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PC Audio Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V6,, Comparison and Advice

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post Aug 22 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(bravonismo @ Aug 22 2020, 11:34 AM)
Maybe the way I test is not ideal. The volume I set is very low because I dont want to attract ppl attention (I am shy), because of this i have to bend down and stick my ear near speaker, and i crank the bass dial of R2000DB and S1000DB to +6 (max) to hear them properly, even then it is still a bit weak (which is why i said the dial not much impact/adjustibility), plus got some shop background noise, for R1700BT bass is +2 already quite loud. I know all the video comparison is at +0, i watched R1700BT vs R2000DB and can hear clearly bass of R2000DB is stronger, but i know with the dial of R1700BT it can get even stronger than +6 of R2000DB. I also watched R2000DB vs S1000DB, cant hear any bass difference other than overall the way they sound is a bit different. I dont have the best audiophile ear. I have not watched R1850DB, will watch it. I will test 2nd round again.

Anyone heard of Swan HiVi D1080MKII or D1080-IV? How are them sound compared to Edifier? They are quite comparable in price, and seems to share the same design language, having wooden style enclosure and 3 dials at the side.
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When you set the volume very low, if one of it were to be set louder by 1 or 2 decibels, you'll feel that one have better sound. When the sound level very low also hard to hear difference as small full range driver still can produce good bass. Try demo with normal listening level then you will be able to hear the bass difference between speakers. R1700BT bass is actually good, but it's bass is just limited because of small driver vs S1000DB larger driver.
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QUOTE(bravonismo @ Aug 22 2020, 12:34 PM)
Maybe the way I test is not ideal. The volume I set is very low because I dont want to attract ppl attention (I am shy), because of this i have to bend down and stick my ear near speaker, and i crank the bass dial of R2000DB and S1000DB to +6 (max) to hear them properly, even then it is still a bit weak (which is why i said the dial not much impact/adjustibility), plus got some shop background noise, for R1700BT bass is +2 already quite loud. I know all the video comparison is at +0, i watched R1700BT vs R2000DB and can hear clearly bass of R2000DB is stronger, but i know with the dial of R1700BT it can get even stronger than +6 of R2000DB. I also watched R2000DB vs S1000DB, cant hear any bass difference other than overall the way they sound is a bit different. I dont have the best audiophile ear. I have not watched R1850DB, will watch it. I will test 2nd round again.

Anyone heard of Swan HiVi D1080MKII or D1080-IV? How are them sound compared to Edifier? They are quite comparable in price, and seems to share the same design language, having wooden style enclosure and 3 dials at the side.
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chances are you're missing out the sub bass in the bigger speakers due to the large open area so it kinda fly off while the smaller r1700bt is mostly audible midbass that can be picked up closeby. Maybe step back a bit to hear what's missing. Bass do need space to travel.
No need to be afraid to ask the seller to off everything and test only your setup. Noisy yeah but hey, you are the customer and you have the privilege to choose your product. But if you really want sterile environment maybe ask Edifier to book an appointment to test in their showroom.

I've read many good things about HiVi and their speakers but only manage to hear the M50W last time. They were like the computer speaker killer since everyone claimed they're "very audiophile" compared to pc speakers
I was a basshead in the past so I prefer Edifier colorful sound over HiVi neutral clarity. But I can always remember how HiVi had sweet smooth sounding trebles despite forgetting how they sound overall. It was like what 5-6 years ago since I heard them haha. unsure.gif
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post Aug 22 2020, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Aug 22 2020, 03:32 PM)
chances are you're missing out the sub bass in the bigger speakers due to the large open area so it kinda fly off while the smaller r1700bt is mostly audible midbass that can be picked up closeby. Maybe step back a bit to hear what's missing. Bass do need space to travel.
No need to be afraid to ask the seller to off everything and test only your setup. Noisy yeah but hey, you are the customer and you have the privilege to choose your product. But if you really want sterile environment maybe ask Edifier to book an appointment to test in their showroom.

I've read many good things about HiVi and their speakers but only manage to hear the M50W last time. They were like the computer speaker killer since everyone claimed they're "very audiophile" compared to pc speakers
I was a basshead in the past so I prefer Edifier colorful sound over HiVi neutral clarity. But I can always remember how HiVi had sweet smooth sounding trebles despite forgetting how they sound overall. It was like what 5-6 years ago since I heard them haha. unsure.gif
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What is your current setup? Saw somewhere you mentioned using chinese amp + passive speaker? What are the models and how do you like them?
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post Aug 22 2020, 05:11 PM

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Im sold on Edifier S1000 MKII. WHat;s the best price anyone has seen?


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post Aug 22 2020, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(bravonismo @ Aug 22 2020, 06:10 PM)
What is your current setup? Saw somewhere you mentioned using chinese amp + passive speaker? What are the models and how do you like them?
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I was using this

but now using this

Sony SS-D201 bookshelf speakers from my dad + JVC CSGD1210 car subwoofer w prefab box was my setup.
Now I downgrade my sub to Altec Lansing ATP3 subwoofer cuz I started driving to work again haha. Needed the sub back in my car.

But even with ATP3 playing low 70Hz still more than enough for my small room. Still joyful to listen to since most of the hardwork are from my main Sony speakers. The sub is only to push the sub lows
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post Aug 22 2020, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(bravonismo @ Aug 22 2020, 11:34 AM)
Maybe the way I test is not ideal. The volume I set is very low because I dont want to attract ppl attention (I am shy), because of this i have to bend down and stick my ear near speaker, and i crank the bass dial of R2000DB and S1000DB to +6 (max) to hear them properly, even then it is still a bit weak (which is why i said the dial not much impact/adjustibility), plus got some shop background noise, for R1700BT bass is +2 already quite loud. I know all the video comparison is at +0, i watched R1700BT vs R2000DB and can hear clearly bass of R2000DB is stronger, but i know with the dial of R1700BT it can get even stronger than +6 of R2000DB. I also watched R2000DB vs S1000DB, cant hear any bass difference other than overall the way they sound is a bit different. I dont have the best audiophile ear. I have not watched R1850DB, will watch it. I will test 2nd round again.

Anyone heard of Swan HiVi D1080MKII or D1080-IV? How are them sound compared to Edifier? They are quite comparable in price, and seems to share the same design language, having wooden style enclosure and 3 dials at the side.
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I have the Swans D1080-IV currently. Used to own Edifier R1900 T-III. I cant comment on current Edifier range, but I believe for best bang-for-buck, can't go wrong with Edifier.

The Swans D1080-IV sounds great to me, but I don't think can easily get Swans nowadays. Otherwise I also want to upgrade to the Swans MK200 MKIII. Now using the D1080 for movies in my bedroom, although it sounds great for music as well. Vocals are heavenly, and the highs are smooth. Bass of course cant compete with dedicated subwoofer, but good enough for jazz and most music, except EDM. But then again you dont buy bookshelf speakers for EDM.
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post Aug 23 2020, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Aug 22 2020, 08:57 PM)
I have the Swans D1080-IV currently. Used to own Edifier R1900 T-III. I cant comment on current Edifier range, but I believe for best bang-for-buck, can't go wrong with Edifier.

The Swans D1080-IV sounds great to me, but I don't think can easily get Swans nowadays. Otherwise I also want to upgrade to the Swans MK200 MKIII. Now using the D1080 for movies in my bedroom, although it sounds great for music as well. Vocals are heavenly, and the highs are smooth. Bass of course cant compete with dedicated subwoofer, but good enough for jazz and most music, except EDM. But then again you dont buy bookshelf speakers for EDM.
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Are there any local distributors/sellers for Swans here these days? IIRC Heavy Arm used to carry them. Now not sure.
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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ Aug 23 2020, 12:03 AM)
Are there any local distributors/sellers for Swans here these days? IIRC Heavy Arm used to carry them. Now not sure.
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I bought from them last time. But that was a few years back. I don't think they still carry cos demand quite low.
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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ Aug 23 2020, 12:03 AM)
Are there any local distributors/sellers for Swans here these days? IIRC Heavy Arm used to carry them. Now not sure.
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I think you can forget about hivi swan in Malaysia. No seller now.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 23 2020, 08:35 AM)
I think you can forget about hivi swan in Malaysia. No seller now.
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TechX are bringing some HiVi Swans in. Check em out: https://www.techx.com.my/collections/best-h...s-malaysia-2020
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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ Aug 25 2020, 12:53 AM)
TechX are bringing some HiVi Swans in. Check em out: https://www.techx.com.my/collections/best-h...s-malaysia-2020
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WOW lot's of big names there! Haven't came across this site just by googling. I never bother to read reviews/comparisons of these speakers because I thought it is hard to come by in Malaysia and even it does it will be expensive, but looks like I can now!
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QUOTE(bravonismo @ Aug 25 2020, 10:52 AM)
WOW lot's of big names there! Haven't came across this site just by googling. I never bother to read reviews/comparisons of these speakers because I thought it is hard to come by in Malaysia and even it does it will be expensive, but looks like I can now!
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Enjoy! The TechX guy is very friendly and professional and his service is great. I bought my speakers from him and it was a pleasant experience.
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Does anyone have the chance to audition the popular Audioengine A5 vs Swans speakers? I wonder if the difference is significant. I have heard the Swans speakers and find that it generally sounds much better than most PC/multimedia speakers, but not sure how it holds up to a proper bookshelf like the A5.
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Swans isn't a 'proper' bookshelf?
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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ Aug 25 2020, 08:09 PM)
Swans isn't a 'proper' bookshelf?
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Replace 'proper' with 'expensive'. Hahaha

I mean proper as in those brands normally associated with hifi speakers (audioengine, kef, polk, etc), rather than multimedia speakers.
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Aug 25 2020, 08:48 PM)
Replace 'proper' with 'expensive'. Hahaha

I mean proper as in those brands normally associated with hifi speakers (audioengine, kef, polk, etc), rather than multimedia speakers.
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Lol, ok. But, AFAIK, Swans are well-regarded and considered to be 'proper hifi' speakers in the UK.
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post Aug 27 2020, 01:34 PM

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Hey guys... Can you recommend me a speaker for pc setup? Around 200-400+. I'm looking at R1280DB, M3600D, XM6BT and some logitech and can't decide which one. I will be using it for movies, songs, and gaming. Please help unsure.gif

R1700BT seems like too big for the simple setup that i want.

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post Aug 27 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(ali00 @ Aug 27 2020, 01:34 PM)
Hey guys... Can you recommend me a speaker for pc setup? Around 200-400+. I'm looking at R1280DB, M3600D, XM6BT and some logitech and can't decide which one. I will be using it for movies, songs, and gaming. Please help  unsure.gif

R1700BT seems like too big for the simple setup that i want.
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lets do this..

do you need bluetooth? If yes - M3600D not qualify
do you need subwoofer? if yes - R1280DB not qualify

if you more on movies and gaming - M3600D would be a better choise with a bigger sub giving more impact to movies and gaming. If you more to music and prefer clarify over bass then R1280DB could be an option.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Aug 27 2020, 01:49 PM)
lets do this..

do you need bluetooth? If yes - M3600D not qualify
do you need subwoofer? if yes - R1280DB not qualify

if you more on movies and gaming - M3600D would be a better choise with a bigger sub giving more impact to movies and gaming. If you more to music and prefer clarify over bass then R1280DB could be an option.
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That's actually helpful lol. Btw do you have any other recommendations for my usage? Other than those above. I can topup abit more if worth it.
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QUOTE(ali00 @ Aug 27 2020, 05:39 PM)
That's actually helpful lol. Btw do you have any other recommendations for my usage? Other than those above. I can topup abit more if worth it.
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There's the Edifier XM6BT if you find the M3600D too big. Cheaper iirc for a smaller speaker

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