No special dividend like last 2 years ?

Any chartist comment ? Will it go to 15xx or even 14xx ?

Another historic moment of KLCI if that happens

Thanks for the link. Will be very cautious

1k then buy penny stock loh.....Can make >200%.

You seems serious in your question today

Everybody has his own risk appetite. Those here are high risk taker. FD of 4% pa they "look no up". Don't even mention the word FD here it is taboo. They are expecting maybe 20% in 1-2 months range (120% annualized), or 10% in 1 week (500% annualized). If you get in frontken at 0.17 a few month ago, and sell at 0.34 2 months later, you made 100% in 2 months (600% annualized). That is the level of profit they expect. But after sell at 0.34, frontken dropped back to 0.26 and if he feels it is cheap and re-enter, then it dropped further to 0.16. He loss 0.10. So high risk high return/loss

If you still think FD is comparable against stock trading, then I think you should not waste your time here. Your risk appetite is not suited for stock trading. You want guaranteed profit ? Can go with 4%pa return. But Don't expect those 20% return in 1-2 months (120% annualized) will happen without taking any risk

Yes. The reason is this is a goreng stock. People goreng to make money. Of course there is fundamental, but I don't think the wide swing can justify that. Short word - speculation

Maybe driving is not a good analogy. You should use teleport as a reference.

FD is taking a public bus from JB to Kangar. Takes a whole day

Stock trading is taking a teleport from KL to London. Takes 2 second

Risk of taking bus - low, but you will get there eventually. Could be a waste of time

Risk of taking teleport - high, but you zip thru the world in no time. And enjoy life

Ask yourself whether you are willing to take the risk of disappearing from this world first before you talk about knowledge


You are confused.

You should set aside an amount which you can lose without affecting your daily life. That is your gambling money. This amount of money even if you lose all, it should not affect your financials

Of course, there are traders who sailang. They don't plan too much. They see opportunity and use 100% of what they got, even borrow 200% money (1:3 margin) to trade. If they make it, they win big. If they lose, they are in debt. That is the risk they take like a genting gambler

The above are 2 extreme of traders. It comes back to your risk appetite which one you want to be

From what I understand of you, I don't think you even want to be a trader at all. You don't have the risk appetite. Gamblers need big balls. They don't ask confused questions like you.

You should be a long term investor in stock market. Study a stock for its fundamental, invest for dividend yield and also slow steady increase in share price. Don't bother about short term price fluctuation. Just hold long term

My 10 second google search show me there are 8 of those which fit your criteria

Bro, do your own research lah.

If you are so skeptical and scared, want 100% sure thing, I can tell you stock market will disappoint you one....don't waste your time. Stick to your FD. You are not alone. There are many people who feel FD is the best. Nothing wrong

Very free mah....

It's either that, or its someone who is

1. Reach an age who is thinking of financial freedom and retirement in the future
2. His calculator shows his FD cannot give him financial freedom and carefree retirement
3. Read this forum and found out you guys making good money
4. Become jealous and do some "30years" flawed calculation of some stock. Missed out some parameters like dividend, share split, bonus issue or rights issue and conclude even PBB's return is same as FD
5. See current volatility and crisis and conclude at anytime, stock market experience the same turmoil and risky
6. Hence don't see a way out and become extremely confused about his future

The usual reaction from a skeptical, negative, risk averse person. A person a financial planner experience nightmare to talk to. A ultimate hurdle for a financial planner. If he can convince him, he can convince anybody

He needs help. A lot of help.

Yes, looking at your confused postings, I came to that conclusion. Pretty accurate ? If not, what is your situation on your retirement planning now ?

I have given up trying to talk sense to you. You hold very tight to your point of view in approaching your way of investment in stock market. No investment can satisfy your "ideology"

Basically, you want "100% guaranteed and a company which will last forever" (ie no risk like FD), and expect "cheap undervalue and significantly higher return than FD". How old are you now to expect that ?

Tell everyone here then. For the benefit of everyone.

I give you benefit of the doubt

At least we know dreamer believes in ETFs

We still don't know what investment wodenus believes in

Why avoid giving your list of foreign markets which you say is good ?

Inaction at least is an "known' action

What he did was just saying "Foreign markets so many good things. KLSE is no good. Prove me wrong"

Then your "foreign markets so good" is just your imagination ? All the sifu here are wasting their time on your imagination ?

Oh...I miss the post

So you are WB supporter. Who believe in cold hard assets. Nothing in "intangibles" like internet giants ?

Let's get back to your Southern Co and Con Ed. Their dividend yield is about 4+%. I assume you are a non-resident alien. That would be taxed at 30%. Ignoring the cost of dividend charged by your brokerage. You are getting <3% for your investment, which is less than FD rates 4%. Why would you consider it "good" stock?

You missed this post ?

So you want tips from the sifu here, but don't want to share your tips about overseas stock ? I repost my question below. If you are kind enough to teach me your good foreign stock market and pass some kangtao to me....greatly appreciated....