. For the benefit of everyone.

I give you benefit of the doubt
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:49 AM

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"I know of this and what u guys been doing is wrong. Prove me wrong...
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...no lar u guys are still wrong"

"I know of this yet I won't act because of that that that and that"

LOL laugh.gif

Just like if not worse than the super-loud-tin-kosong and the dreaming old man tongue.gif

Guys, give up ba biggrin.gif

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post Sep 13 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2015, 10:49 AM)
LOL laugh.gif

Just like if not worse than the super-loud-tin-kosong and the dreaming old man tongue.gif

Guys, give up ba biggrin.gif
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At least we know dreamer believes in ETFs

We still don't know what investment wodenus believes in



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post Sep 13 2015, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2015, 10:49 AM)
"I know of this and what u guys been doing is wrong. Prove me wrong...
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...no lar u guys are still wrong"


Sorry where did I say anyone was wrong?

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"I know of this yet I won't act because of that that that and that"


Yes obviously.. it's not so simple as that.


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post Sep 13 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:52 AM)
At least we know dreamer believes in ETFs

We still don't know what investment wodenus believes in
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Zen Buddhism. Do nothing innocent.gif
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:53 AM)
Sorry where did I say anyone was wrong?
Yes obviously.. it's not so simple as that.
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Why avoid giving your list of foreign markets which you say is good ?
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:48 AM)
Tell everyone here then. For the benefit of everyone.

I give you benefit of the doubt
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Ok as I mentioned in an earlier post.. Con Ed is one. Southern Co is another one. Royal Mail is yet another. I could just go on and on. So you see, what I am asking for is not unreasonable, but for some reason it does not exist on KLSE.

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post Sep 13 2015, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:55 AM)
Why avoid giving your list of foreign markets which you say is good ?
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Didn't want to repeat myself since I mentioned it earlier, but see above.

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post Sep 13 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2015, 10:54 AM)
Zen Buddhism. Do nothing innocent.gif
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Inaction at least is an "known' action

What he did was just saying "Foreign markets so many good things. KLSE is no good. Prove me wrong" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2015, 10:54 AM)
Zen Buddhism. Do nothing innocent.gif
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ah moi so active recently ... blush.gif
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:57 AM)
Inaction at least is an "known' action

What he did was just saying "Foreign markets so many good things. KLSE is no good. Prove me wrong"  tongue.gif
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No, what I said was specifically, I can't find a stock I can hold forever, that has a higher yield than FD.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:56 AM)
Didn't want to repeat myself since I mentioned it earlier, but see above.
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Then your "foreign markets so good" is just your imagination ? All the sifu here are wasting their time on your imagination ?
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:58 AM)
Then your "foreign markets so good" is just your imagination ? All the sifu here are wasting their time on your imagination ?
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Ok as I mentioned in an earlier post.. Con Ed is one. Southern Co is another one. Royal Mail is yet another. I could just go on and on. So you see, what I am asking for is not unreasonable, but for some reason it does not exist on KLSE.


And now I have repeated this 3 times already smile.gif

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post Sep 13 2015, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 11:00 AM)
And now I have repeated this 3 times already smile.gif
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Oh...I miss the post tongue.gif

So you are WB supporter. Who believe in cold hard assets. Nothing in "intangibles" like internet giants ?

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