i prefer Terminator Salvation too.

bale as john connor

terminator salvation is ok...just they focus too much of worthington instead of john connor n kyle reese....

I preferred T3 because it still feels like a Terminator movie. I don't think there should be any Terminator film set 100% in the post apocalyptic future. In the original movie the future scenes were just used as one of the plot point, never meant to be the focus of the whole movie. From the moment I heard Salvation gonna be 100% post apocalyptic I already had doubts about it.

But that's just me tho and yeah I agree Bale was great as JC.

And speaking of Bale, toady Bale himself just admitted that Salvation did not work
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/terminator...tion-didnt-work

but i think his reasons are probably different.

Wasn't it where he supposedly shouted at a member of the filming crew (explilaives and all)

Yeah, I was rooting more for Connor than of worthington's "terminator".

That failed the movie for purist fans of terminator. Despite good performance by him (sam worthington').Unfortunately fans of this franchise doesn't dig worthington's "terminator", I don't like that "terminator", too "human". Arnie terminator is half way, struggling to understand human emotions etc.

That was the whole reason why terminator is "reboot" in a way where Arnie comes back, terminator can work because "I'll be back"

Story wise "salvation > terminator 3" anytime.

And "John Connor "in T3

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Dec 9 2014, 05:36 PM

After clinching the statue, Bale is more selective on the type of project he wants to work on. Furthermore, he has some not very nice thing to say about Salvation on a whole. IMO Salvation has no identity as to whether to compete with TF or just beating a dead horse. I couldn't remember exactly what the movie details anymore. Guess it was that generic to me. No offense to those who enjoys Salvation.
Pretty indifferent of the new trailer as it can skew both ways. Pros for finding ways to reset the story and cons for rather uninspiring casting choices and aesthetically not too pleasing with their choice of method to convey the lo-fi ambiance of 80/90's. Kinda like a made for TV movie quality. Who knows, maybe the 2nd trailer could inspire more confidence???

Jonathan Nolan screenplay wor

33% Rotten Tomato wor
Heh if u dug salvation,good for you.Whatever rocks your boat.

This post has been edited by 6so: Dec 9 2014, 09:44 PM

Well, some of us aren't guided by rotten tomato, sure it has a peaksure on general films. I do find the dystopian future likable. I not a a big fan of sams work. (Look where is he, just saying)

In the article, it stated bale mentioned his work didn't (quite) work but not elaborated. It's far from being critical.

T2>salvation/T1>T3

Looking at gross takings too it's about there despite what tomato rotten had to say

Likewise I'm not guided solely by Jonathan Nolan's work.
You can justified all you want, the studio just don't see a continuation from Salvation for reasons unknown to me and you.if they perceived post Salvation makes sense,they would have done so with all their power to put Bale in the new movie.
Making a public dissing of McG's capability is far from subtle on my book and the article posted earlier was a sugar coated variation.Look for the Wall Street Journal article.
To be honest I couldn't care less bout Salvation or T3.They just didn't match the legacy of the first 2 films.Just my own personal opinion.
Is it really that difficult to allow difference in opinions.

This post has been edited by 6so: Dec 10 2014, 11:52 AM

fanmade trailer..recut from the original trailer plus few add on.

The New teaser is mind blowing

I'm not guided by reputation (sure it helps). Even for his famous sibling bro. Critics, crititism all may differ, I'm also not bothered by general (critics) acceptance of a movie or their slaying of ones work

There is a saying, you are only as good as your last work. As long it drives a person to better their previous work, it shd be worth to a consideration to watch.

But of course I'm have my preferences, sci fi, comedies etc. any horror movie(s) not much. not that i don't like horror, well macabre, gruesome, grisly, grim, gory, morbid, lurid, grotesque well, there is a limit, & horror movies has been been there, seen before.

Salvation offers a "difference" from the earlier terminator movie(s). Which to me T3 didn't. Apart from Arnie, and gritty Claire Danes, the rest of the cast was nick starl the supposely "anti climax" in the end was no where near explosive as I hoped it would be.

Which comes the the question of the coming instalment in "terminator genisys:, what will this next terminator movie offer from what we have seen before previously? I would like to hope the trailer may not have shown everything (hopefully the best bits are unravelled when one goes to the movies)

In t2 The terminator was ground breaking, everyone saw it being a superior terminator to t100. We will wonder how will the future (Korean/Asian) terminator morph..? Blend into a car, metal, flooring? Done before, able to be turn itself into a weapon? done before...will wait n see.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Dec 11 2014, 11:53 AM

Huh...umm why bring up JN involvement in the first place.He's only one of the many script doctors hired and he was not the one who wrote the mainframe but just to patch dialogues/scenes while filming.

To innovate simply not just about doing something new everytime. A simple analogy,when I buy a Radiohead album you won't know what it's gonna be as each new release is different from the previous.Coldplay on the other hand,it's the exact same formula stylistically since their first album.It all boils down to how the music is made.

While Salvation takes place in the future timeline, handling of characters and story are too convoluted to begin with. At one point it's a story of JC then a forceful human wannabe terminator storyline takes precedence over everything which a rehash of T2.Then your action sequences just try to do what TF is doing.I don't even remember one iconic action scene from Salvation.For T3 at the bare minimum still remembers Arnold shootout in the cemetery and a female t-1000 hunting everyone.Salvation just a bunch of generic evil terminators doing forgetful things.So Salvation is nowhere near the Coldplay status as it couldn't even do Radiohead to begin with.And not many people can be Radiohead.

Well, everyone is a fan of a series/franchise movie or a particular band because of what it embodies. At the very least the main structure of the movie, without that it falls apart. Nobody wants an unexpected 'wizard-of-oz' stewed into a sci fi movie just because it's maybe innovative, unexpected or compoundly different from the previous instalment.

I don't know every time T3 (rise of the machines) movie appears on the telly, or reshown on TV, it feels like a very made-for-tv, no grandeur, no mystical magic unlike even T1 0r T2 (when its played on the small box). Well, as you mentioned our opinions differ. perhaps some other movies we may find a middle ground.

I love Salvation more than T3. like others have said T3 felt cheap, and not grandeur. For me Genesys should've continued where Salvation came off, retaining their actors even if they wanted to made DoFP style Terminator movie

I can't remember any memorable scene from T3, but can remember every memorable scene from T1,T2, and Salvation.

Cool addition of Lee Byung Hun as T1000 although I'd prefer Robert Patrick cameo

So whassap with the almighty saying of "you only as good as your last job."
There also this saying "The only good thing about bad taste is that you don't know you have it." I watched my fair share of bad movies until I found Rotten Tomato.

I tremendously dug vanity innovation like what Cameron did with T2 and Aliens. Blompkamp oso not bad wif D9. Uhmmm there oso that fella that made a movie about a dream in a dream in a dream.2001 Odyssey a bit boring and still dunno what the movie about oso ok,I think. Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress is the exact same story like Star Wars,Alien with a boy cycling over the moon,Keanu Reeves learning kungfu,Gremlins is so adorable,etc...so how's that for wizard of oz stews into conventional genre or my interpretation of "Radiohead"

I already said I couldn't care less about T3 and Salvation as they are both equally bad movies to begin with. For better or worse, I remember Arnold mowing down people in the cemetery and a female terminator.Salvation just a whitewash in my memory.

At least you love your Terminator Salvation and no need to convince me otherwise.And I lllloooovvvveeee T1.

T2 is better than T1
not even James Cameron can save that piece of crap T1...

oh wait. he fixed that in T2. apologize

This post has been edited by fix24311: Dec 12 2014, 11:45 AM

T2 review : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04y3bcd4ZAg

Trailer review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIsF1Bm_4to

love the guy

This post has been edited by tensaiboyai: Dec 12 2014, 11:48 AM

that cracked me up. especially the banging part.

there are those who ride on their reputation and there are those who will want to do better than their last movie.. few genuine one left.

of course some we will forgive if they stumble in 1 or 2 movie but their desire to want to make good movies and try not to milk/ride on their reputation.